Conversation started Apr 2, 2012 at 1:16.
murgatroid99
murgatroid99
Apr 2, 2012 01:16
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Q: Why was (is?) Irelia so popular top?

Jason TsaiShe was picked/banned in like every game at IEM Hannover but I don't really understand why. Is it because her passive is strong in teamfights? She doesn't seem particularly tanky so I don't really get why she's considered a good initiator late game and her laning has been noted as weak (probably ...

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I just saw this on a tumblr
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@murgatroid99 I'm not sure that question is so terrible.
I don't see how it's all that different from this one:
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Q: Why don't the pros kill the scouting probe as it passes through their mineral line?

Peter RecoreWhile watching pros play (MLG, GSL,etc) I notice that sometimes a player will move a probe/drone/scv right through the other player's mineral line. I have yet to see a pro try to kill this drone as it passes through. When someone does this to me, I often have my drones all attack the scout, kil...

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It amounts to "I see professional/ranked players using X unit or Strategy. I don't understand why that unit is so useful. What am I missing that they all seem to understand?"
Which, really, is actually a pretty good question.
Now sometimes, the reason is because the asker is an idiot...
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Q: Why don't Terrans ever seem to use medics?

Brendan LongI've been watching a bunch of Starcraft II replays recently, and I just realized that I've never seen a single medic in any of the games. The most recent one I watched had medivacs, which is obviously more useful than medics (since they can lift units too), but most of the games I've seen had a b...

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But the fundamental question is sound: Successful players do X. I don't understand why X is useful. What is so good about X?
murgatroid99
murgatroid99
@LessPop_MoreFizz I guess. It looked to me like "Why does everyone like X?", which seemed like bad subjective
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@murgatroid99 except that he isn't asking about everyone, he's explicitly asking about pros.
But even if he were asking about everyone, where there's smoke, there's fire, and it's still a legitimate question, so long as it's not a masked rant.
And in this case, it doesn't seem to be. it seems to be someone who legitimately just does not understand the strengths of this particular champion.
murgatroid99
murgatroid99
@LessPop_MoreFizz I guess it's just that it looks like it's only a small step away from "Why to you like X?"
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Note that, while "Why are Warlock/Shaman/Druid teams so popular and common among top ranked arena players?" is a vastly superior question to the utterly useless "Why are Warlocks the least played class in WoW? LOX SUX, BLIZZ HATES US WHY CAN'T WE HAVE GREEN FIRE!!!11?!?!?!?!?!?"
@murgatroid99 Well sure, but that's a problem of bad answers, which is solved by downvoting.
murgatroid99
murgatroid99
Apr 2, 2012 01:27
@LessPopMoreFizz Also, the fact that it already has four answers that look different makes me suspicious
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Just because a question is capable of getting bad answers doesn't mean it's a bad question. It's when a question is incapable of getting good answers that we have a problem.
murgatroid99
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@LessPop_MoreFizz I thought asking for the opinions of other people is fundamentally not allowed here
Isn't that the entire point of not liking subjective questions?
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Does this fall under the "WE aren't Riot, we can't answer" sort of idea? gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/60644/…
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@murgatroid99 1) You thought wrong. 2) You're assigning an intention to the question that isn't there - he doesn't solicit opinions once. He asks why professional players are making a specific choice. The fact that he's getting opinions as answers isn't really relevant - he's not asking for them, and you should down vote the ones that don't conform to the aforelinked principle of backing it up.
 
Conversation ended Apr 2, 2012 at 1:29.