Conversation started Mar 16, 2016 at 5:55.
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
Mar 16, 2016 05:55
@DeNiSkA Well, chemistry hates you too.
@Caesium-133 High five
@DeNiSkA I actually think the physics they teach in schools is uselessly impractical.
At least a sizable portion of the chem they teach is applicable to real chem too.
BTW, dude, what were you doing up 4 in the morning?
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
@IͶΔ yes! i think chem hates me that's why i am not able to understand
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
@DeNiSkA Are you on desktop?
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
yes, why?
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
You can reply to chat messages by hovering over a message and clicking the bent arrow on the right.
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
oh! i see.....
but i don't want to use mouse !!
@IͶΔ and physics is the subject which demands love i mean everyone to understand physics has to study physics on his own, no third party teacher or school is required to teach!! :\
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
Mar 16, 2016 06:02
Every subject demands love.
How do you think linguists keep interest in what they do?
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
but chemistry demands time waste !!!(lol)
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
So does physics.
So does math, or any other subject.
And I call that devotion, thankuverymuch
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
::*laughs*:: i think you got angry?
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
Nope
That's just how I roll
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
oh!! then it's ok
in chemistry we have lots and lots of exception and almost no law is totaly successful in giving its definition
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
Mar 16, 2016 06:07
That's because they're not laws. Merely guidelines.
Wow:
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DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
woah woah woah!!!
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
So AIWS, stuff like octet are only simplifications.
Get to some real calculations and MO and stuff and see why these stuff don't get exceptions.
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
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IͶΔ
IͶΔ
Many things in science are oversimplifications.
For instance, you take the magnetic field in a solenoids to be constant.
While it is not.
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
that's just a method to simplify!!
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
Mar 16, 2016 06:15
In physics, they don't even bother you with the real stuff. So you happily calculate it without considering that the number you're coming up with isn't the right number.
BUT!
When you don't need a more accurate calculation, there's no need to bother yourself with it.
Same goes in math.
But if it does in the case of some easy functions, then why not use it?
L'Hôpital's rule doesn't yield useful results sometimes.
AND
Same goes in chemistry.
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
hey L'Hôpital's rule is just a method to simplify when you see the proof (with integration ) there you can understand why it has a drawback
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
Hückel's rule is a good guideline to know which compound is aromatic and which is not in planar cyclic conjugated stuff.
But it fails in the case of coronenes.
Because it's a simplification.
So the only difference is that you also study the quirks to what you study in high school chem, while you don't in physics. That's why high school chem is crappy but is still superior to high school physics IMO.
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
hm!! maybe at high level chemistry may get better but at my level it is just like teaching a monkey to talk
btw don't you have physics as your subject?
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
Yes.
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
only classical mechanics or (general relativity and all those super stuff)?
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
Mar 16, 2016 06:27
Relativity might be a subject next year.
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
then you are going to love physics!! because relativity is damn interesting!
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
Interesting, but again, practically useless.
I don't need to know relativity to dilute a solution in lab.
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
lol!!!
but if you want to travel to past you can use relativity(when something great happens)
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
The sane me wouldn't want to travel to past. The idle curious me, however.
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
well according to relativity you can't but you can definitely travel to future!!
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
Mar 16, 2016 06:34
I don't wanna go to future. I wanna make future, man
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
haha!!
so it means you don't have a wish to see what wil happen after 1000000 years after you!
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
Yes, I don't.
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
oh! you don't want to travel to other planet?(because loving sun is gonna die)
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
In 4 billion years.
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
Now i really think you hate physics!!
IͶΔ
IͶΔ
Mar 16, 2016 06:39
There's a difference between invoking idle curiosity and knowing something for fun.
There's a difference between knowing something for fun and learning something for fun.
And there's a difference between learning something for fun and learning it because you have to.
Stuff you say are either in the "idle curiosity" thing.
Or "because you have to" one.
They're cool and all, but they never are as cool as "knowing/learning something for fun".
DeNiSkA
DeNiSkA
well i am not good at roll but i think you are an expert!! _/ _
 
Conversation ended Mar 16, 2016 at 6:42.