Conversation started Apr 15, 2012 at 16:27.
ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells
ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells
Apr 15, 2012 16:27
Question: apropos of stuff like stackoverflow.com/questions/10161888/…, and the new policy of 'request the OP to flag for migration', is it worth posting candidates into Vote to ellipsis and requesting people post comments suggesting a move to dba.se (with the implication that it might get answered if moved), or is that being petty?
 
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Jack Douglas
Jack Douglas
Apr 15, 2012 18:03
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells I think it is still ok to flag for moderator migration? Not old or answer-accepted is the rule IIUC and there is some wriggle-room is the accepted answer is yours :-)
The main thing with flagging is not to flag without discretion - if is obviously on-topic on SO then it is best not to flag even if dba.se would be a slightly better home
@Shog9, @jcolebrand have I got that right?
not sure if @Shog9 will get that ping - depends when he was in here last...
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
@JackDouglas What's up?
Jack Douglas
Jack Douglas
hello
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
Yo
(talking on the phone and monitoring a remote process)
Jack Douglas
Jack Douglas
see:
> new policy of 'request the OP to flag for migration'
above from COTW
can you have a look at what I have replied and check I'm not wrong (again) :-)
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
I wouldn't worry about posting them into chat for anything in particular
I think the main thing is to not want to have everything migrated en-masse
There's still room to migrate older Q, depending on the age.
Jack Douglas
Jack Douglas
Apr 15, 2012 18:09
COTW can still flag Qs like the one he's just linked to, right? It is clearly off-topic on SO IIUC
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
I think that it would be helpful to have @shog9 weigh in on it.
In this case, yes, I think that it's highly offtopic for SO
Jack Douglas
Jack Douglas
does @Shog9 get our pings in here?
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
but in general the other questions, the point is "just because it uses a db or sql, doesn't mean it has to come here"
having the OP request it is just a way of signaling "I realize I'm going to have less eyeballs, but more from experts" so that people quit crying so much
Jack Douglas
Jack Douglas
oops, got to go, sorry
bye
jcolebrand
jcolebrand
Apr 15, 2012 19:02
Blog - Stack Exchange: Respect the community – your own, and others’
Shog9 on March 22, 2012

In “Why Can’t You Have Just One Site?” Jeff wrote about the rationale for creating three sites instead of one, and the process for determining where a question belongs:

Is it really so hard to figure out which community you belong to, and thus, where your question belongs? Ask yourself this:

what is your job title?

which community do you consider yourself a part of?

what are you trying to accomplish?

You can use the same mountain to go downhill really fast on snow — but it’s plainly evident to the participant which culture they consider themselves a part of, “skiers” or “snowboarders”. …

Shog9
Shog9
@JackDouglas Yeah, I get it if I'm around - I wasn't though. ;-P
Shog9
Shog9
Apr 15, 2012 19:25
@JackDouglas I agree with that statement. My big concerns are flags on old, answered questions, and flags on stuff that doesn't need to be moved.
 
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ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells
ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells
Apr 15, 2012 20:44
@Shog9 How do you feel about stuff in the grey area 'advanced database development', particularly if they haven't got terribly good content off the SO posters?
e.g.
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A: DB performance with large set of data

ConcernedOfTunbridgeWellsThis problem turns up in a number of guises. In your case, it seems that you have a range of products, each of which may have a different set of properties. I think that you need a way to store these properties in a way that is extensible so you can add new products to the system. Approach 1: ...

I answered this one. Actually it's more of a DB design question, but would have a significant effect on application architecture.
IMHO, I'm concerned that we don't get pushed into a 'dba only' niche. I'm trying to make DBA.SE a natural home for data warehouse and B.I. development questions (see this meta post). The mods and user community here are largely in favour of this.
Shog9
Shog9
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells How do I feel about them being asked on DBAs? Or being migrated from SO?
ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells
ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells
@Shog9 Migrated from SO.
Shog9
Shog9
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells If they're unanswered, and clearly borderline for SO, migration is fine
ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells
ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells
@Shog9 What about DB development questions on SO that either (a) have crap answers or (b) could reasonably fall into the 'advanced database development' baliwick of DBA.SE? This question is specifically about questions that could reasonably belong on either site.
Shog9
Shog9
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells Well, if they're on-topic for SO and they were asked on SO, they should probably stay there unless the OP requests migration.
That doesn't mean you can't suggest this in a comment, or point to a similar / related question on DBAs by way of enticement.
It's tricky, because yes - some folks are definitely asking questions that would benefit from being migrated, whether they realize it or not...
..but some folks are intentionally asking on SO because they don't necessarily want an "advanced db dev" answer
ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells
ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells
Apr 15, 2012 20:53
@Shog9 The original strategy was to use migration to drop subtle (or not so) hints that DBA.SE was the appropriate place for this sort of thing.
@Shog9 Can you elaborate on that (at least on anything but really basic questions)?
Shog9
Shog9
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells e.g., they really aren't looking to solve their problems in the DB layer. They know they need one, and it needs to be barely adequate, but they (or their team) are much more comfortable once they have the data in memory and don't have to think about the database anymore. They're looking for solutions that get them to that point and then solve with, say, C# code.
(I gotta run - will check back in later)
ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells
ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells
@Shog9 Did we get a significant number of questions like that migrated before?
 
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Shog9
Shog9
Apr 16, 2012 00:25
@ConcernedOfTunbridgeWells Not that I'm aware of
 
Conversation ended Apr 16, 2012 at 0:25.