Conversation started May 31, 2012 at 19:01.
BMitch
BMitch
May 31, 2012 19:01
Welcome to Project Update Thursday
Chris Cudmore
Chris Cudmore
Hello All.
BMitch
BMitch
Hello back at you
wax eagle
wax eagle
howdy
Chris Cudmore
Chris Cudmore
I think I found my mid-life crisis:
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wax eagle
wax eagle
@ChrisCudmore that looks yummy
Chris Cudmore
Chris Cudmore
May 31, 2012 19:10
Cheaper then either a mistress or a porsche.
Tester101
Tester101
Look at all those shiny knobs!
Chris Cudmore
Chris Cudmore
It's only 1500, which I actually think is a bit cheap. I wonder about the quality.
Tester101
Tester101
Does it have a fridge?
Chris Cudmore
Chris Cudmore
I can't remember. I came across it at lowes. There's a full 2-burner gas stove on the left. A broiling/warming tray on the right.
The Evil Greebo
The Evil Greebo
May 31, 2012 19:37
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Chris Cudmore
Chris Cudmore
The problem is, I'd need another 5k in yardwork to give it a suitable home
Tester101
Tester101
Anybody know anything about Trigeneration? Could a system like this be useful in a residential setting?
Aaron
Aaron
May 31, 2012 19:56
I'm here now
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that's our stove
anyone have any comments about my gable vent idea?
Tester101
Tester101
When do I get to use the stove?
Chris Cudmore
Chris Cudmore
Should we move over to Cooking?
@tester101 I think electricity from your local utility would be cheaper than natural gas.
Aaron
Aaron
electricity around here is bleeping expensive
Tester101
Tester101
my gas bill is lower in the winter, than my electric bill is in the summer. And I try to limit how much I run the central A\C, whereas I run the heat all the time in the winter.
Whenever I turn on the A\C, I watch the meter spin and I start sweating more.
Aaron
Aaron
so, gable vent fan without soffits, worthwhile or no?
Tester101
Tester101
May 31, 2012 20:10
@Aaron Where is makeup air coming from?
Aaron
Aaron
There are 2 gable vents, one on either side (facing west and east)
I could put a vent fan in just one of them and suck the air in the other one I suppose
Tester101
Tester101
Sounds like a good idea to me then. just don't put a fan in each vent blowing out.
Aaron
Aaron
I'm not quite sure I understand the thermodynamics of how blowing hot air out of the attic will keep the insulated space cooler though
Tester101
Tester101
The optimal solution would be to use an anemometer to turn one fan off and the other on, depending on the outside wind direction.
@Aaron Because it will be sucking cooler outside air into the space.
BMitch
BMitch
@Aaron Insulation slows the transfer of heat. If the temperature is the same on both sides, there's little to slow, but the larger the difference in temperature, the faster the transfer through the insulation
Aaron
Aaron
May 31, 2012 20:16
But the insulated space is under the attic
BMitch
BMitch
@Aaron Is your oven mitt one sided?
Tester101
Tester101
You blow it out one side, creating negative pressure in the attic. the cooler outside air is pulled (or pushed depending on who you talk to) into the attic.
Aaron
Aaron
@BMitch I use a trivet
@Tester101 right, I get the pressure differential sucking the cooler air in, but I don't get how that keeps the 2nd floor from getting hot
BMitch
BMitch
@Aaron You use a trivet to pull dishes out of the oven? That should be a youtube video.
@Aaron long story short, yes heat rises, but it also transfers in all directions
Tester101
Tester101
think of it like water. water always tries to find equilibrium. So too does heat.
Aaron
Aaron
May 31, 2012 20:21
So if the attic is 120 F and the 2nd story is 85F by making the attic 100F instead the 2nd story might only be 80F?
Tester101
Tester101
if you keep the same amount of water in the attic as you have in the house, the water will not move between the two.
@Aaron that's correct. the less temperature difference, the less transfer.
Aaron
Aaron
Then I will do so forthwith
Sadly, as I have a slate roof the solar powered hole in the roof ones are not really practical
@Tester101 if I edit my blog post can you re-post it without fouling up everything? the comments alerted me to some self-inflicted errors
Tester101
Tester101
Hmm. Does editing un-publish it?
BMitch
BMitch
And on the gable fans, we had them growing up. But we didn't turn them on constantly, only during the evening after a really hot day.
Tester101
Tester101
@Aaron I think you can edit it in place.
BMitch
BMitch
May 31, 2012 20:28
@Aaron there's nothing sad about a slate roof, it's probably the best roof you can get
Tester101
Tester101
@Aaron make the edit. If it un-publishes, let me know and I'll fix it.
BMitch
BMitch
May 31, 2012 21:21
Thanks for joining this week's PUT
 
Conversation ended May 31, 2012 at 21:21.