Conversation started Jul 15, 2020 at 18:32.
Jul 15, 2020 18:32
Hey @Someone_Evil how long should one wait before reposting a closed question with proper tags?
asking for a friend
Or is that an appropriate meta discussion to have?
What a fun question that is. IIRC it takes a month for closed questions with a score of 0 or less(?) to be deleted, so at that point you'd absolutely be good.
@ThomasMarkov definitely appropriate for meta.
The system doesn't actually care about who asks and so on, but anything less than 24h seems rude to me an even then. We said 72h for homebrew-review iterations so maybe that's a pace to hook onto
not sure if I have any idea how to come up with a reasonable one aside from the roomba date that @Someone_Evil already mentioned
I'm not sure you're gonna get a firm answer, or at least not until it becomes a problem and we need to enact a policy
Jul 15, 2020 18:43
@Someone_Evil Im trying to get a policy before I make it a problem :p
but thinking through it, I can anticipate some issues it may cause which ill bring up in the meta.
We do get querent coming back weeks later and specify the system. Not often, but I'm not looking forward to explaining to an asker "Sorry you're question was reasked by someone else, closed as dupe. But you do have an answer now..."
if they waited weeks did they really want the answer? :p
I don't think you're going to get any agreed upon answer to "How long do I have to wait before stealing a question"
If you do ask this I'd honestly just say "Link to the supposed-duplicate so it can receive the upvotes and make your own question a community-wiki so you can't"
@Medix2 At least with good questions, there comes a point where "stealing" benefits the community.
@ThomasMarkov yes. I had to wait a year for an answer to a question once ..
Jul 15, 2020 18:46
@Medix2 community wiki is a great idea.
@ThomasMarkov At the moment we seem to be jumping towards doing a meta override, so let's not throw multiple, incompatible approaches at the same time :)
@Someone_Evil We might be able to merge the questions in that case.
@ThomasMarkov I'm not sure I actually see how CW helps at all here.
@ThomasMarkov Note that CW q automatically have CW answers
@Rubiksmoose "see, thomas didnt steal your rep"
@Rubiksmoose Removes most things you could possibly be considered to be stealing (reputation). though not views
Jul 15, 2020 18:47
@Someone_Evil ah, nvm then.
@Someone_Evil Welp, TIL
@Medix2 I don't see "stealing" as the big issue here necessarily. But maybe to other users it could be.
You could technically give any reputation you make off the question away with a bounty...
@Rubiksmoose Not sure explaining merge will be any easier.
I think the biggest concern here is something like "new user optics"
Jul 15, 2020 18:48
@Rubiksmoose If stealing isn't the big issue... Then shouldn't I just reask the chronal shift question right now? (I think I am genuinely missing something since that's the whole reason I wouldn't re-ask it)
I should say rep gain isn't the big issue.
@Medix2 that would be stealing in principle from me :p
The issue is that the question is being reasked by someone else. Not gaining rep wouldn't fix that issue at all
@Someone_Evil Probably wouldn't have to as long as we merged it into the original question
Hmmm, I suppose I'd be stealing ownership as much as that's possible on this site, fair
@Rubiksmoose Oh, I see. Hmm...
Jul 15, 2020 18:51
Not that I want to have to deal with merging, to be clear.
Could we see how using meta overrides works out a bit first?
It's kind of a difficult tool to use and can only be done by diamond mods.
I was posing a hypothetical solution to a hypothetical issue. Not trying to derail the current line of thinking. We have one meta going on fixing the question, I agree we should see how that goes first.
And heck, OP may come back 5 minutes from now and make this all moot anyways.
[fingers crossed]
Im still going to ask the meta
seen lots of good ideas and discussion here, id like to see some of it recorded there.
@Someone_Evil What's a "meta override"?
it's great that we all know exactly what the question is but have to do shenanigans like reask it just to be able to answer it.
Jul 15, 2020 18:56
@Carcer Well seemingly people agree with that state of affairs
@Medix2 Meta question which overrides the no-guess policy for a given question
@Medix2 Well, at least not enough of them disagree ;-)
@Someone_Evil I mean... the policy says to do them (in edit 15 or something I'm sure)
@Carcer an upsettingly poignant commentary on the drawbacks of the policy.
@Medix2 Fine, overrides the general rule.
Jul 15, 2020 18:58
specific beats general :p
@ThomasMarkov I was trying to not actually say that :)
@Someone_Evil Oh oh, I see what you mean now, sorry about that
we've agreed this is the price we have to pay so that people who should be less confident about whether or not they've positively identified the right game don't make mistakes
kids in comments on untagged posts be like...
 
Conversation ended Jul 15, 2020 at 19:02.