Conversation started May 20, 2014 at 7:26.
doppelgreener
doppelgreener
May 20, 2014 07:26
I want to check if I have something straight re: spellcasting in D&D 3.5e. Is this an accurate summary of Wizards, Sorcerers, and Clerics?

Wizards: Prepared casting. Limited amount of known spells based on what you can jam into a spellbook. New spells learned each level, plus whatever you can copy down. Limited spell slots per day. Spells are prepared from spell book into spells known each day.

Sorcerer: Spontaneous casting. Spells are simply known. New spells are learned each level. Hard limit on spells known. You don't learn spells off a scroll. Limited spell slots per day. No prep.
lisardggY
lisardggY
@BESW An underused and unappreciated mark, indeed.
BESW
BESW
@JonathanHobbs Yes, that's accurate.
Metool
Metool
There is... almost no class that uses spells proper without running out eventually, to my knowledge.
BESW
BESW
Addendum to Wizard: "plus whatever you can copy down" requires access to the spell in a copyable form and materials to write it with (with a level-based gold piece cost) and space in a book to write it in.
lisardggY
lisardggY
@Metool Pathfinder lets you cast cantrips pretty much without any limitations, though 3.5 was a bit different, I think.
doppelgreener
doppelgreener
May 20, 2014 07:30
@BESW Right, but as long as you have a scroll or book to copy off, and something sufficient to write it in and with, you can copy it down.
Metool
Metool
@lisardggY Yes, but those are a separate class feature, and only classes that can cast at 1st level gain them.
doppelgreener
doppelgreener
Wow. Clerics are like... the kings of spell access.
Sorcerers are limited to what they know. Wizards are limited to far more: what they've copied. Clerics don't even care, they just have their entire list to pick from.
I must away to shop and go home! Tally ho!
BESW
BESW
@JonathanHobbs Druids are even insaner, because they have the same kind of "entire list" access plus their spontaneous casting is for summon nature's ally, which is much more adaptable to situational need.
(And at higher level includes summoning unicorns to do healing for you.)
Metool
Metool
Also, pet, but that's a different thing entirely.
BESW
BESW
Yes, pet, and wild shape. But in terms of pure spell access/versatility and ignoring other class features...
Clerics are more... shape-able... as a class, to conform to a particular build.
But druids are the out-of-the-box masters of "Sure, give me a couple hours to re-set and I can do that." Wizards can beat them with effort, but not out of the box.
trogdor
trogdor
May 20, 2014 08:13
@BESW I remember you helping me to make a 3.5 druid to basically do that
 
Conversation ended May 20, 2014 at 8:13.