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5:03 PM
@RegDwighт ty sir/animal
 
@KitFox Haha, that's funny. I'm not surprised kids fake monsters on purpose some of the time.
By the way, did you read that part about the Monster Spray?
 
Yeah, Mommy's more sophisticated than that.
 
A spray can with water that you can use to eradicate monsters in his room.
 
If we had Monster Spray, he'd want to spray it all the time.
 
What if he did?
 
5:07 PM
So no. Mommy teaches absolute dominance over monsters.
 
Ah.
Somehow, I was never afraid of monsters.
I rather feared things that actually existed (though in other places), like spiders and burglars.
> My daughter said to me that there is a woman who watches her watch movies in her room and sleeps on the ceiling above her bed when she sleeps. she also says it dose not like me and wants to eat my heart. my kid watches elmo and fucking dinosaur train. where in the hell did she get this from?
Fucking Dinosaur Train indeed.
closing Reddit tab
 
5:26 PM
Nov 28 '12 at 14:42, by Robusto
Live, and the world lives with you. Die, and you die alone.
 
not sure it makes sense in Sweden but sounds profound.
 
Yes. Exactly that.
 
There's a RL version, too.
 
5:35 PM
Who ever came up with this shit? I have what appears to be near identical blinds at work, except the mechanism is such it works like a charm, with just one string.
 
@RegDwighт Haha I love it.
 
Mine are finicky sometimes, but never like that.
 
@Rob What do you think of this nocturne? I'm interested in your impression after listening to the first 30 seconds or so. Don't read the description, and don't look up Emily Howell if you don't already know the composer.
 
Mine also have a separate stick that you can turn to control the angle of attack of the blades, i.e. how much light gets through and from which direction.
But for up and down, it's just one string.
 
@RegDwighт I have cords for that.
Up and down is a single looped cord.
 
5:41 PM
So yeah if it's a single cord I suppose yours are more like mine and cannot be screwed up like in the video.
 
@Cerberus I never heard of her. But this sounds perfectly ordinary, like something I could write. Which is why I gave up music composition.
 
I thought her Vivaldi style was really bad, but the Chopin surprises me.
 
I probably could if I managed to pull one side of the loop...
 
@Robusto OK thanks. She is an algorithm.
 
There are no surprises in it.
 
5:41 PM
But getting them out of sync would be difficult.
 
Oh, really? Interesting.
 
Haha. My thought was that it was expressionless.
 
Jul 24 '12 at 11:32, by RegDwight АΑA
Oh and did you know that Mozart provided people with the means to write their own menuets by using dice? That was just pure distilled math.
 
@Robusto I figure it still sounds nice because she just plucked little bits of music from Chopin himself?
@KitFox Nice.
 
And yeah, that's nothing like Chopin. Chopin would have modulated the crap out of that thing. It does start to get more interesting at about 1:20, but the main theme is as cheap as it gets.
 
5:43 PM
@Cerberus So expressionless derivative compositions are OK if a computer composes them?
 
It'd make fine ambient music for my blade runner office.
 
It'd make film music for every film ever.
 
There is no such thing as "ambient" music. You either listen to it or you ignore it.
 
sticks out tongue
 
It's not fucking wallpaper. sticks out tongue back
 
5:45 PM
@RegDwighт I'm thinking it is probably a slight variation on a theme from one of Chopin's existing nocturnes, though I wouldn't know which one.
 
Ask Barry Manilow.
 
@Robusto I'm just trying to figure how much the program itself really contributed.
 
@Robusto Yes, it is. You just don't have space in your brain that needs decorating.
 
How's that for a compliment.
 
@Robusto but it would be quiet if it was turned off?
 
5:46 PM
@Cerberus Who cares? In this case the computer has become the proverbial "million monkeys typing in a roomi" who might eventually produce Shakespeare just by chance.
 
@Robusto Yeah, I don't really understand why people want music in a café with people in it. They're not listening—not that they could really hear it anyway. The only real reason I understand is that it fills up the silence when it's still empty.
 
@JohanLarsson I'm quiet when I'm turned off. Or haven't you noticed.
 
He can't turn you off.
Only on.
 
...so you're...turned on right now?
 
Would-be jinx.
 
5:47 PM
@Cerberus There are few urges stronger than people's desire to talk over a really interesting piece of music.
 
@Robusto Or perhaps rather a pair of advanced scissors that save you some time if you want to create a variation on an existing piece or combine several pieces?
 
@Robusto I just don't know what to do with the rest of me.
 
I can turn my head 360 degrees and scream 'the anti christ has awaken'—here
 
@RegDwighт No, I would not that it be.
 
@Robusto Yeah, so just don't play music, except when people specifically come to listen.
 
5:48 PM
@KitFox I would you be like that, then.
 
@Cerberus I learned the hard way, by playing with a trio in a posh restaurant.
 
That's why I only play for myself.
 
@Robusto you a jazz man? You have a couple of gems for us?
 
If people choose to listen, good for them. If not, what do I care.
 
If it were really interesting, people wouldn't talk over it.
 
5:50 PM
They would and they will. Rob is precisely right.
 
Bah. Humbug.
 
People don't read interesting books, either. They read Martha Stewart and Dan Brown.
Your definition of interesting is too literal.
I don't have to be interested in stuff for it to be interesting.
 
What?
 
There are any number of interesting things going in the world right now and yet I'm typing in this room instead. It's completely orthogonal.
 
there is also an extremely poor signal to noise ratio of interesting things and the opposite going on
 
5:54 PM
You make my head feel bad.
 
With the posh restaurant, people come there to have vapid smalltalk, so have vapid smalltalk they do. They didn't come for the music, so they couldn't care less if it's interesting even if, and that's a big if already, even if they do acknowledge it's interesting.
 
@Robusto Yikes.
 
Mom: "Well, how would feel, if, say, somebody started saying that you killed cats?"

Older Kid (horrified): "I don't kill cats"

Younger Kid (consolingly): "That's right, you don't kill cats. You don't even have a hammer"
@RegDwighт But then...why complain?
 
@RegDwighт but they would notice if it was switched with Pantera
 
@KitFox I don't think anyone complained. Certainly not me. And I didn't see Rob complaining, either.
Me, I said the exact opposite thing of complaining. That I don't give a shit if they give a shit.
 
5:56 PM
I thought...
 
@RegDwighт Yeah. One of the many reasons I quit performing. You put your heart and soul into something and you might as well be wallpaper.
 
And he, he merely stated a fact.
 
sighs Never mind.
I am going to waste my time catching up on the last few months of Girl Genius that I haven't read yet.
 
@Robusto which is usually where money should come in, lest I stay at home.
 
Yeah. The thing is, playing for money got to feel like prostitution to me.
 
5:58 PM
Well it is. You have to accept that as an axiom, not a corollary.
 
I couldn't accept it. That's the problem.
 
Mmm, I love those kind of whores.
 
Or not accept it and play for yourself.
You were faster.
 
I understand.
Producing truly good things clashes with capitalism in some ways.
 
The trouble is, doing something that is absolutely soulless isn't any good either. Which is why I got out of advertising.
 
5:59 PM
@Cerberus It clashes because popular != good and good != popular, and with capitalism you typically want to optimize both.
 
What I learned from advertising is not just that you have to sell your soul, but you have to get in line to do it.
 
And here I am trying to peddle mine.
 
@Robusto yeah sometimes I have those days when I catch myself not listening to what I'm playing, and that's when I stop immediately.
 
@RegDwighт No, you typically want to optimise only popular/financial value.
 
Not selling your soul to others is one thing, not putting any in, another.
 
6:01 PM
@Robusto Eww.
 
@JohanLarsson We've replaced Scotty's dilithium crystals with new Folger's Crystals. Let's see if he notices!
 
On a lighter note:
> Report: Microsoft’s next console will be called Xbox Infinity — Will its successor be the Xbox Infinity + 1?
 
@Cerberus If you think popular music or art or writing are any different, you're deceiving yourself.
 
@MετάEd Hee hee
 
@Cerberus XBox Infinity 2.0!
 
6:02 PM
@Robusto They often are, but they don't have to be.
@Robusto facepaw
 
@Cerberus the financial part is what I mean, though. If you sell something that is too crap, you'll go out of business as soon as a competitor makes a product that's just a wee bit less crap. But since everyone wants to make money and not lose it, they won't make it too good, either. So you're looking for an equilibrium that's neither good nor bad.
 
@RegDwighт I would never have read that into your other line, but OK! That's part of the problem, yeah.
 
You do want to be popular, and you do want to be good, but you end up exactly in the middle.
 
Part of the problem is also that people treat art as a means to an end, the end being attention and/or status and/or money.
 
When you climb that bell curve you don't wind up on top, you wind up in the middle.
@Cerberus Well, duh.
 
6:05 PM
Ideally, you produce art because you like it, period. You don't want to show it other people.
@Robusto Duh indeed; but one often reads articles these days in which this is not seen as a problem, but as the normal state: "success" for art means it got attention.
 
Well, personally, I want to write novels to sell them.
 
See?
 
@Cerberus Haven't you ever noticed that the most popular things are actually the worst? Do you think J. K. Rowling became the richest author in history by putting out masterpieces? She's the Horatio Alger of her generation.
 
I suppose in some way the desire to share one's aesthetic experience with others is benign. But it's nearly always mixed with a strong squirt of attention-whoring.
 
I'm probably the only person left in the world who has never watched the Gangnam Style video. It's become a point of pride with me.
 
6:08 PM
@Robusto Of course. This has been known since Antiquity, probably.
@Robusto My soul is lost in that respect, alas. Then again, I don't care.
I have not read HP, though.
 
HP?
 
Even though I might still find it enjoyable. I don't even known whether it's bad or good or mediocre. Harry Potter.
 
Oh.
I tried to read the first book when my son was of that age, but I got 50 pages in and couldn't read another word.
 
That bad?
 
Yes.
Every bit that bad.
 
6:10 PM
I thought it was kind of fun?
 
I liked them.
 
Many people do.
Then again, many people like crisps (like me).
 
@Robusto Same here, except it was the fifth or forth book for me. Unbearable, really.
 
@Cerberus You're a crisp?
 
face2paw
Don't make me paw face 3 too!
 
6:13 PM
I will go for the hat trick if the situation arises.
 
@RegDwighт Et tu, uhu?
 
Chthulu?
 
Uhu is Latin for a kind of owl, I think.
 
Actually unbearable is perhaps too strong per se, it was just not interesting. At all. So I had to force myself to read on, and that is why it became unbearable.
 
Because they say "uhu!".
 
6:14 PM
@KitFox Umm, do you think Lovecraft's initials stand for Harry Potter?
 
Why was it not interesting? The story wasn't exciting or surprising in any way?
 
Because it was a one-woman show where clearly a skillful editor or really any editor would be in order.
 
Hmm.
 
Kind of like with Django Unchained.
 
@RegDwighт Yes, agreed.
I still liked them though.
 
6:16 PM
I know.
 
There are plenty of books that I've enjoyed that I thought could use some extensive edits.
 
@Cerberus Rowling isn't fit to wipe Ursula K. LeGuin's ass. You want to read a really good wizard novel, try A Wizard of Earthsea.
5
 
Asimov annoys me too (now reading some of his short stories), because he doesn't seem to think things through at all, even the most basic and important things. But it's still enjoyable.
@Robusto Noted.
 
@Robusto Now those were some good books.
 
I mean, again, I jumped on the bandwagon very late. I had heard all kinds of positive feedback from friends I deeply respect. And I think I had even seen the first movie by then, though I might be mistaken on that part.
 
6:17 PM
I like Lloyd Alexander's stuff too.
 
@RegDwighт I was prepared to like them, since everyone was making such an uproar, and also my son was way into them. So I tried and failed.
 
@Cerberus I read too little of Asimov's to comment on that with confidence, but from what little I know, it would appear to me that it's sort of the whole point that he entertains exactly one central idea per story.
 
@RegDwighт Yes, very succinct.
@Robusto Well, I think they are very girl-oriented.
 
(Asimov's bicentennial man, for example, wants to be human: but there is no clue or explanation of why he would want to. And it doesn't make sense at all against his background. It is a bit like Data in Star Trek: he has no emotions (whatever those are), and yet he "wants" things and is a good friend and stuff. It's cheap.)
 
@KitFox Come on, I know plenty of girls who aren't that sappy.
 
6:21 PM
@RegDwighт I always thought Mr Django was Mrs Jenga’s husband. You know, the chick who lives in that funny house that keeps falling down.
 
@KitFox not sure about that. 50/50 in my Freundschaftskreis.
 
Jus' sayin'.
 
@RegDwighт And that's great: his plots are very strong. But these central ideas contain glaring mistakes, like the one above. In another story, the best scientists in the world are trying to solve the problem of locating inhabited worlds. And all the computers they design have to be in the body of a man-sized robot, and they communicate with it through human language. I mean, come on! And one of the central problems about these robots is that people are afraid of robots that resemble man!
 
And anyway, since when is "girl-oriented" supposed to be an excuse? Who says girl-oriented stuff can't be da bomb?
 
Word.
 
6:23 PM
@Cerberus well I certainly believe you. I just haven't read it myself.
 
OK.
The mistakes in his Foundation series are less prominent.
Forgivable, I would say.
 
@RegDwighт Since forever. And why would it appeal to you if it's written for girls?
 
@Cerberus Well, maybe the truth is that we don't make robots because we want a servant but because we want a companion.
 
@Robusto But that is totally outside the scope of that story.
 
No it isn't either.
 
6:24 PM
The robots primarily serve as computers to perform difficult calculations.
 
@KitFox well I did watch Sex and the City. Start to finish. And the two movies. Why? Because know your foe, that's why.
 
@RegDwighт ...
speechless
 
@RegDwighт But that didn't appeal to you. That was just research.
Right?
 
Suuure.
 
My husband sent me flowers, btw.
 
6:25 PM
Aww.
 
Oh it did appeal to me alright. Perhaps not in the same ways as to you, but who knows such things.
 
Now you're just trolling me.
 
@RegDwighт I've done things like that to get laid. I guess I'm more interested in carnal knowledge than ordinary knowledge.
 
I can't imagine watching that show. I think it would wind me tighter than a drum.
 
@Robusto nah that's too extreme for me. If I had to watch Sex and the City 2 to get laid, I wouldn't want to get laid with that person.
 
6:27 PM
What if you had to pay her € 5?
 
Sex and the city is not the worst that has been broadcasted, far from it imo.
 
@RegDwighт You say that now, but how about after six weeks of no sex?
 
@KitFox well it did. That can be fun, though. In fact bitching is the easiest fun. It's hard to review good things.
 
@JohanLarsson Not that far from it.
 
Stop talking about it. scowls
 
6:28 PM
@Robusto Come up with something better? Most TV sux extremely hard imo
 
@Robusto well perhaps that is your problem right there.
In fact, scratch the perhaps.
 
@RegDwighт It has been at various parts of my life. What, you've never gone that long?
I didn't realize we were in the presence of such a stud. My apologies.
 
growls
 
@Robusto Of course. But I just don't understand how looking at Sarah Jessica Parker's face mole is going to fix that. But to each his own. To each his own.
 
@RegDwighт Not that in particular. Chick flix in general. Guys put up with them to get laid. End of story.
 
6:31 PM
Well I am happy to report that I have sailed clear of that.
 
@Robusto If you're serious, that's just weird.
 
I watched Titanic and other shit in my spare time, and for myself.
 
@RegDwighт Good for you. And do you know what to do when you reap such wonderful good fortune in your life? Keep it to yourself.
 
I saw The Wedding Planner on my birthday, even. And yes, a girl was present but she wasn't mine. And so were three guys and they weren't mine, either.
 
I'm not condemning prostitution in any way, btw. If you like doing that, fine.
 
6:33 PM
@Cerberus well he is serious, but of course how would you know. What with your TV and all.
 
I went to see the (first?) SatC film with friends. But they were girls and gays, so they don't count.
 
Hey, I have an idea. Let's start closing questions as duplicates that are cited as originals in other dupe closings. We might create a wormhole or something.
 
@RegDwighт SatC! Film!
 
@Robusto Kris tried that the other month.
 
@RegDwighт Now you're just trying to be hurtful.
 
6:34 PM
@Cerberus you can't tell me you went in to get laid by some chick. Not even with your straight face on.
 
@RegDwighт Haha, no.
 
QED
 
I just went along for the social thing.
 
@Robusto no, I am once again reporting on facts.
 
But a SatC film interests me as little as a random action flick.
If that is an expression.
 
6:35 PM
What is SatC?
 
Sex!
And...
 
Oh.
 
I like how your mind blocks it out.
 
I hunger.
 
For...
It?
 
6:38 PM
Stupid machine froze.
Anyhoo.
@Kris this nTuplicate is earning upvotes because it is not an nTuplicate but the original question. Look at the dates, look at the post IDs. The question you linked to is a duplicate of this one, posted forteen months later. And if you pay attention, it was closed as such, almost a year ago. There are two more duplicates, both identified as dupes and closed. You are now suggesting, for reasons that escape me, to close the original as well, so we have four questions closed as duplicates of each other, and exactly zero questions on the subject open. — RegDwighт Apr 18 at 8:49
 
@RegDwighт Who says "just reporting on facts" can't be hurtful?
 
@Robusto Fox News.
 
@RegDwighт I said facts not Fox.
 
@RegDwighт I think that's what many people on this site actually want!
Fax.
 
@Robusto Well I said Fox not facts, so we are quits.
 
6:39 PM
You need to be vixen that sentence.
 
@Cerberus who fax whom now?
 
Would you say them in a box? Would you say them with a Fox?
 
Facts fax Fox.
 
Faux?
 
You have to think outside the Fox News.
@JohanLarsson yes, that's the oldest pun.
 
6:41 PM
I guess, never saw it before
 
Note how they even come in second. That's a nice googlebomb, I didn't know that.
 
@RegDwighт yep ~1M results, still did not see it until now, not surprised though
 
Spend one minute on Reddit.
Or even just fifty-nine seconds.
@tchrist not available in my country. WTF. First they burnt music, but I said nothing as I was no music. Now they burn books?
 
6:44 PM
sads
 
Oh crap, Windows Update. So that's why.
BBL rebooting.
 
Haha.
 
@RegDwighт You could have left out the update part and still have made a credible statement.
 
I was young. I needed the money.
 
6:51 PM
> When a fox is in the bottle where the tweetle beetles battle with their paddles in a puddle on a noodle-eating poodle, THIS is what they call... ...a tweetle beetle noodle poodle bottled paddled muddled duddled fuddled wuddled fox in socks, sir!
 

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