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12:22 AM
If I leave clothes in the drier and you take them out you have to fold them... so there, I have more clothes than you do. You have to do all the laundry. Hah! <o.O no
 
wat.
 
Someone thinks that statement is rational.
To be sure, if I made turnabout fair play it would stop being rational.
 
12:52 AM
> mixed str_replace ( mixed $search , mixed $replace , mixed $subject [, int &$count ] )
wat.
You seriously require a reference for what is just a single integer that isn't even processed, PHP? What the actual fuck?
Nevermind.
more alcohol
PHP inconsistencies ftw.
 
1:56 AM
conversely, less php more python
i really enjoy django so far, but until i have a compendium of work i don't see landing contract work with it
 
2:42 AM
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Q: Is it possible to x-forward windows apps to linux if windows PC running Xming?

user1632018I have been digging around looking for an answer to my question but have no been able to come up with anything. I know that xming server allows you to transparently run linux applications on windows through ssh window forwarding, but can it do the opposite and connect from the linux box to the ...

 
3:35 AM
hi!
ok, even Wubi is discontinued, any programs that can mount Wubi disks(.disk)?
 
3:52 AM
Hello.
 
4:14 AM
What in the world...? A downvote???
 
hi @NathanOsman !
 
4:39 AM
0
Q: how to remove packege for current user

Romani have a package and i have remove it for current user but for other users to access the application should remain. distrib: Ubuntu 12.10 Do you have any idea?

 
5:00 AM
Hi guys, just a friendly tip. When you see a comment from a moderator that is not helpful or is simply a thank you note, even if the comment is from a moderator, please flag it. I intentionally left several for the past 5 days under other thank you comments and no one flagged any of them. So if you see wrong comments from me just flag it. Am not going to kill you while you sleep and will thank you for correcting me (But later I WILL kill you while you sleep. Got my pew pew gun ready).
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6:08 AM
@FEichinger it's an out paramater
 
6:38 AM
hello
i have a question
any body here ?
 
@Qasim sure, but usually questions are better on meta or the main site
but don't ask to ask :)
@Qasim what's your question?
 
@Mahesh Got it!
 
hold on
i have same asnwer on two different questions is that ok ?
@JenniferWilson is it ?
 
7:06 AM
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Q: How to handle duplicate Answers

Luis AlvaradoReading How to handle duplicate answers that add nothing? I want to add, how should duplicate answers be dealt with (If they should be dealt with at all). The user case I want to focus on is: User has the same exact (Copy/Paste) answer on several questions that are relevant With this is mind...

It was discussed... ;)
 
ty
@Takkat please check is it ok now ?
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Q: Tips to extend battery life for laptops and notebooks

Niall MurphyIt is possible to greatly extend the usage time of a laptop or netbook running on battery by disabling various services and installing various packages. What tricks or tips do people have for getting an extra hour or two out of their batteries. Perhaps one tip per answer.

 
@Qasim less bold, otherwise fine to me.
 
what about now ?
 
:)
 
:)
 
 
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8:23 AM
@JenniferWilson I'm aware. PHP just has this habit of using the same param name for different purposes ... $count in particular is just awful in that regard.
 
 
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9:28 AM
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Q: Is there any new bug fixes available for Ubuntu 13.04

SiyanShivaI have faced some problems in Ubuntu 13.04. Display doesn't shows its integrity after boot. and some terminal issues etc.., Will any one have any idea about this..??

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Q: Ubuntu One post-installation bug

ProjjolI'd posted a question regarding this error message that i get after installing Ubuntu One. the question was closed and it was suggested that i file a bug report. I checked online and someone has already posted this bug on Launchpad's site. So, what's my next option? And is there anyway i can help...

 
 
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10:56 AM
I think we can migrate this to main and rephrase it as a "How to use Launchpad?" Q. Long story short: If the bug is already filed, there's a number of ways to follow, extend, support and otherwise handle Launchpad bugs. You will, however, have to wait for either a workaround or a bug fix for your problem to be solved. — FEichinger 42 secs ago
/cc @Oli @jrg @fossfreedom
 
11:16 AM
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11:40 AM
@FEichinger I think it should just get closed hard. If bugs are bugs and OT, then "I checked and the bug is filed" == "Good follow the bug-tracker"
 
@CallmeV Yeh, but this isn't "I have a bug." it's "How do I use Launchpad for my bug?"
 
The way I read it was "I have an Ubuntu-one bug".
 
@CallmeV No, that's the original Q they asked.
The meta Q is about "What do I do now, it's already filed?"
Which, in essence, is a "how to use launchpad" Q
 
that's supposed to be 2mbps
 
@FEichinger If that's the case I think it needs to be reworded almost completely to make it highly obvious and generic so it's the canonical "how do i subscribe to a bug mail" etc and not related to any particular bug directly. Maybe the answer uses the bug in the OPs question as an example, but you see where I'm going
 
11:46 AM
@CallmeV Yeh, but you also see where I'm going with it ;)
 
I do.
quick question. business case for site scraping engines for sale. a do-able business or not so much? (they're relatively quick to put together, but organizing the data once you get it is the tedious part) worthwhile model or not so much?
it would be like a "why you no have an api? here's an api" type of thing
 
I doubt that it's useful for the customer, so there's that.
 
Oli
@CallmeV The business case for selling something that creates "scraper sites"?
 
12:04 PM
ROTFL
It rains
 
12:21 PM
@jrg ^^
 
 
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1:21 PM
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Q: Cool 3D Ubuntu 13.04 wallpapers

Tony TafoshiI am looking for some cool 3D wallpapers. I am new to Ubuntu, so if anyone knows a couple of 3D wallpapers, please let me know. Thanks in advance.

 
^^^ - list question alert - close boats me thinks
 
getting attention from people
 
@Qasim - I'll leave it to the community to decide. However - I've made it a CW since it is clearly a list type Q
 
1:37 PM
I think the answer is simply Google it
 
"wallpaper ubuntu" -> About 9,390,000 results (0.28 seconds) but not a single "cool" one ;P
 
smileeeee
 
Now here's the ultimate read-stopper: "plz read datitle"
I tried hard but could not get further than "datitle"... ;)
 
he already got - 2
 
1:53 PM
They don't have a cool wallpaper.
 
My Link to answer google.com/…
 
@Qasim you forgot the decisive bit: google.com/…
 
is it the same link ?
sorry to disturb you again ....just want to ask why is that
 
why is what? --> Foss made the whole topic CW
 
ok now i got it
cw = community wiki
 
2:06 PM
yeah - no rep but badges still.
 
yes i was checking my repo no points
 
2:30 PM
hey anyone around?
qausim?
 
@Josh what's up?
 
hey man not much trying to figure this vmware setup ive been stuck on for the last week
for 13.04
 
I haven't used 13.04 much but I can try to help
What version of VMware? I use VMware a lot
 
word? yeah i would appriciate any info at this point being that my question didn't get anywhere yet and my windows 7 is screwed up so i cant use that for certain things i need at the moment
i got the new one
9
 
Workstation?
 
2:35 PM
heres the question thread i have with all the info
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Q: VMware 9 install not opening after extraction on 13.04

JoshA bit of a linux noob here, I'm trying to get VMware installed and I've finally gotten to the point where I can leave terminal and do the easy work lol, but now I'm stuck again. I followed these instructions and when I get to this part where it extracts the folder the installer doesn't open. Any...

and i think so
 
reads
 
never used it before not sure the differencr between workstation and player
 
Workstation is the paid version, Player is free
Workstation can create new virtual machines, Player can not
 
ahh i see
so can you run windows with just the player?
 
Then there's Server and ESXi
 
2:36 PM
yeah noticed those too
 
You can run Windows with any of them
 
ok
good to know
 
You can create new virtual machines by hand or using online tools and use Player
 
as long as i can do that efficiently
what would you mean by hand?
not sure what online tools your referring to either
pretty newby with this
not as much with computers but still a bit new to linux
 
VMware virtual machines are just text config files (.vmx files) with virtual disk files. You can edit the .vmx file witha text editor to create a virtual machine for VMware player. But it's a pain in the butt, which is why it's totally worth purchasing VMware Workstation to get a UI to manage the VM configs
 
2:39 PM
i see i see
yeah definitely not a coder ha
but yeah if you see in my question i posted alink to another question with a guy with basically my same problem
and i did all the steps he did and i still get no installer and his came up for some reason
 
So you're trying to install VMware under Ubuntu, is that right?
 
yeah
whether it be the player or anything just as long as i could run windows
but i just dont see why this wont work when i followed this guys steps and it didn't do the same thing
 
It looks like workstation
when you type vmware in a terminal and press tab,m are there any autocomplete results?
 
true i was under the assumption that it included player as well though
it says
 
it does
 
2:45 PM
ok
yeah it says before you can run vmware, several modules must be compiled and loaded into the running kernel
cancel/install
you click that and it doesnt open anything
 
Ah ha
what is you type in the terminal vmware-config (and autocomplete)
There should be something like vmware-config-workstation or something
 
i already pointed to the kernels to compile before now it just brings up install or cancel
all of that?
with (and autocomplete)"?
 
no, just vmware-config and then press the Tab key
 
not sure what autocomplete refers to exactly
ohhh ok
 
2:50 PM
nothigns happening
 
probably vmware-config.pl
@Josh hmmm. What does vmware followed by the Tab key show? (Might have to press Tab twice)
 
ok
got it
with vmware
here
vmware vmware-installer vmware-unity-helper
vmware-authd vmware-modconfig vmware-usbarbitrator
vmware-authdlauncher vmware-mount vmware-user-suid-wrapper
vmware-checkvm vmware-netcfg vmware-vdiskmanager
vmwarectrl vmware-networks vmware-vim-cmd
vmware-fuseUI vmware-ping vmware-vmblock-fuse
vmware-gksu vmware-rpctool vmware-vprobe
vmware-hgfsclient vmware-toolbox-cmd vmware-wssc-adminTool
 
does vmware-config.pl work?
If not, let's try vmware-modconfig
(We're looking to run a script which will compile necessary kernel modules)
 
ok .pl didnt work
now it says
icon name must be set
i see
so do we need to do that becaus it didn't properly complie them with the GUI?
 
Yeah for some reason it isn't doing it with the GUI...
Try: vmware-modconfig --console --install-all
 
2:56 PM
yeah just weird cuz that guy somehow got it
ok
 
I'm hoping it will show us an error message which the GUI isn't
 
true
ok ran for a sec last line says could not install all modules check log for details
 
What's the last few lines of the log say?
 
x’ defined but not used [-Wunused-function]
cc1: some warnings being treated as errors
make[2]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-exlEke/vmci-only/linux/driver.o] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs....
make[1]: *** [_module_/tmp/modconfig-exlEke/vmci-only] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic'
make: *** [vmci.ko] Error 2
make: Leaving directory `/tmp/modconfig-exlEke/vmci-only'
Unable to install all modules. See log for details.
 
Ubuntu 13.04 you said?
 
2:59 PM
yeah
64bit
 
what kernel? (uname -a)
 
Linux josh-HP-Pavilion-dv5-Notebook-PC 3.8.0-19-generic #30-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 1 16:35:23 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
 
thanks, lemme google for a sec
 
word thank you so much i appriciate it
 
> So as a temporary work-around, I reverted to the previous kernel (3.5) and am running Ubuntu 13.04 with the older kernel. If possible, I would like to see 13.04 + Kernel 3.8 + Workstation 8.
Do you know if it's Workstation 8 or Workstation 9?
 
3:02 PM
also maybe this could be of some help
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Three Tips To Get VMware Workstation 9 Going on Kernel 3.8.0
 
Oh, crap, I am 3 minutes late for a phone appointment. I have to call this customer, I'll be back when I am finished. Sorry about that!
bbs
 
oh ok sorry about that too lol
and no worries take your time
 
(on the phone but you want to look for a way to get the kernel modules to complile. probably a patch)
 
alright.. ill see what i can find out
thats saying 3.8rc4
so idk what the difference is or if there is one
I apply this patch but when I start vmware: Could not open /dev/vmmon.



3.8.0-9-generic #18-Ubuntu SMP Thu Feb 28 17:02:06 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
but then
Ok. I solved my problem:

vmware-modconfig --console --install-all --appname="VMware Player" --icon="vmware-player"

Everything work fine.
 
@Josh looks like he installed a patch
I can help with that after my call
 
3:17 PM
ok awesome
take your time not in a rush
 
cool
 
3:32 PM
brb gonna do a restart.. volume is being quirky
 
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3:43 PM
wow this chat room is really smartly designed @Josh Gitlin
saved the chat from before i restarted.. didn't think it would
maybe im just behind and its a normal feature but everything else is so intuitive
 
@Josh The chat wasn't "saved"
it's always there
 
ahh i see
i just figured it would of reset
 
This is not IRC :P
 
haha this is true
 
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Q: No Vox Populi Badge awarded

charlieI have expended my 40 votes today and I am unable to vote on anything else for today. But still I am not awarded the Vox Populi badge. Can someone please check?

 
3:54 PM
Man work getting in the way of my Stack Exchange chatting again! :-)
@Josh I know right? The SE team did a great job on the chat. Thanks to Balpha and Marc!
@Josh Did you make any progress?
 
haha
not really was just gonna wait for you to install the patch since i dont know anything about that and wasn't sure if there was anything complicated involved lol
yeah the chat is definetly intuitive and nice and sleek looking
im impressed
 
I edited your question and added information form what we spoke about in here
 
ok thanks alot
 
You'll need to approve my edits
 
2 kg of makup does not make you look good.
 
4:00 PM
ok
aint that the truth Amith
 
@Josh patching can indeed be complicated. I am reviewing the VMware Communities thread before advising you on your next steps
A possible workaround would be rebooting into an older kernel and trying to launch vmware again
 
alright
and how do i accept the edit?
 
Oli
I approved it.
 
Thanks @Oli!
@Oli let me know if @Josh and I should move to a separate room :-)
 
just clicked to accept it at the same exact time ha
 
4:04 PM
I should get +4 rep for that then ;-)
 
yeah that's be awesome
haha
you'll get rep either way for this
thanks for reminding me actually
 
haha, thanks, I'm not concerned about the rep :-)
 
i am new here
feel you
 
Hi, a quicky that is driving me bonkers... I just did apt-get install liblwp-online-perl for a piece of software... it didn't work, so, I want to uninstall (no point in having it around)... I did apt-get autoremove and tried a few other switches, but, I can't get it to remove all the packages it installed (it was LOADS)... anyone have any idea what I need to run?
 
@WilliamHilsum apt-get remove liblwp-online-perl doesn't work? What does aptitude say the problem is? Oh nevermind I see what you're asking, you want to remove the additional packaged which liblwp-online-perl installed
@WilliamHilsum is liblwp-online-perl still installed?
@WilliamHilsum If not, can you use aptitude to reinstall and then remove? That might clean up after itself better... not sure
BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN YOU BECOME ROOT!
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haha ok :-)
 
4:16 PM
yeah
wait whats that aptitude stuff about?
 
@Josh That's for William
6 mins ago, by William Hilsum
Hi, a quicky that is driving me bonkers... I just did apt-get install liblwp-online-perl for a piece of software... it didn't work, so, I want to uninstall (no point in having it around)... I did apt-get autoremove and tried a few other switches, but, I can't get it to remove all the packages it installed (it was LOADS)... anyone have any idea what I need to run?
 
oh ok figured that just makin sure
 
I just created a new room for the VMware conversation so we don't disturb everyone else here :-)
 
@JoshGitlin it can be easily... I created a snapshot (VM) after I installed it (annoyed with myself I didn't do it before!)
 
Is there a min number of points before I can ask a question on askubuntu?
 
4:22 PM
@Till No.
 
any space between -p1 < and the file name?
 
@Seth Any idea where I click to open a new question?
 
@Josh Join me in this room
 
4:23 PM
nm, i am just blind :D
@Seth Thank you!
 
np :)
 
4:35 PM
BBT
Good Night
 
@JoshGitlin Any idea? from last message... it is still installed
 
@WilliamHilsum sorry I went to another tab and decided you weren't important or something! j/k of course, I totally forgot to check. lemme see
 
hehe, no worries... I do the same!
 
@WilliamHilsum I would say try using aptitude to remove, it might clean up better? I am unsure...
 
I always thought autoremove would work, I'm a little confused why it isn't :(
but surely, aptitude won't do any different? (and, never had much luck with that app... I'll give it a look now)
 
4:40 PM
@WilliamHilsum ...I thought it would also, I am grasping a straws here :-/
@WilliamHilsum I sometimes have better luck with aptitude than apt-get, but sometimes vise-versa
 
j0h
Can William just use rm -rf to remove the files?
 
i've never had luck with aptitude! (or apt-get most of the time)... I just try never to install packages I don't need as I always find dependencys to be hell to remove
 
@j0h Does he need -f?
-r and -f are dangerous when misused or misunderstood.
 
found the package in aptitude... what option shall I try? (Never had much luck on this before!)
 
j0h
read the man pages then
William is trying to remove a library
 
4:47 PM
@WilliamHilsum give me context? :)
 
@WilliamHilsum use the - key
that Should mark it to be removed
@j0h no, then dpkg will be all confused. Also, he's not sure which files to remove
 
maybe use apt-cache show <package> and remove the packages individually.
 
j0h
dpkg can be repaired easily
infact, if he cant remove files properly, dpkg is probably already messed up
 
You're much more familiar with dpkg than I am :-)
I use it, it works, iif it doesn't, I come here. That's about the extent of my knowledge :-)
(Well, maybe I know a bit more than that, but...)
 
@jokerdino Want to remove all packages that were auto installed by the command "sudo apt-get install liblwp-online-perl" ... tried so many things, but, I just can't seem to remove the children, and, I can't work out why :(
 
5:03 PM
Depends: perl, liburi-perl, libwww-perl
 
Well, I know I need perl... I tried installing webmin on a server and then a custom webmin module for Nagios... that module needed liblwp, I installed it (which installed a ****load of extra packages... that nagios thing didn't work, so, I removed it... but now I have liblwp - probably safe to keep, but, I just don't see the point! I need to get better at understand packages and whatnot, but this sort of thing always throws me... :(
 
5:32 PM
@Oli - the business case for providing scrapers - e.g. making APIs for sites that don't necessarily provide them
 
5:42 PM
is anybody here on kde?
I have a doubt about what <super>+s does
because when I first login and I press it, it makes all the app desapear, and I don't know how to bring them back
(<super>+s doesn't work of course)
but the apps are still open because when I log out, I see them for a second while its closing it
 
i haven't made the jump yet, although it seems kde should have been the base for unity if it uses any kde-libs... just saying. anyway, moving on.
 
welcome the latest 13.04 user as of yesterday :)
 
5:57 PM
welcome
 
hey @jokerdino long time no speak how you been?
 
I been good. You?
 
@jokerdino should this uptsart tag askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/uptsart be upstart
 
I've been good too
 
@jokerdino sorry Hello
 
6:09 PM
@jrg any problems with 13.04 and Ruby?
 
jrg
@mojo706 i recompile all of mine every few weeks
 
so no problems?
 
jrg
nope.
anything with 1.8.7 is well, blech.
but 1.9.3+ is golden.
@Oli Can you get me a more descriptive job outline not via chat.SE? I know a guy whos looking.
 
ok thanks. point taken
 
jrg
basically, i run 13.04 on almost anything except for production now. so it works.
production is still 12.04, but that's just because i'm lazy and haven't upgraded anything.
 
6:21 PM
my 12.04 Laptop was stolen so I had to move forward lol I was going to wait till 2014 to upgrade from 12.04 but alas fate
I'm beginning afresh in everything but if I get stuck I can always ask on ask
 
@mojo706!!! looong time no see :)
 
hey @Takkat good to be back!
 
where have you been all the time?
<-- always likes it when people come back here
 
jrg
oh man. :(
 
@ school busy semester too much programming units had to concentrate and thanks for the welcome back
 
6:26 PM
being busy with coding is a good excuse :)
 
very good one lol
 
6:36 PM
o/ @jrg
 
jrg
yo!
 
@WilliamHilsum sorry I had to go AFK, did you get the problem resolved?
 
@JoshGitlin Nope, but, going home in 5 minutes :( exhausted... big problem at the moment is a site to site vpn that won't establish... won't bore you all with the details :(
If I see any employee from Sonicwall, I will not be responsible for my actions....
 
awww that sucks. OK, well if you'd like more help tomorrow I'll see what I can do!
 
jrg
@WilliamHilsum ew, sonicwall.
 
6:41 PM
@JoshGitlin Thanks
 
jrg
they work (most of the time), but when they don't... good luck :(
 
@jrg hehe... got in to a big fight with them on Twitter and email a while ago, they kept saying I have an invalid network and I kept saying their firmware was faulty...
then I showed them RFC3021 and said my network is not invalid... they said they would get back to me shortly... almost 6 months later, haven't heard anything!
 
7:17 PM
@WilliamHilsum I had to maintain a site to site vpn product at one point where the firmware didn't like specific valid MTU sizes. It's worth checking (tune down the MTU and see if it resolves)
also, i don't blame them for not supporting /31 bitmasks. they should have just said that.
 
8:00 PM
@jrg Ah. Great. Thanks man :)
Oh wait...
Errg.
Foss duped it. IT IS NOT A DUPE!! Haven't we been over this?
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@RolandiXor around?
 
8:29 PM
@CallmeV hehe, I agree, it isn't exactly bog standard - the problem was the arguments with them about it being valid or not and them getting really rude saying my network is invalid... but, it did work via DHCP - it just doesn't allow you to insert statically (which I find with a lot of equipment...) - and I'll look at MTU but at the moment, the problem is simpler... the boxes just aren't talking to each other (routing issue I believe)
 
it's an invalid deployment lets them blame someone else.
we don't support it requires owning the problem. i'ld just own it and call it a day.
 
@CallmeV Yeah - I wouldn't mind if they did - (which they did in the end)... Many things don't... I just hate that after spending so much money, they blame me!
 
9:00 PM
@Seth yo
I was afk
 
Oli
9:40 PM
There is a legal hurdle there. Copyright and many boilerplate terms-of-service completely forbid automated polling. If you're building it for yourself, that's probably not going to raise any eyebrows but if you're flogging access to it, the original content owner might start to care.

But assuming it's legal and with permission - that does rather depend on the API. I can't think of any API that I would pay anything than a few pennies for.
@jrg Is your profile email accurate? I'll send a slightly embellished description there.
 
@Mahesh No clue wrt. that app website.
also, I don't check twitter that often, if you need to reach me this is a better place.
 
9:55 PM
@Trufa intresting, I use kubuntu so i'll experment and see, i'll report back once I find out.
 
10:06 PM
@RolandiXor Can you reopen this please? askubuntu.com/posts/260510/revisions
(I just got back myself)
 
Oli
@Seth Done
 
@seth I voted for it too :)
 
Thanks guys :)
That question has an interesting history..
 
10:23 PM
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Q: Is there a new font?

Ian CarrollI've noticed the site looks really different. Is this a new font, or am I crazy? It looks really nice, IMO. (more text to pass quality filter)

 
@Seth I went afk as you can tell... again :P
brb moving computer shortly
 
:)
See you later.
 
@Oli fair points all around
 
10:41 PM
Hm, intresting, were are not using ubuntu font.
Oh, except he has a screen with the Ubuntu font! They are changing it it seems.
 
:S
 
Back
Hi all
 
11:44 PM
O_O
 
I have issues with the tag
6
 
Agreed.
Go ahead and retag them. (if you want)
 
there we go
openELEC?
that doesn't run from within ubuntu, that is a different linux distribution right?
 

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