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Q: Can't figure out how to cite a website properly using BibDesk

Theo WindebankI have tried using the Website category dropdown and filling in the fields and also tried using the web import feature (which doesn't even have a category for the url?). When I try to display the bibliography in Lyx it shows up as a blank reference. I would like to cite it in Harvard format. I'm...

 
 
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10:09 AM
Oh my, I got a downvote! :)
Dear downvoter, care to explain why my answer deserves your criticism? :)Paulo Cereda 36 secs ago
 
@PauloCereda I linked to this question few minutes ago ;-) tex.stackexchange.com/questions/100663/…
 
@MarcoDaniel :)
 
10:27 AM
@lockstep: Do you understand the issue of the OP. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/77997/…
 
@MarcoDaniel up or down?
 
@DavidCarlisle It's equal ;-) -- only 9 unanswered questions for the tag bibtex ;-)
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Q: LaTeXila bibliography

ThanosI am a new user in Ubuntu and I have installed 12.10. I am trying to find tutorials on how to use LaTeX (LaTeXila) but unfortunately I can find almost nothing. Does anyone know how to create a .bib file in LaTeXila? On Windows I used to create a .bib file at the end of the document by inserting t...

 
10:47 AM
@NicolaTalbot: I set all my virtual machines: :)
 
 
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11:55 AM
huhu
 
12:08 PM
@PauloCereda :-)
I think I'm almost up and running now :-)
 
 
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2:05 PM
Ok so the birthday iPad is now in need of a TeX app. From the reviews, it looks like TeXWriter is better than TeXpad. Comments, iPad users?
 
@AlanMunn Oh, did the birthday really bring an iPad?
 
@egreg Yes. I'm playing with it now. (Although not typing in chat with it.)
 
@AlanMunn Oh I don't have TeX in my iPad. :(
Install games now. :)
I play during homilies. /ducks
 
@PauloCereda This will make the gift giver quite unhappy.
 
@AlanMunn Oh! Plan B, hold on. :)
 
2:24 PM
Hi all. Can someone remind me of the name of the Tikz package for drawing simple things like 'four nodes in a circle'. IFIRC, it's by Claudio Fiandrino
 
@Brent.Longborough it's smartdiagram
 
@StefanKottwitz Ah! Hi, Stefan, vielen dank.
 
2:37 PM
ooh I answered an arara answer! Stop the press!
 
@PauloCereda ohh I answered a Tikz question! Without begin{tikzpicture}
 
@Brent.Longborough Oh my! :)
 
@PauloCereda Oh dear! To paraphrase the Monopoly game, "Go to H**l. Go directly to H**l. Do not pass Go. Do not collect £200"
@PauloCereda Yay! a complete solution in just five lines of LaTeX, including \documentclass, \begin{document}, and \end{document}. I feel like a cheat.
 
2:53 PM
@Brent.Longborough I added a picture.
 
@egreg Thank you. I've put a citation in a comment...
@egreg BTW, how's Italy these days? Getting ready to elect an antipope; the B-person riding the democratic(?) wave; all kinds of shock and awe...
 
@Brent.Longborough We're waiting for a couple of clowns to ruin the country.
 
@egreg What sort of clowns? Pagliacci, or buffoni?
 
@Brent.Longborough Both apply to the guys I have in mind.
 
@egreg Is the system in Italy first-past-the-post, or proportional representation?
@egreg Do the voters have their share of the blame? (Not you, of course :-P)
 
3:02 PM
@PauloCereda: In my deleted comment to this arara question I had the same idea. Egred pointed out that this solution unfortunately doesn't handle all compilation rules of the main file. This is the reason for the new rule. -- Sorry
 
@Brent.Longborough It's a mess, actually. It's proportional with "majority bonus". The problem is that the majority bonus is computed on the whole nation for the "camera dei deputati", but region by region for the "senato". The new clown didn't get any bonus, the old one did in some highly populated regions, so there's no possible majority coalition possible in the "senato", while the "partito democratico" has the majority in the "camera".
Since in our system both houses have the same powers, we have a problem.
 
@MarcoDaniel Why sorry? It's a great rule. :)
 
@PauloCereda Thanks. Rules can be expanded ;-)
 
@egreg Yes, I'm not convinced that proportional is at all a good thing. With FPTP, "your" side can "lose unfairly", but at least you usually get a strong government.
@egreg BTW, Which one is the "new clown", Grillo?
 
@Brent.Longborough I agree. This system was devised by the old clown some years ago, because he knew he was going to lose the elections, but still had majority in some regions and the law was just meant to make things difficult for the other side. OTOH, if a side has a strong voting majority (which happened at the subsequent elections), it would get a very large majority in the Parliament.
@Brent.Longborough Right.
 
3:11 PM
@egreg But he's not even eligible to sit, is he, because he's an ex-criminal?
@egreg Hmm, here in the UK we stitch up the elections by altering the constituency boundaries.
 
@Brent.Longborough This is according to the rules of his movement. He was convicted of "involuntary homicide" some years ago, but the law doesn't prohibit elections for this kind of crimes.
 
@egreg OK. We get rather superficial reporting over here.
 
3:27 PM
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Q: Code in \lstlisting breaks document (compile error)

Benny NeugebauerI want to show a JSON object in my document. If I do the following, it works: \begin{lstlisting} { "id": "5", "key": "discardedCard" } \end{lstlisting} But if I extend the code to the following, then there are only errors when compiling the document: \begin{lstlisting} { "id": "5", "k...

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4:17 PM
Yay, @JosephWright is here! :)
 
@PauloCereda Hello
 
@JosephWright How's your health going?
 
@egreg 'flu cleared up, just a cough remains
 
@JosephWright Good news! Be careful!
 
5:09 PM
@PauloCereda did you get it right though?
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm not sure. :) I just wrote the software, I don't know if it works. :)
 
Does anyone know where I can get a ConText compiler that I can use in WinEdt?
 
@DavidCarlisle @egreg You are actually serious about this TikZ/pgfplots gold badge thing right? Ah our peaceful rep point days gone..... Thancked be fortune, it hath been otherwise.... Twenty tymes better; but ons in speciall...
 
@percusse Maybe I can reduce the expected time from three years to two if I start studying the manual. ;-)
@percusse For now I'm chasing the gold badge: I can't stand @DavidCarlisle being the only one owning it.
 
@egreg Reading the manual is OK, my fear is that you'll start reading the code and answer all questions here.
 
5:22 PM
@egreg or \tracingall :)
 
@egreg no stay firm, don't succumb to pressure:-)
 
@PauloCereda With a moderately complicated TikZ picture, \tracingall risks to fill my hard disk.
 
@egreg Now you'll have a new Macbook. :) Problem solved. :)
 
@PauloCereda Just a 512 GiB SSD, not so much. ;-)
 
@egreg Wow.
 
5:25 PM
@DavidCarlisle Three answers to go. :)
 
A zip bomb, also known as a Zip of Death or decompression bomb, is a malicious archive file designed to crash or render useless the program or system reading it. It is often employed to disable antivirus software to create an opening for more traditional viruses. Rather than hijacking the normal operation of the program, a zip bomb allows the program to work as intended, but the archive is carefully crafted so that unpacking it (e.g. by a virus scanner in order to scan for viruses) requires inordinate amounts of time, disk space or memory. Details and use A zip bomb is usually a small ...
 
@percusse ooh dirty!
 
@egreg just find some old tables questions you haven't answered make an answer get a revival badge and a gold table badge at same time:-)
 
@PauloCereda 400kB zip file when extracted becomes 3-4 petabytes :)
might be \tracingall bomb too...
 
@percusse With a taste of xii.tex...
 
5:27 PM
@PauloCereda on the 2^{64}th day of christmas....
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@DavidCarlisle <3
 
hello :)
 
@DominicMichaelis 'ello
 
mh i am thinking about to post the question if it is possible to draw homer simpson with TikZ
 
@DominicMichaelis It's possible, just not very convenient.
 
5:38 PM
@DominicMichaelis Inkscape is your friend. Check @PauloCereda's drawings.
 
I want to learn TikZ so i thought about doing something difficult to learn all the tricks
maybe if i ask it at reference request it will be fine
 
@DominicMichaelis TikZ really isn't the right tool for a drawing of Homer, I think.
 
@DominicMichaelis As @TorbjørnT. says, TikZ is good for drawings with structure, known coordinates, well-defined shapes, curves etc. Otherwise you'll be hacking, tweaking forever to get one hair right via fine-tuned curves etc.
 
mh ok do you have an idea what is a good project to learn tikz
 
@DominicMichaelis Three tutorials in the manual gives you a head start for most of the stuff needed. The rest is up to your curiosity.
 
5:46 PM
@DominicMichaelis There used to be a Simpsons font on CTAN, but I believe it's been withdrawn for copyright reasons.
 
\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{tikz}
\usepackage{xcolor}

\definecolor{cffff00}{RGB}{255,255,0}
\definecolor{cffffff}{RGB}{255,255,255}
\definecolor{cdeaa87}{RGB}{222,170,135}

\begin{document}

\begin{tikzpicture}[y=0.80pt, x=0.8pt,yscale=-1, inner sep=0pt, outer sep=0pt]
  \path[draw=black,fill=cffff00,line join=miter,line cap=butt,line width=0.800pt]
    (188.8475,629.4108) .. controls (200.5805,592.8140) and (210.0709,548.3682) ..
    (220.1359,505.9336) .. controls (196.5155,503.2551) and (187.9365,470.5939) ..
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Have fun.
 
oh that was fast and its great
thanks a lot
how did you make it ?
 
6:02 PM
@DominicMichaelis I guess code.google.com/p/inkscape2tikz (and Inkscape, of course)
 
6:34 PM
@egreg @DominicMichaelis What he said. Moreover, the font was raster-only.
 
@DominicMichaelis I'd say (a) do something that's useful for you and (b) have a browse around Stefan Kottwitz' Tikz examples collection
 
 
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7:51 PM
That's it! Nothing works in Python 3, so I'm going back to Ruby
 
leo
hi tere
 
HI Leo. (Typed on my new iPad. :) )
 
leo
@AlanMunn cool!
 
It's taken a bit of getting used to, especially the gestures to switch between apps, but It's pretty cool.
 
leo
@AlanMunn have you tested the Apps for TeX? There where two good ones TeXPad and TeXWriter
 
7:59 PM
@AlanMunn Did you notice you can "double click" on the home button?
 
The keyboard needs arrow keys, though,IMO
 
leo
I'll buy some Wi-Fi keyboard
I find hard to select text some times
 
@topskip no I hadn't. That's helpful. (It doesn't seem like I can reply to messages easily in chat.)
 
leo
@topskip to see active apps :-)
 
@leo not the active apps. Most of them are probably killed by the system due to RAM constraints.
 
leo
8:02 PM
@AlanMunn yes. The mobile site do not allow that, nor notifications
 
@leo I haven't tried the existing tex apps, do you have any suggestions?
 
It's a "least recently used" list.
 
leo
@topskip In mine, the active Apps are always there. I have to kill some manually
perhaps because is an old iPad
 
It seems like TeXwriter gets better reviews than TeXpad.
 
@leo No. The system decides if an app stays in memory or if it is revoked. It seems to be a list of "active apps", but this is not visible to the user.
 
8:06 PM
I also wouldn't mind suggestions for an ssh client.
 
Same on Mac OS X, but with lots of RAM you hardly ever see an app being thrown out of the memory by the OS (not the same as paging!)
 
leo
@topskip Oh I see
@AlanMunn Me neither :-). I'm waiting for the keyboard. It seems difficult to type with the keyboard of the iPad. And it seems that there many things still to do
the are some discussions
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Q: Is there a (La)TeX distribution running on iPad?

xportIs there a (La)TeX distribution running on iPad?

@Andrew Stacey knows about this stuff
 
I think I saw a chicken!
 
@leo I think most people recognize the limitations of the keyboard, but mainly need to have the ability to do small things or edit existing documents. Personally I might just go with the Dropbox+compile on server route which might work just as well for me.
 
leo
@AlanMunn I'll probably do so as well
 
8:17 PM
One of the nice things about the iPad is that it is way lighter than a Mac even the air. So I have no problem with the keyboard really. Compared to my smart phone the iPad keyboard is huge,
 
leo
by the way:
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Q: Autocompile LaTeX doc when updated in Windows (via dropbox, in this case)

ajoGoal: I'd like to be able to have a script running on my Windows computer that autogenerates the PDF of my LaTeX doc whenever the main .tex doc gets updated. Use case is I am editing the .tex file via an iPad, and I want my main computer to compile the pdf so that I can open it in my Dropbox ap...

 
Evening!
 
leo
@tohecz hello! :-)
 
Right. That's trivial to do on a Mac. But I might be inclined to just run from the command line when I need to compile. Especially with arara it's really easy.
 
@AlanMunn isn't the ipad keyboard changeable? on my android tablet I have more keyboards loaded than I know what to do with (stock android one, samsung put one one, I got a programmers keyboard with ctrl and esc so I could use emacs,...)
 
leo
8:27 PM
may I ask something?
 
@leo This is already a question :))
 
leo
@topskip lol
 
@leo I think you should just go ahead.
 
leo
and I asked it without ask
Have you seen:
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Q: Questions on designing a dynamic database (kind of) of exercises

leoAlmost all packages to handle exercises allow us to attach/retrieve meta-data to/from each exercise. Some things one might want when handling exercises are: Filter exercises according to their meta-data. Select random exercises from an external file. Have dynamic data associated to each exerci...

 
@davidcarlisle Probably. I've only had the thing for a day.
 
8:32 PM
@AlanMunn ah did I see mention of birthdays not so long ago:-)
 
@leo Yes (now). A loooong question.
 
Exactly. :)
 
@leo you could offer a bounty to get more attention
 
leo
I've thinking in use datatool to handle the dynamic fields and make the queries to databases. To handle the filtering of questions. I must do something to get list of IDs whenever a query to the database is done. The randomization must be in the lists. Finally just use exsheets to print the right questions
@topskip can answers to CW questions be awarded with bounties?
 
@leo good question. Don't know - perhaps you should remove the CW from the question?
 
leo
8:42 PM
@topskip Let me ask
@JosephWright can this be done:
3 mins ago, by leo
@topskip can answers to CW questions be awarded with bounties?
 
@leo you can ask a mod to remove the CW. If the mod agrees, he will remove it.
If you need some to save reputation, I'll offer 100 rep for the question...
 
leo
@topskip that's because I ask to Joseph. If the answer is no then I'll as to remove the CW
 
@leo you could also "flag" the question and ask it there - then several mods have the chance to un-cw it
 
leo
@topskip no, no, that's not the case. I made it CW because I thought that there will be various possible approach, perhaps all of them useful. Thats very kind of your part :-)
@topskip If you offer 100 can I add 400?
 
@leo yes. Just ping me here in the chat once the question is ready for a bounty
 
leo
8:58 PM
@topskip It seems that there can only be an active bounty per question at any given time
 
@leo let's wait for the mods, and then you can ping me
I have too many rep points anyway
 
leo
And just at the and of that FAQ: "As an additional bonus, bounty awards are immune to the daily reputation cap and community wiki mode. "
 
@leo Yes
 
leo
So I must just wait
:-)
 
 
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10:07 PM
@egreg why are you answering questions and I answering ones when we need to do it the other way round? :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I wanted to avoid another bad usage of \sin^{-1} for the arcsine.
 
@egreg ah cleaning up the world's notational oddities more important than getting a badge. Very honourable:-)
@egreg actually sin^{-1} for the inverse sort of makes sense it is \sin^2 x for (\sin x)^2 that is odd
 
@DavidCarlisle This might be; but \sin^{2} is traditional and handy, as this expression is used quite frequently and in this form less parentheses are required.
 
@egreg all true but still it's that notation that is peculiar to trig functions whereas f^{-1} being f inverse is a generally used notation (which I agree is best to avoid on trig functions)
@egreg meanwhile one day I really should do a proper tabular implementation that distributes width to spanned columns in some more sensible way....
 
leo
:-O
cool
 
10:18 PM
@DavidCarlisle That's always a problem with \span; I wish Knuth had decided to distribute the excess in the spanned columns, maybe proportionally to their natural width. Probably too hard to implement.
 
leo
10:30 PM
see you later
 
@egreg yes trouble is whenever I think about it (off and on over last 20 years or so) always come to the conclusion that you have to abandon \halign and just position a stack of boxes by hand, but that seems like a lot of work, perhaps an extended tex will extend halign and save that effort:(
 
@DavidCarlisle That's what I did in DocScape. Though this was not out of knowing, but out of not knowing \halign.
At least now it's easy to get rowspans and colspans (and some other things) right ;-)
 
@StephanLehmke yes but there you haven't got the problem of gazillions of users and dozens of package authors complaining that you just made a table model that is incompatible with everything:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Totally correct. Still I'm thinking earnestly about publishing it as a LaTeX package. We need some other "can do everything at once" table backage besides tabu ;-)
 
@StephanLehmke ooh that would be interesting, perhaps then you'd get a gold badge before @egreg
 
10:36 PM
I'd use some HTML-like syntax (like I'm doing in DocScape) to keep people from confusing it with TeX tables.
Has got some cool features (like "squeeze cell contents slightly to avoid a line break" or a layered table head model).
 
meanwhile I just lost the tick on that tables question to an accepted answer suggesting to use one of my packages:(
 
@DavidCarlisle Rest assured, that's just a different kind of rep :-)
The "OMG, are you THE David Carlisle????" type.
 
Damn, I would never imagine how much Stuff I have here in Paris
 
11:03 PM
@tohecz It happens every time you leave a house: you always have much more things than you expected.
 
@egreg It's not so bad in the end, considering weight and volume. I'll leave to boxes (smaller than banana boxes) of things in Paris: one with a blanket and Stuff, and another one with all the other Stuff :D And it seems to me that I confortably fit in the 23kg limit :)
and btw, I should celebrate a triumph: I have accomodation for the next stay :)
 
@tohecz Will you return to Paris? When?
 
@egreg on September
I have it half'n'half for 3 years
 
11:28 PM
Hey guys, I had a quick question
For some reason, in my document, some paragraphs are being indented while others have lines between them. What could be the problem?
 
@gekkostate What lines?
 
@percusse Sorry, when I say "lines" I mean there is space between them instead of just indenting the next paragraph and not having a space between them.
 
@gekkostate Are you perhaps using \\ to terminate lines?
 
@egreg That's what I thought also but that is not the case
 
@gekkostate Did you set \parskip?
 
11:38 PM
@gekostate and they aren't the ones after just section headings?
 
no I haven't set
\parskip
and they aren't after section headings
 
@gekkostate A cause for this might be using \begin{figure}[H]
 
The document has nothing but \chapter
I have set a different .tex for different chapters
so the beginning of the document is just \chapter
The weird thing is that within the same document, some paragraphs do this and some don't.
 
@gekkostate Do you have some page style commands or some skip commands inside the tables etc. ? something should be interferring. So better start commenting out the middle parts until you can replicate it. Then you can narrow down the possibilities.
 
The only commands that I have within the document are \chapter, \section, \subsection
and what would you recommend if I wanted to quote something inline?
 
11:45 PM
If you have a lot of quotes then the csquotes package can handle both inline and block I quotes in a smart fashion.
 
@AlanMunn so I can do \usepackage[csquotes]?
 
\usepackage{csquotes} but first I would read the documentation to see if it does what you want or is more than you need.
 
@AlanMunn okay, thanks. Would you happen to know what may be causing the other issue?
 
No, as @percusse says you may need to start moving the \end{document} around to see if you can figure out what is the trigger for it.
 
Basically, in one subsection, it is indenting and skipping a line and that's only in one subsection the ones before and after it don't have this problem
 
11:57 PM
@percusse I just noticed you've abandoned the ß!
@gekkostate that's a good start. Are there any special environments in that subsection?
 

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