The Bridge

He said Playstation 4!

Buffering and lagging like mad here.

lol, now the stream is going back and forth jumping around any and all mentions of "Playstation 4"

Hehe, genesis

and it dropped I think...

11:10 PM

live.arstechnica.com/sonys-2013-playstation-meeting-liveblog

more bullshit inbound

Hours? Really?

How long is this conference supposed to be?

Suddenly 0 viewers

user30

I can't load ustream, or the playstation website

I forgot who designed Marble Madness

And why can't ustream or twitch use airplay?

11:11 PM

I have the stream back now but without sound

on twitch

There goes sound

user30

I do have flashplayer.

user30

ugh.

Twitch is better than the ustream

> Marble Madness creator, former president of Universal Interactive Studios, lead system architect behind Sony PlayStation 4, Mark Cerny

Please, for the love of... you guys had better not be announcing a console that's "upgradable"

11:13 PM

@Powerlord Guh

It just sounded to me like that's where he's going

@Powerlord Actually he's probably about to say that the PS4 doesn't have any input other than the internet!!

@badp Even worse

@badp twitch

Yesterday: cartridges, cds, dvds

TOMORROW: THE INTERNETS

11:14 PM

Incoming Sega lawsuit over "Blast Processing"

This host for the sony conference looks high.

I don't know why I expected this to be anything more than marketing speak

One of those slides certainly did sound like an online-only system

@Powerlord This would make me sadface

@FAE you know, it's not like gamers will be watching

11:16 PM

SEE? THERE'S A CLOUD. ONLINE-ONLY HALF LIFE 3 CONFIRMED, PS4 EXCLUSIVE

You crafted the system specs in 2008? That's... disturbing.

"supercharged pc architecture" lol "x86 architecture" rofl " enhanced pc gpu" omfg " proudly 8 GB ram" zomg!! "UNSPECIFIED SIZE HARD DRIVE"

user30

@badp lol

OH WOW GUYS X86

The system memory is a HUMAN BRAIN

11:16 PM

8GB RAM

Only 8 gigs of RAM?

Unfortunately, unified, so the GPU shares it

YES! IT WAS TRUE! TOUCHPAD ON A CONTROLLER

Controller fail.

@BenBrocka Confirmed stupid touchpad on Dualshock 4

11:17 PM

or at least I'm assuming that's what unified is

PS4 is dooooooooooomed

user30

oh my what is that

a Share button

user30

I have a several sheets here to do. hmm. graphs/dp, group theory and analysis. I get the feeling that doing those will be a more productive use of two hours.

seriously?

11:17 PM

Share button? wtf?

lol, "light bar"

user30

I think your streams are all ahead of mine

How the hell is a blue bar better than a light over the number 1, 2, 3, or 4? O_o

yes! It's a glorified wii controller

Hmm, I must be slightly behind.

11:18 PM

this is going in the worst possible way

Was UE4 previously announced?

@Powerlord yeah

"extraordinarily easy conversion path from the PC platform"

@FAE Ah, OK, I haven't been keeping up with it.

PS4 AS STEAM BOX CONFIRMED

11:19 PM

@badp Hopefully that works in the other direction.

user30

haha

user30

What if Gabe suddenly appears.

@ThomasMcDonald I'm watching IGN's restream, so I know I'm behind

Why do I get the feeling that this is going to be just as expensive as the PS3 was?

lol my stream hung on the items falling

11:20 PM

@Powerlord I heard they were going cheaper.

OMFG PS4 TECHNOLOGY FROM 2007 like Cuda

Dammit stream, stop hanging

"I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A SMALL ADDITION TO THE TEAM." EXPLOSIONS

I see nothing next gen about this game.

user30

When are they announcing GTA V for this?

11:21 PM

Sorry to interject, does anybody know of a decent website for localized salary comparison?

@Fluttershy You forget the PS3 is several generations behind

@Fluttershy Me neither

I've Googled, but I don't know how accurate any of it is.

@Fluttershy I'm less than impressed.

This looks like a game I could play on my 3DS... It's really kinda sad.

11:22 PM

@fbueckert No idea.

Hell, I've seen PS3 games with better facial animation.

@Powerlord I guess we're supposed to be impressed by all the little bits he's made out of?

user30

look at dem physics

HELL, TF2 has better facial animation, and that's a TF2 feature that hasn't been touched since it launched in 2007.

This twitch stream is terrible. o_O

11:23 PM

@fbueckert the only one I'm aware of is indeed

@Coronus Indeed.com?

Wow, I'm farther behind now as it stopped showing for a few secs and then resumed exactly where it left off.

indeed.com/salary

That's a job search board; where's the salary comparison?

GODDAMMIT PS4 DON'T PLAY THE GMAIL IM SOUND

11:24 PM

@badp haha

PS Vita's already doing that, PS4! You fail.

I really don't like it when the stream freezes on this guy's creepy face.

OrigamiRobot

Now I have 27 Golden Keys

@Fluttershy DS did that in 2004.

If you meant the power thing

user30

Do you really need a chip to handle uploads and downloads?

11:24 PM

STREAMING GAMES (as in, the streaming of the game code)

omfg

Someone should send me a picture of this dude. Isn't he supposed to look like me?

@fbueckert That was a different guy.

Wow, background updating? Like the Xbox 360 had at launch?

WoW did that in... 2003?

@fbueckert Different guy now

11:25 PM

Background downloading. What a concept!

@FAE Oh.

Boo.

@badp Closer to 2006-07 before they implemented that.

This UI is... not amazing.

Recording

Oh, okay, that sharing thing is actually kinda nice

11:26 PM

... creepy.

user30

livestreaming, kinda cool

...based on "real world friends" what

Taking over someone's game?

Sharing videos of gameplay is something that could do being easier

PS4 REAL ID WOOOHOOO

I DON'T CARE ABOUT THE PS4 ANYMORE TELL ME THE NEW PS3 PRICE

user30

11:26 PM

real world fwweeend

@FAE I'm sure you're amazed by the possibilities

@badp Just what we needed!!!!1

"I'd like to hijack your play session. You okay with that?"

@Powerlord Ain't that true Ross?

"get to know you" O_o

That is an obnoxious friend activity feed

11:28 PM

@FAE in a few minutes we'll find out PS4 will be the premiere way to cyber

user30

eh

wat

This is sounding REALLY creepy

user30

content preloaded and ready to go based on personalisation

...creepy

@Powerlord Yeeeeeah...

user30

11:28 PM

download cap wooo

I don't want my console downloading stuff without my consent...

2 mins ago, by Fluttershy

... creepy.

YOU'RE TOO LATE

Also like, what if I have a bandwidth restriction?

Incoming privacy lawsuits!

@Fluttershy It bears repeating.

11:29 PM

So basically if the console things I'll buy a game, it'll start just... downloading it?

@Coronus Indeed. o_O

@badp That's what it sounds like...

I can see the headlines now, "The PS4. Your new ex."

I hope we can like, turn these options off. If they're even options.

user30

Yes. I assume it'll just load the bare minimum to load the start of the game.

Honestly the part where «you can see when your friend is "in trouble"» is already a thing in OnLive and people don't honestly think too much of it

11:30 PM

@badp You don't know what you like. We know what you like. We've already bought it for you. Play it. Plaaaaay it.

user30

now lets talk about cloud more

Sometimes you get 1 or 2 viewers

user30

cloud cloud cloud cloud cloud

"PS4, stop downloading that game I haven't bought!" I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave.

@ThomasMcDonald Have you noticed the complete lack of talk about physical mediums?

11:31 PM

This new guy is considerably less creepy.

@badp maybe they assume that we assume it'll still be on disks

@badp They showed a human brain, didn't they?... I'm just sayin...

@Coronus :D

While this all pretty blegh so far, none of these speakers so far are as bad and unnatural at speaking as Reggie Fils-Aime.

So... there's that I guess.

@Fluttershy Honestly, it would be kind of rad if a dialogue comes up and said "Oh hey, I thought you'd like Borderlands 2. We've already downloaded it and we've already got your credit card data. Just press X to pay $50 now and play this instant, or press O to delete the preloaded data."

11:32 PM

Creepy

PSN is the slowest download service on the web, why would we believe it'll suddenly be faster?

"With Gaikai you'll be instantly able to experience anything that you want"

@badp If by "rad" you mean "creepy and intrusive as all hell"

PS4 CYBER SEX SUPPORT CONFIRMED

user30

ps4 updating will be useful while it's not turned on

11:32 PM

@Powerlord Because it downloads while you sleep.

user30

given it takes hours to update the ps3

@ThomasMcDonald PS3 supports it. If you pay them a monthly fee for PS Plus

What if I don't necessarily want to advertise to my aunt that I've got X amount of trophies?

user30

@Powerlord Given how often I turn my ps3 on, I get the feeling that would be a waste of money

@Fluttershy I dunno... profiling is a thing that exists, has existed and will continue existing. Steam itself recommends games based on what STOP WITH THOSE IM SOUNDS PS4

11:33 PM

But not twitch? That doesn't make sense.

looks in confusion at the GMail tab where no IM is happening

@badp Steam recommends games?

@badp Broadcast Yourself Realtime!!!

@Powerlord Yes

user30

@badp I'm surprised Steam doesn't more aggressively recommend stuff

11:34 PM

"You can ask your friend on the internet to help"

@badp Okay, so it's not just me.

I know it mentions in the blotter what your friends play, but I don't recall it actually recommending games to me.

I thought it might have been Pidgin.

@Powerlord It's actually linked in the homepage of steampowered.com IIRC

user30

http://store.steampowered.com/recommended/

11:35 PM

I just can't help but think that there's potential for people to hack into your games now. >_>

@FAE Stream trading is also a thing that exists today. It's not necessarily doomed to fail...

@badp I mean with the ability for people to take over your gameplay.

@FAE Wouldn't you need to accept that?

@badp One hopes.

@badp Yeah, and security is unbeatable on PSN...

11:37 PM

so basically the game is 1080p but... developers must make sure that everything is readable and distinguishable on the Vita screen too

But I don't have a vita, and don't want one either.

which means that 1080p will never be used for anything other than eye candy

So does this mean that the PS4's graphical capabilities will be limited by what the Vita can handle...?

@badp Basically, they're replicating the Wii U's remote play thing

I'm a little confused as to how that works.

11:37 PM

@MBraedley I actually almost bought one last weekend.

user30

That game looks more interesting than the video for it did

@FAE I hope it's just video streaming

@FAE Reggie is awesome. He's a total rebel bad ass.

Sound is gone, but this is just hilarious

...sigh... There goes my stream.

11:38 PM

This presentation is so bad.

user30

> "To make remote play on the PS4 and Vita feel good... we've integrated Gaikai into the PS4 that effectively makes it a game server." That sounds really cool, but what about mobile devices that people actually own?

ugh, I have to install Origin

It's 90% buzz words, 10% content.

user30

lol verge

@agent86 Why?!

11:38 PM

I find I can still keep up without sound...

@Powerlord free video game.

@agent86 Which one?

@Wipqozn This one guy in particular is just reading from a teleprompter so hard.

@Powerlord crysis 3

BFF! Now included with your PS Vita

11:39 PM

@badp lol IDK my bff vita?

Can't tell if they just announced backwards compatibility, or if that's a wishlist item

The 5 Most Secretly Badass Countries

Canada's in the list!

@Powerlord I can't tell either.

user30

They announced they're working on backwards compatibility but it's not native.. I think

@FAE At least he's not high, which the other guy obviously was.

11:40 PM

Yay, PlayStation Cloud Services.

@Powerlord I think they mean on Gaikai with PS+ or something.

idk, there was no sounds.

user30

I mean, PS+ is probably going to be a big part of the online offering

user30

They only have to look at Xbox Live

Did they just go Apple? It's elegant!

The question is going to be: Will it require PS+ or be available to everyone?

Also, still no mention of physical media.

11:42 PM

@Powerlord We all know where this is going to go, I'm afraid

Wow, really creepy

They basically just said they're going to be MONITORING WHAT'S GOING ON IN YOUR ROOM

You know you're playing GOOD when you hit the DOWNLOADING screen!

Wait, there's a "rest of my life"?

user30

Why would you want your games to follow you around?

@ThomasMcDonald Because my PS Vita is my BFF.

11:44 PM

@ThomasMcDonald They're basically reannouncing OnLive as if it was a new thing

user30

@badp This can't be always on.. surely it would just be a thin client then

OnLive had 90% of those features, including saving the video of your last few seconds of gameplay

@ThomasMcDonald Fuck knows.

user30

lol yer, mashed the enter rather than backspace

THE GAME

we all lost it

Well that was a whole lotta nothing

11:45 PM

thanks Japan

Whoa, gyah

flux just triggered

I thought this was supposed to be a slow process

@SaintWacko There's a setting for that

@FAE marketing!

@SaintWacko Uh, it should be... it's a setting

@badp @FAE Found it, thanks

11:46 PM

I'm not sure why I'm bothering to watch the rest of this. By this time, it's clear I'm never going to get a PS4

@SaintWacko Should go gradual based on your location now.

@SaintWacko too late

If I don't have a Facebook account, I think it shows I'm not comfortable with being tracked all over the web, let alone having a creepy stalker box sitting in my living room

@badp Damn, you blocked your location. The whole thing was really a ploy to get that

The good thing about the PS4 announcement is that there's yet been no wimpy boy band interrupting the feature presentation

11:48 PM

@badp Do you recognize a Dutch accent?

@FAE Not particularly :(

@badp This guy's is very strong.

@Powerlord Do you use Google?

Man, I am really looking forward to tomorrow

Guerrilla Games is based in Amsterdam.

11:48 PM

I wasn Ubuntu on my N7!

I hope that's PS4-rendered.

user30

hmm okay if they're doing game announces

Oh no, IGN's stream is freaking out. Might need to switch. Sony isn't doing an actual twitch stream, are they?

@Ullallulloo A PS4 rendered it, saved it in a video and that's what you're watching now!

@MBraedley twitch.tv/playstation/new

user30

maybe I can up the quality from 240p now

11:50 PM

@badp That's pretty good then.

@ThomasMcDonald this is like the boring part

@Ullallulloo well the rendering took four days

user30

yeah, I might try and get some work done

So... this looks just totally prerendered so far

user30

although I'm holding out for some sort of gta announce

I'm not sure why I'm supposed to be impressed here

11:51 PM

@ThomasMcDonald work is overrated

@FAE EXPLOSIONS MOTHERBEEPER, THAT'S WHY

user30

this looks a bit like one of the scenes from deus ex, I think.. except the explosion

jcolebrand

Anyone here play Minecraft on Win8?

@jcolebrand have played it

jcolebrand

I can't seem to get the client to download the files to launch

Looks real.

jcolebrand

11:51 PM

it keeps denying the login

trying to run the force download doesn't seem to do anything either

user30

I'm gonna say, this stream really isn't doing this any justice

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

@ThomasMcDonald There's no way to make any decent judgement call when we can only watch a 240p-480p stream.

@YiJiang'sEvilClone I cracked laughing

user30

Just changed quality to best

11:52 PM

@ThomasMcDonald "Best" really means "Auto"

user30

Yeah, well.

"Best" and 240p are the same to me

user30

even uni internet is not helping

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

The tags are correct, though. The entire thread is gone to shit - there's no "discussion" going on, all the top comments are pithy one-liners that you'd expect to see in r/gaming rather than r/games

ahhh! regenerating health, firing generic assault rifles into nothings, quick time event kills, just what we'd expect from next-gen shooters

the only thing that's missing is covers

user30

11:54 PM

changed it to 720p, it's still blocky as hell

oh there we go. covers

user30

this is live gameplay apparently

user30

> The light bar on his controller is changing color as he moves through the game.