Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

@LoganM I agree so far. But I watched both shows for the music. Not for the plot. The characters aren't really interesting except for Chihaya in IdolMaster.

Logan M

Also, I found mine. It's really poorly maintaned (everything in watching is actually completed by now, and I'm missing anything recent and lots of stuff that I just forget to add)

myanimelist.net/animelist/qinwamascot

Krazer

@LoganM impressive list

Mysticial

Damn, that's a long list.

Logan M

@Mysticial I'll ignore the fact that you just said Miki isn't interesting since you've only watched the anime, which really didn't do her any justice.

Mysticial

12:19 AM

Oh ok... Yeah Miki didn't have much Anime appearance.

Logan M

@Mysticial She actually had a pretty sizable amount (probably 3rd or 4th most, she even got her own story ark), but they never got very deep into her story.

JNat

well, I'm off

see you tomorrow

Mysticial

cya

Godammit... 49ers... Why do you always have to play this catch up game...

Logan M

12:39 AM

@Mysticial One of my friends is the head of [sage]. Last I saw (I've lost the link), her MAL had over 2000 completed, with something like 900 days, which could very well be more than all the active users here combined.

Krazer

@LoganM Sounds about right

Mysticial

900 days... holy shit...

Krazer

best I could do is probably 300 days

Logan M

I think if I managed my list properly and added everything I'm missing, I'd get another 50 or 60 days, but I'd still only be at 170-180 days. If they included VNs I could probably get another 60 or so days like that. But I'm still nowhere near 900.

Mysticial

I actually use MAL to keep track of what episode I've watched.

If I'm watching more than 3 or 4 things at a time, I tend to lose track.

Although more recently, I've been doing that by moving watched episodes into a different folder.

Logan M

12:50 AM

I wish I was that diligent, but usually what happens is I get behind in a series because of real life, then the end of the season comes along and I get worried I won't finish in time so I marathon it. Sometimes I update MAL, but for the past 6 months or so I haven't bothered.

@Mysticial I do that too. I keep everything unwatched in one place, then after I watch it I move it to a series folder.

Also, at least at the beginning of the season, I try to watch shows the day they come out so I won't get confused. But that always breaks down later on.

Krazer

1:09 AM

Anyone see any good commercials?

Mysticial

nope

Yeah... this sucks...

The 49ers came back from 17-0 in the NFC game...

this one seems... well...

I wasn't old enough to appreciate the early 1990s when they were getting Super Bowl wins...

Last year was just sheer rage...

Krazer

I have no clue what I'm watching right now

Mysticial

Neither do I.

I'm trying to do homework right now...

We'll see.

Krazer

2:47 AM

I'm trying to make sense of this question:

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Q: Why are there ending of the series Death Note so different in manga and anime?

Although I have not read carefully the end of the manga, I did not understand why they had to change it? There are many details in the Manga that are not mentioned anime.

Is he asking why the endings differ?

or why certain events play out differently?

Logan M

I don't know. That question was closed and then reopened.

I think what he was asking was "Why did they choose to have a different ending for the anime and manga?"

Krazer

3:09 AM

It's the "there are many details in the manga that are not mentioned anime" part the makes me unsure.

Eric

My two cents... I feel like that question should be closed until the OP edits it to make more sense. Logan is probably right but it's still not made clear in the question itself, so it's just guessing on our part

Krazer

I'll leave comment and see where this goes for now

Logan M

The OP himself said the question should be closed, so he probably isn't too interested in it.

BTW @Krazer what do you think about Katawa Shoujo? On-topic or off-topic?

Krazer

@LoganM It's a doujin work based on a doujinshi concept isn't it? Since we're not allowing that stuff, It's say off-topic.

Logan M

3:26 AM

@Krazer I thought we were allowing doujin works: meta.anime.stackexchange.com/questions/352/….

But anyway it's a VN based on doujin works, but the actual game is done by a western "studio" (group of people who gathered on 4chan and then formed their own studio) and it's written in English. The original artwork was by a Japanese artist, though.

Krazer

@LoganM Hmm... looks like the just concept is Japanese (by a doujin artist, Raita), the actual art for the game is done by the group you mentioned, but it's essentially a game with no direct connection to (an officially published) anime and manga (even if you are asking about the story), unlike Melty Blood... I feel that it's off-topic.

There's already a question about it on Arqade, but it's more gameplay related:

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Q: Which characters have playable routes?

Which of the characters that you interact with in Katawa Shoujo have playable routes?

katawa-shoujo

Logan M

@Krazer Sounds reasonable. I think this is a similar case to OEL manga, because they're deliberately trying to make the game as close to Japanese VNs as they can (it's pretty much indistinguishable from the average nakige except that it's unvoiced and in English)

This is a pretty notable case if we're allowing VNs because Katawa Shoujo is probably one of the top 10 most played VNs in the English community. Not that there are a ton of questions to be asked about it, but there's a good chance we'd get one eventually.

Krazer

3:45 AM

We might need to revisit/rescope the what counts as anime/manga issue later. This question is about a Korean webcomic series, but I personally think it's fine if the series is well-known enough.

Logan M

Yeah Tower of God is a tricky case because it's one of the few manhwa which is more popular than a lot of Japanese manga in the English-speaking anime community. Katawa Shoujo is similar in that respect.

Krazer

There are a couple of Korean manhwa artist that went on to have their own Japanese manga series, too.

Logan M

There are also cases where Japanese manga lead to a Korean live-action show, and vice-versa. I have no idea what to do with that sort of stuff.

Mysticial

4:41 AM

Oh the rage at this superbowl... :(

Almost the biggest comeback in superbowl history.

Oh well...

This is why I don't really watch football anymore... Too much butt-hurt.

This time being the sole exception.

Logan M

4:54 AM

My account here just passed my Math account in rep, so it's now the top one on my user page.

Mysticial

Yeah, that's not happening for me anytime soon against my SO account.

Maybe my meta account at some point. But definitely not SO.

Logan M

Luckily Math.SE has a free-rep tag, where I'm guaranteed +50ish for a 1 line answer. Namely, homework

Mysticial

Yeah, those don't work on SO anymore.

They got rid of the tag.

And the majority of dumb questions get closed and deleted.

Close as "Too Localized". Delete by 10ks

It's better in my tags. But Madara can tell you that's it's really bad in the PHP tag.

Logan M

That happens on MO, which is why MO rep is actually worth something. If you see someone with 10k+ there, either they are refreshing the site every 5 minutes to find the easiest questions they can that aren't going to get closed, or they're a professional mathematician.

But on Math.SE I could get 1k a week if I just answered homework questions

Mysticial

On SO, even a 5-second refresher is too slow.

You literally need to keep you eye on the auto-update.

And click through within a few seconds to win those.

I've long quit those kind of questions.

Too much butt-hurt. Too much competition. You don't make too many friends that way.

Granted, I was actually pretty good at the FGITW game. So I'd win that accept half the time. But still. I hate stepping on everyone's toes.

Logan M

5:05 AM

I never liked the fast-moving sites. It discourages a long, complete answer that also addresses other issues in favor of a 1-line answer without much explanation. Most of the best answers I've read on any Stack Exchange site were long, and I've almost never read a long answer that wasn't worth the time.

Mysticial

@LoganM You have to play that edit game to get in a long answer.

Short answer first to get the initial upvotes.

Massively edit later.

Logan M

And I couldn't possibly win the FGITW duels most of the time. My internet connection takes like 30 seconds just to load a page, and my answers always require some thought and research to make sure they are complete.

Mysticial

While I hate it, that's how my top 2 answers on SO came about.

Granted, I would've "won" them both anyway since the 2nd best answer for both of them don't really compare. But it would've taken a lot longer for my answer to float to the top.

Logan M

The "trick" on Math, which doesn't move fast enough that it's an issue, but moves fast enough that you lose if you're a minute behind, is tactical voting without getting caught

Mysticial

Depending on the time of the day and the tag, you can get away with being a minute late on SO.

Logan M

5:09 AM

If people see a +1 answer and a +0 answer, they're more likely to upvote the +1 than the +0. So you just have to get to +1 before anyone else can post an answer.

Mysticial

But now I mostly focus on questions that nobody else can answer well.

599

A: Why is one loop so much slower than two loops?

Upon further analysis of this, I believe this is (at least partially) caused by data alignment of the four pointers. This will cause some level of cache bank/way conflicts. If I've guessed correctly on how you are allocating your arrays, they are likely to be aligned to the page line. This mean...

^^ I came in 30 minutes late on that one.

Logan M

If that doesn't work, some people try to downvote opposing answers even if they are correct. Or they have friends in chat upvote their answers

It's pretty unfair, but it's hard to catch

Mysticial

@LoganM Tactical downvoting is so severely frowned upon on SO that you will take severe consequences if you're doing it.

Krazer

@LoganM That's just wrong

Mysticial

And it's not that hard to catch either.

Logan M

5:13 AM

@Mysticial Tactical downvoting is caught pretty frequently (I don't have any mod tools over there so I can't tell how often, but there are often meta posts about it), but getting friends to upvote your answer is almost impossible to catch if you know enough people, and it's not really even against the rules if the answer is correct.

Mysticial

@LoganM The whole friends upvoting thing isn't that much of a problem.

Shog9

@LoganM If you do it once, you probably won't get caught. If you do it enough to matter, you'll probably find your friends' accounts deleted.

Mysticial

Sometimes a regular in our chatroom will dump an answer and ask for "help".

And then everybody pours in to "evaluate" it.

Well, it's common in the C++ chatroom.
1. One of us sees a question with a bunch of wrong answers.
2. So he downvotes all of them.
3. And then posts a correct answer.
4. Links it in the Lounge.
5. Upvotes pour in.

Logan M

@Shog9 I'm not doing it, nor do I think it's acceptable, but I've seen it happen many times that an answer would come out 1 minute after another one, and the second was worse all-around, but it quickly accumulated +2 or +3 and became top-voted. I flagged a case of that once, but the mods just told me that I should let the vote fraud algorithm deal with it.

Shog9

@Mysticial Yeah, but they're not just voting for you.

Mysticial

5:18 AM

@Shog9 True, but it might look suspicious in the mod tools. (not that I know what they look like anyway)

Granted, it'll be among a bunch of very high-rep users...

Shog9

@Mysticial It might, but only if there's a group of folks in a room who only (or even mostly) vote for each other. This does crop up every now and then. Lotta accounts suspended or deleted for it - hundreds of votes for the same 6 people, who also all voted mostly for the other 6, that kind of thing.

Mysticial

@Shog9 Yeah. And that's definitely not the case among our chatroom regulars. I think our votes are mostly all over the place. (at least mine should be)

Shog9

@LoganM You see something like that, you go look at the guy's other answers. Are they similarly overrated? Is there a pattern? Then you give that to the mods, and they'll see if there's anything behind it. Not much can be done with one post, unless it's truly blatant.

@Mysticial checks...

Mysticial

@Shog9 Go ahead. I have nothing to hide. :)

Shog9

> 4045 votes. 98% to Mooing Duck.

Nope, nothing suspicious there.

Mysticial

5:23 AM

ahahahaha

And the 2% that are missing are the downvotes.

@Shog9 Wait, he'd have a lot more rep than he does now if that was the case. :)

Shog9

heh

Mysticial

Since I can't possibly upvote him more than 40 times in one day.

So I'd repcap him enough times to give him at least 20k rep.

Shog9

@Mysticial Also not enough posts to vote on

You're right, this is obvious fraud.

Mysticial

@Shog9 true

Shog9

goes to suspend Mystical

Logan M

5:26 AM

@Shog9 I didn't see such a trend in that case. It was pretty blatant from my perspective as a neutral observer, but from a mod's perspective if this was the only time that it was noticed they have to give him the benefit of the doubt. It didn't make too much of a difference in the end, but it annoyed me a bit.

Shog9

@LoganM You gotta remember, there are a lot of voters and... sometimes, they do unpredictable things.

Bizarre, off-topic questions get +3/-6. "me too" answers get +1.

Mysticial

@Shog9 Review queue. :P

Shog9

@Mysticial That was a nice scapegoat while it lasted, but those anomalies are becoming rare

Locking a review task for a bit when someone starts reviewing it to keep others from piling in goes a long way.

Logan M

@Shog9 True. I had a question that I expected to get closed or at most +1 or +2, but instead it was the top question on the Theoretical Physics Beta. In the case of the math answers, there could easily be something I missed. I'll have to see if I can find the question.

Mysticial

@Shog9 I'm just wondering. Can mods see a list of all the ip addresses that an account has been accessed from? I'm curious to see how many ip address I hit between December 24 and January 5th.

Shog9

5:32 AM

@Mysticial Mods do get some IP-related information. I'd have to query for that though.

Mysticial

I was literally WiFi hunting throughout Spain and Morocco.

So I should have hit a gazillion ip addresses - especially in Morocco during that period.

Shog9

I get three, but that's only what you posted from. Would have to hit the logs to get straight-up accesses, and I don't have access to them atm

Mysticial

ah

I posted an answer on Pi from Barcelona. (January 4th)

My two answers on December 23th, should have been from home in California.

Shog9

25: San Mateo

26: Sabadell

Mysticial

@Shog9 Yes that's correct (enough). (Foster City actually)

@Shog9 WTH is that?

Shog9

5:42 AM

spain

28: Morocco

Mysticial

ah

The number is the date right?

Shog9

29-4th: different IPs in Morocco

Mysticial

And a lot of them right?

Shog9

5-8th: different IPs in Barcelona

@Mysticial I only see one a day, since the on-site log only tracks your first access (unless you do something)

Mysticial

I think Sabadell might have been some town nearby Madrid where I connected through.

@Shog9 ah

There were a few instances where I was on a bus in traffic. And I hit at least 5 different unlocked wifi routers.

StackedCrooked

1:36 PM

@Mysticial Just started watching this. Very entertaining :) (cc @Xeo)

Hell Butterfly

2:00 PM

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Q: Can you ask questions with "obvious" in-series answers, if you answer it yourself?

This probably overlaps heavily with Can you ask questions even if the answer is easily found elsewhere?, but two differences being: The answer lies within the series if you pay close attention You answer it yourself. Example: What were the rules of the written round of the Chunin exams? Ob...

discussion

Xeo

@StackedCrooked Oh, did @Mysticial tell you or did you overhear me trying to get him to watch it? :)

Madara Uchiha

4:00 PM

Yo

@Mysticial @Krazer I've closed the DN ending question until he clarifies

(I actually know this guy from RL, I'll tell him to edit it)

JNat

4:19 PM

hey

Yo

how is it going?

Great, how are you?

fine too

tell me something

how much anime have you seen?

Madara Uchiha

@JNat Fair, not much, but I've seen some

JNat

4:21 PM

@MadaraUchiha because Mysticial put a link for his anime list here yesterday

and then LoganM did too

they have a big list

@MadaraUchiha I was just asking to know if was the only one that still hasn't watched that many

Madara Uchiha

@JNat Nah

I don't have much free time either

JNat

@MadaraUchiha same here

Madara Uchiha

My list of "To watch" is about 3 times bigger than "Have watched"

JNat

@MadaraUchiha lol

btw, I have a thing due this friday, so this week I may not be here as often

I'll pop up everyday, but not as much time a day

Madara Uchiha

@JNat Sure

JNat

4:28 PM

@MadaraUchiha so I'm gonna get going

see you later :)

Madara Uchiha

@JNat Bye :P

Logan M

4:41 PM

@JNat Even in my anime club, I had the 2nd or 3rd largest anime list out of ~300 members. Most people had seen only a dozen or fewer shows. So I don't think there's any problem with not having seen a lot, especially if you are an expert in the ones you have seen.

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Also, I don't really have much time anymore to watch a lot. Most of what I watched was in high school, when I would skip school to watch anime. Now I'm only watching 1 or 2 shows at a time.

Krazer

What series was worth skipping school for?

Madara Uchiha

@Krazer Death Note was definitely worth skipping school for.

@LoganM what was the conclusion with JNat yesterday? :P

Logan M

@Krazer In retrospect, most of what I was watching instead of going to school was terrible. Stuff like Da Capo, Negima, To Heart, etc. I don't really remember 90% of it. But I was way ahead in school and had good relationships with most of my teachers, so even if I showed up only a few times a week I was fine.

Sometimes I went to work instead of going to school (I worked at a physics lab so it was actually pretty fun), but sometimes I just went to school and watched anime in the library instead of going to class.

@MadaraUchiha What do you mean? The relevant conversation is chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/6697/conversation/…

Madara Uchiha

@LoganM I mean about SoSP vs TTGL

Logan M

4:58 PM

Oh I stopped caring about that. Maybe you win. I don't know. It's really hard to tell when I haven't watched Naruto and neither of you has watched Gurren Lagann.

Madara Uchiha

@LoganM Indeed

Though "I control reality" pretty much wins against Goku, Superman, God and Chuck Norris, but okay :D

Logan M

Eventually we got to talking about how Lordgenome is the best hacker of all time.

►

Madara Uchiha

@LoganM Awesome

Looks like a twisted version of Megaman

(The anime that is)

Krazer

7:10 PM

@MadaraUchiha It's nothing like that :p

user58512

8:00 PM

hello

Madara Uchiha

@user58512 Hey

user58512

good day @MadaraUchiha

Mysticial

I got pinged for a sec.

user58512

sorry, I did it by accident

Mysticial

Oh, we both start with M. So it probably auto-completed to me instead?

user58512

8:02 PM

yeah

im used to autocomplete taking about of last person who talked

user58512

8:26 PM

so whats up

user58512

8:38 PM

im trying to take a break from study

for a few mins

Madara Uchiha

@user58512 That's the lie we all tell ourselves

user58512

hehe

Mysticial

10:03 PM

0

A: Is Haku a man or a woman?

Haku is clearly transgender. Some boys look like boys, some look like girls. shrugs

^^ is that even an answer?

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial No

I'm giving him an opportunity to improve it, otherwise it will be deleted.

Mysticial

Leave him a comment or he's not gonna touch it.

Madara Uchiha

I'm not sure if a mod post notice generates a notification

Because I've placed one

Mysticial

If you leave him a comment. He'll get the modification.

If you leave him a comment and delete the answer. He'll still the notification.

Because you're mod.

This applies to answers only.

For question, leaving a comment and then deleting the question doesn't do jack.

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial The post notice I left does generate a notification (just asked on TL).

So I guess it's fine

Mysticial

10:08 PM

@MadaraUchiha nonono, I mean inbox notification.

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial What other kinds of notifications are there?

Mysticial

You should know more than me now, but of the ones off the top of my head.

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial I only know chat, inbox and email

Mysticial

Inbox notifications
Post notifications
Mod messages (which I believe includes suspensions)

And email since mods can see the email address.

But I think email is discouraged.

Madara Uchiha

email is a specific mod power, you probably knew that. Chat won't be generated for a 1 rep user (especially if it isn't in chat), all is left is inbox

Bah, I'll just make a sockpuppet and experiment

That's why God created multiple browsers.

Logan M

10:10 PM

Do we even want another answer on that question? It already has 5 answers, one of which is accepted. Unless there's new information (which you Naruto people would know better than me) it seems like we've got it covered, and there's not really anything he can add to make the answer useful.

Mysticial

@MadaraUchiha Just leave a comment on the answer.

If he doesn't do anything. Delete the answer.

Oh ic what you did.

I didn't know you could post notices on answers.

I don't think he gets the inbox notification.

That's not what post notifications are for anyway.

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial I was told he gets them on TL

Mysticial

@MadaraUchiha TL?

Madara Uchiha

Teachers' Longue

Mysticial

ah

That's obviously outside my realm.

But I think the usual comment is the better approach.

From what I've seen, post notices are only for stuff like locks, or the Regex answer.

*on answers

For questions, I see them a lot more.

Madara Uchiha

10:24 PM

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Q: Are there any Series where the Anime was Published before the Manga?

I got into a debate with a friend about whether or not it's possible for an anime to come out before its manga. He claimed that there were several instances where the anime actually preceded the manga. Are there any cases? Is it even possible? I mean, it would make more sense to animate an exist...

anime-production manga-production

Mysticial

@MadaraUchiha Uh... that possibly fails 3 and 4.

StackedCrooked

@Xeo I didn't realize you liked it as well. I just discovered it yesterday :D

Mysticial

The one that pops to mind is Sora no Woto.

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial It actually doesn't ask for a list

It asks whether or not such a thing exists, and asks for a few examples

Mysticial

Oh right, it's a yes or no question.

But it will likely degenerate into an endless list of people posting their favorite examples.

Actually, I'm going to answer that question. And we'll see what happens.

jkerian

10:27 PM

There are some interesting cases like Escaflowne where the anime should have preceded the manga, but didn't because the various rights didn't line up at the right times

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial Sure

Sora no Woto's anime and manga seem to have came out at around the same time

at least according to Wikipedia

Mysticial

The manga started after the series started.

Possibly because the show was popular.

I believe this was definitely the case for Madoka.

Eric

There's actually a suitable list already on TV Tropes which I was detailing in an answer.

I'll go ahead and post it once I've finished writing it up, but such a list does exist.

(As for the suitability of the question, it's phrased in such a way that it doesn't seem like a list request. Go figure.)

kuwaly

Maybe the question just needs to be edited so it's clear that it's not a list question.

Madara Uchiha

@kuwaly You're welcome to do it

Suggest and edit (if you haven't the reputation), and it will be approved if it's good.

You also get +2 out of it :)

It's nice to see some people actually read the FAQ before asking questions.

Mysticial

10:38 PM

And I should blame myself for not reading the question before concluding that it's a list question.

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial Happens to the best of us. Stack Overflow got to us all.

kuwaly

It took me a few times of reading it before I got that it wasn't a list question.

Mysticial

@MadaraUchiha yeah...

Eric

@MadaraUchiha Just how many of us ARE from StackOverflow? Seems quite a few...

Mysticial

Probably about half?

Me, Madara, Logan, jkerian...

Xeo, Stacked...

Eric

10:39 PM

And me! Though not as tenured on SO as the rest of y'all

Mysticial

15k is pretty "tenured"

Eric

I suppose, but it's no 57k (I think? That's from memory)

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial It's somewhere between "tenured" and "sanity lost"

Eric

@MadaraUchiha Haha, indeed

Madara Uchiha

In php or javascript, the "sanity lost" happens at around 10k.

Mysticial

10:41 PM

For me in c, c++, and java it was about 30k.

Lemme test something:

[so-tag:c]

nope, that doesn't work. :(

Eric

I think I started to lose sanity after the 50th "How do i do _____ please give me the code thx"

jkerian

heh... clicked the link... and discovered there were no C++ tags on anime.se

never had any sanity to begin with... that keeps it easy

Mysticial

I haven't answered anything on SO in almost a month.

Granted most of my attention has been on Anime.SE instead. But still

I have my have AR running.

And nothing interesting.

Eric

I assume the Pi one was the last one?

That was an impressive answer

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial You know things are bad on the php tag, when we have a chat room called "cv-pls testing" where we test and enhance the cv-pls extension to help filter out crap more easily.

We're actually thinking of getting it some server-side support

Mysticial

10:45 PM

@MadaraUchiha I saw those button plugins you guys use.

We were like holy shit... that's serious...

Madara Uchiha

@Mysticial I must say it's incredibly effective

A crap question can be closed in under 2 minutes

It's frowned upon because folks supposedly don't get a chance to improve the question before closing

But with all honestly, 95% of those users would have been bothered.

Obito Uchiha

Yey talk in chat privilege!

Madara Uchiha

Well, I'll be off now

Gotta sleep sometime

Mysticial

wow

Eric

G'night!

Madara Uchiha

10:55 PM

@Eric Night

:P

Obito Uchiha

Night

Mysticial

night

Logan M

@Mysticial I don't actually use SO, just Math and Physics. I probably could ask some questions there, since my current research involves a lot of lattice QCD and other high performance computing stuff, but at the moment I'm just using someone else's highly optimized code so I don't need to write anything.

Mysticial

@LoganM Did I mention you? I think I meant someone else.

Oh yeah I did. oops

Logan M

11:19 PM

@Mysticial No worries. There are some other people you missed, like Jon. I think it's actually a lot more than 50% if you count anyone who has ever used SO, maybe as much as 80%, but if you're only looking at people who do so regularly it's probably close to 50%.

Mysticial

At one point right after we launched, this room was literally a copy of all the people from the C++ room on SO.

Me, Xeo, Stacked, Rapptz, and few others - all from our C++ room.

Logan M

lol

Do you think we've exhausted the supply of anime fans on SO? I know there are probably some on the other sites I frequent, but Math definitely wouldn't upvote a community ad over there for our site and Physics would be a pretty big stretch.

Mysticial

@LoganM I doubt it. There are a lot of people who don't even know this site exists or don't care.

For example, I heavily involved with computer hardware.

But I don't have an account on Super User nor do I care to create one.

I just don't want to be in too many places at once.

It's also gonna be difficult to advertise on SO anyways.

Logan M

I just looked through the list of SE sites, and the only other one that looked like we might have a shot at is Role-playing Games

All the other recreation sites aren't out of beta yet, so no community ads

Mysticial

11:35 PM

oh, they graduated already

last time I was aware of them, they were still beta

Logan M

I think we really need to start pulling people in from outside the SE network at this point

Mysticial

I don't feel were quite ready to reddit anything yet.

Hence I haven't made that call yet.

We need at least a handful of well answered questions.

*in our genre at least

I'm not sure about Naruto.

Logan M

I'm sort of worried about the lack of traffic. Recently the number of active users has been steadily decreasing. When we started we had a lot, but now I think we're down to a dozen or so.

Mysticial

Xeo has told me that he got turned away because of the lack of questions in our genre.

I was pretty much turned away for a while too.

You look at the front page, it's all Naruto.

Logan M

Tell him that we're posting more, and get him to post some too.

Mysticial

11:40 PM

Well, not anymore since we've been spamming the site with other stuff.

@LoganM And that's why he's back.

Since I posted a few questions that interested him.

Now atm, I don't consider that we're in any real trouble yet. If we post on reddit and 4chan and the traffic is STILL low... then we have to be concerned.

That is, we are unable to get a front-page link on r/anime. Or we do, and we don't notice an increase in long-term traffic.

Logan M

Right now there's no Naruto or Bleach on the front page at all. If we start having the opposite effect and people don't ask Naruto questions, we'll be losing a lot of what we have experts in right now and turning away a lot of potential users from other sources.

Mysticial

I think we should make a new updated list on our genre shows that currently have no questions.

Logan M

Sure, but we should also set a plan for when we will start advertising on other sites. When we hit 500 questions, or when we get 5 that we can post on Reddit, or something. Otherwise I'm worried we'll keep putting it off and eventually die out without getting a chance to post it at all.

If our site doesn't at least look somewhat active, no one from Reddit is going to join. They'll see the good answer, read it, and then leave.

Mysticial

@LoganM We only need to attract a small % of them to stick around.

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