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10:02 AM
Nah, I'm still busy on meta.
 
Yes, I realised I was wrong. I clicked the wrong button.
I changed from 15 per page to 30 per page, and suddenly there were fewer pages of them.
Which is why I deleted my earlier remark.
 
@RegDwighт thx for sharing the link. I was just having dinner =)
 
@TemporaryNickName I don't think "lol" means what you think it means.
Yay! The game is over. We won!
On that happy note, I can go to bed.
Good night Reg; Good night Temporary.
 
I always though lol describes a facial expression or "laugh out loud" am I correct?
aw uh he's gone
heh :/
 
@DavidWallace Hooray!
And night.
@TemporaryNickName these days it doesn't mean much at all.
These days people will use LOL as replacement for punctuation.
Which is why when they have to convey that they are actually laughing out loud, they now have to resort to writing "actual LOL" or "LOL IRL" or "haha".
Why if that ain't @Ed right there LOL.
Long time no see LOL.
 
10:19 AM
lOl
doesn't lOl looks like pacman from front perspective?
 
21 hours ago, by Matt Эллен
l☹l
 
Jez
anyone know what "Kr" alone on a line might stand for in an e-mail, or has the guy just probably made a typo?
 
Krypton?
 
Jez
unlikely
 
10:22 AM
Well.
Hm.
Is it at the end, the middle, the elsewhere?
 
kr stands for Korea most of time
lol
 
Right, there's that.
 
Jez
@RegDwighт just before the end
almost like where "cheers" would go
 
I see.
Interesting.
First time I hear that.
I mean, even if it's a typo, what could it possibly be a typo of?
Abbreviations.com and acronymfinder are of no help.
 
@RegDwighт Elementary, my dear Watson.
 
10:34 AM
No shit, Sherlock.
 
There has never been an instance where Kr has not been used to mean Kracow, Poland, even in typos. There actually is no element Krypton. It's a misprint.
 
Kraków or Cracow. Pick one.
 
I did pick one. Just not one of those.
 
Ah. My bad.
 
You transliterate how you like. I'll do it how I like. And now that I'm on a PC, it's a pain to put in diacritical marks and look up generalized transliterations of stupid foreign languages.
 
10:38 AM
Krakow is fine, too.
 
Can you sense how much I don't care?
 
The diacritic was not my point; the consonant was.
@Robusto I try, but you know I'm not good at things.
Kraków () also Cracow, or Krakow (), is the second largest and one of the oldest cities in Poland. Situated on the Vistula River () in the Lesser Poland region, the city dates back to the 7th century. Kraków has traditionally been one of the leading centres of Polish academic, cultural, and artistic life and is one of Poland's most important economic hubs. It was the capital of Poland from 1038 to 1569; the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth from 1569 to 1596; the Grand Duchy of Kraków from 1846 to 1918; and Kraków Voivodeship from the 14th century to 1999. It is now the capital of the Les...
I do sense how much you don't káre, if that helps.
 
In the entire absurdist statement I made, you pick on a misspelling of a dubious transliteration to have a hissy fit about?
 
Well sorry, I was going to have a hissy fit about the rest, too, but you interrupted me.
 
Jez
wow
typo it was not
"*Kr is an abbreviation of Kiribati which is collection of island nations in the pacific where I was born. It’s customary for the men of the region to use their abbreviated country of birth as their title instead of Mr or Master but as a sovereign nation this is always placed above Kiribatian name."
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10:40 AM
@TemporaryNickName maybe in Korea. In Scandinavia in normally mean Krone.
 
When it comes to absurdism, I reserve the right to spell things how I like. QED
 
So it's like Barrie England, except it's UK Barrie.
 
@Jez most interesting
Crack Cow. Selling milk on the streets. It's a hard life.
 
So the Kra cow is in Kiribati now?
I'm confused.
 
I think his full name is UK Barrie England-not-Scotland-or-Wales, Jr.
 
10:42 AM
@KitFox We're neck and neck. It'll be a photo finish.
 
Although his middle name might be Somerset. You never know.
 
Somersault. On the senses.
 
You put the "ass" in assault.
 
You put the "ass" in the name of your country.
 
Not that that's a bad thing.
 
10:43 AM
Ditto.
 
You rub the sault in the wound
 
You put the "germ" in the name of your country.
Matt puts the "and" in the name of his country.
 
it keeps falling out.
 
Shoddy workmanship, that.
 
It's just not been fixed since the hurricane of 87
 
10:45 AM
He uses subpar English glue. Should try porridge instead.
 
Me, I put the UN in the name of my country, because I provide a single place for all the nations of the earth to hate each other in person.
 
I put us in Russia. Sorry, was an accident.
 
Actually, aren't we supposed to refer to England as "Bag"? Rhyming slang for "bag of sand"?
 
I didn't get the memo if we are.
 
You never get those memos.
 
10:47 AM
British Post.
 
Or memoes. Or memeos.
 
Sorry, I mean Royal Blackmail.
 
I'm so marginalised I've fallen down the holepunch holes
 
They are called royal because they screw up things royally.
 
and steal
 
10:48 AM
@MattЭллен No. That one is "Royal Blackmails" and it's rhyming slang for Wales. Have you ever been to Tintern Abbey in "Royal"?
 
@MattЭллен no that's the Russian.
The Russian post doesn't even have a name, so busy they are opening packages and eating the contents.
 
I'm surprised more people don't send cyanide-laced cookies through the mails in Russia then. Seems like it would solve that problem quick enough.
 
@Robusto more? How can you exceed 100%? How?
 
@RegDwighт Figuratively, of course.
 
figures
 
10:50 AM
No, you have to figurate. As in a figure eight.
 
@Robusto and yes, the population decreases by some ten million a year. That not fast enough?
 
figures can lie
 
No, only cakes can.
Lies, damn lies, and cakes.
 
Cake can have terrible effects on figures
 
@RegDwighт That's never been fast enough. Why do you think we built all those nukes, which we totally would have used if it hadn't been for the fact that Russia had so many of their own.
 
10:51 AM
lol
 
@Robusto you built all those nukes because capitalism. Had there been no Russia, you'd still have built them. Had you had no atoms, you'd stuff them with cheese. As long as the military budget is rising by 9000% p.a., everything's in order.
 
That's OVER 9000%. Get it right.
 
14 mins ago, by RegDwighт
@Robusto I try, but you know I'm not good at things.
 
3 mins ago, by RegDwighт
@Robusto more? How can you exceed 100%? How?
 
You need to attend a community college class on getting good at things.
 
10:54 AM
Sep 4 at 13:26, by ЯegDwight
And we've come full circle again.
 
Start with ladders.
Ladders are things.
 
Definition of circular reasoning: look up circular reasoning...
 
And I'm going to start with breakfast. Breakfast is a thing. So is coffee. So is bacon. Mmmmmm ... bacon.
 
Why are they clapping?
 
10:58 AM
What the hell is "tit about on ladders" anyway?
I googleimaged for "tit ladders", but I'm not sure how that is what they mean.
 
@RegDwighт "tit about" means "mess around"
 
Then why you no say that?
 
artistic
 
Art is the worst part of fart, and Garfunkel.
 
11:01 AM
is fart art redundant?
 
It's rhyming slang for a nana Conda.
 
SF.
11:28 AM
Hello.
 
Hello.
 
SF.
Is "decree someone a someposition" ("The king decreed Sir Robin the chancellor") (as equivalent of "employ someone at someposition through a decree") a correct sentence?
 
I would expect "X decreed Y to be Z"
 
SF.
Thanks :) I suspected either of these to be correct.
 
but the elision of to be is probably OK.
No trouble.
 
11:51 AM
I would normally expect a clause after decree, not a noun.
 
You have high expectation!
 
SF.
What wording would you use in that example, Cerberus?
The king decreed Sir Robin is the chancellor?
 
Umm I would rather use a different verb and "by decree" or something?
 
Perhaps "The king appoints Sir Robin as chancellor, by decree"?
 
Appointed? Titled?
@MattЭллен Yeah.
 
SF.
11:56 AM
But I want to use Decree as a verb!
 
Why don't you search Google Books for a bit?
You will probably see a lot of clauses, but perhaps some legitimate nouns will come up too.
 
Oxford Dictionaries Online offers:
> the president decreed that the military was to be streamlined
So maybe "The king decreed that Sir Robin was to be chancellor"
 
You can decree a thing, as in a rule.
 
Well, how would you feel about "The king pronounced Sir Robin the chancellor." He made a pronouncement. He made a decree. I don't see a difference. "I now pronounce you man and wife."
 
But decree a person? It sound sodd to me.
 
11:59 AM
It's ellpictical. I don't find it odd.
"I told you I'm going to the store."
 
I just don't feel that decree is normally used for appoint.
 
SF.
But that is "reported speech" (or whatever it is called.)
 
Yes.
 
You can decree a period of time in which x and y shall be completed.
 
12:00 PM
decree v. trans. To ordain, establish, or decide by decree.
 
SF.
Yes, normally you appoint through official channels taking a normal process. This is a special case where all standard procedures are circumvented: you decree something that wasn't a standard so far. Say, to become the chancellor you need to be a Lord, a knight is simply not acceptable on that position, but the decree overrides that rule.
 
Right, well, then I believe you would normally simply add "by decree".
 
You forgot to add "with love" ...
Love is the fifth element. Absolutely necessary.
 
> The new Reichstag promptly became deadlocked and Hindenburg ended by allowing Bruening to rule under Article 48 of the Weimar constitution, which permitted Bruening to govern essentially by decree.
 
SF.
And in my case it's a very quick, extremely simple decree, an assertion of royal power against dissenting institution, the decree simply replacing its head.
 
12:04 PM
> In conclusion, registrars were appointed by decree of January 28, 1930. Notariate. The native "notaries" (cadl, pi. ludul) are appointed by beylical decree.
@SF. Yes, by decree simply means using the discretionary powers available to Mr X's function/title.
> ... moved on 20 May to proscribe by decree all ethnic, religious, and regional associations that had supported political candidates.
> As Hansen (1979) has shown, the Athenians enacted general measures by decree only in emergencies.
 
SF.
Yes, and in my case I don't want to muddle the content of the decree through reported speech. The whole decree is three words. "X is Y."
 
One normally doesn't mention the exact content of the decree in an historical account?
 
SF.
Cerberus, for the reason that normal decrees are usually far to long to cite verbatim.
 
No, I mean, decrees are always paraphrased in historical accounts, except when the exact formula is somehow important, which it rarely is.
 
SF.
Agreed, but in this case the (extremely simple) formula is essential. It is not taking an administratiive decision, it is cutting a monster's head off and sending a strong message that way.
 
12:10 PM
Hello
 
@MattЭллен How are you?
 
I'm fine, thank you. How are you?
 
I am good. Thanks for asking.
 
Good, good.
 
12:12 PM
@SF. Uhm, by saying "*the King decreed Mr X Chancellor", you're still not reporting the exact formula, you're paraphrasing.
 
SF.
You've got a point.
 
How about "The King decreed that Mr X be appointed Chancellor"?
 
@Cerberus Formular?
 
@Noah Oops!
 
@Cerberus o͝ops
No prob.
 
12:15 PM
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&tbo=d&sout=1&sclient=psy-ab&q=%22decreed+*+be+appointed%22&oq=%22decreed+*+be+appointed%22&gs_l=serp.3...‌​7972.11157.0.11929.6.5.1.0.0.1.172.575.2j3.5.0.les%3B..0.0...1c.1.oELGwvfA870
Ugh.
SE can't handle my link, as usual.
You'll have to copy-pasta, or drag it up if you have Easy Drag to Go installed.
 
SF.
“decreed 'no person shall be appointed a chaplain in the United States
Allaah decreed for him to be appointed the position of religious admonisher
 
My sentences have all been commuted. Laters.
 
SF.
decreed that Jews not be appointed
... I just see total anarchy here.
I kinda like it. I can roll my own and nobody will be any wiser to present counter-examples ;)
 
Notice how none of those have a simple person-object.
One normally just doesn't use the verb there, I believe, but rather "by decree".
 
12:39 PM
@Cerberus in firefox just select the link and right click -> open in new tab
 
12:49 PM
@MattЭллен Ah yes, I didn't know that was possible.
I am hooked to EDTG so I wouldn't know.
I installed in on my friend's computer, and she said she felt handicapped when it stopped working at some point (I reenabled it soon after, of course).
 
Sounds like a clothing store for transvestites ;)
 
I believe Aedia is using it too.
@MattЭллен Hahahaha yes!
For easy transvestites, that is.
 
By the way, may I make a confession?
 
12:52 PM
I feel about transvestites a bit like my great-grandparents must have felt about gays.
 
"It's all right, but weird."
"It doesn't happen in our family" etc.
 
So I have to question my mode of thinking.
I just don't understand it.
 
I find it unusual, but it's fun, so...
 
SF.
12:53 PM
Well, it's hard to be trusting one whose style of clothing is chosen with convincing deceit of your perception in mind.
 
@MattЭллен But I mean if you dress up in women's clothes in daily life.
@SF. Um, whom do they deceive exactly?
It is plain to see that they aren't women.
 
SF.
They try to look like opposite gender, make others believe it - it's a deceit.
 
But they don't!
They don't try, and nobody would believe it.
 
@Cerberus I don't, and I find it difficult to understand how a transvestite feels.
 
SF.
12:55 PM
Tell that to that hot lass you've picked at the bar, who only at your home appears to be packing ;)
 
but I approve, none-the-less :D
 
@SF. Um and how often does this happen?
@MattЭллен Approve, as in you're okay with it, or you would really like it if everybody did it?
 
SF.
It's not for lack of trying that not very often. A matter of skill and general body shape, not intent.
 
Um then you have to be blind, no offence.
Perhaps it's different in Asia.
 
@Cerberus As in; it doesn't make me uncomfortable.
 
12:57 PM
OK.
I have to confess that it is a bit of an elephant in the room.
If I'm talking to a transvestite.
 
Yeah. I would probably put my foot in it at some point.
 
But I know only one, and not very well (met at birthdat party twice).
 
I don't know any AFAIK
 
@MattЭллен Uhm what?
 
@Cerberus say something wrong
 
12:58 PM
Oh haha.
That is a new expression.
To me.
 
SF.
I don't know any either. Except of that one guy with far too many unusual fetishes... with transvestitism quite far down his list.
 
It can be much more than a fetish.
I know this guy who dresses up as a (decently clad) woman 24/7, at work, everywhere.
 
SF.
Yes, it can. Not in that specific case though.
 
Right.
 

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