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2:00 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I want people to have instructions. In fact I think I can't publish on Rebrickable if I don't supply instructions.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт yeah, I guess you gotta do what you gotta do.

RegDwighт

Though the automatically generated instructions are really dumb at times.

Like, really dumb.

Let me illustrate...

They will sometimes tell you, "go connect the green and the brown brick to the long yellow brick underneath them", then "put the long red brick on top of all of them" and then, in step 3, they will tell you "now put the 1×2 yellow brick in the gap between the brown, green, red and yellow brick".

And I see no way to fix the instructions manually. Did a couple searches for other tools, not very promising.

Mar 16 at 12:47, by RegDwight Ѭſ道

I only ever tried that design tool available from the LEGO website. It was nice, but only had like a couple hundred different pieces, and most importantly it required a minimum screen resolution of over 9000. Seriously, I could only see one half of it at a time. On my 82-cm monitor.

They seem to have fixed the former problem, and ½ fixed the latter. fingers crossed

Suffice to say that LEGO themselves use a completely different tool internally.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Of course they do

they also have a team of people dedicated to instruction design

I'm sure their tool requires weeks of practice to get even somewhat proficient

but once learned, can do crazy things

RegDwighт

Those are industry designers with PhDs. They can use CAD tools in their sleep.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт you think the folks who make the instruction books have PhDs? I wouldn't think that's a requirement

the PARTS-design folk, maybe

designing a new part is a bit like adding a public API to your operating system. You could be stuck with it for years later.

RegDwighт

2:12 PM

I was still talking about the actual designers but I wouldn't be surprised if the manual people are not exactly random fanbois they picked off a random forum, either.

KitFox

What's MOC to LDD?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

The model creators are not all PhDs either.

@KitFox MOC = "my own creation". LDD is a lego cad tool

RegDwighт

@KitFox My Own Creation (as opposed to an official set) and LEGO Digital Designer [format].

Jinx.

KitFox

OH I see. Thanks.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

RegDwighт

2:14 PM

Oh nais.

Illegal building techniques, too.

Man, that's a metric shit ton of work.

Certainly helped by a CAD tool.

KitFox

I made a tool of my website yesterday. I am excited to tweak it today.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

from here

KitFox

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I wonder if it is empty or filled with brown transparent and clear bricks.

Oh. I guess not.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox yeah, seriously. It SHOULD be.

RegDwighт

I do wonder what those tiny plastic, um, threads are.

The big ones I know.

But not the tiny ones that keep the big ones bent.

Probably just rubber.

Yeah, must be rubber rings. Those do come in red. My VW camper van has one.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:23 PM

elastic bands

JSBձոգչ

@RegDwighт what exactly is an "illegal building technique"? do the lego cops come and arrest you if you use one? does the the lego building inspector revoke your lego license?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

like the ones found in bionicle kits

@JSBձոգչ Some building techniques are "illegal" because they stress the parts too much

RegDwighт

@JSBձոգչ no, it's just a technique LEGO would never use themselves. Usually involves putting undue stress on the bricks.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

jinx

RegDwighт

Oh come on.

3 hours ago, by RegDwighт

Every time I choose not to answer a question in chat, the chat is dead for like three hours. Every time I choose to answer, someone else chooses to answer even faster. Stupid Murphy.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:26 PM

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A: When did Lego decide that it was okay to put a stud into a technic hole?

2006 Lego's official position on this technique was explained at Brickfest 2006. Jamie Berard, then a relatively new designer in Billund gave an excellent presentation on why certain techniques are considered "illegal" in official sets. The basics message is that building techniques should: no...

In that answer there's a link to a PDF with some of LEGO's official rules on what's "legal"

JSBձոգչ

lego has rules? for what?

KitFox

@Noah Go for expresses more enthusiasm than go with.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JSBձոգչ rules for what kinds of parts can be attached together in what ways in official kits.

i.e. endorsed building techniques

RegDwighт

@KitFox there is no trans-brown, sadly. I think the closest you can get is trans-orange. bricklink.com/catalogItem.asp?P=3023

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

You'll never see an official lego kit that builds a circular wall of 2x1 bricks, for example.

JSBձոգչ

2:28 PM

ok, interesting. i thought maybe these were rules for building competitions or something

RegDwighт

@JSBձոգչ for not using Megabloks.

KitFox

@RegDwighт Bummer.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт trans-black would probably work too

JSBձոգչ

so about voting: not only is my polling place a shooting range, but it's only accessible via dirt road

2

KitFox

Huh. I've been creating a bunch of templated controls to make maintenance easier. I have a pile of them. Suddenly I had the thought "Why am I not using nested master pages for this?"

Now I have to think if that makes sense.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:31 PM

@JSBձոգչ Do you have to be able to strip down a rifle in under a minute before they give you a ballot? Or shoot some clay pigeons?

JSBձոգչ

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 no, but they let you select candidates by rifle

RegDwighт

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 yeah I was actually thinking a mix of colors. Trans-black with trans-orange.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@JSBձոգչ Probably more accurate than electronic voting machines. One person, one bullet, one vote.

Matt Эллен

2:42 PM

So the winner is the last person standing?

I am president because everyone else is dead

JSBձոգչ

hooray! Matt for president! kill everybody else!

Matt Эллен

lol

RegDwighт

2 hours ago, by RegDwighт

@tchrist save on the infrastructure — let Her Majesty shoot the wrong candidate directly.

@RegDwighт: Why? First one may be used when you confirm someone's an anarchist, the other while reading the black box from a crashed plane. — SF. 5 mins ago

Really? Two upvotes? That's three people who actually would say "we know his descent"? Am I in the minority here?

Matt Эллен

I will probably agree with you in a minute. I'm checking in working code at this moment

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

RE: donald Trump on twitter last night:

> Well Donald Trump did say that if Obama won there'd be hell toupee.

KitFox

2:50 PM

@RegDwighт Uh. Well, I agree with you.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт I won't say that that phrase is impossible, but pretty unlikely. It needs "of" or smth.

RegDwighт

I was really confused there for a second.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I know your confuse.

RegDwighт

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 that's my point. Know of, know about, learn about, knock yourself out. But not just know.

KitFox

We know his descent intimately.

His descent has been to dinner.

I personally have had tawdry relations with his descent.

RegDwighт

2:53 PM

@KitFox the real kicker is surprise on top of that.

How you can be surprised to know whatever, is a question in itself.

Both sentences just don't feel right.

KitFox

Yeah. You aren't surprised by what you know. You are surprised by things you learn or come to know about or become aware of.

Matt Эллен

maybe if descent is being used as a synonym for parentage?

KitFox

Like descendant.

Matt Эллен

the line of descent

RegDwighт

@MattЭллен good thinking. Still, surprise keeps interfering.

Matt Эллен

2:56 PM

well, it's more unlikely than someone forgetting of

KitFox

Before I read the question, I figured that Reg's "we know his descent" was pineapple for "We know he's decent."

RegDwighт

And it still has a chance of being just that.

KitFox

Oh. Hang on. Forgot to test something I just deployed to production.

Sweet. I rock.

RegDwighт

"We were surprised, too. No! Off his the scent."

Matt Эллен

@KitFox me too! high fives

RegDwighт

2:58 PM

But will you rock me?

Matt Эллен

I'll rock your socks off, if you like

RegDwighт

IPN

Before anyone asks again, that's "I'm posting naked" for you. I'm at work, after all.

KitFox

Oh. I thought it was interplanetary.

RegDwighт

Inter Planetary Nakedness.

I'm naked from here all the way to Jupiter.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Jupiter is naked too.

RegDwighт

3:00 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 those are fantastic slides.

Matt Эллен

That's what those Jupiterians are pointing their telescopes at!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт One of the better answers on bricks.se

RegDwighт

Mind = blown. 0.14 mm, dude. 0.14 mm!

I even mistyped, that's how blown my mind is.

KitFox

@MattЭллен Jovians, innit?

Matt Эллен

@KitFox Thankyou! I was scrabbling around for that word, but couldn't put my fingers on it

KitFox

3:03 PM

I'm back to work. Ping if you need me.

Robusto

@RegDwighт My Dinner With Alexei?

RegDwighт

@Robusto Day of the Tense-Tackle.

MετάEd

@KitFox I personally have had tawdry relations with his affinity.

Robusto

@MattЭллен All the planets point their telescope at Venus, but she is fully clothed with cloud cover.

Matt Эллен

@Robusto She's really hot, though.

Robusto

3:12 PM

Tru dat.

RegDwighт

The bottom one is a surprise to me @Mr.ShinyandNew安宇.

Robusto

@MattЭллен But all the planets are tired of Venus being such a tease.

RegDwighт

I think I saw at least one official set where this technique was used.

I think it was a police car. An older one, 80s, or even 70s.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт There's a slide that shows a set that used that, I think

Anyway, I think they don't claim to have never violated these rules.

MετάEd

Rules for connecting legos. Wow. The Danish are as bad as the Germans (and the Austrians).

RegDwighт

3:14 PM

Come to think of it, the top left is a surprise of sorts as well.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I don't know why the 1x1 clip with a tile should be illegal though.

jinx!

RegDwighт

Minifigs hold plates like that all the time.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

yeah

and that is explicitly called out as legal

RegDwighт

And their hands are actually thinner than the thick clip on this plate.

Of course, from the engineering perspective being thicker does not translate to being more stable.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I'd say it should depend on how the part is meant to be used. Is it like a flag or flap? then it's fine like that.

@RegDwighт No but they are worried about part stress. I have noticed that some of my collectible minifigs have had their hands loosen from holding bar-sized accessories.

Matt Эллен

3:15 PM

there's nothing wrong with raising your own flag

KitFox

My hand is definitely looser after all the bar accessories I've lifted.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

for example Disco Stu's hand that holds the record is looser than his other hand. And the gorilla's hand holding the banana is too.

RegDwighт

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I've heard about that. But thankfully never experienced it myself. All my minifigs are stored away without any accessories, saves space. Very few are on display, and not for long.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I never noticed that before. I wonder if the collectible minifigs are just lower quality. It seems that way sometimes.

RegDwighт

No idea. But I actually specifically heard it about old minifigs. They would lose grip after a couple decades. Understandable.

What does a new hand cost, anyway? Thankfully they are replaceable.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:18 PM

oh... yeah, my OLD minifigs, sure... hell, lots of them have broken hands, or cracked arms, or cracked torsos

@RegDwighт that's true. I should buy a few bags

for peace of mind

Some of them are not common colours though. Like the gold statue guy from the atlantis kit.

RegDwighт

10 cent yellow/dark bluish gray, 15 cent in light flesh, more in other colors, all the way up to 1.80 in dark purple. Business as usual, I'd say. Nothing of notice.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

dark purple, eh? wonder if I have any of those

RegDwighт

Batman. And Superheroes.

I don't seem to have any.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

hey, I do! Magneto!

No way I could part with those hands

RegDwighт

Well, happy spending two dollars apiece. Plus shipping.

Or just wait till the pick-a-brick wall at your local store has them. As if.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:25 PM

I have the "sand-purple" ones too, from the SW Ep II bounty hunter

wow those are way cheaper

dark turquoise is $3.50

RegDwighт

Pfft.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I have that one too: Greedo

RegDwighт

I think I have like five bricks in that color. I think that's all they ever produced.

Rather useless type of brick, too. Inverted slope 2x3.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

you don't like inverted slopes?

I like slopes so much I have them in separate bags from all the other parts

RegDwighт

I mean it's not the first part you'd think of when looking for a new color.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:29 PM

I have a bag for slopes, for inverted slopes, and for arches

RegDwighт

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I have everything separate from everything else. By type and color.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт oh... right, useless in that colour.

@RegDwighт I wish I could do that.

RegDwighт

You can't even build a house out of inverted slopes.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I have little jars of small parts. a jar for 1x1 plates, a jar for small tiles, a jar for big tiles, etc. When I have lots of one part in one colour, it gets its own jar

But what I really need is a huge shelf/drawer system

and a robot to put things away

RegDwighт

And other places, too, they are usually used to support other things, by design, and get lost underneath those. What do you care if your balcony is resting on turquoise or dark turquoise or medium blue slopes.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:31 PM

Otherwise I get so distracted putting things away

@RegDwighт yeah. Unless you are using them for accents. But then you'd probably need more than just turquoise slopes.

RegDwighт

Exactly.

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 turns out you don't need that much space. I have like 150k parts now, and that's 1½ Billys.

The remaining ½ is used for display.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwighт Billy - the ikea billy?

RegDwighт

Yeah.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

yeah, I have like a dozen of those in my house :)

RegDwighт

And the 1½ that are occupied are occupied with boxes that are ¼ empty, to easily accomodate a growing collection.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:33 PM

well, okay, 3. But I'm getting another soon.

I wonder if two billys would be enough. I have 4 rubbermaid tubs filled with lego.

RegDwighт

And 50% of that is air between the bricks.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

RegDwighт

You can easily optimize.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Four of those. Or is it five.

RegDwighт

Also, that thing isn't rectangular. You lose quite some space because of that.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:35 PM

it's five, and probably six if you wanted to put away all the stuff that's not put away.

@RegDwighт I can optimize, yes. Easily? ha!

I guess maybe two billys might be enough.

I'll bring it up with the wife tonight, and post a picture of a new black eye tomorrow.

Matt Эллен

if you melt the plastic down, it will take up a lot less space.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Actually I wish I had a better place to put this sort of thing. There isn't a room in my house well-suited to having a large collection of lego.

The only "play" area is the "office" which is L-shaped and a traffic area and visible to guests. So I like to keep it tidy.

Matt Эллен

you'll have to give it all away to an orphanage and start collecting again

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Also if I were to put the lego on shelves, then my kids would realize just how much there is.

@MattЭллен I know, right? my problems are so awful! Why, god, why!

Matt Эллен

lol

I wasn't criticising :) just talking nonsense

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:43 PM

I know

it's just funny. Talk about "first world problems": "too much lego"

Matt Эллен

the lego community could join together and build a space elevator. I bet lego is strong enough.

RegDwighт

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 the Tower Bridge wouldn't fit onto one of those shelves; but if you disassemble it, you could easily put 4 to 6 of them away on a single shelf. I know for a fact because I sorted mine into my usual containers prior to starting working on it.

And again, that's with ¼ free space counted in just in case.

So make that 5 to 8.

Matt Эллен

I make it 12 to 4

RegDwighт

You only start running into problems with huge-ass parts, which is why I try not to buy those in the first place.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

How did I not know about this: oobject.com/pictures-of-the-lego-house-construction-progress/…

RegDwighт

3:48 PM

@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 it was posted in this very room.

Matt Эллен

> This site is gay. One picture per page = stupid.

lol

the internet is amazing

RegDwighт

I see several pictures on that page.

More than one is of LEGO, too.

Matt Эллен

That guy doesn't know what he's talking about.

slightly more user friendly slide show: barnabygunning.com/_project.php?ID=3

JSBձոգչ

the house is astoundingly pretty

probably doesn't hold up well to earthquakes, though

or small children

RegDwighт

@JSBձոգչ it only stood for three days or something.

It was then disassembled and the bricks given away to charity.

JSBձոգչ

3:58 PM

see? it can't even resist charity

RegDwighт

They probably didn't give away the loo bricks. Hopefully.

Matt Эллен

the 2nd weakest of all the fundamental forces

Alenanno

@RegDwighт Ahah thanks! :D

MετάEd

Santorum: Today is the day for America to stop leading from behind.

Matt Эллен

leaking*

RegDwighт

4:04 PM

Nonono. Please no leaking from the front.

MετάEd

4:18 PM

Better Rick it up.

MετάEd

4:28 PM

18 hours ago, by MετάEd

Nov 1 at 18:03, by MετάEd

Oct 5 at 16:14, by MετάEd

Dammit. I killed the room again.

Bane

Hello all, I have a question about a phrase... Is "well color me enlightened" sarcastic or sincere?

JSBձոգչ

0

Q: how to refer a person with indefined sex?

the title is a little confuse because i don't know how to explain in one line... so: i have a portuguese phrase like this: Marque alguém como amigo(a). Ele(a) receberá uma notificação. which litteraly translated to english means: Mark someone as friend. He(or she) will get notified. In portugu...

gen ref? dup?

Bane

(Or does it depend on the context)

JSBձոգչ

@Bane a little of both

Bane

Well, one of the fans of my Facebook page left that as a response to a post of mine, and I'm not sure what he meant...

RegDwighт

4:38 PM

@JSBձոգչ Closed already.

Bane

Anyone got more info on that phrase?

Matt Эллен

it means that he feels enlightened

unless he's being sarcastic

Bane

Yeah, that's what I wanted to know...

Matt Эллен

in which case, what you said he found very obvious

Bane

Well, that can't be true because I just told a story.

Matt Эллен

4:42 PM

well then, you have your answer

Hm, OK, thanks.

no probs :)

kermute

I need one more star to get a stupid silver badge. And a mere 76 to get a gold one.

cornbread ninja

4:56 PM

@JSBձոգչ do you get to shoot your choices instead of filling in the bubble with a pencil?

Robusto

0

Q: How to create cover note for CV?

I send my CV to get a job into one company. But they rejected it. The reason was: "Please do not send your CV without a cover note." English is not my native language and it is hard for me to understand what does cover note mean. What information it should contain?

cv

OT.

RegDwighт

Who the f is Puerto Rico and what do they want?

Messing with the flag again, eh.

JSBձոգչ

i'm against Puerto Rico. can't we sell it back to spain or something?

MετάEd

@JSBձոգչ Wouldn't that be up to the people of Puerto Rico?

RegDwighт

At any rate, I think the US flag should just read "★★★★★★★★★★★★★…" for all backwards, future, and other compatibility reasons.

JSBձոգչ

5:04 PM

:P

@RegDwighт how about one huge star? it's synecdoche

RegDwighт

I was thinking "★*" and a footnote.

But that's Australia.

@JSBձոգչ also, how is becoming part of the US different from going back to Spain?

JSBձոգչ

um, because the US is not spain?

b/c we took the island from spain in a ridiculous trumped-up war over nothing that anybody even remembers any more?

RegDwighт

Spanish is spoken everywhere, your cities have Spanish names, and Spaniards decide the outcome of elections.

So there.

JSBձոգչ

oh, you've done me in

how about russia? are the russians interested in buying some real estate?

RegDwighт

Real or unreal, state or estate, buy or sell, Russians don't give a shit.

They have lots of racing to do on their streets, and lots of posting on youtubes.

Me, I have to make do with a bus. Lators.

user19161

5:27 PM

Hahaha, I now have 3+3 stars on the wall!

Alenanno

Does it make sense to say "This email is (already) subscribed"? Can an email "subscribe"?

user19161

@Alenanno What do you want to mean?

Alenanno

@WillHunting What I said! lol As in "This email is already taken."

user19161

@Alenanno I would just say this email address is already taken.

Alenanno

@WillHunting I wasn't asking for alternatives, though. I wanted to know if that was grammatical or not. :P

user19161

5:38 PM

@Alenanno Without checking, I would say I never heard of it, but maybe the rest will say otherwise.

user19161

@Alenanno It's time for you to put on a Christmas hat next month, like you did last year.

Alenanno

It's quite early, don't you think?

user19161

@Alenanno Hence next month, lol.

Alenanno

@WillHunting I got fooled by "it's time" lol

user19161

Is it only ELU that has the GR close option?

tchrist

5:47 PM

@RegDwighт You mean Spanics do, not Spanish.

user19161

@RegDwighт They may not give a shit, but they certainly do shit.

user19161

Hey @matt!

Matt Эллен

hi @WillHunting

MετάEd

user19161

@MετάEd I like flags with no round objects.

Alenanno

5:56 PM

@WillHunting So you don't like Japan's flag?

user19161

This JR guy always gives well thought meta answers.

user19161

@Alenanno Yes, something like that.

MετάEd

user19161

HAHAHAHA

Alenanno

lol

user19161

6:06 PM

So it took 25 days for 104 commits on ELL. Maybe beta will begin in another 25 days with another 96 commits to reach 200.

MετάEd

Better. I always hate fencepost error.

Or there's always Captain America's shield.

Carlo_R.

Hello everyone and congratulations to American people for having elected an excellent President.

Italian newspaper are confirming the result.

user19161

@Carlo_R. President should not be capitalised there as it is used as an ordinary word and not part of a title.

user19161

@Carlo_R. Also, newspapers should be plural there.

Carlo_R.

@Will :)

@Will I noticed JR guy. He have really some great meta-answer.

MετάEd

6:15 PM

@Carlo_R. Some of us are more enamored than others.

@Carlo_R. I have a trademark on that.

Carlo_R.

"enamored" what?

I do not know this word, but I have to purchase a dictionary to consult while using my phone.

The problem is that with my phone I cannot search for words while I am in chat.

user19161

I just noticed that Daniel's delta looks different on different pages, lol.

user19161

Sometimes it is big delta and sometimes it is small.

user19161

Also, just now someone wanted to post on a closed question, so he edited an existing answer to do that, lol.

Carlo_R.

Guys, is it true that "excise", meaning "to cut", is distinct in origin from excise in the sense of a custom duty?

user19161

6:27 PM

You need to check out etymonline.com first.

Carlo_R.

Yes, but it is strange to me that similar but quite separate words evolve identical spellings.

Robusto

@WillHunting Sheesh, and I thought Vitaly was vain. At least he was vain about things that mattered. Well, mostly.

Carlo_R.

@Rob Is it true that a door that is bolted is secure, but a horse that has bolted has taken off?

user19161

@Robusto Yes, I am the starf***er like you said. =)

MετάEd

@Carlo_R. innamorato

Robusto

6:33 PM

@Carlo_R. Yes, and a thunder that has bolted is lightning.

Carlo_R.

Meta thank you, than enamored means "innamorato"? I was innamorato when I was young.

@Rob thank you so much.

user19161

@carlo Too many copies of thank you already.

Robusto

@WillHunting That's not what I said.

Jun 6 at 20:44, by Robusto

@JasperLoy You're such a star-fucker.

See? No asterisks.

Carlo_R.

@Rob pardon if I disturb you, but do you know the English word "dord"?

simchona

Also, a hyphen.

user19161

6:37 PM

Also, with a hyphen. QED.

user19161

Jinx.

Robusto

Dord

Dord is a notable error in lexicography, an accidental creation, or ghost word, of the G. and C. Merriam Company's staff included in the second (1934) edition of its New International Dictionary, in which the term is defined as "density". Philip Babcock Gove, an editor at Merriam-Webster who became editor-in-chief of Webster's Third New International Dictionary, wrote a letter to the journal American Speech, fifteen years after the error was caught, in which he explained why "dord" was included in that dictionary. On July 31, 1931, Austin M. Patterson, Webster's chemistry editor, sent ...

simchona

@Carlo_R. it's not really a word. It was a mistake.

Robusto

Carlo is trying to put one over on me, but I am too crafty to allow it.

user19161

@Carlo_R. Pardon if I ask, but why do you ask Robusto every question? Can't the rest answer too?

Carlo_R.

6:40 PM

@Will yes, of course, I would like if others can answer.

I'm wondering if there are other errors in nowadays dictionaries..

I hope "nowadays" can be used as an adjective.

Otherwise I would have write "modern dictionaries"

KitFox

Is anyone else having drastically long load times for anything Google related?

@Kit Hello :)

Hello @Carlo.

@Carlo_R. written

@sim thank you.

6:48 PM

Seriously. What the hell? Everything from Google is taking minutes to load.

Carlo_R.

@Kit from Italy there is no problem. It functions as always, quickly.

tchrist

@WillHunting Usage varies on that one. By analogy, few people refer to ER as England’s queen; she is the Queen, not the queen. If she is the British Queen, then he is the American President. What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.

Carlo_R.

Hello @tchrist I know you have a your own software to reading the OED.

Robusto

@Carlo_R. You should use it like this: "I'm wondering if there are other errors in dictionaries nowadays."

The answer would of course be "Yes, there are."

tchrist

The OED, for example, is known to contain two errors.

Carlo_R.

6:56 PM

So I ask you, why certain forms like ish, ness, ful, and some should continue to thrive while others like lock and gry that were once equally popular should fall into disuse?

simchona

@Carlo_R. Because English speakers are suffix biased, and pick 2 a year to ignore.

Robusto

Just because.

tchrist

One of them is a substantive, the other a verb.

There was never a -gry suffix or combining form.

So the premise is false.

Robusto

One of them is a porcelain unicorn, the other is a ketone ring.

tchrist

@KitFox It’s that new Windows browser virus, right?