I can't believe that it's you who is whining here, and not me who's seen thousands of movies with Russian dubbing, i.e. one guy with a nasal voice reading all the roles off his sheet, on top of the original voices, and with no attention to pacing or really anything at all.-
If all of Scandinavia and Holland and Belgium and many other countries can watch subtitled films, then why can't everyone? This has nothing to do with understanding the language, because nobody here speaks French or Spanish or Italian or Russian or Japanese.
@Cerberus translating a medium in another medium is not a 1:1 translation. If in one place you have to watch the movies, and in another you have to read them, that is ruining the experience.
@RegDwighт On the contrary, it adds to it. These are the original voiced, the original intonation, the original sounds, the original language, in short, the original experience.
If you watch a movie in Kartvelian, you are not having the original experience. The original experience is to watch the movie in Kartvelian while having Kartvelian as your mother tongue.
> poeˈtastering sb. and a., acting the poetaster, composing poor or feeble verse; poeˈtasterism, poeˈtastery, -try, the work of a poetaster, feeble verse or versification; poeˈtastress, a female poetaster; poeˈtastric, -ical (also, erroneously, poetastic, -tical) adjs., of, pertaining to, or of the nature of, a poetaster.
poˈeticize /-saɪz/, v. Etymology: f. as prec. + -ize. 1. trans. To make poetic; to treat poetically; to put into poetry, write poetry about. Hence poˈeticized ppl. a.; poˈeticizing vbl. sb. Also poˈeticizable a.; poeticiˈzation, poˈeticizer. 2. intr. To write or speak as a poet.
poetize /ˈpəʊɪtaɪz/, v. Etymology: ad. Fr. poétiser (14th c. in Hatz.-Darm.); see poet and -ize. 1. a. intr. To play the poet; to compose poetry; to write or speak in verse, or in poetical style. 3. trans. a. To make poetical; to turn into poetry; to imbue with the spirit or style of poetry. b. To celebrate in poetry; to compose poetry upon; to write or speak poetically about. Hence ˈpoetized ppl. a., ˈpoetizing vbl. sb.; also ˌpoetiˈzation, the action of poetizing, a turning into poetry; also quasi-concr. a poetical version of something; ˈpoetizer, one who poetizes.
1581 Sidney Apol. Poetrie (Arb.) 60 ― Not onely to read others Poesies, but to poetise for others reading. 826 Blackw. Mag. XIX. 355 ― Go over all the poets who have poetized about the sea. 1895 Wales May 240/2 ― A shoemaker from Llandwrog was with me··the person who poetized to Mr. Williams in the Bangor paper. 1939 L. M. Montgomery Anne of Ingleside xxii. 147 ― He doesn’t look clever but he can poetize.
a. The ‘clutch’ or ‘pinch’ of something painful. Formerly often in pl.: Spasms of pain, pangs of grief or affliction. b. An intermittent spasmodic pain in the bowels. Usually pl., colic pains.
@Noah That just seems a weird irrelevant rule. He says that " Hopefully the office will be closed" is wrong because 'hopefully' is modifying a non-living thing?
I said, "Hopefully, I will get better" to a friend and he said that I was using it incorrectly, stating that hopefully is an adverb meaning "full of hope" that modifies a verb. It sounds right, but I'm pretty sure that this usage of hopefully has become prevalent enough to be accepted for this us...
@Noah Your teacher's theory has merit, and I wouldn't like it if people started using new words this way; however, hopefully has been used this way for so long that its meaning has shifted, and I now consider it OK in that sense.
@Mitch 1. intr. To bring the head of a ship nearer to the wind; to steer or sail nearer the wind; to sail in a specified direction with the head kept close to the wind. Also with advs., †by, in, off, to, up, etc. luff round or alee: see quot. 1769.
> 5. trans. To alter the inclination of (the jib of a crane or derrick); to raise or lower in a vertical plane. Also with adverbs, as luff in, to raise (the jib), so moving the hook nearer to the operator; similarly luff out. Hence ˈluffing vbl. sb.; so luffing-in, -out; luffing crane, a crane whose jib can be luffed in operation; luffing-match, a struggle for ‘weather berth’ (between racing yachts).
@MετάEd 1. trans. To make a muddle or ‘mess’ of, to bungle; to perform or play badly or clumsily; to miss (a catch or ball) at cricket or other games. Also intr., to miss catches, to act bunglingly. 2. intr. To fail (in an examination). Hence muffed ppl. a., clumsily missed or bungled; ˈmuffing vbl. sb. and ppl. a.
@Cerberus the adverb is modifying the verb in both intsances. in the instance where it is wrong it is wrong because of the inappropriate use with the verb, not because the (irrelevant) noun is animate or not.
@Mitch By "his idea has merit" I meant "I can see where he's coming from, and perhaps we would have been better off without this feature". I then qualified this by adding that we still have to accept reality and that it is too late to revert this admittedly deviant use of certain -ly adverbs.
@Cerberus Noah's sentence: 'Hopefully, the office will be closed' , the adverb modifies the sentence, so you could equally well 'Hopefully the manager will close the office'. All you examples I don't see as relevant here.
@tchrist whatever, verb, sentence. the important thing is that it's not modifying the adjective, which is what Noah claims his prof has a problem with.
@Mitch Yes. I was just trying to show you how hopeful => hopefully does not work the same was most adverbs do, that it is an (admittedly fairly frequent) anomaly, along with curiously, frankly, etc.
I meant to say that the teacher's theory has merit in that it is indeed anomalous, and I would probably have corrected this usage in 1800. But in 1920 it was probably already too common, and I would have allowed it, nay, used it without restraint—although only with those words where it was commonly considered acceptable.
@Mitch It is normally about the main verb in the sentence, so indirectly about the subject, while it is often about the speaker in the case of certain special adverbs, like hopefully. That is the anomaly.
@tchrist When I first moved to Texas, one of our programmers had to ask several times for me to get him a Phaal before I realized it was a file recovery request. At that point I restored his Phaal to the Phaal server.
One of the guys I sometimes work with is from (and in) Mississippi. It took me forever to understand which eras he was talking about. Hint: it wasn’t epochs or aeons.
> It's easy to identify the Wrong People: They belong to some group we like to look down on (advertising, say, or business people in general), they latch on to any linguistic fad that lumbers down the pike, they don't know their Latin, and they have no respect for The Rules.
English Language & Usage: Multi-Layer…
English Language & Usage: Multi-Layer…