This video claims (at 0:51) that "Noah's provisions on the ark included beer". Is this true? Do we have any scriptural basis for that? I mean, we know that Noah drank some wine after he came out of the ark. However, as far as I remember, the length of

the passage of time between coming out of the ark and drinking wine is not specified there, which means that it was not on the ark, but rather produced after coming out of the ark. But what about beer? Unless there is some subtlety in Hebrew, I don't remember beer mentioned there. Here is the video : news.yahoo.com/who-knew/…

@brilliant Actually, I don't know of anywhere in the Bible where beer is mentioned. If any alcoholic drink, it'd be wine.

@El'endiaStarman yes, that's why that claim on the video kind of surprised me

Unrelated, but 24/7 prayer and worship is awesome. ^_^ :D

@AffableGeek (a) And that makes it better, does it? (b) That incident is hardly the only incident of religious oppression in the Bible. Josiah might be a better example.

I nominate waxeagle for moderator of the month. This closure should be the poster child for the Summer of Love.

@Caleb I nominate you for this closure. (I do feel bad about voting to delete a question about how great God is, but it's not even pretending to be a question.)

@JonEricson rough start in general for the user, but I think they are on the right track

(I hope)

We had a nice run with that OP. We started with an answer that wasn't an answer, went to a question that wasn't a question, then finally got a question that was a question, just a really bad one. (And I'm not convinced the community edit fixed the issue). We're at least trending the right direction with the OP but they need to do some homework (which at their age, might not be a welcome suggestion).

@Caleb not yet. (oh hadn't spotted the age yet, good catch)

@waxeagle Is that field world visible or just a mod thing?

Nevermind. World visible.

@El'endiaStarman You people are weird.

@TRiG Yeah we are. So what? :P

This is bizarre:

Has anyone heard of a theory that it didn't rain before Noah?

@JonEricson yes.

@waxeagle I guess the basis is "When no bush of the field was yet in the land and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up—for the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground, and a mist was going up from the land and was watering the whole face of the ground—"(Genesis 2:5-6 ESV)

it's a pretty common theorem for the YEC movement, firmament -> hydrogen shell (which coincidentally turns the sky pink), keeps the rain from falling

@JonEricson yup, that's the verse that's cited

@waxeagle Interesting.

@JonEricson when the shell breaks up that provides a lot of the rain for the flood

I just stumbled across this ^^^ today. Must be a flood day. ;)

@JonEricson lol yup

@JonEricson not a mainstream YEC theory but it's out there creationwiki.org/Crystalline_canopy

@JonEricson so, I think the really funny thing about this, is that science proves there was a flood, and that flood killed off (and buried) loads of creatures, carbon dating is drastically effected by a major event such as this, where massive amounts of 14C would be removed from the pool of free elements. Radiocarbon dating has no adjustment in the date calibration curve to account for the event

@NathanWheeler That is interesting. I wonder if we should put together a series of blog posts on the Genesis flood.

It's not a particularly highly voted topic, however:

@JonEricson I did a ton of research on it at one time... but it's been quite a while back

@NathanWheeler Yes. That's been my biggest personal pet peeve with "science" since I was in middle school. On one hand it acknowledges certain events as substantiated and others as possible, but as soon as you try to use those as factors in other calculations that is has a vested interest in a certain outcome, it refuses to acknowledge the very same events.

@Caleb yeah, essentially, they throw out the "we don't know how much to calculate for it, so we ignore it" answer... "When CO2 is transferred from the atmosphere to the oceans, it initially shares the 14C concentration of the atmosphere. However, turnaround times of CO2 in the ocean are similar to the half-life of 14C."

and "Volcanic eruptions eject large amount of carbon into the air, causing an increase in 12C and 13C in the exchange reservoir and can vary the exchange ratio locally. This explains the often irregular dating achieved in volcanic areas."

and "Libby's original exchange reservoir hypothesis assumes that the exchange reservoir is constant all over the world." -- all from Wikipedia/Radiocarbon Dating

anyone mind upvoting this comment here

so people are warned instead of just seeing reopen votes and assuming the question is fixed

(I really don't want to overturn a community reopen, but that question needs to stay closed)

@waxeagle Yes. If it reopens, I'll be first in line to re-close.

@waxeagle Just got back from important rant-about-cable-and-network companies conversation or it would have been upvoted sooner. ;)

@JonEricson thanks.

If it's going to be community reopened, we should think about editing it into a passable question even if the OP doesn't do the work. :(

@JonEricson I just might

I invited her to chat so maybe she'll come. It's getting close to wake up time in her tz...

@waxeagle Does she have the rep to join yet? She didn't last time I checked.

@Caleb At 25, she does: christianity.stackexchange.com/privileges/chat

@waxeagle Whatever time wakeup is, their last active time shows they couldn't have been sleeping very long yet.

Oh. Dear. I just got an answer accepted based on the content of a comment, not the answer.

what the....

sounds like the dude is looking for a Halloween costume

@StackExchange "Don't assume we're omnipresent!" My faith is shattered.

@JonEricson we might be in all the chats, but that precludes us being in all the posts :P

@Caleb I'm pretty confident Alex is deliberately winding you up.

He does have a history.

I know his history. I've been the one to moderate a bunch of his previous missives. I think the language barrier is a bigger issue than first glance might show --- but the real mystery is I can't figure out what percentage of really confused messed up human vs what percentage of troll he is. There seems to be some of both. And yes, he might be deliberatly poking my buttons.

@Caleb Does he still have two accounts? I know he used to.

If you think there's some merit in some of his questions, perhaps I should reread them. I've tended to give most of them little more than a glance.

If you think he's more than a troll, perhaps those questions were more interesting than I suspected at first glance.

...

I mean, I know I'm not above winding you up from time to time too, so I can't really take the moral high ground in this area.

@TRiG LOL, is that a confession?

@TRiG I'm not sure they were interesting so much as they could have been legitimate problems with legitimate answers. Although his response to legitimate answers whether from me or anybody else has always been to discredit them / write them off one way or another.

We're striking out on questions today. Somebody please ask a decent question, or even post some decent answers so the front page isn't half rubish.

@TRiG Not that I know of.

@Caleb I burnt my question of the week yesterday. ;-) Let me think...

The one that just came to me was off the wall subjective

(what's the appropriate use of technology in worship)

@Caleb Well, I've never set out to wind up you specifically, if that's what you're asking.

@waxeagle We already did that one. I campaigned to have it tossed out on it's ear. Back before they appointed protems....

@Caleb figures, even the bad ones area already taken :P

One of today's low points has been having to put together next years budget. It's almost tomorrow and it's not done. Why am I still here?

One of today's high has been this free gem that just dropped.

The book Vicars of Christ mentions that the Pope is the only Protestant in the Catholic Church. The book Empty Pews maintains that most of the Catholic laity are actually Protestant. Unfortunately, I have neither book to hand, so I can't actually quote from them.

But I may one day be able to wrangle a question out of that dichotomy.

@TRiG I'm certainly intrigued.

I should really start reading either my Boice book, or the Institutes so I have some decent questions :)

@waxeagle Empty Pews is a study of how the levels of religion in Ireland changed so rapidly. It's interesting, but I've not read it all and have mislaid the book. Vicars of Christ is a less-than-complimentary history of the papacy, which I read a good few years ago.

@waxeagle And my current reading is The Silmarillian at home, and Catcher in the Rye at lunchtime during the week. I suspect I'll not be getting many questions out of them. (The question about the Music of the Ainur has, to my surprise, already been asked.)

@TRiG But not well, in my opinion.

@JonEricson Or mine. I was a little disappointed actually because it's something I'd contemplated before, but the stuff there didn't do anything to clarify the potential sanity or insanity of the idea.

Hey! Can someone tell me how to award some bounty on a particularly great answer?

@AffableGeek Add bounty to question (anyone can do that), then award to the answer?

@AffableGeek Bounties

@AffableGeek theres an option "award existing answer" when you set a bounty