TeX, LaTeX and Friends

Harish Kumar

12:14 AM

Paulo Cereda

@egreg: 120k! Congrats! :)

Hi @Harish! :)

Harish Kumar

Hi @PauloCereda: Good evening.

Paulo Cereda

@HarishKumar And good morning. :)

Time shifts FTW. :)

Harish Kumar

@PauloCereda: :)

@Paulo:

The description:
Habitat: Mexico, Bolivia, and parts of Brazil. Rainforest, edge of water. Amazon Rainforest.

Diet: Mainly insects.

Facts: The Royal flycatcher belongs to the Tyrannidae family of birds (the Tyrant flycatchers).

They are about 6 1/2 inches in length.

The Royal flycatcher, like many flycatchers, likes to dart out from branches to catch flying insects or pluck them from leaves.

Their nests are pretty unusual. They build a long nest (sometimes up to 6 feet) on a branch near water. The nest hangs over the water. It is hard for predators to reach.

Paulo Cereda

Oh my!

If I tell you the name of this bird in Portuguese. :)

@AlanMunn: Harish posted a photo of a Royal Flycatcher. Do you know the common name of this bird in Portuguese? It's another witty name, like beija-flor and joão-de-barro: it's called maria-leque. :)

ℝaphink

12:29 AM

r.pinson.free.fr/calvary/pdf/bonnenouvelle.pdf — typography (and more) feedback/comments welcome :-)

Code is at github.com/cc-translators/bonnenouvelle for the curious :-)

@AndrewStacey I'm usually adding my own code to github, but I might contribute at some point.

Paulo Cereda

@ℝaphink Very nice to read the Magnificat in French. :) I think it's a beautiful language. :)

ℝaphink

:)

Paulo Cereda

Beautiful document, congrats!

ℝaphink

Thanks. It's not finished yet, I just began today.

The hard part is the epigraph part. Some epigraphs are very small, some very big

So it's hard to decide on how to typeset them

Harish Kumar

@PauloCereda: I have trouble uploading pictures in blog. I used pdf file and it shows the link insted of picture in the preview. Any ideas?

Paulo Cereda

12:39 AM

@HarishKumar I'm afraid the blog system only allows JPG images, so you will need to printscreen your document. :)

Harish Kumar

@PauloCereda: Oh. Is it? Good to know. Then no problem. I can convert it into jpg. I am using upload/insert (Add media tool to upload. I hope that is the way to upload images too.

Paulo Cereda

@HarishKumar It is, you are in the right path. :)

Harish Kumar

@PauloCereda: Thanks. That's great. Moving nano meter by nano meter ahead! :)

Paulo Cereda

@HarishKumar :)

Harish Kumar

@PauloCereda: Yay. It works. Thank Paulo. You are the single ray of light in pitch darkness.

Paulo Cereda

12:47 AM

@HarishKumar Me?! No, I always get lost in the darkness. :P

Harish Kumar

@PauloCereda: There is always darkness under the lamp. You give light to others :)

Paulo Cereda

@HarishKumar <3

Andrew Stacey

8:41 AM

@ℝaphink My "policy" (such as it is) is to add people when they have code to upload (and there's ill-definied criteria relating to activity on the site - which you obviously satisfy). Otherwise, I'd quickly lose track of who had rights to upload to the repository. So you're welcome to use it, but I'll wait until you actually want to before giving you commit rights. Just let me know when you do and I'll approve that application.

ℝaphink

@AndrewStacey Alright :-)

Andrew Stacey

10:24 AM

I noticed another "How do I install package X?" question so figured I'd better get on and ask the consolidating question as proposed on meta. Could a kindly moderator please make it CW? (@JosephWright, perchance)

Joseph Wright

@AndrewStacey Done

Also added as a favourite: this one comes up a lot!

Andrew Stacey

@JosephWright Thanks. I think I only got 5 reputation from it before you hit it with the hammer. I'll find another question worthy of a bounty to spend that on.

Joseph Wright

@AndrewStacey Probably me upvoting it :-)

Andrew Stacey

@JosephWright We should at least now link all the previous versions of this question to that one, and see if there's any information there that we've overlooked. Should we go so far as to close-as-duplicate?

Joseph Wright

@AndrewStacey Might be useful: gives us a 'thread' for searching. For example, tex.stackexchange.com/questions/73013/… is new but is now a dupe, I guess

Paulo Cereda

10:29 AM

Guys, I have a talk on LaTeX for CS students in October! :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Cool

@PauloCereda UK-TUG slides!

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Exactly my plan. :P

I might need to extend it a little, it will be a 3 hour talk.

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda That's a long talk! My slides are for an all-day session, but 'hands on'. I think Nicola Talbot's website might have some more material (she wrote the original for the UK-TUG stuff)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright Oh thanks, I'll take a look.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda I was planning to talk for at least 5 hours at uktug

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Joseph Wright

10:44 AM

@DavidCarlisle Fine with me

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Oh my! :)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle You might yet be asked to join the committee (or at least to nominate people)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright New slogan for the UK-TUG meeting: "UK-TUG proudly presents 'Mr. Carlisle's fantastic TeX machine'" :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda Actually I was planning just to list all the horrible things people have said about me in tex.sx chat, that should take several hours, I'm sure it'll make an interesting talk given a suitably sympathetic audience

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Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Oh no! :)

@David: I'll intercalate the UK-TUG slides with pictures of ducks.

Brent.Longborough

11:14 AM

@egreg Spot on; and, at midnight (symbolic midnight in my case) the golden carriage tursn back into a pumpkin.

egreg

@Brent.Longborough These young people don't know the basics. :)

Brent.Longborough

@egreg Young enough everything still to know they are

Paulo Cereda

12:43 PM

I need to find a song to put in the arara 3 showcase video. :)

egreg

@PauloCereda Bibbidi-Bobbidi-Boo? But I'm afraid it's copyrighted.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg ooh! :)

egreg

@PauloCereda abtechno.org/index.php/2008/03/13/…

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Wow! Downloading all of them! :)

@egreg: I thought of using the same song of this video: youtube.com/watch?v=2oQgZqBmuo4 :P

egreg

@PauloCereda "La vie en rose"? (No, it's not the song in the video, I know)

Paulo Cereda

12:54 PM

@egreg ooh a nice choice, Edith Piaf FTW! :)

egreg

@PauloCereda Last year I went to "Père Lachaise" and visited her tomb. There's also Henri Salvador, nearby.

Andrew Stacey

@PauloCereda Since tex.stackexchange.com/q/24785/86 just got linked from a new question, how about an arara solution?

egreg

@AndrewStacey +1

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Henri Salvador was fantastic, he contributed to the creation of the bossa nova style. :)

@AndrewStacey Sure! :) It might be a good opportunity to highlight the new features. :)

Gonzalo Medina

This can be closed as duplicate tex.stackexchange.com/q/73021/3954

Paulo Cereda

1:05 PM

Voted. :)

ℝaphink

Closed

Andrew Stacey

1:41 PM

@egreg I think that jon's point was as to the order of searching: does kpathsea always search the user's directory first, or is there some configuration that determines the order of searching (and if so is there a way to get kpathsea to tell it to you without reading configuration files)?

egreg

@AndrewStacey The order of search is what's specified in TEXMF, which is slightly more complex than "first TEXMFHOME, then TEXMFLOCAL, then TEXMFDIST". Problems usually arise when mktexlsr has not been run.

David Carlisle

@egreg you meean like

$ kpsexpand \$TEXINPUTS
.:{/home/davidc/.texlive2012/texmf-config,/home/davidc/.texlive2012/texmf-var,/home/davidc/texmf,!!/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-config,!!/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-var,!!/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf,!!/usr/local/texlive/2012/../texmf-local,!!/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist}/tex/{kpsewhich,generic,}//

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Yes, it's TEXINPUTS, but this only adds to TEXMF.

David Carlisle

@egreg adds? if you use kpsexpand rather than expand the actual shell variable isn't that all the places tex will look?

echo $TEXINPUTS
is empty

egreg

@DavidCarlisle I mean that the value of TEXINPUTS is usually built upon TEXMF.

@DavidCarlisle Of course: the TEX... variables exist only for kpathsea, unless explicitly set in the environment and in this case kpathsea uses the set value, possibly adding the internal one if a trailing or leading colon appears (or a :: in the middle).

Andrew Stacey

1:53 PM

So is kpsexpand \$TEXINPUTS the reliable one? And in the right order?

David Carlisle

@egreg yes but I didn't understand the question (maybe I should go and find the original qn on site) because kpsexpand appears to be the answer

egreg

@AndrewStacey kpsewhich -var-value TEXINPUTS is the best syntax

Joseph Wright

@egreg Two -, surely?

egreg

kpsexpand calls kpsewhich anyway. One or two hyphens is immaterial.

David Carlisle

@AndrewStacey yes the \$ is or is not needed depending on your command line of course

egreg

1:55 PM

@DavidCarlisle That's why the -var-value switch is handier

David Carlisle

@egreg well everyone should use bash

egreg

@DavidCarlisle I'm tempted to switch to fish

David Carlisle

@AndrewStacey to read the result the user has to know that // means recursive and !! means must be in texhash

Andrew Stacey

@DavidCarlisle tex.stackexchange.com/a/73017/86

The syntax is not all that helpful! The brace grouping makes it tricky to see what's going on - particularly with the recursive part.

David Carlisle

@AndrewStacey the syntax is designed to be easy to specify directories for a computer to read back, not for a human to read back:-) The {} is similar to {} expansion in bash.

egreg

1:59 PM

@AndrewStacey If you want to see the search in action, you can run kpsewhich -debug 48 <filename>

Joseph Wright

Most of the time all of this is not really needed: is it really sensible to include it in a basic guide to installing stuff?

Harish Kumar

@AndrewStacey: It will be useful if some one adds a similar answer for texlive in windows. May be @JosephWright?

Joseph Wright

@HarishKumar The rather complicated business about TeX Live's search system

Harish Kumar

@JosephWright :)

Andrew Stacey

@JosephWright I've added a "testing the installation" section where we can put more information about paths - I think that there's enough scope for stuff to go wrong that we can at least point people in the right direction without overwhelming them with information.

ℝaphink

2:06 PM

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Q: Section open right in scrbook

Using scrbook, I would like sections to open on a new odd page, like chapters do. How can I achieve that?

Andrew Stacey

@JosephWright Also I think that the comment thread there should be deleted to keep the question "clean". @DavidCarlisle Did I do an okay job at explaining how to read the syntax? I agree it's obvious if you've seen similar, but probably most people haven't.

ℝaphink

I'm pretty sure this is trivial, but I couldn't find it…

Joseph Wright

@AndrewStacey Done

Andrew Stacey

@JosephWright I've added a comment on commenting to the question.

egreg

@ℝaphink Look, ma! No packages. :)

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Joseph Wright

2:14 PM

@AndrewStacey I have a feeling you'll get some badges for the question :-)

David Carlisle

@AndrewStacey will look, got distracted by, day job:-)

Paulo Cereda

@egreg :)

ℝaphink

that's a tie

it's kind of what I expected, so I have to add that to my class :-)

egreg

@AndrewStacey I'd say that texhash is obsolete (and in TeX Live it's an alias to mktexlsr)

Joseph Wright

2:30 PM

@egreg Odd: I'd say that calling something mktexlsr was a strange choice. texhash is a lot more memorable.

egreg

@JosephWright All the main scripts are called mktex...

Joseph Wright

@egreg Doesn't make it a good interface choice

@egreg 'lsr' is much less obvious than 'hash'

egreg

@JosephWright Tell it to Karl. :)

Joseph Wright

@egreg Also, when do you ever need any of the other scripts in day-to-day work?

@egreg :-)

I've 'reverse duped' several of the 'install on Linux' questions to the new one: point to any others, and I'll do the same :-)

Andrew Stacey

Added a note on mktexlsr and texhash, also put the umask stuff in the sudo note.

@JosephWright Two so far - one for the question and one for the answer.

Joseph Wright

2:43 PM

@AndrewStacey :-)

ℝaphink

@percusse: I've shamelessly used your idea for my new layout :) r.pinson.free.fr/calvary/pdf/bonnenouvelle.pdf

percusse

3:24 PM

@ℝaphink I could only have reminded you that style. You are much more able than me when it comes to page design. I just immitate stuff that I see. It looks wonderful. I might get carried away if I use it for daily lab reports. Most of them would end with poems....

ℝaphink

hehe

percusse

note to myself : don't load hyperref after the TikZ patterns library. It spits out corrupted PDF. (maybe it's particular to memoir class case)

Marco Daniel

4:00 PM

@PauloCereda: You got mail.

Paulo Cereda

@MarcoDaniel Love it. :)

I'll reply later on today. :)

Marco Daniel

@PauloCereda No problem.

Paulo Cereda

@MarcoDaniel We miss you here. :)

Marco Daniel

@PauloCereda At the moment I am preparing for PMP (see mail ;-) ). But I will be back soon.

Paulo Cereda

:)

Andrew Stacey

4:16 PM

Apparently \bigup is undefined. Seems wrong somehow.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda, just installed a new browser you should like it yellow bird themed (chrome canary) Hmph the name completion on @ doesn't work...

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh it's the Aurora-like stuff for Chrome, isn't it? :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda more nightly-like than aurora-like but yes.

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Ah cool!

@DavidCarlisle: how many browsers do you have installed, of course, apart from emacs? :)

David Carlisle

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Paulo Cereda

4:22 PM

awwww

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda firefox stable, firefox nightly, chrome dev, chrome canary, IE 9, IE 10, Safari stable, webkit nightly, Opera stable Opera (some random dev preview from a while back) Then special purpose browsers like the matlab one (a couple of versions) probably amaya somehere. That's on this laptop, but mostly I use the laptop as an X server to access the linux network:-)

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Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Wow!

David Carlisle

forgot lynx

Joseph Wright

5:11 PM

@DavidCarlisle :-)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle I used lynx a lot via SSH when I had to download papers from the IEEE portal into my remote machine. :)

percusse

Don't mention that institute! If ever, ever egain... (?!)

Is it OK to reject a paper because they've used to word novel 13 times in 11 pages?

Marco Daniel

5:26 PM

@JosephWright: What do you think about this argumentation: tex.stackexchange.com/a/73058/5239 ?

egreg

@MarcoDaniel It's faulty. :)

Paulo Cereda

@percusse I'm \documentclass[journal]{IEEEtran}'ing right now. :P

Marco Daniel

@egreg Indeed

Paulo Cereda

I need a smaller screen for my Mac. There are like zillions of things open at the same time. :)

Brent.Longborough

@DavidCarlisle Yess! Are there any other browsers?

@PauloCereda You're doing it wrong...

Paulo Cereda

5:35 PM

@Brent.Longborough :)

percusse

@PauloCereda Do I have to post the same image again?

Military Macaw

The Military Macaw (Ara militaris) is a large parrot and a medium-sized member of the macaw genus. Though considered vulnerable as a wild species, it is still commonly found in the pet trade industry. A predominantly green bird, it is found in the forests of Mexico, Brazil, Boliva, South America Taxonomy There are three subspecies, A. m. militaris, A. m. mexicana, and A. m. boliviana. The differences between the subspecies are slight and pertain to minor variations in color and size, generally , with the militaris subspecies being the smallest and the mexicana being the largest. Descri...

Paulo Cereda

@percusse <3

percusse

I swear I'll send you 10 SWAT araras...

Paulo Cereda

@percusse Oh no!

egreg

ctan.org/pkg/chickenize :)

percusse

5:41 PM

Tot later jongens! :P

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Oh my! texdoc chickenize

egreg

@PauloCereda It's wonderful! And perhaps also useful!

Canageek

Fast question for someone; What is the default font size in LaTeX?

egreg

@Canageek 10pt

Canageek

@egreg Thanks, I wanted to respond to a comment on johndcook.com/blog/2012/09/15/the-paper-is-too-big and didn't want to misremeber (I thought it was 11 pt to be honest)

Marco Daniel

5:48 PM

@Canageek depends on the document class (I believe)

egreg

@MarcoDaniel All classes I know set 10pt as default.

Marco Daniel

@egreg beamer?

egreg

@MarcoDaniel That's a different beast, of course.

Marco Daniel

@egreg ;-)

Canageek

So, Egreg, Paulo, did you see my wish has been answered? mail-archive.com/ctan-ann@dante.de/msg05047.html

Marco Daniel

5:51 PM

I had sworn that book uses 11pt ;-)

Canageek

ctan.mirror.rafal.ca/help/Catalogue/entries/svg.html

SVG in LaTeX. I wish that had been out a couple of summers ago; I was using ROOT graphs in LaTeX. I emailed it to my old research group though, hope they can get some use out of it.

pokes #@PauloCereda and @egreg with a stick

egreg

@Canageek It's quite nice, but I've not yet tried it.

Canageek

@egreg Too bad I'm just using LaTeX to typeset boring pages of text right now.

Actually, does anyone have any fun tricks I could play with while still looking vaugly professional?

egreg

@Canageek Then chickenize is what you're looking for!

Canageek

@egreg But LuaTeX is scary....

Would the following be a bad CW post:

"What are some fun things I can play with, while leaving my document still looking reasonably professional"?

egreg

6:02 PM

Lorem ipsum Chicken sit amet, Chicken adipiscing elit.

Canageek

It seems like a fun way of learning some LaTeX tricks that might be a bit more useful then randomly sloping text around on a page

Paulo Cereda

@Canageek I might try that later. :) Though I usually prefer to use .pdf files as images. :)

@egreg chickenlipsum :)

Canageek

@PauloCereda I think SVG is easier to manipulate though, as you don't have to worry about pageboarders and such. Also, means you can use the same file on the web and to make the LaTeX document.

egreg

This is a kantlipsum paragraph: "Chicken is shown Chicken the Chicken of Chicken the Chicken in themselves (and Chicken remains a Chicken why this is the Chicken are a Chicken Chicken time..."

And this is really philosophic: Human reason depends on Chicken sense

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Paulo Cereda

@egreg LOL

Canageek

6:07 PM

@PauloCereda Also, we were using ROOT, which this package has special options for. I bet the person writing it is in physics.

Hah. The prof in the lecture I'm in just put up this picture: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Edwin_Hubble_with_pipe.jpg and said "This is Edwin Hubble sitting in his office. We (Physicists I guess) no longer look like this; we no longer have suits or pipes."

Stop looking at me like this; I took the sequal to this class already, so it is a little bit (lot) basic for me so far.

Paulo Cereda

@Canageek Nothing against the format. :) Not my cup of tea though.

Canageek

@PauloCereda What is the upside of PDF?

Paulo Cereda

@Canageek Well, I like it.

I can virtually print everything to PDF and then obtain a scalable file to be included in my stuff. Heiko's PDF manipulation tools are like a breeze to use and do wonders.

Canageek

Gotta go

Paulo Cereda

@Canageek See ya! :)

@egreg: I'll write a arara rule for chickenize. :)

Gonzalo Medina

6:48 PM

I am starting to lose my patience with this question tex.stackexchange.com/q/73072/3954

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina I couldn't understand what the OP really wants.

Gonzalo Medina

@PauloCereda me neither :-( he shows some drawings with chapter numbers; now he doesn't want the numbers.

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina :(

@GonzaloMedina: in other news, when you have some time, could you be online on GTalk? I'd like to ask you something. :)

Gonzalo Medina

:6197776 Ha! So now you don't have to \rotatebox. ¡Bien!

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina :P

Gonzalo Medina

6:57 PM

@PauloCereda right now if you want.

Paulo Cereda

@GonzaloMedina Thanks! :)

Torbjørn T.

7:10 PM

@egreg The KOMA-classes use 11pt, according to the English manual.

egreg

@TorbjørnT. Really? That's appalling. :)

Torbjørn T.

@egreg Indeed, 'tis so. (See section 3.5.)

egreg

@JosephWright This seems like a software feature request; I don't think there's much that can be done on the TeX or TeXShop side.

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Q: Displaying Citations In Live Preview Generated by Flashmode

Is there any way to modify the functionality of Flashmode or TeXshop so that the live preview will correctly display citations without having to manually run BibTeX? I'm using the most recent versions of Flashmode and TeXshop on Mac OS X 10.7.4.

bibtex texshop preview

Joseph Wright

@egreg Probably: wanted to give it a bit more exposure (it's flagged) to be sure

tohecz

7:50 PM

Good evening/afternoon/morning

egreg

@tohecz Where are you? I've lost track. :)

tohecz

@egreg 15`\textsuperscript{e}` arr., Paris, France, Europe, Earth, Solar System, Milky Way

egreg

@tohecz Folies parisiennes!

tohecz

@egreg oui oui

egreg

@tohecz Quel métro? Can you see the Tour Eiffel?

tohecz

7:58 PM

@egreg No I can't. I temporarily live near Vaugirard and my school is near Chevaleret

Stephan Lehmke

@egreg Well for a one-column document on A4 paper there are really only unsatisfactory solutions to choose from...

tohecz

@StephanLehmke (with letterpaper being no better)

egreg

@tohecz Not so many things to see there, I believe. But you're very near to the very center.

tohecz

@egreg yes, I'm now nart the center, but I'll be moving. I stay in a flat of my supervisor that his not his

I'm supposed to get a student dormitory room, but it's really not sure. Any other option below 500 EUR / month with be outside Paris

Stephan Lehmke

@tohecz If the student dormitory I had in Toulouse in '96 was in any way typical, this will be an adventurous experience ;-)

tohecz

8:03 PM

@StephanLehmke I hope I'll get a room at CIUP (Cite international universitaire de Paris). It costs around 500 EUR (which is not a small money), but it's quite high quality and close to my Uni :)

(high quality = all facilities shared with many people, but you have a single room)

Stephan Lehmke

@tohecz Wow 500,- is really expensive :-( I hope you have a grant which is paying for this...

tohecz

8:26 PM

@StephanLehmke I have a scholarship which is 760. Plus I have (gladly) government-paid health insurance and I can (maybe) get some housing money support

percusse

10:27 PM

►

:P

Paulo Cereda

11:21 PM

@percusse LOL "Gestures, gestures!"

newprint

Hi !

I am new user Tex user

Paulo Cereda

'ello! :)

newprint

don't want to post question on the main board

Paulo Cereda

How nice! Welcome to the TeX club! :) How's been your experience so far? :)

percusse

@newprint Did you send your monthly payments yet as a new user?

newprint

11:24 PM

is it possible to have live preview in Texmaker

percusse

@newprint Why not? :)

Paulo Cereda

@percusse shhhhh :P

newprint

@PauloCereda terrible

Paulo Cereda

I don't know TeXmaker. But maybe we can investigate. :)

newprint

Does the Tex tools in general have preview

percusse

11:26 PM

@newprint There are some tools that offer this (I'm not sure about them because I don't use it) but some of them offer live preview of the DVI output and some gives directly PDF output. Or at least it was like that when I last used it.

newprint

I was able to gen. PDF

but clicking PDF everytime is nightmare !!!!!

percusse

In general it makes the software slower as it tries to keep up with the changes whenever you pause for a second.

You mean changing the window to the PDF reader?

newprint

@percusse there is a button "view PDF"

percusse

Ah, I see, for the internal previewer I suppose.

newprint

ye, I guess, not the Adobe reader

percusse

11:32 PM

@newprint Well, I think it's better to ask you why you want a live preview than showing my ignorance about it.

Usually, people tend to avoid it. But apparently you have a reason.

newprint

I am mathematica user !!!!!!

that is why )))

percusse

I use it too so that might not be the reason.

newprint

I don't know Tex (just basics, that let me type questions in Math.StackEx)

and often I find myself struggling, if I don't see preview of what I type

percusse

@newprint Sure. I understand but the same is also valid for Mathematica syntax (I truly hate it). You have to nest 45(?!) brackets to get it right so there is some affinity required anyhow.

Paulo Cereda

@percusse (I (still (love (Lisp)))). :)

percusse

11:38 PM

@PauloCereda heheh

Paulo Cereda

The TeX ideal is more of WYMISYG: what you mean is what you get. :)

percusse

@newprint But as you might have noticed if things get a little longer in Math.SE, that also starts to get sluggish for the update. So it shows another annoyance.

I don't want to promote it but maybe LyX is a good tool for you.

newprint

is it similar to Tex or it is totally different system ?

J G

Either of you R users?

newprint

@J 5 years ago, I forgot most of the stuff by now

sorry

J G

11:42 PM

@newprint Thanks. I cannot even figure out how to run some code!

percusse

@newprint It's like the HTML editors, you write things and insert stuff and in the background it produces the necessary code. Personally I think it's a little limited but can provide the initial kick.

newprint

cool, downloading it right now

you right, it looks like HTML/Mathematica editor (just watched small video)

Thanks a lot !!!

percusse

@newprint No problem. But please don't get addicted to it :-) You'll start to feel its shortcomings when you start to change things around.

newprint

Thing is, it is fine. All I need, is to type short homeworks

nothing too fancy

percusse

@newprint What I mean is that when you want to just push a matrix to the left and a fraction to the right etc. and LyX will start to get in your way. Otherwise it's really handy for straightforward use.

newprint

11:50 PM

Appreciate for all your help. Thanks ! I will keep your advice in mind.

percusse

@newprint Good luck and don't forget to search the site for gazillion of LyX questions.

Paulo Cereda

@newprint: we hope you like this place. :) We are a very friendly community. :)

newprint

Is Tex primarily used in Academia ? or there is a commercial use as well ?

Paulo Cereda

@newprint Both. :) You can find TeX being used on a lot of places. :)

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Q: Showcase of beautiful typography done in TeX & friends

If you were asked to show examples of beautifully typeset documents in TeX & friends, what would you suggest? Preferably documents available online (I'm aware I could go to a bookstore and find many such documents called 'books'). Extra bonus for documents whose LaTeX source is available. Th...

typography big-list examples

percusse

Also this

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Q: LaTeX in Industry

I know LaTeX is used a lot in academia to format papers and dissertations. How is LaTeX used in industry and what are some examples? I am wondering whether knowing LyX will give me a leverage when applying to jobs.

lyx latex-project

Paulo Cereda

11:58 PM

@percusse Thanks! I was looking in the wrong tag! big-list tricked me. :)

percusse

@PauloCereda Should we tag that too?

Paulo Cereda

@percusse I dunno. Where's @lockstep when we need him? :)

percusse

@PauloCereda He's definitely spoiled us.

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