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12:08 PM
oh no...i'm in that part of youtube that's totally awesome, but you have to be a little unstable to appreciate...
example:
 
jrg
INSANITY FEST.
 
nobody said i was stable...
i'm strictly an alpha release of the perfect human
 
jrg
I'm not going to lie, Heath Ledger scares the living daylights out of me. :P
 
that was another fail joke
 
jrg
lol
 
12:22 PM
@jrg I like his magic trick with the pencil :D
 
it's only critical because there's an anticipated gksu prompt
@jokerdino heh yeah i like that bit too
 
he was quite a beast in the movie.
 
Hello all
 
> Your general IQ score is: 141
yay, improved!
 
i thought he played the character well...sadly he ended up committing suicide shortly thereafter
 
12:25 PM
@aking1012 yeah it was quite sad. wait, he committed suicide?
 
he died of drug overdose. i suspect suicide
there will never be confirmation though
 
Hmm. Poor guy.
 
well he did a great job of getting in the wrong headspace
 
IIRC, he is the only one that got a posthumous oscar.
 
Its raining
@aking1012 Poor Guy.
 
12:28 PM
You and jokerdino said the same thing. I think it's more upsetting that someone who had the world at their feet ended themselves. Leaves a lot of room for introspection and wondering why
 
yeah. may be he took his character too personally..
TBF, his character was really moving.
 
this is true on both parts
 
I like Lubuntu now. Very silent and nice.
spoke too soon >.>
 
kk will silence myself. i thought i was maintaining nice though.
 
hmm it was not related to you at all.
i was in my room and then moved to the prep room.
change in setting --> change in thought process
 
12:40 PM
is ok. just thought it might have been a polite way to say shut up
 
uh. i never meant it that way :/
 
kk. just being overly defensive
 
lol alright then.
the kk reminds me of Mahesh. he uses double ?? or !! and I find it a little hilarious.
 
lol
 
who uses Firefox and has suggestions for good addons for me?
 
1:07 PM
i still haven't finished the blog post. gets back to finishing things.
 
jrg
@jokerdino @aking1012 Ledger did the "immersion" style of acting, where he lived like his character, and in many ways became his character.
its one of the most effective acting skills, but also the most emotionally trying. It's no wonder he snapped. :(
 
jrg
1:24 PM
I think it's time to package nmap 6 for 12.04...
 
jrg
1:55 PM
@aking1012 you might already know about this PPA... - launchpad.net/~pi-rho/+archive/security
just found it while looking for nmap, looks like it has a fair amount of stuff in there that looks useful.
 
Login screen - set default user http://askubuntu.com/questions/157133/login-screen-set-default-user?atw=1 #login
 
2:27 PM
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Q: Disabling email for an account

dl__I have an amazon ec2 instance running ubuntu. There are only a couple of user accounts and the server is used to host a small web app. Apparently, by default, each user account has an email account. We do not use these accounts. Recently I discovered that one of the accounts is receiving "undeli...

 
2:40 PM
hmmm.... anybody up for doing someone elses homework... ;) askubuntu.com/questions/157098/help-with-bash-script-with-text
 
+1 for being honest that it is a homework.
 
yawn
 
jrg
Bash? That's got a perl or lispish feel to it.
 
or a combo
its reminiscent of one of those esoteric languages i was looking at
 
Hi all :)
 
2:50 PM
heya
@fossfreedom enzotib is the man for these questions.
 
@jrg careful when suggesting PPAs, you know what dangers they can have
 
@emiT-fo-droL: I've seen that!
 
Not sure if this is good news or otherwise.. omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/06/…
 
jrg
@LordofTime You think I just suggest PPAs without thinking about it?
 
nope, just making sure you know :P
 
jrg
2:53 PM
Only reason I didn't include the normal "OMG THIS COULD DESTROY EVERYTHING" warning is because I know aking knows the risks.
 
@jrg It... sorta.
@LordofTime running joke.
3 hours ago, by jokerdino
it was funny.. sorta
start from there --^
 
@jokerdino ah
 
3:08 PM
i only need 21 more rep before i hit 4k rep
:/
 
I hitted 2k, today
 
@LordofTime you want upvotes, or what?
 
if yuo want, i'm actually just complaining about how close i am to 4k
but with nothing else to ask or answer :/
 
@LordofTime do you have anything you can accept?
 
@LordofTime ... I need 45,600 ... upvote me please ;)
 
3:11 PM
lol
 
100.000 is nice to see.
 
Okay,
No offense...
 
@Takkat possibly, but i have to test the solutions to this askubuntu.com/questions/156850/…
@Roland whining is bad
 
But... seriously Canonical?
 
jrg
@RolandTaylor whats going on this time?
 
3:12 PM
1 sec
And "this time"... har har...
 
jrg
Take a chill pill bro.
 
They took what, two months almost? To give this canned response?
 
jrg
@RolandTaylor oh, so they won't answer your specific question?
Two months, including a UDS. :P
 
Yeah I was expecting a real person would give a real answer or at least if they don't understand my question, say so.
 
jrg
that and you don't have a @dell.com email address, or a @hp.com... so you're like "lol this guy is nuts :D"
 
3:14 PM
Oh yeah that's true :)
Okay now I'm off to roam the internet :)
Just had to point out how warm and fuzzy that response made me feel.
 
lo and behold... my reputation is now over 4k
4,001
reputation
 
grats
 
now i just need to take time to get 1k more rep
then i can do tag wiki stuffs
 
You think you can.
 
jrg
TAG WIKI ALLLLL THE THINGS!
 
3:17 PM
Approve or reject tag wiki edits <-- Reputation Required: 5000
 
jrg
Seriously though, we have really cruddy tag wikis.
 
Approving or rejecting is boring. Improving would rule
 
show me a few
i'll try and spruce them up
... after i stop having a lagspike
 
jrg
We need tag wikis like this one. - stackoverflow.com/tags/php/info
 
@jrg that's a tag library
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3:20 PM
i could do that for our php if you wanted
unless ours is already good
 
jrg
I was just using that as an example of what a good tag wiki looks like.
 
we should clone the stackoverflow tag wikis :P
</evil>
 
Why can't we cross-link tag wikis over SE sites?
 
yay awesome idea!
man, Roland came in and almost derailed my rant.
 
jrg
For example, our tag would have links to how to set up apache, install Postgres, install Node.js, Rails, common things like that.
 
3:22 PM
I was so furious that my hall mistress misplaced my report book and now claims that I never even showed her mine.
I was almost going to burn her house down.
 
jrg
ouch. :(
 
What is a "hall mistress"? That sounds evil.
 
She never even admitted there is a possibility that she might have forgotten.
 
@Takkat Hall master / mistress. I am in a boarding school.
 
3:25 PM
They care about you not doing anything they don't want you to do?
 
Especially since I passed my book almost a month ago and she remarked reading my comments. And then she went overseas and now this whole incident happened.
 
@jrg, so if I clone the StackOverflow PHP tag wiki data, would it be accepted here?
 
jrg
@LordofTime no.
I'm holding it up as an example of what a real tag wiki looks like.
 
@Takkat wait what? Simple English for now please.
 
Mistress: "Stop doing that, Joker!!!"
 
3:27 PM
(Makes me realize you can't think well when you are angry.)
 
@jokerdino lol
 
@Takkat Probably. I offered her to check for my book in her house. She didn't let me.
She claimed she was systematical and so there is no chance she lost the book.
So, indirectly it is my fault for passing my book to her.
 
Ouch - that sounds serious.
 
She started hinting that I voluntarily got rid of the book and now blaming her.
 
Don't give books to squirrels.
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3:30 PM
Why oh why would I lose my book?!?
Especially when I have to shell out more money to buy a replacement?
 
It's not lost - it's only a .book.
 
@Takkat Fair point. It is a matter of time before my book appears in her eyes and then let's see how she reacts.
 
mv .book book
 
heh :P
 
@jrg can i do incremental improvements? improve upon what already exists, then continue to improve over the next few days? (since it'll be a few days before i make another improvement to include questions/tutorials about setup of various packages and what not that exist on the ubuntu wiki and stuff)
 
3:32 PM
what made me rage is she refused to check at all. Even the greatest man can misplace simple things. But she was soooooo adamant that she ruled that out straightaway.
And then started yelling at me.
 
jrg
@LordofTime sure, you might run into a system limitation, but I don't think so.
 
For goodness sake, she doesn't realize she is almost 70 years old and she can forget things.
</raging rant>
 
She forgets that she forgets.
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Don't blame her for that.
 
@Takkat lol :P
 
@jrg i'm going to give a (brief) overview of what can be installed by the Server installernow, and then also provide links to how-tos for some of the software you mentioned in addition to the core programs i state (that's giong to come later, i'm going to have to dredge up those items, most of which exists on the ubuntu wiki and not here)
 
3:35 PM
Thanks for listening to my rant. Things that I couldn't say at her face have been said here. Phew.
 
your rant has displeased me.
just because it was a rant.
 
yeah, your turn to rant then.
 
jrg
@LordofTime keep in mind that if you think it deserves a dedicated Q&A, go right ahead.
 
@jrg indeed, i may do that later ;P
but the tag wiki should still be improved
posting phase 1 of the improvements now.
(no links yet, i'll get those later)
(probably tomorrow)
 
You better attribute it properly. Or else others will reject it as plagiarism.
 
3:38 PM
@jokerdino i wrote this myself, not from a wiki
 
that's better.
 
lets let @jrg decide though
has a rolling-changes version in a text file on his phone
oooh! LUNCHTIME!
FOOD!!! COFFEE!!!!!!! MUST... OBTAIN...!
 
jrg
real 3m58.788s
user 0m15.781s
sys 0m2.064s

Welcome to hell.
 
@jrg hehe
anyways, time for food.
 
jrg
Almost 4 minutes for redmine to do a database migration.
 
3:48 PM
She now comes back to my room to say that she has no reason to keep my book and that I should have it with me somewhere. <facepalm>
She doesn't want to rest the matter. Sigh
anyway, good night for the day. I am tired of this nonsense.
 
Hello AskUbuntu Armada
 
Hello.
 
Heya @GeorgeEdison
 
Could someone please upvote this?
 
4:07 PM
@GeorgeEdison wow what a bounty!
 
@GeorgeEdison There was something
It's better if you use Gnome Shell's native extensions
 
@GeorgeEdison I think I figured out what is going on with the mac install, It is looking for libqjson.0.dylib , which I installed, but I can't just put it in the package, because it refers to links specific to my computer..
 
Oh, that would explain it.
Is it possible to link it statically?
 
I'm looking in to that, but it's new territory from here
 
@AmithKK Is there documentation for that?
 
does compiz work with the gs fallback?
 
BBT
Good Night
 
jrg
4:46 PM
dang thats a lot of database migrations.
this is the largest rails project i've ever seen... whoa.
 
5:00 PM
Bounty offered: How do I get QSystemTrayIcon to show up in Gnome 3? http://askubuntu.com/questions/155545/how-do-i-get-qsystemtrayicon-to-show-up-in-gnome-3?atw=1 #gnome3
 
5:13 PM
@GeorgeEdison Still around?
 
does the gnome fallback work better with multi-monitor setups than unity?
unity in 12.04 is no good for such setups :-(
 
jrg
@htorque define "multi-monitor". I'm fine with my two monitor setup.
 
two
one left one right
can't work with it
too many unity/compiz issues
 
jrg
that was my issue.
Did you tweak the settings so you don't have a 'barrier' between the monitors?
 
@Jacob I'm here (for the moment anyway).
 
5:19 PM
@jrg yeah, that was the most awful thing :D
 
@GeorgeEdison Oh, have something fun to go do?
 
I might in a few minutes.
 
@GeorgeEdison want to share?
 
i know about all the tweaks, but i've never before used multiple monitors in a productive environment and i just find it insufficient. well, i'll give the gnome fallback a chance.
good old two-panel setup :D
 
@Jacob Share?
 
jrg
5:23 PM
@GeorgeEdison what you're doing. We're all curious now. ;P
 
@GeorgeEdison What fun thing you might get to do? Also have you considered what I asked on Tues( I think?)
 
Well, to be 100% honest... I'm not quite sure - see, today is actually my birthday and I'm not responsible for the plans today.
So I kind of just "find out" what is planned (surprises and all that stuff).
 
jrg
HAPPY BIRTHDAY @GeorgeEdison!!!
@GeorgeEdison enjoy not knowing what you're doing. :D
 
@GeorgeEdison OHHHH Happy Birthday
 
Thanks guys :)
 
5:26 PM
Not again someone getting older - oh no! - Happy birthday @GeorgeEdison
 
jrg
adds to his google calendar
 
5:43 PM
Hello all
@GeorgeEdison Happy birthday
 
Thank you.
 
jrg
@GeorgeEdison the cat is out of the bag now. ;)
 
He sure is.
 
@GeorgeEdison happy birthday :D!
Today is also my brother's birthday :D
So that's two brothers with birthdays today ^_^
 
5:52 PM
@GeorgeEdison Happy B'day have a blast :D
 
I wonder if there is a Unicode symbol for a birthday cake...
 
already searching
 
ℵቘ┕㈕ဥስ
okay I give up
 
U+1F382
 
jrg
that isn't it.
 
5:54 PM
damn it my touchpad scroll is not working :-/
and its hard to search without it :P
𐏉
rotate it 90 degrees
ok any fix for scroll?
 
reboot?
okay folks gtg again - doing some writing and internet is distracting me
 
6:14 PM
Web applications are getting smarter...
 
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Q: What to do when an anonymous user insists they are the OP for an edit?

Eliah KaganSome edits, such as those adding information about an OP's system, should only be made... by the OP, or at the OP's explicit request, or by someone who is merely putting the information into the question, from what the OP has him/herself said (usually from comments). It's not, generally speak...

 
 
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7:46 PM
@jrg nice catch on the pi-rho ppa. and i hadn't seen that one
 
8:03 PM
Bounty offered: What's the recommend way to enable / disable services? http://askubuntu.com/questions/19320/whats-the-recommend-way-to-enable-disable-services?atw=1 #service
 
hello all
 
jrg
Howdy
@aking1012 thanks. I found that while looking for nmap. :)
 
I was all ... wait what? That ppa should be in the stock off-topic backtrack answer
 
@jrg I just lost 15 rep, and can't see where. Can you tell me why?
 
someone likely un-accepted one of your answers
 
jrg
8:07 PM
@Mitch I don't see anything. I see that you gained 15 rep 12 hours ago, gained 10 rep 15, 12, 5, 4 and 1 hours ago for a grand total of 65 rep today.
 
I know, but how can I find out which one?
 
jrg
Does that match your numbers?
 
few minutes ago it was 3813, and when I refreshed the page it went back to 3798
 
@Mitch I think you may be taking this whole QA thing a bit personally
 
jrg
probably another rep recalc.
 
8:08 PM
NO :)
 
jrg
anyway, i don't think I can say anything more detailed than that.
 
OK, thanks
 
oooh, pavucontrol has a pulseaudio monitor device. i've been looking for a way to get that without recompiling alsa to get alsaloop support FO-EVA
 
jrg
Yeah, it's nice. :P
 
@aking1012 A lot is happening, so sorry if I sound that way.
 
8:14 PM
@Mitch np, you just seem really focused on the points. if you just let it happen, the points mostly just happen
 
jrg
Last year my only goal was to get to 2K before I left for the summer (best part of 2-3 months).
 
I hear you, and I understand, just 4hr sleep in the last 48 hours.
and I just want to make sure that I wasn't seeing things.
 
jrg
I hit 2K, had a rep recalc, ended up losing like 60 rep. I was floored. Then I took my 2 month break, came back and was like "screw it, rep is for children". :P
(and all of this happened the day/night before I left. :P)
the moral of that story is folks: Don't be a JRG. You end up being a moderator.
And then you can't have fun. ;)
 
lollerskates
 
jrg
8:28 PM
Nevermind, thought I found a chat.SE bug.
 
if it's about multi-line formatting it's status-by-design
is there a canonical question for screen-recording?
if there's not a canonical question and answer, i think there should be(one that lists encoding settings and tips/tricks to capture audio-outs etc)
 
9:34 PM
o/ @mateosalta
 
hey @aking1012
I was trying to post lolerskates
how is it going?
 
it goes
i find i often wonder about weird things...do you think there being no rage-face for orly is a gap in features, or that it normally equates to "u don't say?"
 
(0_o) ?
 
exactly so
for anyone that doesn't know what i mean by rage-face alltheragefaces.com
they should so have an im api or whatever so &rage&yes&rage& returns
 
9:55 PM
 
@mateo_salta you always makes me lol
 
that was the closest, to orly, there is this one-
 
maybe it's my sarcasm that makes orly more synonymous with you don't say...i suppose that could also be the sticking point
 
10:11 PM
>.<
 
nice work on finding/making an orly...it just doesn't do it for me
 
yeah, it just doesn't have the same touch
they have a spot where you can request a face
 
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Q: Could the colour of questions be changed to reflect that they have no upvoted answers?

coversnailAt the moment when you look at the main page of questions there are 3 different categories of questions differentiated by colour: Questions with no answers: Questions with answers but none accepted: Question with accepted answer: I think it would be useful for there to be a difference be...

 
10:36 PM
Bounty offered: How do I rip a dvd including menus and extras to a menu driven divx file (or any l... http://askubuntu.com/questions/150379/how-do-i-rip-a-dvd-including-menus-and-extras-to-a-menu-driven-divx-file-or-any?atw=1 #commandline
 
 
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11:40 PM
and i now have crusader no regret and crusader no remorse working fullscreen/dosbox :) if only there were retro engines for linux(hint hint)
 
ever play IHNMAIMS
 
nope
 
I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream is a psychological horror point-and-click adventure game based upon Harlan Ellison's short story of the same name about an evil computer named AM that has destroyed all of humanity except for five people, who he has been keeping alive and torturing for the past 109 years. Each survivor has a fatal flaw in its character, and in an attempt to crush their spirits, AM has constructed a metaphorical adventure for each that preys upon their weaknesses. To succeed in the game, the player must make ethical choices to prove to the evil computer that humans are be...
 
i googled it. the premise is interesting
i think popey wanted to be constructive-ish...is there a way to turn this one in to a blanket question? askubuntu.com/questions/157364/wikipedia-lens-example-broken check my comment on what i think needs to be done
 
yeah, I like how it was based on a short story, they should make more games like that, where they start with a strange concept and run with it
 
11:46 PM
we would have more of that if engines were easier to use(barring quake and quark)
i don't think linux users "demand" horribly performant/GPU intensive games. it's my opinion that if there were more "hey anyone can do this" engines, we would see a lot more humble-bundles(read as you don't have to code an engine from scratch in opengl)
 
yeah, I only have 1ghz on my linux box that I do music and web and pictures on
 
so you take my point. i think a genericish set of engines based on the gaming staples of linux would be a massive leap forward
 
like an indie game sdk, or something like rpg maker
 
something like that yes. if there were a common framework for all genres (say ogre for rendering, bullet for physics, blender for model design, etc ,etc) and templates for say race, shoot, rpg, isometric city, isometric shoot, "zelda" etc.... just my stance
the problem is that big ideas like that need big people behind them
 
big people need big money
 
11:58 PM
i think there's an insane amount of money to be had from it...what was the units sold for the indie bundle???
 
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