English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

user19161

1:00 PM

@DavidWallace But you should go to bed now.

David Wallace

@ClarkKent As I've said to you numerous times before, I have no evidence that you are male.

user19161

Our please yourself question now has six answers.

David Wallace

Truth be told, I came back here to ask advice about the masturbation question.

user19161

This is very good for me. I hope to rep cap today.

user19161

@DavidWallace Well, FF and you are not really disagreeing. Your differences are more of a quantitative one, not a qualitative one.

user19161

1:04 PM

But sometimes people feel compelled to downvote even if that is why.

David Wallace

FF is saying it's NEVER used that way. I only need to cite ONE such usage to prove him wrong. And I don't even understand his comment under KitFox's comment.

user19161

If a person says this is never used and another says this is usually not used, I see the difference but we really should not be so petty like that.

user19161

As usual, in everyday life, we are not supposed to take words absolutely literally.

user19161

We only do that in mathematics for example.

David Wallace

He started it. Pffft.

user19161

1:06 PM

So in everyday life, 1.1=1. But in math, 1.1 !=1. QED.

David Wallace

And what does his comment underneath KitFox mean? He said it himself 26 times? He chose 26 usages that agree with him? Just what exactly?

KitFox

No, he linked an NGram or something.

David Wallace

Oh, I see.

And in Clark's last comment, I read the dots as multiplication, not as decimals. Which confused me at first.

KitFox

Oh, Google Books results.

David Wallace

Oh, of course. Because how people write in books is an excellent parallel to how they talk in the sort of informal contexts in which they might discuss masturbation.

KitFox

1:08 PM

It doesn't matter. He presents two instances in which it could be interpreted sexually.

Therefore, he proved my point.

user19161

Is everyone trying to use this question as an excuse to post erotic stories?

KitFox

Yes.

David Wallace

Sexually, but not masturbatorially.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox I have no idea.

user19161

@david I saw your example there, lol.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1:09 PM

The question itself says "deleted Jul 16 '11 at 0:01". Looking at the time, that's an autodelete.

But all the answers say, "deleted 22 hours ago".

KitFox

It's like it backdated it to the migration time.

David Wallace

Interesting. When I hear either "pleasure yourself", or "please yourself with masturbation", I imagine a woman doing it. I don't think I could write an example like that with a male protagonist.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Also, one of the answers says that it was me who deleted it. 22 hours ago. Only that particular one.

Stuff and nonsense.

user19161

Now I am thinking of the inverse. Could "pleasure yourself" be used non-sexually?

KitFox

> He reached for her hands to hold them but realized the minx had tucked one between her legs so she could pleasure herself as he pleased himself in her amazing ass.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1:11 PM

Some abstractions are leaking.

David Wallace

I could pleasure myself with ice cream, maybe.

user19161

@KitFox Geezis.

David Wallace

No, maybe not. That still sounds sexual.

KitFox

That one uses both.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@KitFox thank God her ass was amazing.

KitFox

1:12 PM

I no rite?

That's from "Recreating John Doe - Page 114" by Anh Leod if you want to read more.

David Wallace

Christ almighty, Kitty, I don't know whether to star you, flag you, or get on a plane!

@KitFox Oh, I thought you'd written that yourself.

KitFox

Hells no, I don't write smut.

user19161

@DavidWallace There might be "Snakes on a Plane".

KitFox

I enjoy it, but I don't write it.

user19161

I love the bathroom scene in that movie.

KitFox

1:16 PM

> ...as I then experienced by its instant taking fire upon the touch, and glowing with a strange tickling heat: there he pleased himself and me, by feeling, till growing a little too bold with me, he hurt me, and made me complain.

Memoirs Of Fanny Hill: or Memoirs of a Woman of Pleasure by John Cleland

user19161

"After watching Snakes on a Plane, Clark pleased himself."

KitFox

headdesk

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Huhuh she said fanny.

David Wallace

@KitFox You should post that under FF's comment.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Indeed you should.

David Wallace

1:18 PM

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 "fanny" isn't rude when KitFox says it.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

I fail to see at which point I said it was.

David Wallace

I fail to see at which point I said you did.

Mitch

@DavidWallace ""How to please yourself down there". I haven't clicked it, but I don't expect it to refer to visiting Australia." Zing!!

KitFox

I posted one that specifically used "pleased himself" for masturbation.

Because you could make the argument that a generic sexual connotation isn't the same thing.

David Wallace

Thank you. That supports my answer too.

KitFox

1:23 PM

Also one that uses "please yourself" for masturbation.

One instance makes "always" wrong.

Now I feel smug.

user19161

Anyway, let's cut FF some slack.

KitFox

"Pleasure yourself" is just low-class.

user19161

How about "service yourself"?

KitFox

Really low class.

David Wallace

@KitFox That new link of yours doesn't give me anything with "please yourself" on.

KitFox

1:25 PM

Also kind of sad.

user19161

I remember we were discussing self-service methods in this room.

David Wallace

We have "self service" gas stations.

KitFox

@DavidWallace What do you mean? You can't see it?

user19161

Also, "self service buffet".

David Wallace

But I could never get the pump to fit.

KitFox

1:26 PM

They all say that.

Mitch

@ClarkKent speaking of self-servicing, why did you delete your 'autologous' answer? It was technically correct.(but isn't the question a dupe anyway?)

David Wallace

@KitFox It takes me to a page about a book. But the word "please" does not appear on that page.

user19161

@Mitch Shall I undelete it? You must upvote me if I do so. OK, undeleted.

user19161

I usually delete my answers if they do not get upvoted after a while, just a bad habit.

David Wallace

@KitFox I think Google Books exposes different pages to different users. If you want to reference a passage in Google Books, I believe it's better to paste it rather than linking to it.

KitFox

1:28 PM

I don't think I can paste it in a comment.

user19161

I once deleted an answer and someone came and gave the same answer and got 40 upvotes.

David Wallace

I might just type it then.

KitFox

Nah. This high horse is too comfy to bother with that nonsense.

David Wallace

No, I mean I might. In fact, I shall.

KitFox

The Black Hawk By Joanna Bourne search for "Do you please yourself?"

Mitch

1:32 PM

@ClarkKent upvoted anyway.

why delete so soon?

user19161

Oh dear, after reading all this "please yourself", I wonder what fantasies I will have tonight.

David Wallace

Yes, I'm not sure whether I want to go to bed right now, or not.

And I have typed most of that extract, for the record.

Mitch

@ClarkKent mmm..hot chocolate.

user19161

This chat is going downhill...

KitFox

That Black Hawk book is pretty good. It's got Reg in it.

David Wallace

1:34 PM

Do owls please themselves?

Mitch

@ClarkKent exactly.

David Wallace

Good night everyone.

Mitch

I leave downvoted answers as signposts of 'you probably shouldn't do this'

@DavidWallace gnight and a small round of applause for the 'pleasing yourself down there' and 'Australia' comment.

user19161

@Mitch We usually don't drink chocolate here. We have a drink called Milo that is similar to chocolate.

Matt Эллен

@DavidWallace I definitely hear /fʊʃ/

Mitch

1:36 PM

@ClarkKent the whole question is terribly 'exact dupe' but I added 'impredicative' anyway. It's all fun. Surprising that search doesn't come up with all the items that Reg did.

Matt Эллен

oh! night @David

Mitch

@ClarkKent Is that like Ovaltine?

(if you know what that is)

user19161

Milo (drink)

Milo () is a chocolate and malt powder which is mixed with hot or cold water and/or milk to produce a beverage popular in many parts of the world. Produced by Nestlé, Milo was originally developed by Thomas Mayne in Sydney, Australia in 1934. It is marketed and sold in many countries around the world. Most commonly sold as a powder in a green tin, often depicting various sporting activities, Milo is available as a premixed beverage in some countries, and has been subsequently developed into a snack bar and breakfast cereal. Its composition and taste differ in some countries. History ...

user19161

@Mitch I drink ovaltine as well. Milo is more similar to chocolate than either is to ovaltine.

user19161

Ovaltine

Ovaltine is a brand of milk flavoring product made with malt extract (except the blue packaging in the US), sugar (except in Switzerland), and whey. Some flavors also have cocoa. Ovaltine, a registered trademark of Associated British Foods, is made by Wander AG, a subsidiary of Twinings which acquired the brand from Novartis in 2003, except in the United States, where Nestlé acquired the rights separately from Novartis later on. History Ovaltine was developed in Berne, Switzerland, where it is known by its original name, Ovomaltine (from ovum, Latin for "egg", and malt, originally it...

KitFox

1:38 PM

@Matt You about?

user19161

I also have done Nestum and Horlicks.

yes!

Ohai!

Hello :)

u no jQry?

1:39 PM

A widdle bit

user19161

Horlicks

Horlicks is the name of a company and of a malted milk hot drink. It is manufactured by GlaxoSmithKline in the United Kingdom, South Africa, New Zealand, Bangladesh, India, Pakistan and Jamaica, and under licence in the Philippines and Malaysia. Manufacturing process Unlike similar drinks, such as Ovaltine, Horlicks is not a dry blend of malt extract and milk powders. In the initial stage of manufacturing, milled malted barley and wheat flour are mashed together in hot water where the starch is converted into sugars. To this sugar solution dairy powders are added. The water content is...

KitFox

i haz element lng name ken assign to variable?

$(this).parent().next().find(".yokedcalendar")

Matt Эллен

yeah, that should work, but it'll be a jQuery object, if memory serves

Mitch

Ovaltine has a chocolate version. Tastes better than regular hot chocolate (they figured out the right proportions of sugar and chocolate and other stuff so you don't have to)

KitFox

OK, I'll see.

user19161

1:41 PM

@Mitch Ah, I did not know about the chocolate version!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@ClarkKent I never understood that nonsense.

KitFox

Damn it!

Stupid datepicker.

kicks jQuery UI

user19161

Maybe I should play those datepicker games.

Mitch

what's a datepicker game? playing with the calendar widget? or is this more about pleasing down under?

Matt Эллен

@KitFox what's the issue?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1:45 PM

So you have a product called Ovomaltine, because it contains malt, then you make a stupid typo and have to rename it into Ovaltine for some markets (but not others), and then you actually get a chance to fix it by bringing out a version with malt and no cocoa, and what do you call that one? Malt Ovaltine. Facedesk.

user19161

@Mitch I was not sure what she was referring to, but I meant picking a girl to go out with. You know, there are computer games like that.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Geezis!

Mitch

a game? really? so 21st century.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 if they make it with eggs they can call it ovumtine

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

@MattЭллен the Ovo part is because of eggs.

KitFox

1:46 PM

@MattЭллен I can't seem to enable the second datepicker. It's supposed to enable when the first datepicker is closed.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 yay!

Mitch

mmm...ovatine

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

So I suppose they should misspell it Tine, and then sell an Egg Malt Tine.

user19161

@Mitch But from what I have seen, those games are usually for girls.

Mitch

like tamaguchi but with little boyfriends?

user19161

1:47 PM

@Mitch Yes, something like that.

Mitch

that might die if you don't feed them?

KitFox

@Mitch Probably "that might die if you don't have sex with them" would be more realistic.

Mitch

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 irrelevant of nothing...

2

Q: What is the name for a collective noun for a group of words or acronyms, that is a member of the group it describes?

For example TLA is a three letter acronym; Antepreroxitone (words with the stress on the third from last sylable) is an antepreroxitone; Noun is a noun.

single-word-requests

this is duped numerous times as you've done the work to show.

can you merge -all- the answers to all those questions under one question (and delete the rest)?

or is that not kosher? or what is the appropriate action?

@KitFox I was trying not to go there.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox if you get a chance to put it into a fiddle, I will take a look.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Well I think only the first two questions I listed are dupish.

The rest are different. Though still related.

user19161

1:50 PM

I did not bother reading the dupes to think if they are different enough.

KitFox

@MattЭллен Fiddle! Yes! Why do I always forget that?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Basically I just searched the site for "autological". And posted only some of the results.

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Interestingly, when I posted my autological, I had never read any of those questions.

user19161

I announce that "please yourself" is now the No 3 hottest question on SE!

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Sigh. Gotta protect, I guess.

Mitch

1:54 PM

please.

has anyone noticed that most of the answers have 0 votes?

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Before posting this question I check that.But ,It was not convincing. — ankit 1 hour ago

user19161

I protect if and only if a question has at least 1000 views.

Mitch

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 OK...so it wasn't convincing.

user19161

Someone downvoted my answer again.

user19161

Maybe a prude.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

1:56 PM

I wonder what would convince him.

Mitch

I've seen that kind of response a number of times to 'what about etymonline or a dictionary?'. would it be churlish of me to say that people are lazy?

KitFox

@MattЭллен jsfiddle.net/Z4XLm

Mitch

convincing...sometimes you're blind to ...whatever.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Oh I'm pretty sure a significant portion of them is honest about "did check, didn't find convincing".

But that's what gives me the headdesks.

They trust a dictionary less than a random person from the Internet.

Param

Hi Everybody, This is my first time in this room...

user19161

1:57 PM

@Param Welcome!

Mitch

kid's wil ask 'What does 'X-Y' mean?' when the answer is obviously it's 'Y kind of X' and they go 'oh...duh' and I'm like 'yeah' and they're like 'as if'

Param

Nice to see u -- all of you..

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

You can see me? I never agreed to that.

3

Param

@clarkent Thanks

KitFox

@Mitch totaly

Param

1:58 PM

@ClarkKent Thanks

Mitch

'toats' is what 'kids these days' 'say'.

or is it 'tots' pronounced like 'toats'?

stupid cool people and their language.

user19161

Now someone comes along and comments the opposite: that it is not usually the case that please is used nonsexually.

Mitch

That's gonna make for some questionable conversations now.

user19161

Well, usual or not is just an expression of opinion. Nobody has access to all instances of use from the big bang.

Mitch

"Can I have this seat?" "Please"

user19161

2:01 PM

So I could have got one downvote for one reason and another downvote for the opposite reason!

Mitch

@ClarkKent Soon -all- conversations will be entirely recorded, and then we'll have a complete corpus.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

0

A: Do you say "please yourself" in a non-sexual context?

I would use the phrase suit yourself instead, so "Dinner's at 8 o'clock, but there's nothing planned for the afternoon, so you can all suit yourselves until then." but then I'm a native American English speaker, so...

This is all nice and well, but y u no answer teh question?

user19161

@RegDwightΒВBẞ8 Sounds a little like Singlish.

user19161

Though in Singlish it would be like "Why you dun answer de question?"

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

"Can you use the word 'car' in a non-sexual context?" — "I sometimes use 'daffodil' in a non-sexual context." Well thank you very much.

Matt Эллен

2:07 PM

@KitFox change ("option", "disabled", false); to ("enabled");

I must make some lunch!

user19161

@MattЭллен You no eat lunch til now?

Matt Эллен

these are the facts

KitFox

@MattЭллен It still won't go. Maybe the problem is somewhere else, because once I select a date in the first calendar, it doesn't pop out anymore.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox hmmmm. you want the second one to auto pop out when the first one has a date in it?

KitFox

No, just enable.

Matt Эллен

2:12 PM

oh! that should be ("enable");

KitFox

So you can select it and put a date in it.

Matt Эллен

no d

KitFox

Oh! I see. So it was waiting for me to pick a date on a calendar that I couldn't see.

That works, thanks.

Matt Эллен

no probs :)

KitFox

The UI docs did not match your answer though.

frown

I spent half a day on that.

Matt Эллен

2:14 PM

it's one of the methods

KitFox

Bloody hell.

Matt Эллен

enable method

KitFox

Sweet! It works even better than I had hoped.

Matt Эллен

really afk

user19161

Interesting that AFK and AFAIK both stand for sth.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:20 PM

@MattЭллен No, we don't have a double holiday that I know of. We should though, it would make people feel more sympathetic to the royals

KitFox

OK, here's an interesting question: if I use the touchup tool in Acrobat Pro and export it to Word, why do the things I changed come out with the wrong characters?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox what kind of wrong characters? You pasted in Han Solo but when you export it's Chewbacca?

I hate it when that happens

KitFox

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Yeah.

I type "Some text" and it comes out as "Dplw qwmq"

user19161

@KitFox I have not used Adobe Reader for long and don't have Adobe Acrobat, but if you just want the correct words you can try to use the text select tool to copy and paste.

KitFox

I am trying to modify an existing file.

Hugo

2:30 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 "Marking 60 years of The Queen's reign, the Diamond Jubilee celebrations will centre around an extended weekend on 2, 3, 4 and 5 June. ... celebrating over an extended bank holiday weekend, ..."

direct.gov.uk/en/Nl1/Newsroom/Features/DG_WP200687

"There is a a special bank holiday in 2012 to celebrate the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee. The 2012 late May bank holiday has been moved to Monday 4 June 2012 and an additional Jubilee bank holiday will be on Tuesday 5 June 2012."
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/employment/employees/timeoffandholidays/dg_073741

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

2:43 PM

@Hugo That would be nice, but in Canada, we get nada.

@KitFox Is that the actual substitution that occurs?

KitFox

No, but it does seem to be a substitution rather than a scramble. t = W, for instance.

It's not that big a deal. I can fix it by hand. I just thought it was weird.

Robusto

@MrShinyandNew安宇 In fact, you can't even spell Canada without nada.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Cannotada?

Robusto

That is the opposite of Canada. Or else its antonym. Maybe you could call it a can'tonym.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Is that in Switzerland?

Robusto

2:57 PM

I dunno, Dr. Schweizer.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

That's Sir Dr. Schweizer to you.

Robusto

I thought it would be Herr Doktor Schweizer.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

An ever popular misconception.

Robusto

I practice safe sex, so I always have misconceptions.

2

KitFox

Herrs are for Trix.

lunchtime bbl.

Robusto

3:01 PM

Have barrels of lunchtime then.

Barrel (unit)

A barrel is one of several units of volume, with dry barrels, fluid barrels (UK beer barrel, U.S. beer barrel), oil barrel, etc. The volume of some barrel units is double others, with various volumes in the range of about . Dry goods * US dry barrel: (~3.28 bushel). **Defined as length of stave , diameter of head , distance between heads , circumference of bulge outside measurement; representing as nearly as possible 7,056 cubic inches; and the thickness of staves not greater than ([Ø ≈ ]). Any barrel that is 7,056 cubic inches is recognized as equivalent. * US barrel for cranberries ...

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

We have a Barrel England already.

Robusto

Which, coincidentally, is approximately the size of my unit.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

Thank you for the information.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto Maybe you should see a doctor.

Robusto

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I was trying to get an appointment with Herr Doktor Schweizer, but he wouldn't see me.

RegDwight ΒВBẞ8

3:07 PM

2

Q: What is the equivalent word for "compile" in an interpreted language?

(I was encouraged to ask this question here.) In C, we say: GCC compiles foo.c. For interpreters (such as Lua), what is the equivalent verb? The Lua interpreter ____ foo.lua. When I write instructions for users of my Lua script, I often say: Run the interpreter on foo.lua. I t...

terminology lua

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Q: What is the equivalent word for "compile" in an interpreted language?

In C, we say: GCC compiles foo.c. For interpreters (such as Lua), what is the equivalent verb? The Lua interpreter ____ foo.lua. When I write instructions for users of my Lua script, I often say: Run the interpreter on foo.lua. I think this can be said more succinctly: Inte...

word-choice

Your close votes, please.

I gotta run. Laters!

KitFox

makes note to keep Rob's unit away from amazing ass

skullpatrol

@KitFox Can you believe I got suspended for my cleavage showing avatar?

KitFox

What cleavage-showing avatar?

skullpatrol

Remember I used it in here?

KitFox

No, I don't.

Maybe I wasn't in at the time.

skullpatrol

3:20 PM

and you laughed at it

KitFox

I did?

Was I on drugs at the time?

And what's with the war going on in Maths?

skullpatrol

it was showing a lot :)

of cleavage

anyway I think it was gigili who complained

Cerberus

Hello there.

@skullpatrol That's weird.

KitFox

I can't remember it at all. Was it real or cartoon?

Cerberus

Was it front cleavage?

skullpatrol

3:23 PM

there are a lot of over-sensitive egos in there

Cerberus

Oh dear, a war?

Does it have to do with the elections?

KitFox

No, just a shouting match.

Cerberus

Ugh.

By the way, how do you feel about dating someone 2/3 your age?

Namely, 22.

Matt Эллен

that's within the limit

skullpatrol

Yes it was a real picture of frontal clevage

Cerberus

3:27 PM

Hmm.

I don't know.

skullpatrol

know your limit play within it :D

Cerberus

Haha.

Good attitude.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus If I were single, I wouldn't rule out dating a 22 year old, but it's unlikely. Any younger though, and they really start to seem like babies. At least a 22yo has probably graduated from university.

I don't really think of it in terms of "2/3 my age"

More like "12 years younger" which is pushing it a lot. I'm pretty sure that if I were single I'd draw the line at 10 years younger in theory, and 5 years younger is more likely to occur.

KitFox

It's half your age plus 7.

That's the rule.

Matt Эллен

Exactly!

I round down >:)

skullpatrol

3:38 PM

y = 0.5x + 7

Hi

Hay

What was I doing?

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Oops I miscalced, it's actually 3/4 my age. Maths, eh. And I love your "in theory", you naughty-naughty!

@KitFox Oh yes, I always forget... then that would be just on the safe side.

@MattЭллен Pedo!

Meysam رها در بند

I feel pain in the right side of my chest.

Cerberus

3:46 PM

@Meysamرهادربند What kind of pain?

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus hey! 22 is legally an adult!

Cerberus

What happens when you breathe in deeply?

What happens when you press your chest with your fingers?

@MattЭллен But barely!

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus 4 years since adulthood is endowed! That's loads!

KitFox

Where on that side? Near the center? On the side? Collarbone area?

@Cerberus No, barely legal is 18.

Cerberus

Do you feel the pain in a specific area, or just all over the right side of your chest?

KitFox

3:48 PM

Or posing as 18.

Cerberus

@KitFox Those are the best!

Meysam رها در بند

@Cerberus When I breathe deeply both sides hurt. But normally I feel the pain more on the right side. Touching the chest has no effect

@Cerberus Almost specific area

KitFox

@Meysamرهادربند On the side of your chest, or more like the front or back?

Cerberus

Hmm...have you had this pain before? When did it start?

Meysam رها در بند

@KitFox On the front side

KitFox

3:49 PM

@Meysamرهادربند Is it sharp, like someone sticking you with something?

Meysam رها در بند

@Cerberus I have had it before, but not continuously. Today it's been continuous.

@KitFox I can tell it's sharp.

Cerberus

I'd see a doctor if I were you. But I'm interested in the answers to Kit's questions anyway.

KitFox

@Meysamرهادربند Have you had a cough?

Cerberus

She knows stuff about medical things.

KitFox

It sounds like pleurisy.

Meysam رها در بند

3:51 PM

@KitFox No cough. Just pain

Cerberus

I have had lung pains since I was a little child.

KitFox

But it won't be that if you haven't had a lung infection.

Cerberus

Sometimes lasting for maybe half an hour.

KitFox

@Meysamرهادربند Have you tried taking antacids?

Cerberus

It can be something harmless. But if this is something fairly new, and it doesn't go away, see a doctor.

Meysam رها در بند

3:53 PM

@KitFox No

KitFox

And how would you rate the pain on a scale from 1 to 10 with 10 being the worst pain you can imagine?

Meysam رها در بند

Maybe I wait till tomorrow, and then see a doctor if it doesn't go away

@KitFox 3

KitFox

Try taking antacids too. It won't hurt if you don't have heartburn, and if it makes the pain go away, you might just have an atypical presentation.

Did you notice when the pain started?

Meysam رها در بند

@KitFox Today I went to pool, and spent some time under water. Maybe it's because of that

@KitFox Yes the pain started after the pool

KitFox

Oh. Well, it might be that you've got a little muscle spasm going on.

Meysam رها در بند

3:56 PM

@KitFox Could be because of holding my breath

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@KitFox that's what I had the other day. Back pain that turned into total rib spasm in a 3-4" wide band around my chest. It was excruciating.

Cerberus

Yikes.

KitFox

Crap. Meeting. Later!

Cerberus

I believe muscle pains and stomach pains are the most common chest pains? They can be quite awful. I believe a heart pain would be on the left side, and it would not be sharp, and it would not be at a very specific location.

Meysam رها در بند

@KitFox Apart from this, sometimes I experience a sudden strong (8/10) pain in my right chest. It only lasts 1 second and happens maybe once every year or so.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

3:59 PM

@Cerberus it depends on the kind and cause of the heart pain

Cerberus

@KitFox Bye!

Meysam رها در بند

Bye

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Meysamرهادربند 8/10 pain should be cause to go to the doctor, that is pretty bad

Cerberus

@Meysamرهادربند I think I have that too, but more often.

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