The Overlook Hotel

Nathan C. Tresch

5:31 AM

Christianity is an extention of Rome's sun worship that was retro-fitted for monotheism.

Praise Sol Invictus, the "Sun/Son"

I started another short story

And I edited the other one really heavily.

I need to start coming in here more often.

Standback

7:29 AM

@NathanCTresch: I am vaguely wondering whether the sun-worship lines have anything to do with the short story.

KitFox

11:37 AM

Wow. A bunch of writers who can't figure out how to express "Why pad it with crap?" without using profanity? I lol at the irony.

3

Also, we edit that shit out on EL&U as well, unless the question is specifically about it.

I mean, FFS, we chop the "Hi"s and "Kthx"s with extreme prejudice.

Standback

12:00 PM

:)

Ladybug Killer

1:32 PM

@KitFox It's not a matter of inability, it's a matter of preference. Because I want to curse the shit out of me! :)

Lauren Ipsum

3:12 PM

@KitFox: it's not a question of breadth of vocabulary, but of censorship. If "fuck" is exactly and precisely the right word, why do I have to use "frak" and pretend that it's equivalent? (I'm arguing the principle, Standback; I understand the rules.)

And you should chop the Kthnx. Text acronyms are English with all the spelling taken out. There's no place for it in educated correspondence.

(and speaking of irony, you did what at it? :) )

Nathan C. Tresch

3:38 PM

@Standback Nope. I just saw the christianity discussion so I wanted to chime in with my history lesson

@NeilFein <3

@JedOliver <3

Neil Fein

Hello!

Jed Oliver

Howdy

Nathan C. Tresch

Work settled down some.

So I can relax and stop by here again more often. :D

Neil Fein

I'm in crunch week - project due at the end of the month, so I won't be around all that much.

But I have a few minutes to catch up on Stack Exchange stuff while I have my coffee.

Nathan C. Tresch

Excellent.

I have a story in the workds

Another

And I'm editing one that I wrote very heavily

Jed Oliver

3:45 PM

You didn't miss much. Just a bunch of crap. :)

Nathan C. Tresch

:)

Well, yes, if I wasn't present I know that I didn't miss much.

;)

I am so totally not a fan of censoring profanity.

(Note that I never use it in my questions or answers, however. :P)

Neil Fein

3:57 PM

@JedOliver - Getting caught up now. I saw the stuff about swearing.

Generally, if I can help it, I'd prefer to not gonna come down on profanity too hard unless it's blatant. (Think George Carlin.)

I'd prefer to prohibit behaviors like abuse and nastiness.

In practice, the two often go together.

KitFox

Jesus, what the fuck? Seriously? What is the issue with not using words like "shit"?

Neil Fein

There is a Stack Exchange policy on swearing, but it doesn't get into specific words.

There's more, @Standback sent me some additional stuff on this to read, I gotta get caught up.

KitFox

Yeah, I know. Like I said, we edit cussing most of the time on EL&U.

It's rarely needed to communicate the point.

Neil Fein

I personally think that editing out cursing is censorship, even if it is benign.

KitFox

You all must be younger than me.

Neil Fein

4:00 PM

Again, in practice, people who curse often do it for shock value, so it's not useful.

KitFox

Kids these days.

Neil Fein

I think it was Isaac Asimov who said something like this: They're just words, and not nasty in of themselves, but writers can think of more interesting ways to express themselves.

Nathan C. Tresch

yeah.

@KitFox Hello dear

KitFox

Ahoy.

Nathan C. Tresch

I edited the story you read pretty heavily

KitFox

4:02 PM

Are you glad of it?

Nathan C. Tresch

And removed all traces of sexuality from it

Yes

I was basically trying to shoehorn two stories into one

KitFox

Never a good plan.

Nathan C. Tresch

I wasn't aware of it

Until I thought about it pretty hard

KitFox

Well, maybe a good plan, but only if you are George Lucas.

Nathan C. Tresch

hahahaah

I also started another story

KitFox

4:03 PM

coughs

Nathan C. Tresch

About a cyberdaemon :D

KitFox

A daemon or a demon?

Nathan C. Tresch

Same thing!

The latter is derived from the former

KitFox

@NathanCTresch Nuh-uh.

Nathan C. Tresch

I'm afraid so.

It's the former, but it's also the latter

It's both!

And it's also an Incubus

KitFox

4:07 PM

I am moderately offended that you think you can educate me on these matters.

Nathan C. Tresch

I am moderately offended that you think that a demon is somehow different from a daemon.

:D

KitFox

Well, then I am satisfied.

Nathan C. Tresch

:D

<3 kitfox

KitFox

:-P

New meds?

Nathan C. Tresch

No. I am just in a terrific mood.

I got a space heater for my office

So I can close the door and have a no-pants workday whenever I want

:D

When is our official chat event?

KitFox

4:17 PM

I think it got moved to tomorrow?

Nathan C. Tresch

Ugh.

Well, now that things are going well at work again I can stop by most every day

:D

KitFox

So you have work?

Nathan C. Tresch

Yes

KitFox

I thought you were insane?

Nathan C. Tresch

I'm the development manager at an internet startup

Yes, I am

KitFox

4:19 PM

Oh. You are insane.

Nathan C. Tresch

Yes, I'm very high functioning

KitFox

I see.

Nathan C. Tresch

Moreso than my mother, and she was a paralegal before she went off the deep end for good.

brb

KitFox

So what kind of crazy are you?

Nathan C. Tresch

Mild psychotic episodes, classic narcissism, ADHD

Narcissism is my most pronounced crazy-ness

It defines me for the most part

KitFox

4:25 PM

How do you feel about that?

Was your mother also a narcissist?

Nathan C. Tresch

Ever since I stopped fighting my narcissism my life has been going great.

No, my mother was full blown psychotic

She has that well controlled with meds

KitFox

I think writing is a great way to sublimate narcissism.

Nathan C. Tresch

mmmhm

The day I finally took my therapists advice and stopped fighting with myself over it was the same day that I became posessed of the need to write.

:)

KitFox

Well, there isn't a whole lot you can do. You can't fix it, you just have to find ways to make it work for you.

Do you feel less empty now?

Nathan C. Tresch

Yes.

I feel whole

For the first time in 20 years

KitFox

4:33 PM

Well, then. That's a good therapist.

Nathan C. Tresch

Yes.

I had convinced myself that there was something wrong with me and that I shouldn't indulge that part of myself

But, clearly that was bad advice I had given myself 20 years ago

I'm so much happier now

And I love to write again

I haven't loved to write in so many years, I thought that love was lost to me

I most especially like talking to you. You always let me focus the conversation on myself. :P

KitFox

4:52 PM

Only when I'm gone for a brief meeting.

Otherwise, we shall talk only about me.

Nathan C. Tresch

Okay

What are you wearing?

KitFox

My native self-defenses.

Cunning and a cruel look.

Nathan C. Tresch

Sexy

I'm wearing mine also: I look like I might be undressing you with my eyes, or I might be sweetly thinking of you.

KitFox

rolls eyes; suppresses urge to vomit

Nathan C. Tresch

Yes, yes, that's what they all say.

KitFox

5:05 PM

Then I think you may be doing it wrong.

Nathan C. Tresch

They don't all say it, that's just what I say when they do, sheesh.

The ones that do say it usually come around soon anyhow.

I'm not conceited, I'm convinced.

Hello @LaurenIpsum, hello @LadybugKiller. :)

ER

Hello @Standback

Standback

/me is here very vaguely. My rehearsal starts in... any moment now.

I've been shanghaied into filling the lead role in community theater. FUN!

...but time consuming.

KitFox

Which piece?

Nathan C. Tresch

@Standback I'm quite jealous, and that's rare. I'm almost never jealous of anyone.

@Standback I haven't done any acting in many years

Standback

5:25 PM

I act when I have time. Which is... occasionally. It's so time consuming.

It's a romantic comedy, by P.G Wodehouse.

A guy falls in love with a doctor;

every time he starts telling her how he feels,

she starts analyzing his symptoms.

It's a lot of fun :D

So I get to be the lead, the sap in love.

Lauren Ipsum

6:59 PM

Wodehouse! loooooooove Jeeves & Wooster

@KitFox and for the record, I'm a bit older than you are

Did we officially move the chat to Tues?

KitFox

How old am I?

It's scheduled for tomorrow, yes.

Lauren Ipsum

Your EL&U profile says 35, so that's all the evidence I have.

What time?

KitFox

Oh, I see.

16:00 at UTC -4?

Lauren Ipsum

In English?

KitFox

4 o'clock EDT.

Lauren Ipsum

7:03 PM

eeeexcellent, thank you :)

KitFox

Or are we on EDT?

Lauren Ipsum

Daylight

there's one midwestern state which doesn't observe DST, Indiana maybe?

And maybe AZ

KitFox

Illinois? I dunno. One of those crazy whackadoodle states.

Lauren Ipsum

I believe the official term is "Flyover"

because dog knows there is NOTHING on the ground you need to see between St.Louis and Denver

"Kansas: Land of the great TV reception"

KitFox

Except Carhenge, of course. You musn't forget Carhenge.

The greatest henge in all the land.

Lauren Ipsum

7:06 PM

which is?

KitFox

...

A reproduction of Stonehenge near Alliance, NB made entirely out of cars spray painted gray.

Geezis. What are they teaching the young people these days?

tuts

Lauren Ipsum

FUck if I know; I'm not a "young person"

I have seen Stonehenge, however

afk for a sec

bak

had to put on the Muppet Show

KitFox

It's time to play the music.

It's time to light the lights.

It's time to get things started on the Muppet Show tonight.

Lauren Ipsum

wow you type much faster than I do

:D

I can't keep up!

KitFox

I haven't watched it since I was knee-high to a grasshopper and yet that immediately popped into my head.

Lauren Ipsum

7:11 PM

Buddy Rich is the guest

Amazing how it all comes back

Sesame Street, Electric Company, Muppet Show...

KitFox

My husband laughed at me because I sang all of the Transformers theme last week.

Lauren Ipsum

More than meets the eye!

KitFox

First time I'd seen it since I was, I dunno, twelve.

Lauren Ipsum

Transformers are AWESOME

KitFox

They have a new series, Transformers Prime, that is an update of the old one. Pretty bitchin'.

Scarier than the old ones though.

Lauren Ipsum

7:13 PM

Is Cullen voicing?

KitFox

For small people, I mean. I'm not afraid of them.

@LaurenIpsum You betcha.

Lauren Ipsum

Excellent. No point without him.

Nathan C. Tresch

Hi.

I just quit my job.

Lauren Ipsum

Do I offer congratulations or condolences?

KitFox

But you just got a space heater!

Lauren Ipsum

7:18 PM

Maybe he quit his pants?

KitFox

Well, that is a benefit of a space heater.

Lauren Ipsum

C'mon, @NathanCTresch, don't leave us hanging like that.

Nathan C. Tresch

Hahahah

Sorry!

Congratulations are in order

I will hopefully get this job at my friends company

Lauren Ipsum

I'll order them for you :)

KitFox

claps

Lauren Ipsum

7:23 PM

What's the new job?

Nathan C. Tresch

Thank you, ladies.

It will be another programming job.

I'm a computer programmer by day.

KitFox

You jumped without knowing where you'd land?

Lauren Ipsum

It's a Matrix thing

KitFox

Stupid?

Nah, just gutsy, I think.

Lauren Ipsum

Starts out really fascinating, gets caught up in its own mythology, not a particularly satisfying ending, but awesome graphics

KitFox

7:25 PM

In the first one.

Lauren Ipsum

hm, yeah

KitFox

The second one sucked so hard I had nothing left for the third.

Lauren Ipsum

Haven't seen 2 and 3 since they came out

KitFox

The Animatrix series was interesting.

Lauren Ipsum

Didn't see it

well, gotta run -- will try to stop by later

See you next time on the Muppet Show! (cue sax)

KitFox

7:27 PM

Bai!

Lauren Ipsum

Don't make me edit that :)

KitFox

Whut?

You don't see me criticizing your double-hyphen-instead-of-a-proper-emdash, do you?

;-)

Nathan C. Tresch

7:43 PM

@KitFox I often jump without looking. :)

Nathan C. Tresch

8:15 PM

I'm back. Hola my friends! <3

Lauren Ipsum

11:56 PM

@KitFox: I was referencing your earlier comment that at EL&U, y'all edit out the KthxBais with prejudice. And I used -- instead of — because I'm never sure what will translate on the internet and what will come out as Ö or å.

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