TeX, LaTeX and Friends

Alan Munn

12:11 AM

@Canageek Congratulations!

Canageek

@AlanMunn Thanks

Now I just have to finish all these changes and respond to each reviwer comment

My goal was to be done today, but I didn't focus enough on the weekend

So now I'm aiming for sometime tommorow

Alan Munn

@Canageek :) Yes, but with an acceptance, that's presumably not so difficult.

@Canageek When you get 'revise and resubmit' its when you spend a few days thinking horrible thoughts about the reviewers.

Canageek

@AlanMunn Not HARD per sey, just taking longer then accepted to find the papers they mention, read and understand them and incorperate them

One of the reviewers was VERY enthusiastic, and mentioned a lot of literature from the field I missed, obviously knowing it well....and obviously doing it from memory as they got some journals and authors mixed up.

So I had to spend a number of articles hunting for the paper they meant, instead of the one they said

Alan Munn

@Canageek Oh well. But at least they liked it!

Canageek

@AlanMunn Well, they really liked the first three compounds, as they only mentioned those ones

To be fair, they are the most intresting

Alan Munn

12:16 AM

@Canageek What's the paper about? (Bearing in mind I'm not a chemist...)

Canageek

@AlanMunn I made a number of unusual structures of gold and uranium, in non-chemist speak. They have a number of odd structural features that are interesting to people trying to make structures with specific features.

The first three have something known as a peroxo bridge, which is quite odd and has been studied rather heavily, but mine is the first to make it this easily in an extended structure (Where all the molecules link together), using only sunlight (instead of hydrogen peroxide)

barbara beeton

@Canageek -- i'm not a chemist either, but it sounds like you have every right to be pleased with yourself. congrats.

Canageek

@barbarabeeton Thank you

Now I need to not take 3+ years to do the next three-four and I can graduate

Alan Munn

@Canageek Very cool! (And a good layperson explanation, too).

Canageek

The next one should be cooler, but I can't talk about that until we are closer to publication

@AlanMunn Thank you

I've been practising.

rsc.org/news-events/community/2017/apr/lab-livestreaming

Alan Munn

12:24 AM

@Canageek Yes, it's an important thing for all scientists to be able to do. I tell my students that they should be able to explain to someone they meet in a bar what they do.

@Canageek Bravo! That's a really neat idea.

Canageek

@AlanMunn Thank you! I need to do it more often, it has been a while.

Tables are hard to make look decent

The first one I could probably make two columns

Alan Munn

@Canageek Yes, probably. The second is mainly driven by the long first column entries. Could they be wrapped?

Canageek

@AlanMunn Yes, that might work

@AlanMunn Even doing that it is more then 1 column wide

Alan Munn

12:44 AM

@Canageek Yes, that's not surprising. You'd have to lose two columns width to get it to fit into the left column of the paper. Can it be centred?

Canageek

@AlanMunn Possibly, I'll try it

Can I just wrap a table* in \begin{center}?

A bit odd looking, but at least it isn't giant now

Would be nice if it was easier to line up the entries so they went in order and didn't leave 1b on its own like that

Alan Munn

@Canageek No, typically if it's already inside a {table} environment, you just add \centering after the \begin{table}.

Canageek

@AlanMunn I will never understand when I use center vs centering

But that does look a lot nicer

@AlanMunn Any suggestions for the above table?

Alan Munn

12:59 AM

@Canageek Would it be possible to have 1b split across the two columns with no intervening thick line?

Canageek

@AlanMunn I have no idea how I would do that

@AlanMunn I just put in a | between the columns...and use \midrule for the rest (which probably breaks some rule, but...}

Alan Munn

@Canageek Well vertical lines in tables are a no-no usually. In this case I can see the point, but since booktabs adds extra space above and below its rules that's why you get the space in between.

Canageek

@AlanMunn Yeah, I'm aware. I thought a table half the page and 2 lines think was worse. But having the entries out of order is...not good?

Alan Munn

1:19 AM

@Canageek It depends. Hang on, I'm trying something.

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{booktabs}
\usepackage{array}
\usepackage{calc}
\begin{document}
\begin{tabular}{cl|cl}
Compound & \multicolumn{1}{c}{U=O} & Compound & \multicolumn{1}{c}{U=O}\\
1a & 1.742(7) & 1c & 1.72(2)\\
& 1.742(7) &  & 1.72(2)\\
& 1.742(7) &  & 1.72(2)\\
& 1.742(7) &  & 1.72(2)\\
& 1.742(7) &  & 1.72(2)\\
\hline
\multicolumn{4}{@{}c@{}}{
\begin{tabular}{>{\centering}p{\widthof{Compound}}lp{\widthof{Compound}}l}
1b & 1.742(7) &  & 1.72(2)\\
& 1.742(7) &  & 1.72(2)\\
& 1.742(7) &  & 1.72(2)\\

I don't know if that's helpful or not.

And maybe put the whole tabular inside its own group {... } with \arrayrulewidth=1pt inside.

@Canageek ^^^

Canageek

1:39 AM

@AlanMunn Sorry, was talking to my boss. I'm not sure, that seems like it might break when I send it to the journal

What does @JosephWright think? He knows the RSC

Alan Munn

@Canageek You mean my version? It's using pretty common packages. But I don't know what the rules are.

Canageek

@AlanMunn Calc is the only one I'm not using, but was more worried about using 4 tables, right now mine is based on their template example.

Alan Munn

@Canageek What do you mean, 4 tables?

Canageek

@AlanMunn Sorry, multiple tabulars.

@AlanMunn You seem to have a tabular, instead another tabular

Alan Munn

@Canageek Yes, I've put a tabular inside another tabular. But that's pretty basic LaTeX, nothing fancy there at all.

Canageek

2:37 AM

@AlanMunn Almost 8 pm here and I'm still at my desk. I'm going to go home and worry about it in the morning when I've had some food.

Alan Munn

@Canageek Ok. Have a good evening. Congrats again on the paper acceptance.

@cfr I think the funny tree is supposed to look like this:

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[]{forest}
\forestset{circled/.style={draw,circle}}
\begin{document}
\begin{forest}
for children={l*=n}, [root,circled [A,circled[][][][]] [B,circled[][][][]] [C,circled[][][][]]
]
\end{forest}
\end{document}

@cfr I see you've done something along those lines.