Root Access

Rahul2001

2:10 AM

Mornin'!

Ben N

Hi!

Journeyman Geek

'Ola!

Rahul2001

3:55 AM

!'ninroM

allquixotic

4:42 AM

@Bob yesterday I used a long pole (technically a mop minus the head) with a Samsung J3-V duct taped to it, to take pictures of debris in a gutter so I could verify there was debris stuck in there that needed to be removed :P

actually just put it on video record with a 10 minute screen off timeout, and duct taped in an area along the back chassis where the camera wasn't

Bob

4:53 AM

@allquixotic ...I just use a ladder :P

well, sometimes ladder + arm + camera

Journeyman Geek

5:14 AM

lol

My mom's camera can be controlled from a phone

so in theory I could duct tape it to a pole and view it directly

Rahul2001

@allquixotic cough Selfie Stick cough

allquixotic

5:33 AM

@Rahul2001 most selfie sticks won't reach dozens of feet (8m+) into the air

Rahul2001

@allquixotic lol, you can link them together

I once did for a photography project

It's pretty cool

Journeyman Geek

the selfie stick probably also gives you a good mount.

Rahul2001

6:05 AM

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, they have those screws. And a uh, the, nut (inverse-screws?) on the handle end, so you can connect one to another.

HackToHell

Morning

Journeyman Geek

Threads I guess

Michael Frank

7:03 AM

@allquixotic I just found a bunch of my old Dawngate screenshots. :(

Boris_yo

8:18 AM

@ThatBrazilianGuy "See" would be the right word here.

Good show by the way. Started good but went downhill starting from season 3 I think.

Hmm I expected more from "Suicide Squad"...

Bob

8:40 AM

Hm.

My YouTube content location somehow got set to Singapore... I blame @JourneymanGeek :P

Boris_yo

Had it too long time ago. Didn't know it's JourneymanGeek's fault...

Journeyman Geek

9:00 AM

Bob

lol

Michael Frank

9:47 AM

@Bob Heh... didn't @OliverSalzburg have that problem as well?

Bob

@MichaelFrank Did he? o.O

Oh, so he did O_O

Feb 21 at 21:13, by Oliver Salzburg

Some time ago I asked why my YouTube would show Singapore as the content region for me. Turns out, there's a content region selector at the bottom of the page. No idea why it was on SG

Journeyman Geek

>_>

Bob

Yup, definitely @JourneymanGeek's fault :P

Journeyman Geek

YOU CANNOT PROVE ANYTHING!

Michael Frank

Probably sending doctored YouTube links through chat.

Journeyman Geek

9:52 AM

naw, we're hacking your networks with carefully timed tailwags.

Journeyman Geek

11:13 AM

hm

github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/5644

Ow

Burgi

do you think a P3 thats been in the shed for 14 years will still work?

Rahul2001

@Burgi You have a plane in your shed? :/

Curtiss P-1 Hawk

The P-1 Hawk (Curtiss Model 34) was a 1920s open-cockpit biplane fighter aircraft of the United States Army Air Corps. An earlier variant of the same aircraft had been designated PW-8 prior to 1925. == Design and development == === PW-8 === The Curtiss P-1 Hawk was the first US Army Air Service aircraft to be assigned the "P" (Pursuit) designation which replaced seven designations for pursuit aircraft, including "PW" (for "Pursuit, Water-cooled engine"). The P-1 was the production version of the Curtiss XPW-8B, an improved variant of the PW-8, 25 of which were operational with the Air Service's...

Burgi

thats a p1

Rahul2001

> P-3 and P-5 test variants
The P-3 Hawk was similar to the P-1 Hawk but with a radial R-1340-3 Wasp radial engine.

Journeyman Geek

Pentium 3?

Possible

But the easiest way to check is to plug it in and hit the on switch

Rahul2001

11:26 AM

Honda P series

The P-series is a chronological progression of prototype humanoid robots as developed by Honda. The research conducted allowed the eventual creation of ASIMO. P1 developed in 1993 P2 unveiled in 1996 P3 unveiled in 1997 Notes: 1.^ – The P1 was developed in 1993 but was not unveiled and Honda kept its existence a secret until the announcement of the P2 in 1996. 2.^ – The P4 was developed in 2000 and originally unveiled as "P3-improved prototype" (P3改良型試作機). The model was announced as the "P4" in 2009. == See also == Honda E series, experimental models Humanoid Robotics Project; the HRP-1 ...

Journeyman Geek

Get off my lawn. ;p

He means a pentium III

Burgi

there is no cap leakage or crap on the mobo

Rahul2001

@JourneymanGeek [citation needed]

DCI-P3

DCI-P3, or DCI/P3, is a common RGB color space for digital movie projection from the US-American film industry. In the CIE 1931 xy chromaticity diagram the DCI-P3 color space covers 45.5% of all chromaticities and 86.9% of Pointer’s gamut. In the CIE 1976 u’v’ chromaticity diagram the coverage is 41.7% and 85.5% respectively. The blue primary color is the same as sRGB and Adobe RGB; the red primary color is a monochromatic light source and has a wavelength of 615 nm. DCI-P3 was defined by the Digital Cinema Initiatives (DCI) organization and published by the Society of Motion Picture and Television...

Burgi

Bob

@JourneymanGeek what's a R!? o.O

Journeyman Geek

11:36 AM

No idea but it seems scary

Bob

@Burgi Ooh, it actually has a fan :P

Journeyman Geek

why wouldn't it?

Later model too. socket, not slot

Bob

I still have that old IBM P3 kicking around. The one with the slot and no fan :P

Journeyman Geek

(early PIIIs were slot 1s.)

Bob

@JourneymanGeek slot 1*

Journeyman Geek

11:40 AM

lol my old PIII was a viglan, same thing there

not looking so bad too

Bob

still (five years later) ahven't gotten around to trying to boot it

Journeyman Geek

Happens a lot ;p

Bob

wait. it... IT HAS USB

now I'm halfway tempted to try a live usb

Journeyman Geek

Yup

1.1 most likely not bootable.

Bob

assuming the bios can actually do usb boot

@JourneymanGeek hm. well, there's always plop?

Journeyman Geek

11:44 AM

yup

Bob

wait. did 1.1 even do mass storage? :S

brings back memories of installing mass storage drivers on 98 :P

Journeyman Geek

It did

Bob

the other hard part is finding a VGA-capable screen :P

Journeyman Geek

but was terribly slow

shrug or an adaptor

Bob

@JourneymanGeek bah, buying hardware?

Journeyman Geek

11:46 AM

lol

true

I have 2 VGA capable screens ._.

my 12 year old plasma TV, and the crossover ;p

Bob

think the main thing stopping me from bothering is, well... there's not much I can do with it

and I'm pretty sure it's less powerful than the rpi, so...

@JourneymanGeek crossover: all the ports!

Journeyman Geek

actually...

No DVI ;p

;p

3 HDMI, one DP, one VGA...

Bob

o.O

Journeyman Geek

all the HDMI is 2.0 too

Burgi

12:10 PM

it powers on but has a red flashing light and no video output

tereško

@JourneymanGeek it should come "beta" sticker

(old people joke)

Journeyman Geek

0_0

tereško

have you really forgotten the last time 2.0 was big:

Journeyman Geek

0_0

lol

@tereško basically means it does 4k60 over HDMI where supported

bertieb

Am I the only person that keeps old monitors hanging around "just in case" ?

tereško

12:23 PM

... as I said - old people joke

bertieb

I have at least one that doesn't even support DVI

tereško

@bertieb I tried that, but I had to throw out the TFT thing

it was taking up too much room

bertieb

Fair enough

I can't bring myself to throw stuff away (cf. data hoarding, buying Steam games that never get played etc)

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb most of those stopped working

I do have a "working" SGI octane where I lost the root password ;p

bertieb

Also fair reason to throw them away :P

Not that it stops me... I have a HannsG that I've replaced half the caps (inverter board I think) but not yet done the power supply baord caps

Journeyman Geek

12:26 PM

lol

bertieb

De/soldering caps on PCBs makes me antsy

Journeyman Geek

I've tried that

bertieb

(poor eyesight)

Journeyman Geek

then more caps failed.

I also ran a PC I pulled from a dumpster for a while

bertieb

Oh dear

Aye?

Journeyman Geek

12:27 PM

lol

core 2 duo, roughly when sandy and nehalem were new

bertieb

Still seems relatively reasonable

Journeyman Geek

yup

dead video card, no hard drive, no monitor.

Bought the cheapest monitor I could live with, a boring hard drive, yanked the video card and ran it with integrated graphics ;p

bertieb

Ah, a mere bagatelle

Journeyman Geek

13

Q: Is it normal for a Dell Inspiron 530 to have is fan to spin up 3 times before it POSTS?

I picked up an used Dell 530 desktop. It seems to work, but it has an odd pattern of powering up the case fan (which might be faulty - it sounds like a jet engine) 3 times, while blinking the power light. No other fan seems to activate during the time, and it goes silent after that. I'm wonderi...

Awesome fun

bertieb

Well played, no reaosn not to do so

Journeyman Geek

12:29 PM

lol

video card was glitching, then I realised the darned thing had a vga port under a cap

bertieb

> I picked up an used Dell 530 desktop

That's a nice euphemism :P

Journeyman Geek

From the effective equivilent of the curb.

;p

bertieb

Well, I assume you carried it home so technically it was 'picked up'... ;P

Journeyman Geek

;p

yup

bertieb

Speaking of dead hard drives

badblocks was running fine, 0/0/0 most of the way through the 4th pass

Journeyman Geek

12:32 PM

actually, am likely to start thinking of upgrading my current PC the moment I'm employed again

she's essentially what I upgraded the dell to...

though the only part I used on the dell is probably my keyboard

bertieb

I wake up the morning and there are 60-odd unreadable sectors, and the reallocated sector count has leapt up to the 800s

Journeyman Geek

lol

backup data

bertieb

Knackered with a capital 'F' I think..

Journeyman Geek

then, how brave do you feel? ;p

bertieb

I feel that I might be able to justify getting rid of the drive!

(no data on it as badblocks was run in destructive mode)

Data was migrated off, thankfully

Journeyman Geek

12:34 PM

oh

reformat! For science!

lol

or you have a DOID

Burgi

Power
Red or
Yellow*
4 flashes
every 1 second,
or 2 flashes 1 second
apart followed by a 2
second pause
CPU thermal shutdown

fixable?

bertieb

Hah :P Don't tempt me... part of me wants to keep the drive around as it technically hasn't 'failed' yet

@JourneymanGeek DOID?

Dead on investigation disk?

Dead [o]array of inexpensive disks?

Journeyman Geek

drive of impending doom

@Burgi new thermal paste maybe

bertieb

@JourneymanGeek Heh, even better :P

Journeyman Geek

12:50 PM

(DOID was a hard drive on my laptop that failed tests and was replaced under warranty. I got to keep it. In explicably it keeps running until it fails. Then when I dig it up months later. Bloody thing runs again...)

So naturally I put it in my 3rd brix...

I figure the bad mojo will cancel each other out

2

bertieb

Sod's law; it'll work when you expect it to fail and fail when you expect it to work

Bob

@JourneymanGeek My DOID turned into a DOD after the format :P

@JourneymanGeek Did it work? :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob so far

I don't really run the brix much

Bob

@JourneymanGeek It's only 30W TDP... then again, that heatsink is tiny

@JourneymanGeek I'll swap it for one of these convertibles? :P

Journeyman Geek

@Bob or the thermal sensor is malfunctioning

@Bob I've had 2 die ;p

Bob

12:57 PM

Funnily enough, I wouldn't mind having a little server, but all I have is a pile of portables.

Journeyman Geek

I'd be tempted but its a terrible trade.

I would not run that 24/7

Bob

And the hardest part of 'little server' is, well... storage.

Journeyman Geek

lol

1tb + boot works for me

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Eh, I'd want redundancy.

About the only kind of home server I need is, well, storage.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob hm. Then a NUC class machine is the wrong form factor ;p

Bob

1:01 PM

@JourneymanGeek ...yea

Journeyman Geek

In theory I think I can swap the m.2 wifi card for a second SSD, get a bigger msata card ...

Bob

OTOH I've pretty much settled on external (USB) HDDs as the cheapest $/GB

Journeyman Geek

This quite literally is designed around very transient data, relatively low power, and smalls size

Twisty

1:13 PM

This question:

9

Q: Is there a command which can elevate the Command Prompt in place?

On *nix systems, you can get a root shell like so: $ su # or 'sudo -s' # The root shell is spawned in place within the same terminal. I'm trying to find something that does a similar, in-place elevation on the Windows Command Prompt. In other words, it should not spawn a new window or display...

windows command-line uac

user226528

Huh, I was reading that just now.

Twisty

Has 694 views. It's not on the HNQ, but was asked only 20 hours ago. It's racking up views pretty quick. How is it possible to get that many views without being on the HNQ?

user226528

There isn't, but there is a command that can launch a new Command Prompt as admin.

user226528

What's HNQ?

Twisty

Sorry, "Hot Network Questions"

Journeyman Geek

1:18 PM

Its on HNQ

Twisty

That's impossible. This question has to be on the HNQ and there must be some sort of rolling update to the lists

Journeyman Geek

No one really knows how it works but its there.

;p

Twisty

So you can see it? I'm going to try a different browser then.

Journeyman Geek

its also in random order...

Twisty

Well I'll be. There it is. I thought I was going crazy. Going to refill my coffee this very moment before Monday gets the better of me.

Journeyman Geek

1:27 PM

lol

For someone who dosen't care about em, I keep an eye out ;p

Mostly for fun stuff on other sites ;p

tho at this rate, thanks to a HNQ, I might be overtaking Wil this week \o/

Then I can finally see about pushing John T out of 4th place. (Number 2 and 3 are both active and awesome folk, so they're cool ;p)

That Brazilian Guy

1:41 PM

user226528

Question: Can I ask a tricky social question here?

That Brazilian Guy

@FleetCommand Is the tricky question the tricky question?

user226528

Well, I'll take the silence to mean "uncertainty".

user226528

Oh, wait. Should I? Historically, silence means consent.

user226528

Qui tacet consentire videtur, ubi loqui debuit ac potuit (He who is silent is taken to consent. He should have spoken when he was able to.)

That Brazilian Guy

1:46 PM

@FleetCommand Actually: "He who is silent seems to consent, where he ought to speak, and was able to"

user226528

Google Translate, clearly.

user226528

Although, now that I think more, in s**-ed classes, they taught us that silence definitely doesn't mean consent... under the threat of going to jail.

bertieb

What's the etiquette for answering cross-posted questions which are on-topic on either site?

There was one posted here which I think I can answer, but also posted earlier to U&L

That Brazilian Guy

@FleetCommand "s**-ed"?

@FleetCommand Obviously.

user226528

@bertieb Answer both and reap the reward twice.

bertieb

1:50 PM

@FleetCommand I kinda assumed if you shouldnt crosspost a quesiton, you also shouldn't crosspost an answer :P

I'd rather answer it here as I haven't any activity on U&L

but I'd even more rather answer it where it won't be deleted :P

That said, if it is acceptable practice to post an answer to both and wait for one to be deleted I'll do that

It just seemed like a slightly facetious comment :P

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb the rules on "crossposts" are kinda very oddly informal

that is to say, I don't actually have a clue what to do with those

Burgi

ikea.com/gb/en/products/desks/desk-computer-desks/…

its like a boobie!

Rahul2001

OH! I HAVE A SOLUTION! YAYYYY!

user226528

What? What?

Burgi

Journeyman Geek

2:04 PM

@Burgi that's one of the community managers ;p

Burgi

lol

bertieb

@JourneymanGeek Can I use that excuse ~~in court~~ if I fall afoul?

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb no idea ;p

bertieb

"In my defence, even JG said he wasn't sure..."

Journeyman Geek

@bertieb I'm nowhere near a definitive source though

bertieb

2:07 PM

@JourneymanGeek Yeah but if you don't know ~~WHAT HOPE DO WE HAVE~~ how do we know? :P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Burgi

@JourneymanGeek [CITATION NEEDED]

Journeyman Geek

34

A: What to do with cross-site duplicates?

You can't assume that all users will be on all sites. Each site has to stand on its own merits and you have to treat each site as a separate community. If a question is inappropriate on one site, users now have alternate places to go with it. It's a nice convenience if moderators choose to trans...

^ this guy is a definitive source

@Burgi I don't work for SE ;p

also meta.stackexchange.com/a/45859/135565 - Ivo is a current mod. Quack was a mod in the past.

@Burgi I'm a high rep moderator. ;p

Burgi

lies

Journeyman Geek

Metas are the place for case law, CMs for rulings outside that.

I merely interpret them

lol

If I ever end up working for SE, I'll let you know ;p

bertieb

2:14 PM

You say that, but I bet there's a small part of you that's tempted to say "I AM THE LAW", Judge Dredd-style

Journeyman Geek

lol

Actually, in most cases community team lets us run things as needed - except in extreme circumstances

I guess I am the law.

Oh my. I AM THE LAW.

2

bertieb

:D

Didn't that feel good? :P

Journeyman Geek

Naw, slightly scary actually

XKCD

Really, the only honest 24-hour stores are the ones in places like Arizona and Hawaii, and many of them are still wrong in certain years.

Burgi

lol

Journeyman Geek

2:19 PM

If you think about it, my actions have a lot more weight than if I was a regular user ;p

DavidPostill

(evil cackle)

Journeyman Geek

And some of the decisions you have to make are hard

bertieb

It's like being a doctor (they get that "oh crap" moment when they realise decisions have consequences too)

Journeyman Geek

lol

Essentially you need to balance between de-escalation and "the big picture" when it comes to real users.

The fake ones, meh, whack em.

@bertieb Its heavily people management and cat herding ;p

bertieb

@JourneymanGeek See also: being a doctor :P

Journeyman Geek

2:23 PM

I suppose

90% of it is people coming in with colds...

then... you're wondering, is that guy having a heart attack, or a bad case of gas?

or you're wondering what's the appropriate amount of force to use in a situation

djsmiley2k

ENOUGH TO SAVE THEIR LIFE

Journeyman Geek

lol

djsmiley2k

slightly less in yjr us as they are likely to sue you

Journeyman Geek

lol

We just get angry comments and meta posts.

._.

Apparently any complaints about me have been on main meta, not here

whaaat?

ah

for example meta.superuser.com/q/11944/10165

djsmiley2k

i see harry whinging a lot :/

Paul Vargas

2:36 PM

> Nowadays, the term reactive programming is trending.

^^^ From Packt Book: Learning Reactive Programming with Java 8

Journeyman Geek

@djsmiley2k well, he's an oldtimer, and some of the stuff that we have issues with were fine once

djsmiley2k

ah ok

Journeyman Geek

He just needs a little reinforcement on those changes

But that's an interesting thing though - something a mod has to work out is the best and fairest way to work with those situations

Rahul2001

Man, my new computer science textbook is making my cringe so hard

I want to sit in a corner and cry :(

Journeyman Geek

And I can't see that as 'whinging'. I need to see "Is he right?" and try to find the relevant rules

On the other hand...

djsmiley2k

2:44 PM

yah

Journeyman Geek

15

Q: What's our threshold for profanity in comments?

I just handled a bunch of flags on older comments, flagging the use of the word "bitch" as "complain" or "is a pain". Now certain words (mostly ones with 4 letters for some reason), I can get - but in this case, it seems like common, generally mildly inoffensive usage - talking about a situation...

discussion

This isn't the answers I wanted

But those are the right ones ;p

hm. 3rd day of repcapping from the USB C question <3

bertieb

@JourneymanGeek All part of "assume good faith", which we should all remind ourselves of :)

Journeyman Geek

yup

until proven otherwise

in which case the booties come off.

bertieb

Heh

Fair point

Journeyman Geek

With a 'famous' or 'regular' user, good faith is usually a given

allquixotic

3:11 PM

@MichaelFrank :(

Rahul2001

> The CPU is the control center for a computer.

DavidPostill

@Rahul2001 ? That's vaguely correct

Rahul2001

@DavidPostill "vague" defines this book very correctly

The definition of "process" is given as "the actual work being done".

Ben N

Now that's actually wrong, at least on Windows

Processes are just containers for threads, which run the code

Bob

@BenN eh... specific implementations may, of course, deviate from the theoretical definition

Burgi

3:44 PM

couldn't be buggered with that P3 so its going to the tip

going to try my celeron 333 which is in worse visual condition...

WOAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it exploded

2

Rahul2001

what?

Burgi

the PSU went BANG!!! and sparks flew out of the side

thats going to the tip too, lol

Bob

did you forget the voltage switch? :P

bertieb

> it exploded

Ah, how those old Pentiums used to run hot...

Burgi

@Bob no but you did make me check

@bertieb celeron

bertieb

3:57 PM

Just a little joke; think the P4 was worse for heat than the P3

tereško

3

bertieb

Been $years so my memory may have been bitflipped by cosmic rays since then

Burgi

if any one wants a P3 733 which needs new thermal paste (probably) or a celeron 333 (of dubious condition) let me know because otherwise they are going to the tip in about 15 mins

@Rahul2001 this celeron is older than you

bertieb

Save it for Nov 5th and fire it up (heh) again then ? ;P

HackToHell

cogentindustries.com/products/theone

THE ONE PEN

Burgi

4:00 PM

@bertieb i don't want it clogging up my flat

bertieb

Also your municipal domestic waste centre may have a place for recycling computers

Y'know, all them minerals

Burgi

they do

bertieb

@Burgi Another joke :P

Burgi

i was there on saturday with all my ikea boxes

lol, i'm glad my GF wasn't here when i turned on the celeron

it would have made her cry

women are always going "don't do that, its not safe..."

what could possible go wrong with plugging in an 18yo computer that has been stored in the garden shed for the last century

bertieb

@Burgi I've got another broom if you want to make some more sweeping statements :P

Burgi

4:05 PM

you can't tell me your SO hasn't given you skeptical looks when you've done DIY/home electronics

bertieb

shrug My SO was under my car assisting with an oil change last week

Different people are different :)

Burgi

fair enough

if i go now i can get to my mum's for dinner...

ttyl

DavidPostill

@Burgi You have to learn to cook now you have your own place :)

Bob

@Burgi depends how much the shipping costs? :P

@HackToHell ...meh, fancy-ish body but still typical rollerball

Nick

4:25 PM

Hi. Quick challenge. Make a pic comparing Richard Stallman (RMS) to Zach Galifianakis.

Your time starts now.

allquixotic

I have no idea who the latter is

BloodPhilia

Oi Pipeloi!

GFSE

GemsFromStackExchange: I don’t even think it’s NAA.

posted on April 17, 2017

I don’t even think it’s NAA.

allquixotic

4:41 PM

bertieb

I think I did it wrong

grin

Nick

@allquixotic I said compare. Not merge. But yeah, I expected that answer.

@bertieb better than allquixotic's attempt.

DavidPostill

4:57 PM

@Nick What is the point of this challenge?

bertieb

@Nick Might have worked better if I'd used roughly similar images ;)

Nick

@DavidPostill Someone pointed this out to me today morning and I just wanted to make everyone I know aware of this. Now, none of you will EVER forget this.

@allquixotic It's like the same dude.

DavidPostill

@Nick That doesn't really answer the question.

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