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Dawny33

10:38 AM

What exactly does "being on-call" mean?

Reading this article:

increment.com/on-call/on-call-at-any-size

It's pretty interesting. :)

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Richard Slater

12:38 PM

> Many startups have unfortunately managed to create high-availability, responsive, and scalable ways to serve error pages

that made me laugh

Richard Slater

12:53 PM

Q: Looking at a Career jump into DevOps and advice or suggested reading

I've been in various facets of Software development over the past 10+ years. I started in the development side of the Application Lifecycle Management(= ALM) cycle, and more recently I've been working in the QA side of ALM. One thing that has consistently bothered me was all the different compa...

In response to this question, might it be valuable to have a Community Wiki question and answer about Book Recommendations?

Aurora0001

CW for questions is generally discouraged now, but I wouldn't be against just having a question for specific books suggestions as a normal question

Motivation for that is here:

The Future of Community Wiki

Grace Note on August 19, 2011

When you mark a post community wiki on a Stack Exchange site, that means …

this post can be edited by anyone with 100 reputation

this post does not generate any reputation for anyone when upvoted or downvoted

The main advantage of community wiki — more editing — was nerfed when we introduced suggested edits. With suggested edits, anyone, even an anonymous user, can edit anything — so long as another experienced user reviews and approves their edit. …

The trouble with a book recommendation question is that people just say 'I like ____' without any justification. If the question is moderated properly, that can be overcome, though.

This is also a good read for asking a good book recommendation question that doesn't devolve into polling, spam and low quality posts:

A: Why is "The Definitive C++ Book List" question allowed, but other book recommendation questions are not?

The big problem with book recommendation posts - and similar questions - is that they tend to devolve into polls: For me, and I think I speak for many others, the only time you really know you’re looking at a poll is when you see those one-line answers. But we can only close questions. Is it ...

Dawny33

1:13 PM

@RichardSlater haha. But, I didn't get why she used "unfortunately" there. Possible to explain why?

Richard Slater

CommunityWiki is indeed an imprecise tool, my main argument for creating a CW question and answer is to remove the rep from the equation. If we created one answer that was CW and then locked the question in the same vein as the "C++ Book" ?

Aurora0001

I do like the rep factor though, because of the discouragement of putting bad answers (downvotes actually take rep)

As long as the answers are of the same standard as usual, why should it need to be CW?

And if the answers aren't going to be of a good standard... I'm against it altogether

That's just my thinking though; I think a meta post might be a good idea to avoid it getting closed etc.

Richard Slater

@Dawny33 not sure how to explain it - I guess it comes down to "Big Dev, Little Ops" - sometimes a developer or sysadmins get really good at optimizing things to the point where they say "All of our pages load in 500ms or less", to which you can respond "yes, but 65% of your responses are 503 Service Unavailable.

Richard Slater

1:29 PM

Q: Book Recommendation Question

We have a question requesting suggested reading, the question itself is quite broad and the answers have the potential to be opinion rather than fact: It has three upvotes and three downvotes, It has three close votes. My recommendation was to post a new Community Wiki question with suggested...

discussion off-topic opinion-based

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Dawny33

5:19 PM

@RichardSlater Looks like the community do like narrowed down reference recommendations :D

Good job with the ChatOps question!

Richard Slater

I'm all about experiments :)

Aurora0001

Let's just hope the answers are good too ;)

Feeds

5:34 PM

Q: What is our definition of Deployment?

Tensbai and I discussed this on chat already posting this here mainly to record the decision. The deployment tag uses the following definition of 'deployment': Use this tag for questions about deployment, which is about all the activities to make (part of) a system available for use in some ...

discussion tags terminology

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Tensibai

7:57 PM

@RichardSlater it has been lock because any answer will fade off in usefulness and correctness ... there is no point in a long term goal to build this kind of Q/A imho

Maybe I'll try to word this in a more objective and factual manner in an answer

(I say maybe because I'm unsure I can word it objectively)

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