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12:06 AM
@SuspendedUser - i don't have a working screen
 
12:32 AM
Pull the battery so you know it's off, use the button combo to reboot to recovery, then adb device to check?
@Batman
 
@SuspendedUser - couldn't get that to work
i've got in with a usb otg cable
and a keyboard and samsung kies
just trying to get my contacts out and maybe some texts
 
1:21 AM
I store all my pics on the sd card and all my contacts are gmail....if my phone died, I just need to reinstall apps on the new one.
Sorry to hear that. I end up tinkering for like a month with every new phone to custom boot loader, os, etc. It's always a pain. Phone tinkering sucks.
 
yeah. i got the contacts out which are the important part
texts would have been nice, but not essential
photos are out too. they were on sd card
contacts were a bit weird since some of them were sync'd with google others weren't for some reason
but on the other hand, i did clean up my contact list
 
1:44 AM
im going to try to get the text messages off but they seem to be in some proprietary samsung thing. or i don't know where signal puts them
if it still uses the old backing store or something
but otherwise just need to wipe it
 
 
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2:50 AM
Nice! Well at least not a total loss then.
@Batman /data/data/com.android.providers.telephony/databases/mmssms.db?
Mine seem to be stuck there.
 
doesn't appear like i could grab that from android file transfer or kies
oh well
nothing of great worth in textmessages
anyway, i was able to wipe it through google play
 
3:08 AM
nice, send it my way and I'll put it in the drawer with all the rest
 
Consider airdroid for your next phone. It might make things easier.
 
The G3 with the 20 minutes battery, the ZUltra permanently warped to the shape of my ass (I didn't know glass could bend!) and the original Note minus the pen but plus a massive battery with cover which the Hulk could use to end the moon.
 
@SuspendedUser - might try to replace the screen when i have a bit more time
 
depending on how old it is, you could probably find a goodish condition one on ebay for the same price as the screen
 
yeah. more for the fun of it though
 
3:13 AM
@SuspendedUser hah I checked my collection the other day..... A motorola flip from 1994, a nokia 6120 from 1998, and my current phone is a nokia 6310i from 2002 and still in use.
 
 
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5:31 AM
I've a Sony Z5 that's about to give up the ghost
I dropped it some time back and the screen broke, so one new screen and back later it was working OK
then my daughter stood on it, so it has no back at all now.
and now the mics given up
and the cameras are so full of dust they're worthless
so I'm using a nokia the number of which escapes me, but is from the MS era
looks like early 90s though
and in a box in cambodia there's a nexus 5 with a broken power button, which went mouldy in storage, and a htc desire that's just too slow to anything worthwhile with
previous to that, I had a nokia n95 and sony erikson t610
the t610 was the best phone i ever owned
 
6:13 AM
My current phone has been in use for 15 years.
 
 
3 hours later…
9:32 AM
And... I've just dropped my z5 smashing the screen again
ha
 
I damage the floor whenever I drop my phone.
 
10:13 AM
You ought to put some phone screen protector on your fine bone china floors mate.
How do you manage to keep it charged? When I had one of those phones that were useless for internet I forgot to charge it for months. No reason to turn it on, and it doesn't make a sound when dry.
 
 
2 hours later…
12:41 PM
I used to buy all the screen protector and case garbage. Then I realized I rarely enough drop my phone that it isn't worth it. The screen get buff scratched slowly, but usually by the time it starts bothering me it's been a year and it's time for a new one.
 
 
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2:26 PM
I like a slim case, such that there is a rim around the screen and it doesn't touch the surface it is placed upon. This avoids most of the scratches.
Perhaps I ought to ask how to correctly measure brake drop. Saw two different ways.
Oh, just asked Sheldon: "The effective length of the arms of a caliper brake. This is measured from the centerline of the center bolt diagonally down to the middle of the brake shoe. Reach is commonly expressed as a range (allowing for the fact that the brake shoes are adjustable, typically over a 10-15 mm range.) "
 
@SuspendedUser i dunno. for the first 2 years i had this phone, i used a case. Then i took it off
the problem with a lot of these phones is one drop to a corner will kill it
 
I guess I am less dropsy than some
or luckier
 
yeah. its just when the luck runs out
its sorta like insurance
the other thing is that this phone is kinda small. so the big case makes it easier to hold without worrying about dropping it
 
I like big big big phones
actually I like big big big screens
not the big big big phone so much
the majority of time my screen spends on it is being used as a eReader
 
2:43 PM
I use my e-reader for most of the reading, it integrates an offline reading app. I just click on the phone on 'share to pocket' and sync my ereader and have comfortable off-line reading.
is prodcut advise ok here in chat? (re written gist of del. msg.)
 
sure.
 
Tektro brakes have bad reputation. Someone on SE liked their aluminium to stamped cheese.
Are other manufacturers competing with the big three as bad? In particular Dia-Compe.
 
Tektro brakes are inexpensive. They provide what you pay for.
My phone will allow me to read offline. And I have it on my all the time, so it's not another device to carry.
 
OEM prices sure, Consumer prices they are usually more expensive than Shimano Tiagra and below. However, I've only found Tektro and Dia-Compe long reach calipers.
 
I am pretty sure Tektro has levels similar to any other manufacturer.
Looks like they only have one "long arms" caliper on their site though, sounds like a dice roll to me.
Product advise is fine in chat. I will tell you all about how much I hate SRAM chains.
 
2:56 PM
For cost reasons we use KMC and Wippermann (some German mfg unknown elsewhere) anyway :-)
 
the budget tektro stuff is crap (which is most of what tektro sells; cheaper than shimano / sram/ whatever)
the upper end tektro stuff (e.g. trp) is not crap. few duds sometimes, but quality stuff.
 
All my chains are Wipperman.
 
chances are if something is spec'd with tektro though, its the budget stuff
 
I've never broken one.
 
Some context:

http://bicycles.stackexchange.com/a/45641/30402
 
3:55 PM
I have the Tektro long arms on my commuter (which I no longer can ride after my accident). They were just fine, with emphasis on 'fine' being a gradation.
Better than the 1970s that were on it.
 
4:08 PM
Thanks, that's ~convincing~ ..err.. helpful.
I feared that the long reach lever would require to much torque for the given mechanical advantage.
 
 
6 hours later…
10:01 PM
You just need good brake pads. I got the salmon colored whachamacallits.
 
I just check total costs getting drop bars. Considered also cow-horns, but read that breaking with those reverse levers is bad all the time. Better to be able to got at least to the hooks for decent braking. If hoods doesn't work properly, i get an interrupter for the front.
 
10:15 PM
For some reason ebay sellers of drop bars under 15 euro don't bother to provide reach and drop.
 
10:30 PM
"koolstop " make the salmon pads - there are lots of different sorts.
 
15 euros probably doesn't get you a decent bar (or a retailer who knows about bars)
thats about 16 usd which wouldn't get you squat
 
i don't care for weight, thick walled aluminium is ok.
I'll go for a Rose one, that way i can be certain it is reliable.
 
mmmmm there's cheap and then there's too-cheap :-\
 
17 + 5 shipping.
 
yeah. this is in too cheap territory fo rusd
a decent bar is at least 30+
 
10:33 PM
here, a cheap drop bar would be $100-150 NZ
which is about 65-100 euro or USD
 
well, sale, regular price is 22. There's no question about reliability with them. It's their own house brand, stuff you get as default with their bikes.
 
Shout yourself some new tape while you're at it.
Oh wow
I'm envious then.
 
it's nothing special, no performance stuff. But they cannot risk bad rep.
https://www.rosebikes.com/product/detail/aid:488452
entry level FSA cost 25
 
Nice! cheap!
 
I heard practically everything costs twice as much in NZ.
:-(
Wow, reviews for a Kenda tire sound horrible, rough translation "Tire as light and supple as a Marathon with the puncture resistance of running directly on inner tubes."
I was tempted to try a yellow one for only 6 euro. But no.
 
10:45 PM
yeah the price gives that one away
NZ is a long way from anywhere, and its all water, so everything imported carries freight costs.
 
Well, it could have been that cheap because of the incredibly ugly colour.
Well, good tires cost about 10, so price alone isn't indicative of rubbish.
 
jesus- I pay $50 for a cheap crap road ttyre
 
Well, its also none of the expensive brands, Schwalbe, Conti, Vredestein. Not Maxxis or Hutchinson.
 
11:07 PM
@RoboKaren are Tektro brake cartridges compatible with Shimano style pads?
 
11:18 PM
those are the blocks provided with the brakes: tektro.com/products.php?p=140
What's the reason salmons are always recommended, not black or dual/triple compound cool stops?
 
11:58 PM
Tektro RL-340 levers are also sold as XLC BL-R01 (these even have 'tektro' molded in the rubber). Cost about a tenner less.
 

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