English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

8:00 PM

@KitFox there we go. independent confirmation!

Mahnax

or.cdn.sstatic.net/chat/css/…

How messy.

KitFox

If you search for Cantonese "kap" you get a lot of sources saying that.

I'm trying to figure out what the Mandarin word would be.

Cerberus

I think I will only be able to identify the occasional sentence, except when I can follow the dialogue, which is hardly possible with so many people talking.

Matt Эллен

@Mahnax vitaly?

dang

Mahnax

@MattЭллен Hmm?

Cerberus

8:02 PM

But I guess I won't be able to click-reply to anyone unless you guys find some way to hide all mentions. That will be annoying.

Matt Эллен

@Mahnax I was trying to guess who is saying what (I have avatars etc hidden)

@Cerberus you can!

oh, right

Mahnax

@MattЭллен Oooh, sneaky.

Cerberus

Haha.

@MattЭллен Okay now I want it too!

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus well, the instructions on where to put the css are here

then you need the css that Vitaly showed earlier

Cerberus

Oh, just that line?

Vitaly

8:05 PM

but it still doesn't hide the at-mentioned names

Cerberus

What if I add it as a Userstyle?

Vitaly

@Cerberus those two lines

Matt Эллен

yeah, it won't hide @mentions

@-moz-document url(chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/95/english-language-and-usage) {
 .signature {
  visibility: hidden;
 }
}

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

CSS is Cascading Style Sheets and not Cascading Substance Sheets therefore Style != Substance. QED

Vitaly

.signature { display: none !important;}
#present-users { display: none !important;}

@Cerberus ^

Cerberus

8:06 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 You brat! You're lucky I haven't turned it on yet.

@Vitaly Not Matt's lines?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

19 mins to go, 200 ahead. I start. @Kit @Vit

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus I had sexual relations with a cascading style sheet

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Vitaly

I don't know how FF works, but Matt's lines miss the present-users ID

Matt Эллен

I can't find that :D

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

No missing the present-users ID in this chat.

Cerberus

8:07 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Now I know all those stupid lines will come from you, thanks!

Vitaly

Haha.

Cerberus

Yay! You're all invisible!

KitFox

Quick everybody say random shit!

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus cerberus?

Cerberus

Hmm...

Matt Эллен

8:08 PM

yay!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

No saying random shit in this chat.

Matt Эллен

I had sexual relations with don cheadle

KitFox

Shit is beautiful.

Cerberus

That Quick guy is Mrs H.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

My daughter, when she gets mad at me, says "You're invisible!"

Matt Эллен

8:09 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 mr shiny and new

yeah!

Robusto

@Vitaly Eeeuwww. Use of the !important directive ...

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus bzzt

Cerberus

Was I right? Ghosts, speak to me!

Mahnax

Ghosts? Where?

Matt Эллен

what quick guy?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

8:09 PM

@Cerberus pfft as if you've ever been right in this chat room

Matt Эллен

pfft is Mr Shiny and New

Robusto

@MrShinyandNew安宇 He's right here, right now.

Cerberus

I have a feeling none of you is acting naturally.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus naturally, we're acting

Mahnax

Multi grain cats are, in fact, the best.

KitFox

8:10 PM

giggles

Vitaly

Your mind is playing tricks on you. How droll.

Matt Эллен

quick! act natural whistles

Cerberus

Quick guy was the one who started his line with Quick earlier.

KitFox

@Cerberus Nope!

Cerberus

And that "quick!" girl is Kit!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

8:11 PM

@Cerberus which quick girl?

Cerberus

And I'm assuming you're all aping Matt's lack of capitals so I can't go by that.

Matt Эллен

oh I see the present users now!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

No aping Matt's lack of capitals in this chat.

Cerberus

@quick! girl: you know who you are. I can only point to lines by quoting their first words, dammit!

Matt Эллен

I only do it accidentally

Cerberus

8:12 PM

And the "Your mind is playing tricks" guy is Vit!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus oh you mean the "act natural" one... not Kit

Vitaly

Boo.

Cerberus

Oh, wait, I can reply! I thought the arrow refused to reply.

KitFox

Ahahahaha

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Then you must be Matt!

Yayy victory!

Matt Эллен

8:13 PM

:D

:D

:D

:D

And you, Ahaha guy, are faux-Ale.

And all of you laughing ghosts give me a headache!

KitFox

What?

Cerberus

8:14 PM

Alenanno laughs in Italian.

@Vitaly You're Vit!

KitFox

Oh.

Cerberus

Yay!

Got another one!

KitFox

I love the word droll.

Cerberus

I like it too.

Vitaly

Vitaly is Vit. QED.

Cerberus

8:15 PM

Shut up Mrs H.

I know it's you!

Robusto

@Cerberus Italians don't laugh.

giggles

Not even...

giggles

@Robusto Jasper!

8:15 PM

@Cerberus Wrong.

Dammit.

Hahahahaha!!!

giggles

I was close!

In what universe?

8:15 PM

ducks

Hahaha.

KitFox

I think Vit is having fun! Wow! Let's all take a moment and remember this...moment.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Hey what's going on here? ♫♪

Cerberus

I knew you'd bite, Rob.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

So what the heck is going on here. I know this is the Incomprehensible room, but it was never meant to be incomprehensible for me.

KitFox

Cerberus is wearing a blindfold and guessing who we are.

A CSS blindfold that is.

Matt Эллен

8:17 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 that must be grace note

Cerberus

Who are you, eerie music?

damn you

@RegDwightѬſ道 Rob!

And wheeeeeeeeeeee

Ahh dammit.

8:17 PM

Hehehe. Nice one, @MrShiny.

Cerberus

I didn't know your ghost was here too.

KitFox

Also, Matt is blindfolded.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Ohh Matt, you're blindfolded too?

Cool.

KitFox

We have a war to win, @Cerberus!

Cerberus

@KitFox Owl!

Mahnax

8:18 PM

:D

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Yeah it's like the blindfolded leading the blindfolded.

@Cerberus yeah :D

Sneaky.

Who me? Sneaky?

Yes, you!

8:19 PM

Are you sure?

Cerberus

You would never say that.

Vitaly

0

Q: Another word for "apply"?

I'm in the middle of creating a web form, where users can apply for a certain service. In order to do so, they are clicking the apply button. Then they fill out a form and submit it. Later on, they can view their application status, which indicates whether the application has been processed or no...

gen ref?

Cerberus

@Vitaly Sim or Jas!

Vitaly

Hah!

Cerberus

Damn.

Then what are you doing??

Mahnax

8:20 PM

lol brah u ben triked big thyme

Cerberus

Who are you? reaches out, finds only thin air

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Frankly this whole game is only supporting the null hypothesis of @Cerb not being able to tell anyone from their writing style.

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Vit!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

:D

Cerberus

Mahnax

8:21 PM

Likes games, knew she would, knew she would.

Cerberus

I got several of you right.

And you're obfuscating your styles on purpose.

Matt Эллен

@MrShinyandNew安宇 vitaly?

damnit

Mahnax

Obfuscation is not my strong suit.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен I guessed the same!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

What, is Vit the only one who knows the phrase "null hypothesis"?

Matt Эллен

8:22 PM

hearts is my strong suit

@MrShinyandNew安宇 no, Vit was the one who was challenging him earlier

Cerberus

@MattЭллен You can't be Jas, because he is physically incapable of not using capitals. So Matt?

Yay!

:D

Matt! ^

:D

me?

8:23 PM

:D

Matt Эллен

oh, right I shouldn't reply to my name

Cerberus

That laughing ghost there was you, I meant.

Matt Эллен

that kinda defeats the purpose

Mahnax

More than a little bit.

Cerberus

It's OK.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

8:24 PM

No defeating the purpose in this chat.

Cerberus

But the seeing are not really participating in a natural conversation.

Matt Эллен

the seeing?

Cerberus

They're only trying to lead us into ditches and ravines.

Mahnax

Those who can see.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен The not-blindfolded

Cerberus

8:24 PM

We are the blindfolded, they are the seeing.

Matt Эллен

oh!

of course

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

it's a bit one-sided, doncha think?

Matt Эллен

yeah, they are messing with our heads

Cerberus

Yeah, the bastards.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

anyway if everyone was blind this room would be truly incomprehensible

Mahnax

8:25 PM

Banana banana banana terracotta banana terracotta terracotta pie.

Cerberus

See how Matt and I can just have a normal conversation even though we're both blindfolded?

Matt Эллен

@Mahnax MetaEd?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

why can't they just act normally

Matt Эллен

damnit

Cerberus

We rule!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

8:26 PM

we do

Matt Эллен

indeed

Cerberus

When we're not losing.

Mahnax

@MattЭллен Oh, come on, I told you that I liked SOAD and you couldn't get that?

Matt Эллен

is confused

@Mahnax sorry, my SOAD skillz are lacking

Cerberus

is too

Who is SOAD?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

8:27 PM

is three

Cerberus

Is it a nuclear installation?

Matt Эллен

System of a Down

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I know a guy who had sexual relations with someone named Soad

Cerberus

Ahh. I like SoaD!

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Kit!

Mahnax

Tricked!

Matt Эллен

8:28 PM

what album is it from @Mahnax?

Cerberus

Dammit.

Now just go have a normal conversation, phantoms.

Mahnax

@MattЭллен Hypnotize.

Cerberus

While I get some tea.

Mahnax

But normalcy is no fun.

Matt Эллен

@Mahnax ah! I still have got that one, or mesmerize

Vitaly

8:29 PM

No normal conversations in this chat.

Cerberus

@Mahnax Mrs H!

Mahnax

Trickery and slyness!

Except not really.

Cerberus

Some of you are very much alike!

Oh, the creator of one of my favourite programs told me yesterday that "nobody uses XP any more".

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Robusto

@Cerberus Sorry for gloating, but ...

Cerberus

When was talking about a certain bug that only occurs on XP.

Matt Эллен

8:31 PM

@Cerberus was it the creator of AHK?

Sonic The Hedgehog

@Cerb what is it?

Cerberus

@Robusto Yes you must be Mrs H! I command it!

Sonic The Hedgehog

...?

Mahnax

@Cerberus I like XP more than any other Windows OS.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Sorry @Cerb I was AFK... those weren't me

Robusto

8:31 PM

Nobody uses XP? Nobody uses covered wagons either, it may surprise you to know.

KitFox

I've had sexual relations with the creator of AHK.

Sonic The Hedgehog

I love Windows 7.

Cerberus

Ahhh too many ghosts, too many voices....

Robusto

@Cerberus I don't even know who that is.

Mahnax

@SonicTheHedgehog vomits

Cerberus

8:32 PM

@Mahnax Sim!

Sonic The Hedgehog

@Mahnax Hey!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Mahnax come on, it ain't that bad

Cerberus

Damn. I should have known.

Sonic The Hedgehog

Its perfectly good software!

Vitaly

This reminds me of a LessWrong article! Now just let me find the link ...

Robusto

8:32 PM

@SonicTheHedgehog I don't love any computer OS. I've had my heart broken too many times.

KitFox

lol

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Just when I was trying to lure you out of your hole...

Sonic The Hedgehog

@Rob You're Mac lover, then?

Cerberus

@Vitaly NOT Vit!

Vitaly

@KitFox nice one

Cerberus

8:33 PM

Fuuu......

Mahnax

@SonicTheHedgehog He just said he doesn't love any OS.

Vitaly

Haha. Got Cerberus thanks to Kit.

Robusto

@SonicTheHedgehog Back to reading comprehension class for you.

1 min ago, by Robusto

@SonicTheHedgehog I don't love any computer OS. I've had my heart broken too many times.

Cerberus

@Robusto Jasper! I refuse to believe that anyone could come up with this.

Again! See? You two are much alike.

KitFox

high fives Vit

Robusto

8:33 PM

@Cerberus I am like myself?

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto he means you and jasper

Mahnax

@Robusto gasp You're Jasper?

Thanks, Matt.

@Cerberus matt who?

@Mahnax Bob?

8:34 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Let's not say things we can't take back.

Cerberus

Yay!!

Matt Эллен

what?

Mahnax

@Cerberus Dang, I gasp too much.

Matt Эллен

I am so confused

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Robusto it's because he's blindfolded

Mahnax

8:34 PM

Pourquoi? @Matt

Cerberus

Yeah it was a gasp, but not a Kit-gasp, nor a MrsH-gasp.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Matt and Cerb are using CSS to hide the names and avatars and trying to guess who's saying what

Cerberus

So it had to be yours.

KitFox

I don't gasp!

Matt Эллен

@Mahnax I can't tell who's saying what, and why did someone thank me :D

Mahnax

8:35 PM

@KitFox Lies!

Robusto

I am only Robusto. If you can't figure that out by now, then I just don't know what.

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Sonic? I saw your name pop up when you joined the room...

Matt Эллен

lol

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@MattЭллен Cerb thought I was you

it's the capital letters

Cerberus

Ohh...I suppose you would be confused too, Matt.

Matt Эллен

8:35 PM

oh!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

or lack theroef

Mahnax

Jan 24 at 17:57, by Kitḫ

gasp

Jan 11 at 18:08, by Kitḫ

gasp

KitFox

I am only Robusto. He is me and I am him.

Cerberus

@Mahnax Vit?

KitFox

@Mahnax You keep blowing my cover.

Mahnax

8:36 PM

@KitFox Sorry.

@Cerberus Nein.

Cerberus

Meh.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

golly! this is confusing

Matt Эллен

hey! no imitating me

Cerberus

So did y'all hear about the EC? They postponed ratifying ACTA!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

hey! you're imitating me!

KitFox

8:37 PM

imitation is the highest form of flattery

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

imitating me imitating you imitating me!

Cerberus

Hmm was it the EC, actually? I think it was? They are going to let the EU Court of Justice decide.

KitFox

there is no limitation on imitation

Matt Эллен

it's harldy a fair experiment if people are trying to be other people!

Cerberus

Who will no doubt crush it.

@MattЭллен I know! It's very annoying.

Mahnax

8:38 PM

@Cerberus ec.europa.eu/commission_2010-2014/reding/pdf/…

Matt Эллен

@Cerberus yeah, I got an email from those guys

KitFox

OK, fine.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

I had sexual relations with people once.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox kit?

yeah!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

No trying to be other people in this chat.

Cerberus

8:39 PM

@Mahnax Oops I don't have a PDF reader installed yet, Vit or MrsH or Rob.

Dammnnnnn.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus You're just flailing around now.

KitFox

I am Spartacus.

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I am, Rob.

Mahnax

@Cerberus That is almost sad... :D

Cerberus

See?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

8:40 PM

I, Robusto.

Mahnax

I think you should remove your blindfold and read through all the nonsense.

Cerberus

No, it's fun this way.

Vitaly

Yay the pooch is having fun!

Cerberus

And I have an excuse not to pay attention to whichever line I don't understand!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Those who would remove someone else's blindfold should first remove their own.

Mahnax

8:40 PM

I have to leave in six minutes.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Cerberus wow that must save you a lot of time

Cerberus

You're all fake Jaspers.

Matt Эллен

lol

Mahnax

@Cerberus How dare you!

Cerberus

@Mahnax Bob?

Mahnax

8:41 PM

@Cerberus Obviously.

Cerberus

Yay!!

@Mahnax Arentcha?

Mahnax

@Cerberus No.

KitFox

Jasper is easy. Let's try something harder.

Cerberus

Perhaps not you.

KitFox

Where is @aedia, anyway?

Cerberus

8:42 PM

I was supposed to guess in normal conversations...

Yeah where's my favourite beetle?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

There's normal conversations in this room?

KitFox

Well, you shall have to try when your quarry doesn't realize you are blindfolded.

Cerberus

She would enjoy this.

KitFox

She's not a beetle!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

She's the new beetle.

KitFox

8:43 PM

She's lepidoptera, silly!

Cerberus

@KitFox I will do so.

Авпваойцехрварждоы.

Bye everyone!

@Mahnax Bye!

@Cerberus well, you could switch back to normal and go into blindfold mode at an unspecified point in the future, that way people wouldn't know you were doing it, so they wouldn't make thing difficult

RegDwight Ѭſ道

8:44 PM

Hey is it sunset again?

Matt Эллен

cya @Mahnax

KitFox

1 min ago, by KitFox

Well, you shall have to try when your quarry doesn't realize you are blindfolded.

Jinx!

Cerberus

Epomis beetle is my nickname for her. Or even larva, when she's really nice.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

No jinxing yourself in this chat.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox true, but I started writing before you hit enter.

Cerberus

8:44 PM

@MattЭллен Yes I will do that, Vit?

Matt Эллен

I'm just less succint

Cerberus

Oh.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Self-quote does not a valid jinx make.

KitFox

@MattЭллен Well, I used the word quarry.

Cerberus

Vitaly is poisoning the expected frequency by not talking. Or is he?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

8:45 PM

You tell me.

Cerberus

@Vitaly Not Reg!

KitFox

Maybe he is, maybe he isn't.

Matt Эллен

@KitFox a better word, no doubt

Cerberus

Hahah!

Vitaly

:D

Matt Эллен

8:45 PM

time for the blindfold to come off

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

No poisoning the expected frequency in this chat.

Cerberus

In any case, I know what Vit's like: he would always try to obfuscate things.

KitFox

No expecting frequency in this chat.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

No frequenting expectations in this chat.

KitFox

How are you feeling today, @Vitaly?

Cerberus

8:46 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 You'r funny, but I don't know who you are. Kit?

@KitFox Then this is Kit?

KitFox

No frequently poisoning in this chat.

Cerberus

Yay!

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

Kit are you blindfolded too?

KitFox

No.

Vitaly

@KitFox Noone loves me. I am sad. :(

Cerberus

8:47 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 I don't think so?

KitFox

I love you!

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Last time Peter Noone loved me, I was quite sad, too.

KitFox

I love everybody, especially you!

Cerberus

@Vitaly Unpossible! Vit would never forget the trema.

growls Unless he's trying to mess with me. That is of course always his prime objective.

KitFox

Fsck I love boobs though.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

8:48 PM

No loving boobs in... wait, I'll allow it!

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 This you, Vit?

Oh.

Okay, I'm taking off the blindfold for now.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Cerberus, by now you should have guessed correctly more often by pure chance.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@RegDwightѬſ道 well, we did try hard to stack the deck against him

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 I think I have guessed right far better than random, and that with all of your trying to fool me.

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Me?

I wasn't even aware of what was going on.

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

8:50 PM

moi?

RegDwight Ѭſ道

Le chat, c'est moi.

Cerberus

But I thought you might, see, so I couldn't even go by your normal quirks and follies.

Vitaly

@Cerberus are you telling me that linking to LW is not my normal quirk? :P

because that's when you said “NOT Vit”

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Vitaly But once everyone was pretending to be everyone else he had to second guess the "expected" behaviour

RegDwight Ѭſ道

@Cerberus Yeah but that's no justification for blaming me now that you know for sure that I wasn't even there.

Cerberus

8:52 PM

@Vitaly Yeah, well, it seemed too obvious.

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Exactly. And I succeeded a few times.

KitFox

So @Vitaly, first let's define consistent.

Cerberus

@RegDwightѬſ道 Why can't I blame you? Oh, by the way, why did you let Santorum beat Romney??

Bad bird.

Matt Эллен

@RegDwightѬſ道 but if you're a cat, how can you be an owl? Owlcat! OMG

Cerberus

@MattЭллен Are you still in the dark?

The ghosts have materialized for me.

Matt Эллен

no, I took my blindfold off a few minutes ago

Cerberus

8:54 PM

Ah OK.

Matt Эллен

8 mins ago, by Matt Эллен

time for the blindfold to come off

Cerberus

@MattЭллен See, someone else might have been telling you that.

Vitaly

@KitFox not fluid!

KitFox

@Vitaly How about something a bit more rigorous?

Matt Эллен

@KitFox consisting of things

Cerberus

8:55 PM

My chocolate cheesecake has excellent consistency.

Matt Эллен

:D

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

so @Cerb did you tell us which XP program is no longer supported by its creator?

Vitaly

@KitFox now you're just trying to imitate Cerberus

Matt Эллен

@MrShinyandNew安宇 is it XP ;)

KitFox

One of Vit's premises is that human behavior is not consistent. In order to argue the point, we must first agree to an operational definition of consistent behavior.

Matt Эллен

8:56 PM

to which the answer is, sadly, no

Mr. Shiny and New 安宇

@Vitaly too easy. "Etymology is the same as meaning! XP is good enough for anyone! I can't code but I code in AHK"

Cerberus

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Strokes Plus. But in the end he changed the program to include a special option just for me, so the problem is solved.

Matt Эллен

nice!

Cerberus

@Vitaly You blindfolded too?

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Didn't say anyone.