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2:00 PM

@EliahKagan I think the OP's main question is "what's going on? How does apt decide which kernels to keep" so that answer which basically says "it doesn't, you do" is answering the question. Not particularly well, mind you, but I do see it as an answer.

Eliah Kagan

Okay.

Rinzwind

@DavidFoerster not me :=) but I can have a look at them to see if you deserve more

There 2 more _O-

did not want to overdo it ;X

Oli

@DavidFoerster Ping one of us tomorrow —once they've been automatically reversed— and we might be able to tell you.

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind as always ... ready to push some joking here ... Hi Rinzy ! :) Good afternoon ! :)

Rinzwind

boxy! oly! :) Terdy! good afternoon

David Foerster

2:08 PM

@Rinzwind Haha, thanks for the offer.

Rinzwind

:D

David Foerster

One more and I reach the daily cap.

Rinzwind

nice. I am far from it today :P

Eliah Kagan

Well, I believe the reversal will recalc rep for the other upvotes you get today. So the serial voting shouldn't keep your non-reversed upvotes from increasing your rep in the end.

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Q: Serial upvoting reversed: I lost 0 reputation

Some goofball has been serial upvoting me for the past two days, and while I've sent out hunting parties to find the miscreant and taze him bro until he quits, I did notice an extreme oddity: When the serial upvoting was reversed, instead of losing the 90-100 rep I was expecting to lose, I lost ...

cl-netbox

@DavidFoerster @Rinzwind Does this count for daily rep cap too -> askubuntu.com/questions/818660/… ? I'm asking because this would be the first time to have reached this "after ages" ! :)

Rinzwind

2:11 PM

nope. only normal upvotes

accepted and bounties do not

Eliah Kagan

And the +2 for approved edits, right?

Rinzwind

yeah and downvotes too

there have a badge >:)

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind so no chance to get past 200 again ... :(

@Rinzwind Me ? a badge for what ?

Rinzwind

when you get a 500 bounty you should just stop :D get some sleep.

@cl-netbox nice answer?

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind hahaha ... I made the answer not today ... :D

Rinzwind

2:14 PM

but you got to 10 today = nice answer

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind aha ... checking ... :)

@Rinzwind Thank you very much Rinzy ! :)

Rinzwind

it is worth it

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind :)

Videonauth

This is what happens when you reply to spam email | James Veitch

►

hahahaha

Rinzwind

oldy :D

Videonauth

2:22 PM

but goldy :)

Eliah Kagan

I feel like this question on U&L, though it is reasonably answered now, might also be possible to answer with (historical?) information about why some *nix OSes have system-provided root-owned executables owner-writable and others don't -- or, if not why, at least when the decisions were made and where, if anywhere, the choices have been documented. (I don't know enough about it to write such an answer, myself.)

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Q: Why are executables in e.g. /usr/sbin writable by root?

Could you please explain why a binary compiled file (in, for example, /usr/sbin) has write permission for root user? For me, this is compiled. Meaning that direct write has no use and may expose file to some security issue somehow. A script (e.g. a bash file) may be writeable because it is a te...

linux files permissions root

Rinzwind

@EliahKagan why not?

Eliah Kagan

Why don't I know enough? I don't know the answer and don't know how to research it properly. I might be able to figure it out. (I've been poking around a bit to see.) I don't mean I could never post such an answer, only that I am unable to write it right now.

Rinzwind

it does not matter either way as long as "group" and "other" are not :P

Eliah Kagan

I agree. The currently posted answer is certainly correct. It doesn't fully answer the aspect of the question that's asking why they are u+w, though. (This is not really a deficiency in that answer, but I think it would be reasonable for an answer to cover that.)

Oh, you meant why not have permissions set that way. I agree -- it's fine. :)

terdon

2:28 PM

@EliahKagan I doubt there was any decision. The decision was to make /usr/sbin writable by root, for obvious reasons. They just didn't think to explicitly go on and make binary files in there non-writable.

Rinzwind

I assume since "s" always is for root nobody bothered with permissions.

(the s in sbin)

Eliah Kagan

But in some operating systems, the binary files are non-writeable (as the answer mentions). That's what's interesting about it -- it's different in different systems.

Rinzwind

well maybe soon we will :D sbin is bound to disappear when we (ever...) get a read only base

@EliahKagan don'tttttt go there D:

ever tried to look a the command "which" on debian, fedora, bsd and any Unix system?

terdon

@EliahKagan True. OK, so they decided to do that (no idea why). That's the decision I find interesting. I see the Linux approach (just give them the permissions of their parent dir) as a default "non-decision" .

I mentioned this to Kusalandra (who posted the answer) and he said he'd look into it and edit if he finds anything.

Eliah Kagan

@Rinzwind Yeah, which is quite different depending on which which you use. :)

Rinzwind

2:35 PM

idea

could it be because the kernel sees them as links?

ehm

no

terdon

@Rinzwind It already has on some distros. Arch, for one, and Fedora too I think:

$ ls -l / | grep -E 'bin|lib'
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root       7 Dec  6 01:43 bin -> usr/bin
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root       7 Dec  6 01:43 lib -> usr/lib
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root       7 Dec  6 01:43 lib64 -> usr/lib
lrwxrwxrwx   1 root   root       7 Dec  6 01:43 sbin -> usr/bin

Rinzwind

yeah debian is late to that party :P

Eliah Kagan

Whoa, the star board in /dev/chat is way less random than the one here!

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Rinzwind

@Videonauth this one is good too youtube.com/watch?v=Dceyy0cX6J4

Videonauth

ja yes i just had put this one on my playlist :)

Rinzwind

2:42 PM

have a look at Tim Urban's channel ;-)

terdon

@EliahKagan :)

Videonauth

@Rinzwind wil do for sure, i love this kind of stuff :D

Rinzwind

3:23 PM

Google Chrome 56 Released

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cl-netbox

@Rinzwind already installed this morning ... is it possible that you're a bit late ? ;P

@Rinzwind Starred your message nevertheless ... some others here might be even more late ! ;P

cl-netbox

3:44 PM

@CristianaNicolae Good afternoon Christina ! :)

terdon

@cl-netbox pelase remember that many of us have this tab open by default, so if a user appears here, it doesn't mean they want to talk or have a loud ping and/or popup appear on their screen.

cl-netbox

@terdon yes ... I just wanted to be friendly ... :)

terdon

I know! I know!

You just seem to apply the same rules to chat as you would to a real life meeting and that is not always correct. As you know, I and many others, don't like being pinged for such things.

I have no idea how Cristiana feels about it, of course, but I do know I have never found one person who appreciates being pinged just for hello and have found many who dislike it.

Chat != real life. Different rules apply :)

Oli

@terdon .

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terdon

See? You can't make typographical puns in real life!

Or, wait. Were you? Or were you just yanking my chain? One of the two, anyway.

cl-netbox

3:55 PM

@terdon Well, I think that I already made some progress by not pinging those from whom I know that they don't like it ,,, and of course I understand what you mean ... nevertheless a little bit of friendliness is never bad ... or are all members (except me) bots ? I guess (or better : hope) not ... hahaha :)

terdon

@cl-netbox I know you have (and thank you!) and I know you're trying to be nice. Which isn't hard to do for someone as nice as you. I just suggest that what you consider nice might be coming across as annoying to others.

cl-netbox

@terdon Oh, that's a point I have to admit that I did not consider until now : annoying others by being kind to them ... hmmm ... well, the thing is that it's not fake - being friendly to others was part of my education and please don't forget : I'm one of those older farts ... just like @Fabby ! :)

terdon

@cl-netbox I think it's a matter of what "kind" and "friendly" means in different contexts. For example, if I joined a group of people sitting around a table and you didn't say hello, I would consider it rude. However, if you don't say hello when I enter a chat room I don't consider it rude at all. Also, if you do say hello, I might feel uncomfortable because I just came in to see what the room is about and what's going on and didn't want to talk or participate.

And I know you're trying to make people feel welcome! And I also accept that this might well be my hang up and nobody else minds. So just bear in mind that some people (even if it's only the bitter, misanthropes of the world like myself) don't like being pinged in a room. it takes away their right to lurk and observe without saying anything.

I guess I feel that there's an unspoken rule in online chat rooms that if you don't say anything, you're not officially "there". Or something.

Back when I was a kid and active on IRC, for example, nobody would address new people in the room unless they said something first.

Nathan Osman

Nope.

Lenovo doesn't know who or what Red Hat is.

terdon

Oh, also, @cl-netbox this is absolutely not a mod telling you what to do! I am just giving you my opinion and how I would perceive what you're doing. But it's not a rule and I am not saying you're doing anything wrong. So feel free to ignore me on this. It's completely up to you.

cl-netbox

4:08 PM

@terdon I totally understand what you mean, so thank you for explaining everything so comprehensive and carefully to me ... and by the way, thank you very much for understanding my point of view and your overall great support ... also I wanna say that you are doing a very, very good job here (just as I expected it before from what I saw you accomplished on U&L) - you are a very fair moderator, terdon ! :)

terdon

Awww, thanks :)

cl-netbox

You're very welcome ... I absolutely mean it ! :)

Nathan Osman

amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B00M77HMU0

Anyone know if that works on Linux?

terdon

@NathanOsman Shouldn't that be OS agnostic? I thought the hardware does all the work in that sort of adapter.

Nathan Osman

It does... but the operating system still uses drivers to communicate with the device.

cl-netbox

4:15 PM

@NathanOsman ALL OSes use drivers to communicate with devices ... otherwise they wouldn't work ! :)

Eliah Kagan

People commented about having some difficulty with it on macOS, but I didn't see anything about Linux.

terdon

D'oh! Of course, that's ethernet/usb so some translation must be done by the OS presumably. Unless the adapter identifies itself as a new NIC or something.

Nathan Osman

Right.

Basically, what I'm looking for is a Raspberry Pi-like embedded PC that runs Windows.

The Lenovo Ideacentre Stick 300 is the cheapest so far.

It only includes 10 Home though.

So no RDP.

And I was looking at Ethernet adapters since it doesn't include any ports.

I was mildly curious if the adapter would also be useful on Linux.

cl-netbox

4:57 PM

@Rinzwind Have you ever seen that a server installation defaults to IPv6 ? :D

Rinzwind

nope

never

cl-netbox

same with me

Rinzwind

afaik i it was always manual setting

cl-netbox

exactly that ... some users are doing things ... no no no :D

Kaz Wolfe

5:22 PM

@Fabby Well, it's not happening to my phone or other computer, nor any of my family member's computers. Plus, not everyone at work is complaining about this issue, nor is everyone at Starbucks and so on.

terdon

5:44 PM

@Rinzwind can you boot in EFI mode with an MBR disk? Don't you also need GPT?

cl-netbox

@terdon No terdon ... the disk has to have a GPT partition table ! :)

terdon

That's what I thought, thanks.

Rinzwind

NOT TRUE

terdon

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Q: Switch to UEFI and/or update BIOS?

16.04 is working but my BIOS is not latest version and my boot setting is legacy. Should I try and update BIOS and/or change to UEFI boot? Is that advantageous or unnecessary if I'm already able to use all apps and functions? I got a Dell laptop and it looks time-consuming to apply all latest upd...

boot 16.04 uefi bios

@Rinzwind Ah.

Rinzwind

you can use efi with mbr

cl-netbox

5:46 PM

@Rinzwind will bring nothing than trouble ! :)

Rinzwind

true.

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Q: Will UEFI boot with EFI partition + MBR partition table work (instead of GPT)?

Is it a requirement for a drive to use GPT partition table if wanted use UEFI boot? Or is it still possible to use MBR partition table as format for drive's partitions and have bootloader saved in a separated EFI partition? As I understand for now, MBR contains both, information about drive's pa...

14.04 boot uefi gpt mbr

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind ... you can "frickle" around with everything at least ... BUT ...

Kaz Wolfe

You can use EFI with MBR, but it can cause a lot of issues. Just use GPT

cl-netbox

@KazWolfe Exactly what I said ! :)

Rinzwind

but hey... we use Linux. we love trouble

well the sort that is not about virusses

the challenging trouble

Nobody bothered with efi + mbr. going gpt has more advantages anyways.

Kaz Wolfe

5:50 PM

^

gpt is amazing

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind The first passage is the most relevant : It's theoretically possible to use an MBR partition table in an EFI-mode boot; however, almost nobody does this ...

Rinzwind

I agree! but it is possible :)

cl-netbox

@KazWolfe Exactly that ... I agree ! :)

@Rinzwind possible is everything in life ... hahaha

Rinzwind

Jumping from 10k heigh without a parachute and survive the drop is also possible.
Should you do it?

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind I couldn't have said it better ! :D

Seth

6:12 PM

@EliahKagan you're surprised by that? :P

Eliah Kagan

Not so much surprised by it as struck by it... and figured that, if I mentioned it here, my mention of it would itself get a star. Which it did. :)

Seth

;)

Hizqeel

6:32 PM

NA askubuntu.com/a/876494/529390

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel What a "nice" way to say Hello ... ;P Good evening Hizqeel ! :) How are you doing today ?

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox Hi :p :) Good Evening :D Its raining here from last 3 days continuously .. I'm fine What about you?

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel I am fine as well ... we have very cold weather here these days ... also dusty ... today the sun shined through a bit. :)

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox That's good ... :)

Rinzwind

yay another victim found from misinterpreting clam virus reporting

cl-netbox

6:38 PM

@Hizqeel Good ? Better would be the winter disappears and summer takes over at once ! :D

Rinzwind

I hate summer except for Summer Grau

Hizqeel

Aaaa :( I accidentally pressed NO ACTION NEEDED on FP reviews and it was my last warning Scared that I will be banned for a month now.... :O

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind you seem to be specialized on this topic ... on my systems ClamAV never ever found a thing ... :D

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox I don't like summer that much

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind Really or is it a joke ? :)

Rinzwind

6:41 PM

@cl-netbox yeah I posted it a couple of times. I maintain about 30 servers and had to look into antivirus and rootkitdetectors

Hizqeel

@Rinzwind ME to

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel What ? Why this ?

Rinzwind

@cl-netbox nope. Summer Grau is jummy

There google.nl/…

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox because here the temp rises to 40 C and I hate that and I sweat Alot

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel ah ... that is understandable of course ! :)

Hizqeel

6:42 PM

NA askubuntu.com/a/876572/529390

Rinzwind

I get migraines when I am out in the sun

cl-netbox

@Rinzwind Hmmm ... not nice ... now I understand you ! :)

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox I love Winter and Autumn Seasons :)

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel In Germany it is too cold in theses seasons ... that's why I prefer summer ! :)

@Hizqeel Why are you posting these N/A messages ? What has to be done with them ?

Zanna

@KazWolfe oops! Sorry I've not been able to get online today until now

Hizqeel

6:47 PM

@cl-netbox So that Everyone can vote to close them because they are not Answers or trying to answer the question

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel How can we vote to close an answer ? I see no button ....

Hizqeel

Flag them as Not ANSWER

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel ah ... okay ... thanks ! :)

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox U have only 77 helpful flags

@cl-netbox :)

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel yeah ... and you have only 12 answers !!! :D :D :D

Hizqeel

6:51 PM

@cl-netbox hhaha Actually I am not that much expert thats why i only have 12 :P :P :D

Zanna

@KazWolfe haha ulterior bounty motive!?!

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel Did you know that this is a Q&A site and not a VTC hunting news magazine ? :D :D :D

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox VTC ??

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel Vote To Close :D

Zanna

@Zacharee1 @Serg @edwinksl @KazWolfe @IanC @WinEunuuchs2Unix blush awww thanks for all the comments

Zacharee1

6:54 PM

well now you have to run for mod :p

Hizqeel

@cl-netbox I know that its a Q&A Site not a VTC site But When I feel that I can answer the question I DO..!

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel sure ... I was a bit kiddin', because sometimes it seems to me that we are more talking about what to close here and there than about other topics ... :)

@Zanna Hey Zanna ... good evening ! :) Didn't you see MY ones from yesterday ? :)

Thomas Ward

randomly yells for no apparent reason

@Hizqeel already handled, you guys have to stop bringing up things that're already in the flags queue

we roomba the flags queue pretty frequently :P

cl-netbox

@ThomasWard hahaha ... the evil one appeared ... Hi Thomas ! :)

Thomas Ward

greetings

Hizqeel

7:01 PM

@ThomasWard Roger that :)

Thomas Ward

i was just kidding but heh

Zanna

@cl-netbox not yet, I'll read later, just gonna do CV queue and go to bed, looooong day

cl-netbox

@Zanna okay ... sleep well ! :)

edwinksl

@Zanna yeah you have to run for mod now. no takesies backsies

cl-netbox

Goodbye everyone ... see you tomorrow ! :)

Hizqeel

7:04 PM

@cl-netbox Bye See you :)

@ThomasWard :p

cl-netbox

@Hizqeel See you Hizqeel ! :) Goodbye ! :)

Zanna

7:18 PM

@edwinksl :S I think I do a lot of things I wouldn't dare to do with such powers. Things would get broken and jokerdino would side-eye me

edwinksl

7:33 PM

you could sideeye that dino back :)

Stack Exchange

Outage Postmortem - January 24 2017 http://stackstatus.net/post/156407746074/outage-postmortem-january-24-2017

Tweeted by StackStatus on January 26, 2017 at 7:27 PM

Byte Commander

7:49 PM

Anything to add or correct at my answer? askubuntu.com/a/876616/367990

Byte Commander

8:34 PM

Meh... Finally after some weeks of being on idle I want to get back to the review queue and now it only lets me do those tiny 20/day... :-/

Review cap sucks.

Eliah Kagan

Well, even once you've hit the cap, you can still use askubuntu.com/tools to find posts that need attention.

Serg

My cough today got worse. I'm pretty much coughing non-stop

Seth

clientsfromhell.net/post/155720058703/off-color-client hahahaha

Byte Commander

8:49 PM

Why did askubuntu.com/q/138842/367990 get deleted? Old question and closed as dupe, but having 3 answers and a total Q+As score of 25.

@EliahKagan That's what I'm currently doing, but it is more annoying than the queue work...

Eliah Kagan

I had been meaning to mention that, actually. (The first undelete vote is mine.)

The question it was duped to was closed as primarily opinion based. But the closure (at least as a duplicate of that question) was wrong...

Jacob Vlijm

...Now undeleted :)

Byte Commander

@Seth clientsfromhell.net/post/27202611988/… (sorry to the Indians in here)

Seth

@ByteCommander Ouch.

Always proofread before sending lol

Byte Commander

yup

Eliah Kagan

8:59 PM

@JacobVlijm Thanks.

The question it was duped to, askubuntu.com/q/5466, is also garnering delete votes. I admit, that one's way more reasonable to consider primarily opinion based... but the top answers there seem fully in accordance with stackoverflow.blog/2010/09/good-subjective-bad-subjective, are quite obviously valuable, and I wonder if the question could just be reworded to something like "Do I sometimes need to perform a clean install rather than an upgrade?" (if that, even) and reopen it.

Serg

@EliahKagan /dev/chat is also less crowded on regular basis

Thomas Ward

9:34 PM

@Serg It does attract some of us loony people though :P

Serg

@ThomasWard It sure does. I stop by there time to time, more often in recent weeks

Thomas Ward

I go in there to poke people sometimes

like Terdon :p

at least he never pulled a terdon over there.

Byte Commander

That means you could make your own meme over there and pull a Thomas...

Thomas Ward

why should I stress my AI network to create a new meme

when my AI network itself is already an undocumented meme here

IanC

9:56 PM

good evening!

Byte Commander

10:33 PM

I am sure there must be a dupe for askubuntu.com/q/876661/367990 (note last comment by OP), but I can't find it...

Zacharee1

10:58 PM

@Seth have you listened to fun.?

And can someone please make an Android app for SE chat?

Thomas Ward

@Zacharee1 They don't care enough to

Zacharee1

Plz

Thomas Ward

@Zacharee1 no. Now here's the mop and bucket, go clean up aisle 847, someone spilled there

IanC

how do you guys organize your ideas for programs?

Thomas Ward

@IanC painfully

anything more specific?

IanC

11:09 PM

@ThomasWard not really specific, just a bit frustrated of being stuck in mind maps, documents and paper drafts and not writing a lot of code lately haha

but I guess it's better to spend a week planning the code than having to deal with a mess source later

Thomas Ward

@IanC normally I prototype the structure of the code by hand

without writing functional code

IanC

@ThomasWard that has been helping me a lot, on the computer I find mind maps helpful too because they are like paper drafts, quick to make and give a general view

Thomas Ward

@IanC yeah I know that feeling

i just don't do the mind maps and such

stab it and change as I go :P

IanC

now I'm at that point where I have sort of a general flow defined, but I'm having to deal with the specific issues of implementing them. There are always those small details to worry about haha

Thomas Ward

@IanC want to see the latest piece of crap I started designing?

IanC

11:15 PM

@ThomasWard Sure! What is it?

Thomas Ward

gist: DummyNetworkInterfaceCrap, 2017-01-26 23:15:20Z

a mechanism for autocreating 'dummy' local network interfaces, with scriptpower and its own module/class

I came up with the actual DummyInterface class as i went forward

deciding what i'd have to worry about for setting up such a thing

plus properties, getters, setters, init, how to return string data, different returnable formats, etc.

IanC

@ThomasWard I don't know python really well, but the code seems very organized :)

I never played with creating network interfaces, what did you use it for? Is it for when you needed some specific behavior from a connection?

Thomas Ward

@IanC No, this is for an on-boot creation of a local 'dummy' network interface for local networking only on a system

i'm creating a new 'local' network dedicated for my laptop for some of my services.

like my local DNS resolver.

IanC

@ThomasWard oooh, I see! I was wondering why would be better to create a dummy interface instead of using the loopback interface for that, but I ran into this page that discussed exactly that (tldp.org/LDP/nag/node72.html)

Kaz Wolfe

bloody hell, state of california. stop making everything overly complicated.

Thomas Ward

11:28 PM

yup

@KazWolfe politics are evil, take it to Discord

Journeyman Geek

@KazWolfe Don't you know? Simplicity has been found to cauce cancer in the state of california....

Kaz Wolfe

@JourneymanGeek There's no warning label on the sun.

Journeyman Geek

Only cause the labels keep catching fire

Thomas Ward

throws metallic sticks at @KazWolfe

Kaz Wolfe

pls no

Journeyman Geek

11:42 PM

throws inanimate carbon rods @KazWolfe

Thomas Ward

drops a tungsten-carbide rod from orbit in @JourneymanGeek's general direction

Journeyman Geek

tunsten?

Thomas Ward

@KazWolfe it's hollow aluminum pipes. Small ones.

@JourneymanGeek silence

Journeyman Geek

pistowhips @ThomasWard with a triggerfish

Thomas Ward

explodes violently, taking out everything within 20 meters

@IanC Debug example data:

% python ./create-dummy-interface.py
ARGUMENTS: Namespace(cidr=None, devalias=None, devname=None, ipaddress=None, macaddr=None, netmask=None)
INTERFACE (as dict): {'Interface Name': 'dummy0', 'IP Address': '192.168.125.1', 'CIDR': 24, 'Alias Label': 'None', 'MAC Address': '00:00:00:01:f1:ea'}
WOULD EXECUTE:
sudo ip link set name dummy0 dev dummy0
sudo ifconfig dummy0 hw ether 00:00:00:01:f1:ea
sudo ip addr add 192.168.125.1/24 dev dummy0

those last 3 commands would be called automatically

in this case I have it in debugger mode to just give data about what would be done :P

most of the data is random generated

IP address and MAC address for example (though fixed to 00:00:00 in the three first segments)

IanC

11:48 PM

@ThomasWard nice! I usually include a debugger header in my C programs, which I can toggle by using a compiler define. Took the idea out of Zed's C book, actually, the header looks very similar to his except for some changes I found useful

Thomas Ward

@IanC I usually have a flag variable True/False for debug mode

but i haven't written the execution code for those last three commands so... :P

IanC

so how do you "listen" on the dummy interface? I understood you can reach it with the 192.168.125.1 IP, but how can you listen to the packets written to it?

Thomas Ward

@IanC same thing as any service that binds to an IP/Port combo

the system just has to have it as a recognizable thing. It shows as a local network interface just like an Ethernet adapter

so :p

IanC

you use Sockets bind() with the 192.168.125.1 IP?

Thomas Ward

I can, yes.

in this case, bind9

IanC

11:53 PM

that sounds very useful for network testing

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