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12:00 AM
and I'm sure that they don't card you at the military.
 
cat
Luckily/disappointingly I don't have to care what the local drinking age is anywhere in the world
 
You're a cat.
 
cat
Exactly. I can't drink anyway.
 
cat
That's not me.
 
12:03 AM
@JourneymanGeek LOL. Wikipedia entry for drinking in Singapore says "Parents can try a sip of alcohol at any age"
 
cat
That doesn't even look like a real cat. He's clearly been set up.
So if you're old enough to get pregnant you're old enough to drink?
Nice
 
or if your about to have kids, then your about to start drinking :-)
 
lol "Home and private drinking of alcohol is allowed, although the safest age could be 6"
Someone needs to edit that page.
 
cat
Singlish ftw!
 
@cat If you're old enough to get drunk you will probably end up pregnant might be more accurate.
 
cat
12:16 AM
> We are contacting you to inform you that changes have occurred in your flight. We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause.

Here are the details:


Seat Change
We have changed the type of aircraft for this flight and, as the seat distribution is different, we have booked you another seat with similar characteristics.
LMAO. Remember that short bus/plane yesterday? They've shrunk it even further
That plane already had a few too few seats ... now it's this
 
For you dear sir/maam/gentleperson, only the shortest bus.
 
cat
!!s/person/cat/
 
@cat For you dear sir/maam/gentlecat, only the shortest bus. (source)
 
point. Cats arn't people.
 
@cat just be happy they didnt make you co-pilot, as the cheap-seats
 
cat
12:19 AM
@Psycogeek Honestly I wouldn't mind being co-pilot
 
hm. or just duct tape them to the nose.
 
but when the airline is so cheap as to do that, the pilots also do not get parachutes
 
cat
Theoretically, they could shrink the plane bus by yet another row. I mean the front row has 2 seats and there's only 2 people booked >_>
 
@cat Shuttle aircraft?
 
cat
I'm honestly beginning to wonder if this actually is a bus now, even their smallest plane has like 9 rows in the front cabin
 
12:24 AM
3 hours ago, by bwDraco
Question: Is it unusual for businesses to build PCs in-house in their IT department for internal use?
Anyone?
 
cat
I'd already be convinced it was a bus if it wasn't for the fact it's a flight over 1000 miles of water
Maybe it's a boat?
Speedboat? Sounds plausible.
 
@bwDraco must be more rare, because even in silicon valley people are issued corporate computers from corporations. You would also have to figure that some jobs it is laptops.
 
cat
> This is an Airbus A320 aircraft that is operated by Iberia Express on short and medium haul routes, a subsidiary of Iberia. The Business and Economy class sections can be adjusted according to demand.
 
Is this really a cargo craft?
 
cat
> In Business Class, prepared meals and wine is available for a fee.
Really They're that stingy now?
 
12:29 AM
@bwDraco its unusual
Pets vs Cattle
 
cat
I am so switching to StarAlliance next year :-/
 
Other than a few places (SE comes to mind), most places will order PCs in bulk periodically and assign them
if they fail, they're interchangable (and often under warranty)
 
@bwDraco now if you were referring to the IT peoples own computers, while everyone is stuck with a stock computer, stock image and restrictions, you dont really believe that IT itself puts those same restrictions on themselves ? I always thought they had real computers back there, just from the way they talk. I though that IT also didnt have the same Image, from the way they never understand the rest of the users in the place :-)
 
I'm talking about IT departments building workstations for in-house use.
 
So practically, its uncommon
especially with a lot of companies going laptop only
 
12:33 AM
The advantage is that IT is self-sufficient and not reliant on a system vendor like Dell or HP.
 
Assuming your entire staff has 1. Spares on hand 2. Know how to work with hardware.
as opposed to handing the user a spare PC (which they need to do anyway) and giving dell/hp a call.
Which is 'essentially' free if its under warranty
And you'd want to standardise systems to an extent anyway for ease of maintainance.
and DIY boxen do not scale at all for that
 
Why "boxen"? I just don't get the geek world...
 
ox oxen, box boxen.
 
(I didn't grow up working with enterprise machines, Unix servers, or stuff like that. I grew up with consumer PCs from the Windows 9x era.)
If anything, my first contact with Linux was in high school.
I'd actually love to work in an enterprise environment, if anything.
 
cat
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Yeah when it only has six bloody seats! I scared what kind of friggin abomination of a plane you're putting me on.
 
12:48 AM
I bet it is a truly overcrowded Sesna. :)
 
@cat no to worry they always put cats and dogs in the cargo plane, with the (explosive) lithium batteries.
 
Right. sleep
 
cat
@Hennes Ooh, I could actually fly one of those
My great grandfather was a pilot
 
1:28 AM
What? Kaby Lake already? anandtech.com/show/10492/…
 
1:40 AM
ohh yes
They have MS reps monitoring these boards, but their purpose is to...

Tell people to make their own thread so they can not receive any sort of real assistance, personally.
Post copy/paste "how to perform a clean boot" instructions.
Disregard the questions asked then provide nonsensical answers to unasked questions.
Tell people that they are posting in "old threads" that have yet to be answered, instead of providing the answer.

to mark other ignorant, unhelpful, dismissive "support engineers" non-answers, as answers.
 
@bwDraco looks like they are not going to do a Kaby Lake "H" series NUC, but they'll keep shipping the Skylake 6770HQ and revise or replace the mainboard to support thunderbolt and USB 3.1?
 
I honestly would prefer not to build an NUC.
 
and the Kaby-U processor will probably be slower than Skylake-H because it's very hard to equal previous-generation's H performance in a new generation's U
 
Too expensive. Extremely compact form factor is not a requirement.
 
Kaby-U might match... Ivy Bridge-H? maybe Haswell? but definitely not Skylake
 
1:42 AM
I'd say IVB-H, or even just SNB-H.
KBL-U is not enough performance.
 
no real point in me trying to build a NUC either, but it does provide more insight into the upcoming processors
I mean I can lift my entire desktop and carry it around with little effort; it's about half as heavy as an ATX mid-tower
lifting my old ATX mid-tower fully loaded physically hurt (hard to keep a firm grip on it with my hands)
 
^^^^^ This is why I'm going to build mATX for Father.
 
I love my MicroATX :D
 
I actually plan to build full towers for myself, but I'd wind up with 50+ lb behemoths I can't easily carry.
 
one day I can reduce the weight by another pound or two by swapping out large and heavy 3.5" HDDs with small and light 2.5" SSDs, but that day is a ways off
 
1:44 AM
Scalability or compactness? Hard choice to make...
 
top tier capacity SSDs are still too expensive
@bwDraco for a gaming/development desktop, I don't really see any advantage to using a mid-tower unless you absolutely always use an optical drive and can't stomach the idea of having to plug in a USB one... or if you need two graphics cards plus a sound card or RAID card
 
We just discarded a very old mid-tower. It weighed upwards of 20 lb, close to 30 lb.
 
if you can build a gaming/dev desktop that only needs one full-width GPU and possibly one other PCIe expansion card, with 4 sticks of RAM, one CPU and up to 6 3.5" storage devices (fewer if you buy a case with optical drive support) mATX is perfect
 
Full-tower systems routinely exceed 50 lb and this will likely be an issue.
 
if you need more GPUs or more HDDs or multiple optical drives or something like that, you may need full ATX
 
1:48 AM
Two disk drives (SSD+HDD), one optical drive, a media reader, and one large graphics card with room to scale to two.
 
Rats; I could have spent a little more money and picked up one of these and went with Broadwell-E instead of mainstream Skylake :P
oh well, next build I'll look at micro ATX enthusiast platform... the extra PCIe lanes sure looks appealing
 
The baseline weight for a full tower case is 30-40lb, not including any other parts.
THOR v2 is 30 lb.
Again, that's just the case.
Perhaps there's no reason to build a full tower...
 
@bwDraco my full build weighs 26 pounds
I put it on a scale when I was done with it lol
 
Also, a full tower generally will not fit in space-constrained environments. I've seen a few full towers myself (they are not common at all these days, most consumer desktops are mATX or mid-tower these days) and they're freakin' huge.
Most older desktops are mid-tower.
(Father's old Dell is a mid-tower with mATX board.)
Heck, a full tower likely cannot fit under my desk.
So... I guess I will reconsider. Full tower generally does not make sense for most builds, as the result is far too large and heavy.
 
1:55 AM
what are intel EQ series processors?
 
...and that's my build ;p 26 lbs all assembled, with a compact heatsink/cooling fan
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere give an example?
 
I guess they are more SoC cpus
laptop cpus
are they the H series you guys mentioned or by H series do you mean HQ
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere BGA package. Soldered chips.
 
> Sockets Supported, FCBGA1364
 
1:59 AM
never seen the EQ before though
 
hmm. HQ chips are BGA, too.
 
@bwDraco yeah, the "E" parts are branded as "for Intelligent Systems", and I was quickly learning that it was related to embedded, so I guess that means BGA and basically nothing else
 
what does HQ stand for :D
 
Type H is high-performance mobile.
 
2:00 AM
wait, is E low power?
 
...the difference is vPro and TXT support. It's a business-oriented chip.
 
I wish the U was available for LGA
I would've bought a U instead of a K
 
ah, nope -- the 4700MQ and the 4700EQ are both 47W
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere What's the point of a very low-power chip for a full-size desktop platform?
 
@bwDraco good eye, that appears to be it... just vPRO
 
2:01 AM
saving the world from climate change
2
having a silent PC
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere shut down your computer when you aren't using it ;p
 
oh I always use it even while I am sleeping
I am dreaming that im using it
 
but seriously, if you own a car, buying a more fuel efficient car will save many hundreds of times more carbon emissions than using a slightly lower wattage CPU
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere How about just using XTU to underclock the processor?
 
I dont own a car Im waiting for beautiful electric motorcycles to become available for 10 grand
oh under clock it and it uses less watts?
:P
 
2:03 AM
if you are really concerned about low power computing, and you don't care about performance as much, buy a smallish laptop
and don't use a dGPU
 
haaaaaaaaaaaaa
 
the difference between a 6700K and a Skylake-U CPU is much less than the difference between a system using a dedicated GPU and a system not using one
 
intel HD graphics are unreliable both chips I owned failed
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere you must be doing it wrong; I've never had an Intel processor nor its graphics chip fail
 
had an intel atom with HD graphics and it died after playing maplestory for 3 months
 
2:05 AM
bad thermal solution, water damage, board flex...
blown cap...
 
...or even ThrottleStop to underclock the chip?
 
could be anything; unless you dug into it to see at a component level what was broken
 
...or even Windows power management?
 
and my HD graphics 530 failed from running 1 VM, 2 old version maplestory clients, and a web browser daily for 3 months sorry I think I confused the two, this one was like 2-3 months after I bought the skylake and the atom one must've been around a year
 
40
Q: What Is Minimum And Maximum Processor State In Windows 7 Power Management?

Boris_yoI am talking about this: What should I set in minimum and maximum? I want good CPU performance but not overheated CPU and fan working like crazy.

 
2:06 AM
I bought my cpu from newegg in some kind of deal so it wasnt elligible for warranty :/
 
If power consumption is a serious issue, why on Earth are you building a desktop on a socketed platform?
 
I'll lower my bus speed to 10MHZ so my max frequency is 420MHZ
so that it doesnt take me half an hour to compile a program in flash professional like it did with my e1400
 
I believe this skylake processor might be more efficient than my e1400. probably uses less watts on average xD my e1400 was always getting maxed out I can see it using at least 40watts on average
 
35W desktop CPU.
I cannot find a socketed Intel CPU that has lower TDP than this.
 
2:13 AM
great gaspy! I could've saved 400 bucks if I knew this cpu existed!

http://www.ncix.com/detail/intel-core-i3-i3-6100t-dual-core-f6-131123.htm
maybe I'll get my friend to buy it when we build his computer haha
dang
this is a real good budget cpu
I mean it's not perfect but pretty good
I think I probably wished I could get it but didnt see it on sale in my favourite stores
is 40C hot for my poor SSD?
 
warm for a drive, but still well within spec
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere Normal if your SSD is under a moderate degree of load with limited airflow. This is not a problem.
SSDs are specced for a maximum operating temperature of 70 °C and will throttle if this limit is exceeded so overheating is never really an issue for a SATA SSD.
PCIe SSDs (especially the M.2 variety) are much more likely to experience overheating issues, though.
 
2:28 AM
oh my ssd is idle it's just sitting inside my case with only 1 case fan running
my nice large desktop
it's a lift off the top cover and you can get at everything
my motherboard has pretty lights on and my back is lit up blue :D
it has a over clock button but I dont think it works
 
M.2 PCIe SSDs generally require direct airflow (and possibly heatsinking or a thermal pad) to maintain sane temperatures under continuous load.
 
oh
pci express ones?
oh right
it uses pice
 
holy cow, once you're in pythonland, you can't go back
I've been coding python for a couple of hours now... I look at C code, and I'm like, "wtf is this"
 
@oldmud0 Python is one of the easiest languages to learn and use in practice, I tell you.
 
2:36 AM
no seriously, it's not just the ease, it's how clean the language is
no excessive parentheses, no braces everywhere..
 
sorry I only know snake
 
is it off topic to talk about programming? xD
http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/325009/short-circuit-evaluation-is-c

so to program efficiently I should always put the thing that I think will be false most often first? :D
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere no but it's offtopic to talk about whether or not talking about what is or isn't offtopic is offtopic
 
well you know what?
I'm an offtopic then I should be removed from the chat
 
2:40 AM
no, then this chat will have an underflow of users
everything I did today for my game: github.com/oldmud0/zero-grav-soccer/compare/…
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/…
 
well another day's job well done
causing underflows everywhere
oh thanks @bwDraco , that article talks about case fans, that reminds me I should replace my case fan with a coolermaster one that is much more silent than the one I have right now!
interesting I wonder if the SSD's in the workstations at work ever throttle
 
why would they throttle? SSDs believe in net neutrality
 
Feb 8 at 17:23, by allquixotic
@qasdfdsaq Yeah. I think Star Citizen is going to require minimum HD7970 to run playably at 1080p on low detail. For awesomeness you'll want Nvidia Pascal's top-end part. For VR or 2K/4K or multi-monitor you'll want four Pascal top-end parts.
...this is the motivation for an ultra-high-end build, some point in the future.
 
@bwDraco slight revision to my prior statement: I think it'll run fine at 1080p or 2K on highest detail with a single GTX 1080 (based on my own testing and the presumption that driver and game engine optimizations in the future will further improve perf)
 
2:53 AM
I don't plan to play Star Citizen, but I do have ambitious plans.
 
this song makes me feel anxious
 
Feb 7 at 3:40, by bwDraco
http://www.pcgamer.com/worlds-best-xcom-player-how-zemalf-beat-enemy-within-on-i‌​mpossible-ironman-with-zero-deaths/
Feb 7 at 4:28, by bwDraco
> And when luck fails him, Zemalf falls back on his slow and thoughtful playing style, methodically considering every option before making a move. He narrates his Let's Plays the same way, speaking in a deep, calm voice.
 
PhantomForest.mp3
 
...so should I get XCOM as a skills-building tool, more than just a game?
 
So, after 30 years or so, people are starting to use Pascal again?
 
2:54 AM
Feb 7 at 4:48, by bwDraco
I've said this countless times and I'm going to say it again: I am committed to making myself a calmer person able to make sound decisions even under extreme stress. I firmly believe this to be my ultimate life goal as all my research and experience agree that this one skill is the key to success in every aspect of life.
 
yes my friend writes her server emulators in pascal
TMapData = class(TAbstractInterface, IVarStorage)
Name: AnsiString;
ID: Integer;
RID: array[0..3] of Byte;

Data: AnsiString;
Path: AnsiString;

Loaded: Boolean;
 
I don't know if Star Citizen runs in Pascal. It definitely won't run on my 433 MHz Pentium 386.
 
inside pascal? it's compiled to win32
 
We're talking about the Pascal Architecture, not the programming language.
 
2:57 AM
...wait. I knew full well this was a joke and I tried to ruin it.
Sorry, stepping out briefly.
 
Same thing right??
 
If you're curious, this is usually an indication that I may be losing control of myself.
 
"You are becoming hysterical."
Except every time I think of "pascal" I think of "pescado" which means "fish" so I have an image of fish every time I see the word.
 
it's okay bwDraco I enjoy trolling on a regular basis as well
 
3:03 AM
I dont understand that video. are the you troll sending the video to everyone as a comeback?
 
My history of not having a sense of humor has nearly gotten me in trouble at one point:
Feb 18 at 23:48, by bwDraco
@qasdfdsaq Please don't spread bad advice. I was very tempted to raise a mod flag on that.
Feb 18 at 23:48, by Bob
@bwDraco That was very clearly a joke.
 
Well, I don't always find @oldmud0's jokes very funny
 
Bob
@cat lol. at most here they're only allowed to offer an increase, and even then only if you explicitly opt-in to the offers
 
Nobody finds my jokes very funny, except me
 
Bob
3:05 AM
the Microsoft-method ("we're doing it in X days unless you say not to") would get slapped down in a heartbeat
 
I laugh and laugh at my own jokes
 
Lil Wayne likes to use bad words in his rap
 
hmm
youtube.com/watch?v=mHWieHoOQQM 4k video test. Apparently the OP3's autofocus is slooooow
but when I'm in focus, its pretty good.
 
@JourneymanGeek I look up to you, so you better always be nice
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere if I need to be not nice, a line's been crossed that shouldn't be ;p
 
3:16 AM
@JourneymanGeek: Your thoughts on this?
22 mins ago, by bwDraco
...so should I get XCOM as a skills-building tool, more than just a game?
(Click through for context.)
Force myself to slow down before making decisions.
Your recommendation? Will this help me on Stack Exchange and IRL?
What are my options?
Will be AFK briefly, feel free to ping anyway.
 
cat
!! Caat
 
Apparently there is from __future__ import braces built into python
try it yourself ;)
 
wow hehe is Ben really good at coming up with questions and answering them himself?

http://superuser.com/questions/1074587/under-what-circumstances-can-i-use-rundll32-to-invoke-a-function-in-a-dll
 
If I could win at XCOM at Ironman Impossible, I wouldn't be talking about self-control problems, because even the slightest hint of self-control issues would probably result in defeat.
 
3:23 AM
> certainly hope there won't be any problems with that. What functions can I use rundll32 on?

> There are almost certainly going to be problems.
 
Is it a sane idea try to play XCOM at Ironman Impossible just to improve my self-control?
 
@bwDraco No. You are becoming hysterical.
 
Feb 7 at 4:28, by bwDraco
> And when luck fails him, Zemalf falls back on his slow and thoughtful playing style, methodically considering every option before making a move. He narrates his Let's Plays the same way, speaking in a deep, calm voice.
My commitment to behave better is not changing.
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere who wrote that? There are a few entry points that rundll32 checks for.
 
@bwDraco If you need others to tell you have to get self control, its not self control.
 
3:26 AM
it's in the link I posted @oldmud0
The compiler yells at you when you mismatch a calling convention, but lazy programmers will just stick a cast in there to get the compiler to "shut up already".
 
@JourneymanGeek is that like "if you tell people your crasy, you are probably not insane" ?
 
> "deprecated" since vista
> windows photo viewer
seriously, the only way to use windows photo viewer is by calling rundll32. way to shoot yourself in the foot, microsoft
 
I'm likely targeting Classic (not Ironman) for my first playthrough, and I am not great at games of this sort.
But if I was able to check every single move and play very carefully, I'd probably succeed.
This is what demands self-control.
Enough self-control, in fact, that I may not be able to play for more than 15 minutes at a time before I run out of patience such that forcibly continuing risks playing incorrectly or even losing control of myself.
 
@bwDraco that dude didnt play ironman the first time, he undoubtedly played it as a challenge after at least (probably 3) 1 other play through. is that patience , or booring? Indeed with the xcom strategy game if you meticulously and painfully and slowly do things, your people stay alive a lot longer. it becomes booring, and there are no "surprises" after that, so no game adrenilin.
 
3:33 AM
!!/wiki Stanford marshmallow experiment
 
@bwDraco The Gods of Wikipedia did not bless us
The Stanford marshmallow experiment was a series of studies on delayed gratification in the late 1960s and early 1970s led by psychologist Walter Mischel, then a professor at Stanford University. In these studies, a child was offered a choice between one small reward provided immediately or two small rewards (i.e., a larger later reward) if they waited for a short period, approximately 15 minutes, during which the tester left the room and then returned. (The reward was sometimes a marshmallow, but often a cookie or a pretzel.) In follow-up studies, the researchers found that children who were able...
 
^ This is why I take self-control so seriously.
 
Some of the other strategy games, you are forcably pushed into bad situations, so being really carefull and meticulous, you wont "win" the higher/harder playthroughs, because there is a time or AC points kind of restriction, that pushes you face first into the enemy
Like every game out there so far, Xcom can be beaten Easily after having already (booooring) played through it once.
 
Any tool I can find that will help me train self-control is potentially a life-changer.
 
When you see heros of a game, or youtube "experts" of a game, they have often already played through once, even if they claim not to. because who wants to look like an idiot.
 
3:38 AM
@bwDraco Its a game. The imporatant thing is not winning or losing
its having fun
Self control needs to be water not iron.
 
> LALALA IM A STUPID SU USER Lets click downvote for no legitimate reason!
rotfl
!!/caaaat
 
@bwDraco mostly taken care of by the community
 
but down vote costs rep does it not :P
what a waste
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere unless the answers are deleted
 
3:52 AM
You also need 125 rep to downvote.
 
then its refunded
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: caat, caaaat, caaaaat, cat
 
and that's happened
 
failed to parse !!/caaaat , a critical buffer allocation underflow has occured.
 
3:53 AM
nope
 
okay goodbye
neat I'm on the star wall
 
ugh...
slept...
for 6 hours..
feel...drowsy...
 
Edity I remember you! how do you do
 
you need to sleep more then
 
@CausingUnderflowsEverywhere ?
@JourneymanGeek 6 hours is enough.
 
3:54 AM
okay Journeyman Geek is right, you do need more sleep.
 
Edity is not feeling well at the moment, disruptions will occur.
 
clock speed 800.19MHz
 
O_o
 
must be that .19MHz abnormality
 
did you overclock ?
 
3:55 AM
@Edity you totally need more sleep.
7 hours is the military minimum.
 
799.81MHz nope I did not
 
i'm not in the pencil millitary tho
 
saving the world from climate change by purchasing a 95 watt skylake over a 130 watt devil's canyon hur hur hur
 
ok imma get some sleep
bai
 
Wow so I checked ManicTime and it looks like I had spent 8 hours coding today
 
Bob
4:47 AM
ok
gear vr is... interesting
also TIL I don't actually get motion sickness anymore
yay
 
4:59 AM
 
5:12 AM
._.
I just cut open the bottom of my cheap/temporary phone case. And it fits perfectlyish now ;p
 
5:48 AM
why is it, folding bikes look like they got in a trainwreck when folded :-)
Fold that up and lock it to a bike rack, it would probably be the last one stolen, even if the design of it is such that it is easiest to carry away.
 
6:32 AM
Good morning!
Actually, it's afternoon...
@JourneymanGeek I just slept for like 10
 
@Rahul2001 the joke being no one ever really got 7 hours of sleep....
 
Although that is pretty unusual for me...
I usually get like 6
I usually get like 6
 
6:48 AM
Chat is so messed up on mobile...
 
heh
Its better than it used to be
There was an old app that was a simple reskin of the old chat UI that was nice
 
Does it still work?
I remember seeing a meta post saying it was removed from the play store...
 
7:19 AM
nope
and its broken with the new chat UI
 
 
2 hours later…
8:55 AM
Finally! Fast WiFi! :D
 
9:06 AM
Anybody here know partitioning
Corss platfrom supported partitioning
0
Q: Formatting a 3TB hard drive for media

user3620828I recently bought a 3TB hard drive. I don't want to format it in NTFS because of compatability issues with Linux. EXT4/EXT3 doesn't seem to have Windows support. Fat32 seems to have only max 32 GB support. I'm not sure though. I want a cross-platform format which will work without creating tr...

 
all the FS support for windows (and probably any OS) is driver based, so there are EXT drivers for windows. now you trying to boot to an ext? or is this strictly a data drive not system drive? which windows OS? you should tag your Q with the exact OS, not the generic windows, and identify the USE and the paritioning that you desire on the drive , in the question. for a complete question.
will there be multiple windows systems that it is going to be hopped from and to (with some Idiot without the driver hitting the format button when windows does not recognise the file system) ? Is this an external drive or an Internal drive? and how is it connected?
 
@Wally linux has had decent NTFS support for ages
 
@JourneymanGeek I had to use Windows to repair NTFS partitions cos Linux can't repair them. I have power failures
 
 
1 hour later…
10:26 AM
I haven't felt so unwell in a very long time...
This cannot be good...
 
yawn
if you have power failures, you need to fix those :/
no matter how good the repair tools are on linux/windows, they won't work forever.
@Rahul2001 maybe you're pregnant :D
 
@djsmiley2k :| Not funny.
 
10:43 AM
D:
what's up?
 
speaking of pregnant ?
did your little duckling hatch?
 
11:33 AM
@Bob I now have steam on my phone ;p
 
Wow, I can actually be positive about win 10
Setting the path (always trivial) is not dumb-user proofed.
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is now or is not?
 

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