Ask Ubuntu General Room

12:03 AM

I wonder if we could/should just remove our policy on closing development release questions entirely. If they're asking about something no one knows yet it's primarily opinion based, and if something isn't working in a beta release it's a bug so those are both covered by other reasons...

Serg

@Seth well those users will revolt yelling "But this is not opinion based ! I have specific issue "

Seth

@Serg they already do that ;)

Serg

@Seth well at least "unsuported release" makes sense as a closing reason. "This is still in beta and not officially supported, most people won't know what you're talking about"

hbdgaf

12:48 AM

@ParanoidPanda - I'm snickering that you one-upped @kos 's answer that meta was complaining about.

Zacharee1

Moving a 750GB partition. Says 2.5hrs left

@Serg and also that it's probably a bug, and that bugs need to be reported to go away

hbdgaf

@Seth to add a little to the thought process there, we could get harder on "beta release" questions instead of saying "they're sort of okay some of the time" - which is the standing policy.

Serg

Agreed

hbdgaf

That would make it a more valid close reason - since point in time covers "not usefully answerable" and "bug" covers actual bugs. So, keeping it around leaves the getting harder on them option available without re-adding a close reason.

Alternately, we could have a beta flag reason that auto-tags it "beta" if the flag is accepted. Then after release - purge the beta tag by deleting or answering.

@Serg ^^ thoughts on the second one?

Mateo

1:07 AM

progress on spirit scope update:

hbdgaf

Better on the colors

Mateo

I think I just need to find a nicer color on table wine

Serg

@hbdgaf well, who is going to be deleting the beta tags ?

Mateo

although not bad:

hbdgaf

@Serg It gives you a way to sort to find them. Then, if you answer it, you edit it and answer or cast a delete vote/flag for all out deletion.

Mateo

1:09 AM

maybe just mute the color a bit

hbdgaf

If you're not stuck on colors, I think a woodgrain tile would look nice.

Mateo

that would be cool, I was thinking bubbles on sparkling ;)

hbdgaf

Since it probably includes some things not bubbling or sparking, I would think no on that. Whatever you think though.

Mateo

hm, muting it a bit wokred

did I show you the logo the other day?

hbdgaf

nope

Mateo

1:18 AM

hbdgaf

Oh, yes you did, but you have revised it since.

Mateo

yeah, adding the wine in the glass

I might clean up the lines a bit, otherwise I think I like it

hbdgaf

Just a recommendation. If you're going to have sharp edges, use them everywhere. If you're going to do blurred edges/irregular edges, use them everywhere except your font. Nobody should ever use comic sans for any reason.

Mateo

yep, will do a pen tool trace of the brush lines

Zacharee1

1/7th done

hbdgaf

1:22 AM

K. The combination of the two is subconsciously jarring and makes me not like it as much as the one without the wine in it - even though I think it's better with the wine in it.

Zacharee1

Agreed ^

Mateo

cool, that and I threw it together with brush/eraser real quick ;)

so, revision 2 will be vector all the way

hbdgaf

You mean like my "test rig" of the card game with big gray buttons instead of drag and drop cards ;)

@Zacharee1 has clearly never downloaded an iso on dialup.

danidee

Good evening/morning everyone

hbdgaf

ugt morning

Zacharee1

1:28 AM

@hbdgaf I downloaded a 6.2GB ISO on a 5mbps connection. I think that's comparable

And I have used dialup

And it's horrible

danidee

drwxrwxr-x 5 odoo odoo 4096 Mar 17 02:15 . please what's the meaning of 5(or any number) with ls -la i've been using that as far as i can remember but i never paid attention to that

hbdgaf

It is, but Not even close. A ring in for call waiting couldn't knock your 5Mb connection offline ;)

danidee

by that i mean ls -la sorry for the that, that

Zacharee1

@hbdgaf but Service Electric and its "very reliable connection" can

hbdgaf

@danidee number of blocks probably. i'ld have to check

nope, number of entries in a given folder

Seth

1:33 AM

@hbdgaf yes but that pushes away questions we can answer, which doesn't do anyone any good except the place those people go after us.

hbdgaf

@Seth Maybe, if you go down from that a little - the second maybe option is probably better.

danidee

okay thanks

Zacharee1

@hbdgaf this is why we just say to not post them

hbdgaf

I personally don't post them unless I have a workaround. I'm looking at possible solutions for the floods of questions I've seen over time at every release date.

Seth

1:56 AM

> But, I think law enforcement has the better argument. This concerns the phone of one of the San Bernardino hackers, and for law enforcement to get a judicial search order, that's consistent with the Fourth Amendment. That's how the bill of rights operates.

San Bernardino hackers?!

lol Cruz

hbdgaf

Nobody claimed any of the candidates were intelligent.

Mateo

ok, now is the point of feature planning, and making a fallback so my features don't spiral out of control and destroy everything ;P

hbdgaf

2 days ago, by hbdgaf

All software development is just honeybadgers juggling chainsaws until they have one too many chainsaws in the air.

Mateo

:)

hbdgaf

If that's the most notable thing I ever say, I'm going to be really disappointed in myself... but it does really fit.

Seth

2:11 AM

@hbdgaf nobody? hehe. :p

hbdgaf

@Seth Nobody's on third.

Who's on third.

No, Who's on first.

What?

I was able to use just one block for forming the client address on the command line scope, I was pleased with that

hbdgaf

2:13 AM

@Seth I don't know the bit by heart, but I acknowledge the joke.

Seth

xD

Mateo

;)

hbdgaf

Nice shout out to the @NathanOsman magic.

Mateo

I try and do that whenever I get something not completely understood, and it does it's magic thing

naive231

3:03 AM

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