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12:23 AM
why would someone deacidify apple juice with CaCO3?
 
 
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4:10 AM
@pH13 Because nom nom nom.
 
 
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9:06 AM
I think it must be "Understanding HER". Oh wait, I guess you are talking about the standard hydrogen electrode, are you? — Martin - マーチン ♦ 14 secs ago
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10:44 AM
@pH13 They've watched too much Breaking Bad?
 
@ⱮᏁℛ then they would use HF
 
@pH13 No, but they'll use too much hair conditioner to become bald, since Walter looks cool.
 
11:00 AM
@CopperKettle not necessarily. CaCO3 can be a really bad construction material, if put outdoors. Concrete, for example, is bound with silicates for much more stable calcium silicates
 
Hullo @Michael! Welcome (back) to the Table!
 
hi, been a while since I've been here
 
So, how's it going?
 
I'm using to being able to freely edit stuff on earthscience.se, and it didn't work here and I figured out I need only 7 more rep to do that
 
@Michael I don't think so.
 
11:05 AM
:D
 
@Michael Thank you!
 
btw that thing you just upvoted, I was planning to do an experiment with some calcium carbonate in it and I was wondering how much I need to pressurise it so it melts and not decomposes
and then I remembered I made a diagram not too long ago so I looked it up :D
@ⱮᏁℛ and now I forgot what was it that I wanted to edit
 
@Michael Heh, what time is it there?
 
oz? 10 pm
 
So you must have had a hard day. :)
 
11:11 AM
revising papers and writing conference abstracts!
 
You made me feel sleepy.
I'm gonna take a nap.
 
11:32 AM
Oh, I just realized how close Phillip is to 10k.
 
11:52 AM
There, edited a bit of geology questions with the "rocks" tag :)
 
12:19 PM
I wonder if HCl will react with Ag2SO4. The SO4 is a "stronger" acid moiety, so HCl shouldn't be able to push it out of the salt.
My texbook says that an acid will react with a salt when that acid is strong enough to push the other acid moiety out of the salt. And of course one of the resulting molecules should be unsoluble in water.
 
12:37 PM
I wonder if HCl will react with Ag2SO3. Here all seems to be okay, but I can't seem to find discussions of this reaction on the internet.
HCl is stronger than H2SO3, and AgCl will be insoluble, so seems to be okay.
 
12:48 PM
@Michael Why? Isn't that redundant to ?
 
1:05 PM
@Martin-マーチン rock-chemistry is a subset of geochemistry, yea. but if you follow that logic, everything is a subset of some other tag
 
I wonder if this reaction is possible (my goal is to create H3PO4 by reacting an acid and a salt) -- Pb3(PO4)2 + H2SO4 = Pb3(SO4)2 + H3PO4
 
@Michael well geochemistry is only used twenty times and introducing a tag that is used just as often and most of the time in conjunction doesn't seem worth it at all
 
when I have some free times I'll look up some more questions and tag them as geochemistry. I remember seeing some that I didn't bother since I didn't have 2k yet
but they're there
 
well, baby steps please, it's really not worth flushing the front page with a lot of questions about geology
I am still not convinced about rocks
and then there is another dead tag
 
@Martin-マーチン it'll be gone in several hours, no worries
 
1:11 PM
@Michael That is not the point!
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Q: Editing gone wild

ronIt seems that editing posts has recently gone out of control. There is certainly a need for editing and it has always been occurring. In the past it seems like one person at a time was responsible for making 10-15 edits everyday. Now, there are several people doing this throughout the day. Af...

we once had a special event to take care of retagging...
and introducing a tag that will be disputed is just meh.
 
So is the point the editing and bumping stuff or the tag itself? Because some of the questions I tagged are perfectly suited for this tag. So it's not going to be a common one, but it is a useful one. Do you rather have inorganic-chemistry on all of those? It's informative and makes searching easier.
 
I don't want to talk about this, it's late and I will go to bed now
 
good night
 
 
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3:52 PM
@manshu I don't think that is true. A well asked question is a well asked question, even (maybe especially) if it is homework. What people and the format of the site don't like are "check my work" questions, because if it is already solved then the comment might just be: "Yes." — Martin - マーチン ♦ 2 hours ago
Nice comment @Mart, kudos.
Hullo @ELiT! Welcome to the Table!
@Michael Yes, but usually it's worth discussing on meta first whether a tag is worthy to be created or not.
[rocks], as a subset of [geochem], is only useful to have when we find the distinction between just a [geochem] question and a [rocks] [geochem] question useful.
That would be something like when half the questions with the tag are [geochem] and the other half are [rocks] [geochem], give or take.
Otherwise, introducing more tags to this hocus pocus isn't good right now. :)
 
4:17 PM
@ⱮᏁℛ - do you think that this question is yet too stupid to be asked on the main site:
> I wonder if this reaction is possible (my goal is to create H3PO4 by reacting an acid and a salt) -- Pb3(PO4)2 + H2SO4 = Pb3(SO4)2 + H3PO4
And if yes, please recommend some basic level webforum. Oh, I just recalled I know Socratic. I'll try it out.
 
@CopperKettle It'd sound like a homework thingy.
I mean on chem.
 
@ⱮᏁℛ - yes, your first two letters are rectangles.
 
I think when you ask something, you should always give your thoughts.
@CopperKettle @
@CopperKettle At least one of them is visible.
The beautiful R thingy.
Next month, remind me to change into plain ol' "MAR".
 
@ⱮᏁℛ My thoughts are that this reaction is okay, but I can't seem to find it being discussed (on the web), and the textbook's answer section provides another way for coming up with H3PO4, so I wondered.
Why I think it's okay? one of the products is non-dissolvable, and the SO4 moiety is stronger than PO4. (0:
 
Hmm, I think it should happen since stronger acids usually react to give weaker ones.
 
4:20 PM
YEs, so my textbook says. There's this thing called the table of acid activity.
SO4 beats all other acids hands down
 
@CopperKettle Now you should totally ask it on Chem here. Write the title as "would a reaction between lead (II) phosphate and sulfuric acid take place?"
 
okay (0:
Maybe later, I'll better spend time making another problem from the texbook.
Thanks, and BBL!
 
5:03 PM
@Tan this is finally happening.
@Mart please it up. ^^^
 
I might do that tomorrow...
 
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Q: Throw in an idea for TRE (II)

ⱮᏁℛTRE (I) was a success . . . depending on how you define it, but the majority agree, hope or guess. I could've just gone on and thrown in a new plan of attack since there are only so many ways to get a list of questions and edit their tags and stuff, but I first wanted to see what you guys find f...

 
@ⱮᏁℛ please don't change to MAR... that would force me to change my name
 
@Martin-マーチン Thanks you.
@Martin-マーチン Oh, you have a point.
Get ready for some Hollywood action. — ⱮᏁℛ 25 secs ago
I wanted to comment "It's time to perish the nerds".
 
5:56 PM
@Mart I just changed name into something that'd make you, @Jan, @pH13 and certain other people happy.
 
6:11 PM
I wonder if metathesis reactions always have a salt as one of the participating species.
 
@CopperKettle What are metathesis reactions?
 
@ⱮᏁℛ I know they are called "Salt metathesis reactions", but in Russian we have an expression "exchange reactions", so I wondered. I haven't yet went to far into this all. Came across a nice PDF about Berthollet and got distracted.
 
@CopperKettle Oh, double displacement?
That's a very good question.
 
A salt metathesis reaction (from the Greek μετάθεσις, "transposition"), sometimes called a double replacement reaction or double displacement reaction, is a chemical process involving the exchange of bonds between two reacting chemical species, which results in the creation of products with similar or identical bonding affiliations. This reaction is represented by the general scheme: A-B + C-D → A-D + C-B The bond between the reacting species can either be ionic or covalent. Classically, these reactions result in the precipitation of one product. In older literature, the term double decomposition...
 
Double replacement, heh.
 
6:17 PM
The definition in Wiki doesn't seem to include an explicit mention of salts.
 
@CopperKettle Well, salt = anion + cation.
So no, double displacements happen quite often in organic stuff.
 
So we can call anything composed of an anion and a cation "salt", hence, SMR.
 
@CopperKettle Well, this happens a lot in chemistry: We come up with terms, then the science advances, and then what we used to define stuff happens for a very different class of compounds in very different conditions, so we get what I call a "terminology pothole". IUPAC tends to update the definitions.
 
nods
Here's where the name for Natrium came from:
Wadi El Natrun (Arabic for "Natron Valley"; Coptic: Ϣⲓϩⲏⲧ Šihēt "Measure of the Hearts", Greek: Σκῆτις or Σκήτη) is a valley located in Beheira Governorate, Egypt, including a town with the same name. The name refers to the presence of eight different lakes in the region that produce natron salt. In Christian literature it is usually known as Scetis (or Skete; Σκήτις, Σκέτη in Ancient Greek) and is one of the three early Christian monastic centers located in the desert of the northwestern Nile Delta. The other two monastic centers are Nitria and Kellia. These three centers are often easily confused...
> The English word natron is a French cognate derived from the Spanish natrón through Greek νίτρον nitron. This derives from the Ancient Egyptian word nṯry 'natron'.
Ancient Egyptian.
 
Chemistry history is very intriguing.
I never felt so interested in studying the history of anything.
 
6:36 PM
> In 1798, the chemist Claude Berthollet accompanied Napoleon’s military
expedition to Egypt. While visiting the Natron Lakes, a series of salt water
lakes carved from limestone, Berthollet made an observation that led him
to an important discovery. When exploring the lake’s shore Berthollet found
deposits of Na2CO3, a result he found surprising. Why did Berthollet find
this result surprising and how did it contribute to an important discovery?
 
@CopperKettle Glancing, I read that "the chemist dude Berthollet accompanied . . . "
 
7:28 PM
Hullo @Jan.
Y U NO TALK?
 
Jan
Hi @IͶΔ; cuz Iz watchingz an animu episode.
 
Bah
 
 
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Jan
8:40 PM
I can only recommend Jitsu wa Watashi wa; I find it very funny =D (CC@IͶΔ just bcuz)
 
@Jan o/
 
Jan
Huh? Link no workZ =C
Hi @Mith o/
 
What's this middle symbol in @IͶΔ ? Can't see it properly
 
Jan
@Mithoron Reverse N.
Initial guess: Russian i.
 
@Jan last is delta which is surprising
 
Jan
8:52 PM
@Mithoron INHeat o.o
 
 
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11:15 PM
chemistry.stackexchange.com/q/44617/21296 < Im sure this will get closed quite soon, but a wonderful question (I recognise its a terrible question for this format).... on the possibilities if someone handed you a key to a lab and let you do as you pleased (back to the 50's...)
 
Jan
@Not, still here?
Re acetonitrile: Yeah, we only have that real pure 99+% HPLC quality stuff, too (the good one for drinking xD) but really … an average preparative HPLC swallows something like 300 ml which happens more than once a week on average … and if you take like 300 ml once for a cooling bath and recapture them afterwards (what I did) it doesn't really show.
Plus, if we have a non-dry acetonitrile reaction, we would also use the HPLC stuff for lack of others … and I always use HPLC-methanol for wet methanol reactions xD
 
yeah still here
I take your point. If I needed to do it, I'd do it.
I dont find them great cooling baths (MeCN/CO2) anyway, which is probably why i'm reluctant to deprive the hplc haha
(im also guilty of using the HPLC MeOH/MeCN for reactions involving water, I find that easier to justify myself :P )
 
Jan
My dislike for the cryostat is stronger than my disapproval of MeCN … and I always use N2 as a cooling agent in MeCN which gives beautiful MeCN ice …
 
Cryostat is amazing. I like it even more because we have them set up in a separate hood so it clears space in mine ;)
 
Jan
Cryostat is a thing on wheels in mine which stands in everybody's way. Plus it wrecked the odd reaction by over- and undercooling already xD
Our Russian sub-group-leader once called it der Gerät (inaccurate German grammar) which is now our nickname for it — spoken with an element of disgust xD
 
11:28 PM
I dont know if this saying exists in german.. but the one about a workman blaming his tools? :P
 
Jan
Ask at German Language =D
 
Im not sure the answers will be of any great use to me :( sadly no germans in my lab
 
Jan
I just Googled it: I like the Finnish variant =D
 
That is a good one, though liable to cause offence?
 
Jan
It was clear to me that the animal was meant … But my Finnish's still rather basic, so … xD
 
11:34 PM
Oh wow, you're learning Finnish! thats a great/unusual choice :D any reason>
 
Jan
I was there, I liked the country xD
And then years later I was introduced to Nightwish, but I can proudly say that Finnish metal was not a reason when I started ;)
Wow, that question you linked didn't even make it into the review queue =O
 
@CopperKettle Hebrew word for sodium is "natran" btw
 

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