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Darius Jahandarie
Darius Jahandarie
4:10 AM
私にはカタカナは漢字より読むのが難しいかも。漢字はもちろん読むには勉強が必要なんですが、その勉強をしたらすばやく読めます。一方、カタカナは何をやっても私には本当‌​に読みにくいです。特に朗読の際。
 
choco
choco
4:28 AM
@snailboat 国語辞典のどれかに、ピッチアクセントを示す数字の載ったものがあった記憶があるんですが、見つかりません・・・
Yes! This is just what I'm asking about. Am I right in assuming that this is not a much paid attention to aspect of pronunciation for beginners like myself, seeing as how it's not a part of most dictionary entries? — David Bell 4 mins ago
っていうたはるんですけど。。。確かにどっかのオンライン国語辞書で見た記憶があるんですが
gooにもみつからないし・・・なんでしたっけ・・・？
あ、これだ
じ てんしゃ ［2］ ［0］って
 
Darius Jahandarie
Darius Jahandarie
大辞林を含んだオンライン国語辞書（kotobankやgooなど）にはピッチアクセントの情報が載っていましたが、一年前ぐらい急にほとんどのサイトから消えました。理‌​由はよくわからないですが。
出版社の提供しているバージョンかその値段が変わってピッチアクセントを表示できなくなったとかはありえますね。
 
Anonymous
@DariusJahandarie I still see it on Excite and Weblio
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
@choco Don't forget OJAD! :-) gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad
 
choco
choco
4:43 AM
@snailboat おおっ？
 
Anonymous
 
choco
choco
その辞書、始めてみるよｗｗｗ
Ｓｎａｉｌさん、回答して～
(もしあの質問がoff topicじゃなければ。)
 
Anonymous
Maybe we should add a pitch accent section to the resources page on meta.
 
choco
choco
まだなかったんですね・・・
 
Darius Jahandarie
Darius Jahandarie
OJADというとこの機能もすごいですね→ gavo.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/ojad/jpn/phrasing/index
 
Anonymous
4:46 AM
Then we can list those two websites, along with links to 大辞林 on Weblio and Excite
 
Anonymous
Oh yeah, that thing!
 
choco
choco
(×始めてみるよ →　○初めて見るよ)
 
Anonymous
Oh, I didn't notice! :-)
 
Darius Jahandarie
Darius Jahandarie
Me neither!
 
choco
choco
スマンｗｗ
 
 
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choco
choco
5:09 PM
帽子消えた
 
Ash
Ash
5:45 PM
本当だ…似合ってたのに(´・ω・｀)
 
 
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Anonymous
11:16 PM
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A: Resources for learning Japanese

snailboatPitch accent Online resources Sanseido Daijirin, 3rd edition - Designed for native speakers. Lists pitch accent for a very large number of words. Uses numeric notation, with [0] for no accent, [1] for accent on the first mora, and so on. OJAD (Online Japanese Accent Dictionary) - Designed ...

 
Anonymous
@choco I posted an answer, but I put it on our meta resources page :-)
 
Anonymous
11:37 PM
If anyone is knowledgeable about this stuff and would like to help, please feel free to ① add more resources or ② edit the descriptions of the ones that are already there. I think I've got all of the main online resources covered, which is what David Bell was asking for, but I know there are more resources you can buy that I don't know that much about.
 
Anonymous
Actually, even though I have the NHK dictionary, I don't really know that much about how it compares to the Sanseidō one.
 
Anonymous
So my descriptions for those two are basically stubs.
 
Anonymous
I just use my 電子辞書 and hit the 音声 button :-)
 
Darius Jahandarie
Darius Jahandarie
11:59 PM
I wrote this answer a little while ago, which could be linked to as a summary. But there's probably better ones out there somewhere. japanese.stackexchange.com/questions/11194/…
I regularly use the NHK iPhone app. Not sure what to say about it though.
 

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