The Nineteenth Byte

Challenge Winter is fast approaching with many places receiving the first layers of snow for the 15/16 season, so why don't we break out the snow machines and code ourselves some snow? Given a integer n via STDIN, output an ASCII representation Beta's snowflake (as described below) at level n. ...

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Thanks @BetaDecay and @ProgramFOX

ProgramFOX

no problem

Kritixi Lithos

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Anonymous

6:04 PM

Gah

Anonymous

I hate doing suggested edit reviews

Beta Decay

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ What ProgramFOX said ;)

Anonymous

All of them are people who are complete morons

Beta Decay

Hear hear XD

Anonymous

And their edits either make it worse or are just "why are you doing this"

Anonymous

6:05 PM

I don't believe there is such a thing as a suggested edit that actually improves the post

ProgramFOX

That depends on the initial quality of the post.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego I just did one in which attribution was added (i.e. link to the interpreter) :P

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Funny, I rejected that one. I stand by my stance that an interpreter link is better as a comment

Anonymous

(unless you're the OP)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Not a bad policy. Mine is that if it adds to the (quality of the)* post, and doesn't detract from the OP's original intent, it should go.

* Not by changing the code, mainly grammatical-esque errors

Anonymous

6:09 PM

I'm against other people adding links in edits on principle, too easy to add a malicious link

Anonymous

Let the OP add it themselves

TheDoctor

ignore this

Geobits

Isn't that why they go through review...? At least for suggested edits, it seems harder to sneak in a malicious link than it would be for the OP where it isn't reviewed.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

Anonymous

I view suggesting edits as a tool for correcting typso, pour grammer, `missing/broken code tags, and bad form
atting

Geobits

6:13 PM

I'd rather someone suggest something more substantive than simple proofreading (from a reviewer viewpoint). If I'm going to take the time to review, I'd rather not just look at your->you're, etc.

Anonymous

Well we both have our viewpoints

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Geobits I enjoy that type of stuff. It makes me feel intrinsically good.

Anonymous

I'm in the don't-do-too-much camp

Optimizer

@Mego suggesting edits should not be for typos etc. If you know there are typos or grammar errors, just go for it

Geobits

@Mego So am I. We just have a different definition of 'too much' :)

Anonymous

6:14 PM

Suggesting edits are for the people who don't have the rep to just straight-up edit it themselves

Anonymous

(unless I'm mistaken about how it works)

Optimizer

then it's for everything

Beta Decay

*it's

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

**it"s

Anonymous

@BetaDecay approves suggested edit

Beta Decay

6:15 PM

***it«s

Optimizer

if you don't have enough rep, then you don't really have any choice except for suggesting it

I see you all are low rep users

Anonymous

Exactly

Kritixi Lithos

Beta Decay

10k network rep mate ;)

Anonymous

@KritixiLithos somehow I think that might be fake

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:16 PM

@Mego waaaaaaaaat? That's totally legit, using state-of-the-art equipment!

Anonymous

My name is not Meg

Digital Trauma

@TheDoctor thanks for pointing it out. Its fixed now

Beta Decay

@Lego

Anonymous

Quit with your ZPSs :P

Optimizer

@kri

Kritixi Lithos

6:17 PM

@Mego @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ is right. JavaScript console was totally not used.

Optimizer

Paint FTW

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

^

I made the Mona Lisa in paint, but this site is to small too contain it.

Beta Decay

Also, what's with the news that bacon is gonna kill us? This is the kind of thing that turns the public against science

Geobits

Why would you think bacon would do anything except taste good and kill you?

Optimizer

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ link it

@Geobits I wonder the same

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

6:19 PM

@Optimizer I would, but the link would be too small to contain it.

Beta Decay

@Geobits Apparently it's carcinogenic

Optimizer

@BetaDecay exactly the point by Geobits

flawr

@BetaDecay Can you help me understand your new snowflake challenge?=)

Geobits

@BetaDecay Sure, along with basically all red meat (or at least, it slightly increases the risk, etc). People just throw bacon in the headline because it sounds better.

Optimizer

why does Japan has all the cutest versions of regular animals?

Shiba Ino, and now this flying squirrel

Geobits

6:20 PM

Anything will kill you at the right dose ;)

Anonymous

Everything is carcinogenic. Especially the review queue.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Everything is carcinogenic. Therefore, any x in U is carcinogenic. @Mego is in U. @Mego's claim is in U. Therefore, his claim and him are carcinogenic. I can't trust anything that is carcinogenic. Therefore, I can't trust you. But: a contradiction. I assumed what you said was trustworthy. THEREFORE, it can be concluded that PPCG is the best beta evah.

Optimizer

^ sounds something like what Beta Decay would say

Kritixi Lithos

Geobits

I was with you up to "I can't trust anything carcinogenic". That doesn't hold for me.

Anonymous

6:23 PM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ alex-is-cancer

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Kritixi Lithos

@BetaDecay That one's for you.

Beta Decay

@flawr What you have to do is detect each corner (each x which has two or more faces on the outside) and put a shape on it. It's hard to explain

Geobits

Harsh star(s)

Optimizer

well, cancer is wrong

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Geobits Thankfully, you can't downstar anything to my knowledge.

Anonymous

6:25 PM

He probably can

Geobits

>_>

Beta Decay

Geobits is a secret mod

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flawr

@BetaDecay I think now I see with the help of MartinBüttners answer.

Optimizer

Lets just assume that all those stars are down stars

3

Beta Decay

@flawr Yeah, I hoped Martin's answer would help :)

Geobits

6:26 PM

@BetaDecay Something something on the grounds that I may incriminate myself.

Beta Decay

Bloody hell guys, you are star-happy tonight :D

Geobits

~~tonight~~ today

Optimizer

~~tonight today~~ tonoon

Geobits

Eww, no :P

Beta Decay

I was about to post tonoon but I didn't wanna get flagged

Optimizer

6:29 PM

tonoon is offensive?

oh, you meant coz of -15?

Anonymous

what

Anonymous

How have I used all my stars?

Geobits

4 mins ago, by Beta Decay

Bloody hell guys, you are star-happy tonight :D

Optimizer

down stars cost 10 times

Anonymous

Oh right that

Thomas Kwa

6:30 PM

@Mego What's the star limit?

Anonymous

@ThomasKwa too low

-15

only for you

Aww

Ugh. It took 45 minutes to write an answer on SO, by which time the OP and everyone else viewing the question were apparently gone

Geobits

6:31 PM

@Rainbolt This pretty much sums up answering 98% of non-FGITW questions on SO.

Thomas Kwa

@BetaDecay what's it do?

Rainbolt

@Geobits Well I was the fastest answerer. I am the only answerer...

Beta Decay

@ThomasKwa Martin's answer for the Snowflake question

Optimizer

trrr trrr

Calvin's Hobbies

How does this not state the star limit?

Beta Decay

6:32 PM

@Optimizer How do you post CJam permalinks? :P

Geobits

Well, by FGITW questions I meant where it's actually a race to answer because they're so simple and people would rather try for some quick rep than find the dupe.

Anonymous

@Rainbolt Fastest carrot in the west, you are not

Optimizer

@BetaDecay have you visited the site at all?

Beta Decay

@Optimizer cjam.aditsu.net/#code=1%5D%5D%7B%7B0a2*f%2BzW%25%7D4*%7B%5B2%2C_m*%7B~W%2‌4m%3Efm%3E%7D%2F%5Dz%3Az2ffb1ff%3D__1m%3E%5C1fm%3E%5D%3AzWf%25(%5C%3A..%7C%7D4*..%‌7C%7Dq~*%22%20x%22ff%3DN*&input=10

It screws up :(

Optimizer

oh that is different. either short url it or escape everything

Anonymous

6:33 PM

in The Bridge, May 9 '13 at 14:53, by fredley

I don't have stars so I'll just have to use flags now

2

Geobits

@BetaDecay Yea, not like that :P

Optimizer

not exactly escape, but those %XX form

@Mego ~~starr~~ flagged

Calvin's Hobbies

> Everything on Stack Exchange is rate-limited in some way.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

Off to help the non-tech-savvy! Wish me luck!

Beta Decay

Let's try again :D

Calvin's Hobbies

6:34 PM

Not
multiline
messages!

Anonymous

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ turn them off and on again

Beta Decay

Well this was prettier than I expected

Optimizer

L
I
E
S

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego This typically works ^_^

Optimizer

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ how do you turn people back on? I think creating zombies is almost impossible

Geobits

6:36 PM

Defibrillator typically.

Anonymous

@Geobits Defibrillators only fix faulty rhythms. Once your heart has stopped, you're pretty much SOL.

Calvin's Hobbies

@Optimizer Truth

Anonymous

An adrenaline shot can sometimes help

Optimizer

W
T
H

S
T
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I
T

Beta Decay

@Optimizer Like this:

Optimizer

6:37 PM

cool story bro

Calvin's Hobbies

Mini-challenge: what number did I just post?

Optimizer

1 min ago, by Calvin's Hobbies

Anonymous

Don't make me grab Doorknob's trout

Optimizer

I won!!

I told the exact number he posted

randomra

@Dennis nice, I had no chance with the 8-long J, I was too focused on things like 8!/:!i:9, as i:9 is just the right length

Geobits

6:39 PM

@Mego Hmm. This is not what they taught us when we were trained on them. Must research now :)

Optimizer

@Mego ewww no

Beta Decay

Disclaimer: Bringing people back from the dead has never gone well in stories and won't in real life so don't try it

I don't want to have to learn how to chop a zombie up with a chainsaw

Geobits

@Calvin'sHobbies Is it pi^(e^2) ? My calculator only goes so far.

Calvin's Hobbies

@Geobits Outstanding

Beta Decay

wolframalpha.com

Dennis

6:42 PM

@randomra I didn't know i: existed. You really shouldn't have told me that. :P

Geobits

@Calvin'sHobbies S'ok, I cheat ;)

randomra

@Dennis why?

Dennis

Because now I know how your cop works.

randomra

oh, I forgot I had one :)

Dennis

I had figured out everything, except how to get the _9 ... 9 sequence in three bytes.

randomra

6:44 PM

lol, I guess, i: can help a bit in that case :D

the weird thing is that i:x and i.(x+1) both has the top element x

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

*mini-challenge* Given a string, format it into a space-lined octagon. For example, if your input was `hello world`, then your output would be:
      h e
    l l o #
    w o r l
      d .

(Period = blank space, # = space; the latter is shown for clarity, and is not to be outputted)

code-golf => shortest code wins

trichoplax

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ How are the lengths of the diagonal sides determined?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@trichoplax All sides are equal length. An input string must be mapped to the smallest possible octagon; this means that the diagonal side length must be equal to the vertical- and horizontal-side lengths

A side 3-octagon:
    . . .
  . . . . .
. . . . . . .
. . . . . . .
. . . . . . .
  . . . . .
    . . .

Anonymous

7:01 PM

Harder challenge: do that in Octagony

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Mego Is that a thing? ಠ_ಠ

Anonymous

No but Hexagony is

Anonymous

So Octagony would just be a derivative of it

Thomas Kwa

Hmm, that actually might work.

Dennis

@randomra Yes, that's a weird decision. Hey, who needs consistency? :P

Anonymous

7:03 PM

why is that starred

Dennis

There isn't a thing people won't star.

Anonymous

I won't star anything else today

Anonymous

Mostly because I can't

Dennis

Including messages complaining about improper starring.

New Main Posts

-2

Q: Cacti configuration

I installed the cacti for several sectors creating specific and precise users that the database user only see the hosts and BD services, as I set it inside the cacti?

data-structures

Anonymous

7:04 PM

How is it that Dogetor and I are the only ones that run out of stars, when everyone is so liberal with their stars

Dennis

Also, there's nothing I won't unstar. brb

Pietu1998

Alternate accounts (not that I had one)

Alpha Decay

Did someone say something about alternate accounts?

2

Anonymous

ಠ_ಠ

Dennis

@ಠ_ಠ

Beta Decay

7:12 PM

ó_ò

Kritixi Lithos

σ_σ

2

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ಠOಠ

Alpha Decay

ō_ø

Kritixi Lithos

I don't get it, I changed my name and it is not showing...

Alpha Decay

It takes time my dear boy

Kritixi Lithos

7:14 PM

Φ_φ

Alpha Decay

Or until aod refreshes your chat profile

*a mod

Kritixi Lithos

Λ_Λ

Θ_Θ

Dennis

The deed is done.

Beta Decay

Gah, someone set my browser font to Symbol

Dennis

@BetaDecay Was it @AlphaDecay?

Optimizer

7:16 PM

ϕ_!π

@Dennis Thanks :)

@Dennis Noooo... ;)

Bloody lier :D

Ь_Ь

will we now have RC Decay too?

Anonymous

7:18 PM

changes name to Gamma Decay

Dennis

@BetaDecay So, where does @AlphaDecay lie?

:P

Optimizer

before beta decay

Κριτικσι Λίθος

@Γ decay

Beta Decay

@Dennis Sofas, beds, floors

Thomas Kwa

I think you mean lowercase gamma

Anonymous

7:19 PM

@ΚριτικσιΛίθος I have no idea how to @-highlight your name

Beta Decay

Anywhere that's flat basically

Anonymous

Oh

Anonymous

NOOO

Dennis

LowercaseGammaDecay?

Anonymous

Change your name back! You're now the first tab-complete, instead of @ಠ_ಠ

Anonymous

7:19 PM

That'll ruin everything!

quartata

@NewMainPosts wat

Anonymous

@quartata yet another person who doesn't understand how this site works

quartata

I'm not even sure what he is talking about.

Cacti?

Dennis

To be fair, the Q&A format kinda gives the wrong idea. If the problem is puzzling...

Beta Decay

Only thing is that it isn't a puzzling problem to do with programming

It looks like it'd be suited for the Unix site

Dennis

7:27 PM

It's a programming question about a problem that is puzzling him.

And in its current form, it's off topic everywhere.

Anonymous

We can't fix stupid. All we can do is close it.

Beta Decay

Everywhere

Dennis

Including Yahoo! Answers.

trichoplax

Surely not

Beta Decay

What about Ask Jeeves?

Dennis

7:29 PM

I have no idea what that is.

trichoplax

Jan 21 at 15:34, by Geobits

Look around. It will make you feel better about yourself and worse about humanity.

Beta Decay

@Dennis en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ask.com

Dennis

Ew, the guys with the toolbar?

Bad memories from my Windows past.

trichoplax

Yes, the aggressive stealth toolbar

Anonymous

That used to be one of the best search engines

Anonymous

7:31 PM

Until Google came along and blew everyone else out of the water

Calvin's Hobbies

Do AOL cds still exist?

Anonymous

AskJeeves and AltaVista were top dogs

Optimizer

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Anonymous

@Calvin'sHobbies You mean coasters?

Dennis

There's nothing like opening the web browser of your computer-illiterate fiend/family member and counting the toolbars in IE.

Anonymous

7:33 PM

Oh yes, lots of computer-illiterate fiends. Hard to get good training in Hell.

Beta Decay

@Optimizer It'd be great if that showed the means as well

Optimizer

@BetaDecay means?

Beta Decay

Mean average?

Calvin's Hobbies

And how are the numbers assigned?

(-1 to 1 seems like a more natural range)

Optimizer

relative risk

as per the studies

it cannot be 0 ever

Calvin's Hobbies

7:36 PM

@Mego Yes. aka mini Frisbee, microwave experiment, etc.

Optimizer

nor negative

Anonymous

Negative cancer

Dennis

@Calvin'sHobbies I had a lot of them, but I sold them all.

Optimizer

cancer?

Beta Decay

techcrunch.com/2010/12/27/aol-discs-90s

Dennis

7:37 PM

AOL CDs.

Optimizer

oh ok. I was starting to wonder why will anyone buy cancer

Dennis

I was kinda surprised somebody would buy AOL CDs...

Optimizer

well, its almost the same chances

Calvin's Hobbies

@Optimizer play.google.com/store/books/…

Optimizer

is it art of living ?

Thomas Kwa

7:45 PM

I hit the rep cap \o/

earliest mortarboard I've gotten, I think

quartata

Aol is still a thing? I thought they had reorganized themselves out of existence.

Κριτικσι Λίθος

@ThomasKwa How?

Thomas Kwa

Mostly my Ti-BASIC answer to codegolf.stackexchange.com/questions/61781/…

Κριτικσι Λίθος

@quartata What is AOL?

quartata

America Online

Dennis

7:47 PM

@ThomasKwa Congrats!

They don't take the America part seriously though.

Thomas Kwa

Thanks

Κριτικσι Λίθος

@ThomasKwa I'm going to vote your answer up!

Thomas Kwa

@ΚριτικσιΛίθος Vote up the Pyth instead; it's shorter.

quartata

"That's the tunnel to AOLholm. We don't go there anymore."

Thomas Kwa

I don't like being the highest-voted answer when someone else has a shorter one.

Dennis

7:49 PM

There's a sweet gold badge for it though.

Κριτικσι Λίθος

It is a bugger when you hit your rep cap and then you get more votes...

Thomas Kwa

@ΚριτικσιΛίθος It's an opportunity to get free downvotes though.

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Dennis

Only if you get more upvotes after the downvote.

Thomas Kwa

@Dennis I thought order didn't matter?

Dennis

It does. It's like the bounded cumsum with upper limit 200.

I you get a downvote now, you'll be at +198.

Anonymous

7:54 PM

@ΚριτικσιΛίθος I'm sure @Geobits will be happy to help you out

Κριτικσι Λίθος

@Mego I have not hit my rep cap right yet.

Beta Decay

(∆)

(v)

quartata

I have never mortarboarded. And probably never will.

I consider it a miracle I hit 1k rep

Beta Decay

Pulls out upvoting finger

Anonymous

@quartata I read this as motorboated

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