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12:37 AM

@Ethan My chat account's parent is my Server Fault account, I use a more aviation-themed avatar for the Aviation site.

@falstro . . . how can you use those in the airplane? :-)

(I'm REALLY BAD at trig. Like embarrassingly bad. If it weren't for the E6B I would never be able to solve wind problems :P)

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Federico

7:41 AM

I was speaking with my father the other day. At a certain point of the discussion came out the thing that old propeller aircrafts (WW2 or earlier) had really strong engines and, if single engine, a lot of yaw moment on take off. For this reason he said that the pilots would misalign the aircraft so that the yawing due to the throttling up would align the aircraft.
I cannot find this technique described anywhere. Does anyone have any info?

4 hours later…

Stack Exchange

12:08 PM

Uncontrolled Airspace: General Aviation Podcast: "Thrust & Drag" UCAP #388

posted on August 23, 2015

A very cool replica of the Bugatti 100P... remembering Jim Bede... more on MAS370... Just Aircraft SuperSTOL crash... NTSB final on Harrison Ford crash. All this and more on the Uncontrolled Airspace General Aviation Podcast. Recorded August 11, 2015. http://uncontrolledairspace.com/img/2015/jack-w-spirit.jpg

Federico

12:41 PM

@DannyBeckett: pardon? aviation.stackexchange.com/questions/16690/…

how can you claim that those are two different answers? they both say "yes, for example you have: ..."

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Federico

4:10 PM

anyone feels like helping me understand the above? to me the user is simply cheating the sistem to get double rep.

casey

@Federico the answers are different and the system allows you to answer a question multiple times

if he is trying to game rep by not combining them, he's only up +20 rep

Federico

@casey I am asking for someone to explain me how those answers are different

are you suggesting that reirab's answer should be split in two?

casey

Q: What is the official etiquette on answering a question twice?

When is it okay to post two answers to one question?

Federico

20 for now

> if very distinct

casey

@Federico one describes a company that only sells business class seats and one is economy class specialty carriers

both are "specialty carriers", but that question is essentially asking for different kinds of specialty carriers

Federico

4:20 PM

so, two different examples for the same answer

casey

I don't see overlap between the answers

how are they the same?

Federico

Q: "Are there more?"
A1: "yes, example 1"
A2: "yes, example 2"

see the meta discussion, that's blatant "case 2" -> 1 answer

casey

@Federico by that logic, all the answers should be combined, because they are all the same

Federico

@casey from the same user

A: What's our policy towards multiple answers from the same user on the same question?

I've drafted up an example. Question: Is first class safer? Scenario 1: Answer 1: Yes, because... Answer 2: Somewhat, because... Scenario 2: Answer: No, because... Reason 1 Reason 2 If you have different opinions of a single subject, you can write them in two answers. But if you hav...

casey

flag it for moderator attention if you want. You'll get further that way than comments

Federico

4:25 PM

I'd rather avoid the mod-hammer use and solve it through the community

casey

but personally, I don't see them as "yes, example1", "yes, example2"

the question (taking more into account than just the title) is "what are some examples of alternative carrier business models", not "are there different carrier models"

if it was the latter, I'd agree with you, as "yes" would be a sufficient answers

but as the former, I see distinct answers, even from the same user fine

Federico

the body states

> Are there more? If so, where and how are they used?

to me the "yes" is the answer to the first (main), the rest comes as addendum

casey

@Federico solving it through the community isn't too much different that mod hammering it except it'll take a few more of you. You could edit his second answer into his first and delete the second, but you'll need a fair number of delete votes unless you get it downvoted a lot

Federico

> except it'll take a few more of you

to me isn't bad, if I cannot find others means that I am wrong

but if noone discusses I cannot know

Dan Hulme

5:27 PM

@Federico I don't know if it was ever true, but it's certainly not how we're trained to fly those aircraft today

Federico

@DanHulme oh, never doubted about today, I was looking for "the day before yesterday"

Dan Hulme

@Federico it seems unlikely, because it would make formation take-offs very difficult

but I will probably be speaking to some WWII pilots in a couple of weekends' time, so I may have a better answer for you then if you write it up

Federico

5:57 PM

"I write it up"? meaning that for you this is worth a full fledged question on the site?

Dan Hulme

yes

Federico

ok, I will try to word it properly

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Ethan

9:38 PM

Man there were some weird looking airplanes in ww2

ratchet freak

@Ethan a few well funded organizations trying to out do each other like their lives depends on it will do that

especially in a new field of engineering

1 hour later…

Ethan

10:55 PM

I got this info out of a book called Aircraft of WW2

Ethan

11:15 PM

Weirdest airplanes of WW2 Amiot 143, Arado ar 232, armstrong whitworth whitley, besson mb.411, beriev kor-2, beriev mbr-2, bloch mb. 200, blohm und voss bv 138, blohm und voss bv 141, breda ba 88 lince, bregut bre.521 bizerte, cams 55, cant z.501 gabbiano, consolidated pby-5a catalina, consolidated tby sea wolf, dornier do 17z, dornier do 18, fairey battle, farnier f.221
, fow wulf fw 189 eule, heinkel he 115a, heinkel he 162 salamander, martin b-10, messerschmitt me 163 komet, northdrop p-61b, saab j21, short singapore, supermarine walrus, vickers wellesley. Recommend u look these up…

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