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2:22 PM
@Sp3000 so you have a cjam code which is better than even Runner112's ?
 
Yup
 
wow
Jakube will be crying in some corner now
 
Posted
 
god! Whats with Python !!
 
Python gets a lot of votes because it's common, not as long as Java and "is a properly language"
I cbf trying it for this one though :/
 
2:30 PM
properly language ?
 
Proper
 
@Sp3000 how long is yours ?
 
4 mins ago, by Sp3000
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A: Do you want to code a snowman?

Sp3000CJam, 150 bytes Base convert all the things! "<mrdAAZU|&w"127:Kb8bl:~f="%e}*(Nx+.Sa}sVGE[^"Kb21b"mFo\GoVgbp2QEbn@/|~@6 P{Qv7UAX83'TYS9"Kb19b" _(.=/*\)-oO,<]>:[\""f=4/f=.=7/N* SE mangles unprintables, so here is a copy on Pastebin. Try it online (permalink may not work in some browsers). (ex...

 
@Sp3000 this doesnt really count ;)
pretty sure Runner's sub 130
 
?
 
2:32 PM
if you are base converting
 
Well you asked if it's shorter than Runer's and I said yes, it currently is
 
:D
its okay. but it doesnt count :P
 
:/
What would you base convert in Runer's, anyway?
 
feature-request: ?
 
2:48 PM
my family mostly plays board games on the floor
 
Mine would, but my dog isn't old enough to realize he can't play yet.
 
so he'll be allowed to play once he's older? :)
 
Sure. Most board games are 6 or 8+, so he's got a few years.
 
that makes sense.
 
heh, I'm more proud of my snowman discovery bonus than my actual answer
 
3:05 PM
@MartinBüttner Are we merging with B&CG?
We need a MTG tag if that's the case
 
3:17 PM
Star this message to vote for a B&CG merger!
 
Star this message if you hate kittens!
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@Optimizer Base converting yours yet?
 
oh, still in office...
but I doubt that mine will reduce that much.
 
:P
 
but Runner's will. :P
 
3:26 PM
How so?
 
its already 164, no ? :P
 
I'm having trouble see how you or Runer can save much with base convert
 
14 bytes is a very easy benefit target
have to see a movie, but after that, will tell you :P
 
Not when your string has a decent amount of unique chars...
 
only 21
gtg now
bye
 
4:06 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Uri ZarfatyTwelve-coin problem code-golf combinatorics Background The twelve-coin problem is a classic balance puzzle commonly used in job interviews. The puzzle first appeared in 1945 and was posed to my father by my grandfather when he asked to marry my mother! In the puzzle there are twelve coins, o...

 
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

randomraBooks on a Shelf code-golf sorting I have some books and a bookshelf. I would like to put as many books on the shelf as possible but I have a rule. All dimensions of the books (height, width and depth) should form a non-decreasing sequence on the shelf. This means every books has to be at leas...

if it seems clear and no comments I will post it
 
4:30 PM
I'm not sure If I understand the challenge.
@randomra
 
@Rainbolt Should I delete my answer?
 
Wait nvmnd, I think I get it now. It looks fun.
@TheNumberOne, if you don't mind, could I get some feedback on my KOTH challenge?
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

DJ McMayhem Lets play a game of Meta tic-tac-toe! This is a king-of-the-hill tournament of Meta tic-tac-toe. The rules of Meta tic-tac-toe are as follows: All of the regular rules of tic-tac-toe apply. There are nine boards arranged to make one master board. Like so: 0|1|2 || 0|1|2 || 0|1|2 ----- || --...

 
I guess @MariaTidalTug has left us now :(
 
@DJMcMayhem Looks like it would be relatively simple to find the optimal strategy.
 
What optimal strategy? What do you think it is?
 
4:37 PM
I don't know yet.
You don't have support for Java submissions ?!?!
 
I've haven't tried running java on my laptop yet.
Although OS X comes with a Java compiler, so I'm sure it would work.
 
The fact that Meta-Tic-Tac-Toe is a perfect-information abstract strategy game means that an optimal strategy is algorithmically simple to compute.
 
@DJMcMayhem Does this winning strategy apply to your challenge? boardgames.stackexchange.com/questions/12477/…
 
It's just a question of whether or not the game tree is large enough to prevent people from doing that.
 
No, If you send your opponent to an already won field, they can move anywhere.
 
4:40 PM
The rules that you added just make it easier to brute force the best places.
What if all the spots on one board are full when a bot gets redirected there?
 
Then you can move anywhere.
If a board is full or won, nobody can move there again.
@PhiNotPi what if there was a time limit on bots?
 
@TheNumberOne On the Minecraft thing? It's up to you. Seems to say that what the OP wants to do is impossible (using only redstone and pistons), but there's a comment with a link to a video showing that it is possible (using other means, but still vanilla).
 
@randomra I think I might be getting close to optimal. There's still a little play in small numbers, but I don't see a way to get much better for anything over 20 or so.
If you write a brute that works in decent time, post it so I can compare :D
 
5:07 PM
@Geobits Yes, she got thrown overboard. April Fools month is over
 
@Geobits If my algorithm is correct you are 20 bytes away from the optimal score.
 
Well damn. Now I have to decide if reworking it is worth the 20 bytes :P
 
(I haven't generated the StickStack programs just their lengths)
well, you have to find an algorithm too
 
Hmm. There are exactly 20 test cases.
@randomra Yea, that's what I mean. Sounds like work for little gain ;)
 
@Geobits they are all off by even numbers though
 
5:12 PM
I may have an idea why... but I really should be doing other stuff right now.
 
that's the motto of PPCG :)
 
5:42 PM
My procrastination shifted instead of ending. This site is fascinating in its twistiness: galileowaswrong.com
 
I almost died today.
Or at least almost went to the hospital.
 
How, What, When, Where, Why
 
I was driving back to the office on a 3-lane road, in the middle lane.
cross-street is also a 3-lane road.
I was in the MIDDLE lane, so [Median] :ME:
going 45, with a solid green
person in the cross street takes a right turn on a yield sign, and I'm like, sure, whatever.
He then proceeds to cross over into the middle lane without signaling immediately
So basically a right turn into the middle lane with ACTIVE traffic.
 
I discovered this earlier: handmadehero.org
 
I have exactly half a second to respond.
 
5:52 PM
guy codes a professional-level game from scratch, documenting all of it on twitch/youtube.
 
I respond in about 0.2 seconds, swerving into the left lane and counter-steering gently so I don't flip my SUV.
And the old guy doesn't even notice this s___.
 
if I wasn't revising for exams I'd go for the longest and nerdiest youtube binge ever right now...
5
 
So I'm basically still hyped up on adrenaline.
But basically almost collided into a car at 45mph.
 
@Compass That's messed up. I'm glad you're okay!
 
The weird thing is about 10 minutes before this, I saw the same thing happen on the highway.
 
5:55 PM
@Compass I had something similar happen some years back. It's crazy how you can react automatically when you really need to.
 
Thanks Martin! I'm glad to still be able to submit ungolfed entries to code golf contests!
I could have potentially rammed another car in the left lane had anyone been there.
I don't recall checking, but I assume that my brain may have checked for me, because if it didn't I would have knocked the car behind me into cross-street traffic or flipped it.
 
@Compass Do vehicles drive in the left lane over where you live?
 
Yes.
It is usually termed the "fast lane."
I only drive the fast lane if I don't plan to actually get off the road.
In this case, my exit was a block away so I was preparing to switch to the right lane after passing the old guy
 
I hate it when people slog along on the left with no intentions of passing or speeding up.
 
Ah. I know what you mean. The closest city to where I live that has those is 240 miles away.
 
5:59 PM
I hate it when people who aren't qualified at driving drive.
 
I hate people.
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Like, you should only be right turning into a middle lane when you see no traffic.
I was definitely there, and there is no way you can stop an SUV like that.
 
I'm hating the AP compsci class final exam I'm about to take in 2 hours.
 
its not that bad
i remember back in the day when i took that
10 years ago, holy cow
I am ANCIENT
Back then, all we had was Java 1.4.2
 
Yesterday I realized that the year was already 1/3 of the way over.
 
6:03 PM
OMG
back then, Java didn't have generics or enums?!
Wow, how far have we come O_O
 
i try often to share my codes hosted in this website compileonline.com/execute_matlab_online.php but doesnt last for more than a day
everyone had same problem ?
 
@Compass I'm not talking about the AP exam, I'm talking about the class final.
 
That's weird
 
I'm doing it through my state's virtual school program, because my school's physical CompSci class is starting up next year.
Normally I would not take a class final for an AP class.
But this time I do.
And I'm willing to bet that their exam questions are ripped from an old AP test and won't be curved.
And this counts as 20% of my final class grade.
much frustrated
 
Welcome to tests.
 
6:12 PM
how "i hate people" is starred wheras "lil brains" is flagged as negative post ?
 
6:27 PM
So, for giggles, I asked my Genetic programming framework to find a program that output the sequence 0, 1, 4, 9, 16, 25, 36... (n^2) and the solution it found in 6 generations was "Push the size of the stack onto the stack. Multiply it by the size of the stack before we did that, and output. Repeat." It kind of golfed its own code...
 
@BrainSteel how do you represent programs?
 
They're node trees. It's essentially a very small programming language that looks very similar to LISP. Here is the code it found, that gets output in a kind-of readable way: (*:0.000000 (StackSize:0.000000) (Push:0.000000 (StackSize:0.000000)))
 
how can @xnor's Python3 answer (codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/49665/7311) work with only one input() for a multiline input text?
 
I don't think it does...
 
I tried it online here, and I can't get it to work.
 
6:43 PM
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A: Sandbox for Proposed Challenges

Agawa001Create a program or function that, given a postfix expression, converts it to the simplest equivalent expression. The expression may contain real numbers, floating variables denoted a to z, and the basic arithmetic operators +-*/^. Two expressions are equivalent if they produce the same result f...

 
with a python program how can you solve that task (i.e. multiline input with unknown number of lines)? my ideas: sys.stdin.read() or something like try while 1: input() catch EOFError
 
There's os.read. I think there's a tip for that
 
right, still not shot though (codegolf.stackexchange.com/a/68/7311)
xnor's solution is still 130 with that so well below my solution :)
 
hmm this seems interesting challenge , which must have good outlet with matlab
u think im the only one handling this kind of oldfashioned language
 
6:59 PM
@randomra xnor's Python3 answer works with spaces: ideone.com/sc5Bk9
Not sure if this is allowed though.
 
@Jakube I don't think that's allowed.
 
@Jakube you ninja'd me hard with your comment :D
 
Ninja'd me hard -> Posted so before me that is was before me
 
@Rainbolt i.e. by more than a couple of seconds.
 
I would have thought the exact opposite. When someone ninja's me hard, I literally have my finger on the enter key
 
7:08 PM
no, then they just ninja'd you... they almost didn't.
 
That latest moment when my finger is on the enter key is when I have put in more effort than I ever will put into that message. By waiting until that latest moment, they have caused me to waste the most effort. Thus, that is when I am ninja'd the hardest.
If they give me, say, a five minute lead, then I waste no effort at all and do not feel ninja'd. In that case, I would say they ninja'd me softly.
 
Editing that post multiple times somewhat contradicts "...than I will ever put..." ;)
 
Well, edits after the fact don't count. If I get my message in first, I cannot be ninja'd at that point, and so no further effort can be wasted.
If I get my message in second, then I hopefully am paying attention after I press enter and will waste no more effort. Either way, no more wasted effort.
 
True. Both your uses of "hard" make sense when explained. I love that they're completely contradictory, though.
 
I will post on meta and see who is right.
 
7:14 PM
I am. No meta needed :P
 
Another proof that I am right: If you hit a tennis ball at me and it gets to me 30 seconds later, then you did not hit it hard. If I am instantly blown away by your tennis ball, then you hit it hard. We have demonstrated that the shorter the time between your opponent taking an action and you taking an action, the harder it was hit. Same for chat.
 
Counterpoint: If you troll someone hard, they may not realize it until much later.
 
You have foiled me
 
Lucky you, now the Lizard Illuminati can't read your mind.
 
7:19 PM
He's pretty much awesome:
> At the heart of his theories lies the idea that a secret group of reptilian humanoids called the Babylonian Brotherhood (including George W. Bush, Queen Elizabeth II, Kris Kristofferson and Boxcar Willie) controls humanity, and that many prominent figures are reptilian. He further proposes that the Moon is an artificial construct — "probably a hollowed-out planetoid" — from which the reptilians broadcast an "artificial sense of self and the world" that humans mistakenly perceive as reality.
 
This makes sense: For Icke, Barkun argues, the widespread ridiculing of the lizard hypothesis is a guarantee that there's something to it.
Someone who doesn't understand social media at all (and is maybe a touch crazy) would think that
 
Well, what would you expect lizards to say when you threaten to reveal them?
 
Do you wear a fedora to hide your scales?
 
No fedora. I show them proudly.
 
Oh right. You aren't Geobits
 
7:21 PM
Right, I'm his replacement from the hollow moonbase.
 
7:31 PM
I knew it!
 
The problem is: If I really was a reptilian replacement, would I tell you all this?
But then again, that's what I would say if I slipped up and told you, too.
 
Maybe after being on our planet so long, you've began sympathizing with our people. You're suffering from some internal conflict about whether or not you should tell us, so you keep changing your mind before you reveal anything.
 
I must alert the thought police quickly!
 
@BrainSteel If Rainbolt's hypothesis is correct (IIRC, that the replacement was done around the time of the avatar change), then I haven't been here very long. Certainly not long enough to start empathizing with weak-minded humans.
 
But you have been exposed to a moral conscience!
 
7:45 PM
ah, your avatar must depict the moon base
 
If this chat room is indicative of the human moral conscience, I cannot understand your species' longevity so far.
I mean, our species.
 
as long as you aren't in league with the deer, I see no reason our species can't continue to co-exist
 
Because they're planning our demise... Obviously.
 
(I'm steadily coming to the conclusion that wind-chimes must simply be a way to keep deer off the streets, they are singularly evil)
 
I think I'm supposed to say something about human capacity to love, then shoot you in the face, and then provide a corny tag line. But maybe we could deviate from that and just live in harmony?
 
7:47 PM
Sure, you try the hippy-dippy "happiness" way. I'll be loading my gun.
 
@VisualMelon In league with deer? We eat them, as do our lesser cousins, the Komodo.
 
my goodness
he is an imposter!
the real Geobits would know about The Deer!
wait, I totally misread that
ok, now I'm just confused
 
A human wouldn't be so confused...
Maybe you're all reptiles, just trying to trick me...
 
@Rainbolt You can still use the tag line :D
 
Ok, I'll give it a shot:
:D
Whew that felt good
 
7:51 PM
Much better. The lack of resolution to your last post was killing me.
 
An IMAX really makes a difference!
 
It also induces vomit in a couple family members of mine. Best trip to the movies ever.
 
well, better family next time!
 
No, I meant it. It was hilarious, and the movie sucked anyway.
 
Avengers ?
 
7:54 PM
@Optimizer there are other films, too, you know?
 
@MartinBüttner oh, he was being general!
 
No, it was some documentary at a museum. About Egyptian tombs and such. They felt the need to do a lot of swooping desert shots for some reason.
Probably to justify the IMAX they installed at the museum.
 
8:29 PM
@Jakube I crashed your pyth app
 
I'm a reptile :P
 
heroko app ? ?its not his.
or is it ?
 
Stopped working
 
haha. still, not his pyth app
 
8:43 PM
people talk often about avengers , is it because its 3D show made success ?
or is it because natasha romanoff
 
@Rainbolt Yes, it's not my app.
But the app very quickly recovers automatically.
I crash it myself way too often. Mostly because I switch g and y and accidentally compute supersets.
 
I wouldn't call it "very quickly" but it did recover lol
 
 
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11:37 PM
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A: Valid snakes on a plane

orlpPyth, 22 bytes J1ql{m+=Z*=J^.j)hCdzlz Note the ASCII values of SRL, respectively 83, 76, 82. I abuse the fact that: i 83 + 1 = 1 i 76 + 1 = i i 82 + 1 = -i From here I just keep a variable for the current position and current direction. For every character I multiply the current dire...

this one was pretty smart I'd say
 
11:57 PM
In other news, somebody stole $1 billion from Moldova.
aka 1/8 of its GDP
 
What?
Holy crap, is that true?
 
It's all white-collar crime.
 
Like siphoned funds from their national reserves or something?
 
Some businessman took control of three major banks (some state-owned), organized some shady loans with his "connections," and ran with the money.
 
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