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So I have sparrows, which are sentient and intelligent, which are physically exactly still just the same, no extra hands or anything, so any weapon would have to be held in the feet or somehow attached to the wings. They have roughly the mentality of this .gif, and I would imagine that simply ho...

Journeyman Geek

2:31 AM

@allquixotic: amongst other things

studiohack

2:43 AM

@DragonLord ipads... this is why I don't have one :P

Journeyman Geek

3:56 AM

naming systems is fun.

I need to see if I can sneak in Dalitron as a system name ;p

Bob

5:13 AM

@allquixotic blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2015/01/28/…

Journeyman Geek

ahh. So much new stuff. Its like christmas ;p

Bob

@JourneymanGeek ?

> .NET Core can be deployed app local

:D

Journeyman Geek

5:36 AM

@Bob got new monitors in @work

Bob

o.o

Journeyman Geek

6:04 AM

oh we didn't

But we're unboxing a load of stuff ;p

io9.com/…

Entirely unrelated but supercool

Journeyman Geek

6:24 AM

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Q: Measuring feline capacitance

When I pet my cat, and then touch her on the nose, I get a little shock. Sometimes, when she walks up to something, her nose sparks and she jumps back and puffs out. I was wondering how I might go about measuring the capacitance of my cat. So how many micro-farads does my cat have? I don't think...

capacitance

ARJUN

6:47 AM

Hi, I am unable to view www dir
cd /var/www/html

Journeyman Geek

Could we be any less precise?

Bob

7:35 AM

@JourneymanGeek "It broken."

Journeyman Geek

;p

Bob

ok I give up -_-

What were the Creatives you liked, @JourneymanGeek? :P

Or I could just get something like this :P massdrop.com/buy/blue-ever-blue-328r

Journeyman Geek

ma 330 I think

I can't see without logging in, and I'm at weeeeerrrrk

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Those are Blue Ever Blue 328R

shrug

Journeyman Geek

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Bob

7:47 AM

@JourneymanGeek Thanks.

I've grown a liking for flat cables though.

Journeyman Geek

That sounds either cheap and chinese, or super hipster chinese

Well, these fit

Bob

Say what you want about the audio quality of Samsung's included set, the cable is excellent.

Hasn't tangled in... ever.

Journeyman Geek

oh, this is perpetually tangled.

Bob

@JourneymanGeek idk, it's $20 :P

Journeyman Geek

hmm. $20 bucks is prolly worth a risk territory,

Bob

7:50 AM

lol

@JourneymanGeek Not in-ear though.

Which I generally like. Might actually be able to use them while lying down.

Journeyman Geek

ahh. I don't like in ear. I prefer over ear,

Bob

But in-ear passive isolation does help on the train... hm.

@JourneymanGeek They're just plain earbuds that sit at the entrance :P

Over/on is a tad bulky for me.

Journeyman Geek

lol.

I like the creatives cause I just dump em in my pocket. And they handled 2-3 washings.

Bob

And by "a tad" I mean how am I supposed to carry these around??

@JourneymanGeek That's how I tend ot treat mine. Minus the washing.

My earlier Panasonic and Sony sets were ruined in the wash :(

Journeyman Geek

My ATH-M50s were outdoor, and bulky ;p

The fishers haven't left my desk.

Bob

7:53 AM

Fishers?

Journeyman Geek

Fischer audio FA003

Bob

looks at price

cringe

:P

Journeyman Geek

lol

Bob

Yea, probably better off at home :P

Journeyman Geek

Yeah. Also heavy

But they really are nice, and I love em

(Amusingly two of my friends got em on my research, and loved em. A little like @OliverSalzburg's speakers... which are a model I wanted but are entirely unavailable here ;p)

Bob

8:03 AM

@JourneymanGeek Heh. I'm considering those Creatives... buuuuut...

I get the impression they won't be easy to find here :\

Oh look, $20 on Amazon... annnnnd doesn't ship here.

Journeyman Geek

8:48 AM

Heh. Creative is local here ;p

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Microsoft has two lockscreens for android

engadget.com/2015/02/03/…

Bob

9:12 AM

Journeyman Geek

9:31 AM

That fox is sitting in the middle of a murder ;p

3

Paul

9:53 AM

Spam spam spam superuser.com/questions/872997/hgh-few-queries

Any mods about?

Journeyman Geek

nuked that on SU. Damn that spammer has a lot of accounts tho

Bob

11:11 AM

@JourneymanGeek (☞ﾟ∀ﾟ)☞

Bob

11:26 AM

@allquixotic imgur.com/a/T3sdN

Journeyman Geek

O-O

DragonLord

11:43 AM

Raspberry Pi 2 has quad-core ARM Cortex-A7 Processor, will run Windows 10, keeps $35 price tag

Journeyman Geek

@DragonLord the odroid raspi competitor's the same price. Slightly faster, does gig e

DragonLord

What's really striking about this is that the Raspberry Pi Foundation managed to coax Broadcom to produce a custom SoC for them

The BCM2836 is a purpose-built chip designed to retain compatibility with the BCM2835 used in the old Raspberry Pi

Oliver Salzburg

Why is the shorthand for an "Update Rollup" RU? O___o

DragonLord

With that, the CPU is now a 900 MHz quad-core ARM Cortex-A7

HackToHell

12:02 PM

The Intel Edison is still faster and smaller :P

DragonLord

12:18 PM

I always wanted to get a Raspberry Pi but never had any particular application in mind, I'm not a maker myself

Perhaps this will get me to make the jump

ARMv7 means access to a vast ecosystem of software

DragonLord

12:53 PM

Raspberry Pi website has been down or in maintenance mode for a while, they're getting loads of traffic

Journeyman Geek

Maybe they're running it off a cluster of Raspi 2s ;p

HackToHell

lol

Journeyman Geek

(for comparison hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php)

And I THINK it'll end up being cheaper with shipping too

Sathya

1:11 PM

Bob

@DragonLord Not very hard considering their volume.

Journeyman Geek

And that

Bob

@DragonLord Fun little experiment, but just that. For anything remotely serious, I'd personally go for a low-power x86 box. Pipo X7 is ~100USD. NUC/Brix are more, but comparatively far more powerful.

If hardware hacking is more your thing... eh.

The GPIO is useful, but an Arduino (or other AVR prototyping board) are probably better.

DragonLord

1 hour ago, by DragonLord

I always wanted to get a Raspberry Pi but never had any particular application in mind, I'm not a maker myself

Bob

The RPI plus support (power supply, case, storage) is already 50-60 USD minimum.

DragonLord

1:25 PM

Then I suppose it's not for me.

Bob

I have an original model B.

Used it as a router for a bit.

I mean, it works. You can almost certainly find a use for it somewhere, and it's fun.

But personally I'd rather stick with x86 for actually getting things done.

Journeyman Geek

ditto ;p

Bob

Fiddling with AVR, ARM, etc... maybe if I just wanted to fiddle :P

Journeyman Geek

I had mine as a NAS, replaced it with a NUC-class system

Bob

Also, RPis aren't all that stable (dunno if they fixed that with B+ and now this)

They had a tendency to, ah... break the SD card.

Journeyman Geek

1:28 PM

@Bob: I got it running well enough using a HDD for boot

Bob

Also, tiny power fluctuations (including plugging in a USB keyboard while it's powered on) can cause it to reset -_-

@JourneymanGeek Ya, but then you're also paying for the HDD, and the USB hub...

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: yup

Bob

RPi looks cheap on paper, but once you get all the peripherals necessary, it's not so cheap.

I suppose if you wanted to build a cluster and shared some of the peripherals.

Journeyman Geek

I do constantly joke that I spent more than twice as much money on accessaries than on the cluster ;p

Bob

But otherwise cost-wise it approaches a basic NUC with far less compute power.

Journeyman Geek

1:30 PM

@Bob: If you just wanted compute, you could ISCSI boot them

DragonLord

@Bob I can repurpose the full set of peripherals connected to my laptop (monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc) but it's not exactly ideal

Bob

@Bob Model B, $35. Power supply, $10. USB hub, $5-$10 or powered hub $20.

SD card, $10-$20.

DragonLord

It's a huge leap forward for the maker community

Single-thread performance up 50%, 6x overall performance

Bob

@DragonLord Keep in mind that (unless they fixed it) you can't actually change USB peripherals while it's powered on.

Unless they go through another hub.

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: They probably should have with the b+

DragonLord

1:32 PM

@Bob I have a generic USB 2.0 hub on hand which I can use if needed

Journeyman Geek

Has to be powered

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Ah, yea, they updated the polyfuse on the B+.

DragonLord

@JourneymanGeek Don't think this is an issue, keyboard and mouse are not going to pull more than 500mA

Journeyman Geek

@DragonLord: keyboard and mouse should be OK. Any sort of storage on the other hand...

Bob

@JourneymanGeek On the old A/B models, simply adding the separation of an unpowered hub insulated the Pi from voltage fluctuations when you change peripherals.

Journeyman Geek

1:35 PM

oh?

Bob

Actually, the original revision didn't even have those issues.

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, the polyfuses...

Bob

It was the second (?) revision that removed the polyfuses to allow powering the Pi from a USB hub.

Journeyman Geek

The third revision allows that.

Mine's USB hub powered

Bob

Ya, mine allows it too.

DragonLord

1:36 PM

New boards shouldn't have the 140mA limit

The thing that counts is your power supply

Bob

@DragonLord I wonder how that compares to the Z3736F.

Oh, I fully expect it to perform worse - they are Cortex-A7s after all - but I'm curious how close it gets.

DragonLord

Not sure if the input polyfuse is rated higher this time around

I'd rather not bypass it

Bob

Ok, looking at old benchmark results it seems that the Atom N270 benchmarked approx 4x faster than the BCM2835 for sha1 hashing (integer calc).

Journeyman Geek

You don't generally ;p

Bob

Based on Passmark, the Z3736F is approx 3x faster overall and 1.5x faster for single-thread compared to the N270.

I am aware this is a highly inaccurate comparison, but it's the best I have right now :P

So the Z3736F might be approx 2x faster than the BCM2835.

That's excluding any accelerated paths, etc..

Keep in mind that the Z3736F is actually a 64-bit proc (though usually used with a 32-bit OS) and has a comparatively large L2 cache.

Not sure how NEON compares to SSE/AVX.

Hm... could get more direct results if only I had a BayTrail Atom to run sysbe- oh.

brb grabbing tablet :P

DragonLord

1:55 PM

Model B+ polyfuse is rated to 2A, and the RPi2 shouldn't be different

1.2A is available on the USB ports (but is limited to 600mA in the default configuration)

@Bob Claimed 20x performance with NEON compared to BCM2835 (about 5x performance per core).

Journeyman Geek

@Bob: I have a bay trail celeron I don't mind testing stuff on

DragonLord

Modern compiler technology (e.g. GCC auto-vectorization) should take advantage of these instructions

Bob

@DragonLord I'm more interested in how it compares with the Z3736F the Pipo X7 uses.

We all know the previous gen RPi was shit, CPU-wise.

Barely enough to get by.

Obviously better with this version, but how close does it come to beating the more expensive Atom?

DragonLord

Quad-core also means a much smoother user experience

Parallel compute capability means less CPU starvation when it matters most

Fewer hangs and waits, more doing

Bob

@DragonLord Less useful on a single-purpose server, though.

DragonLord

2:04 PM

In the education environment for which the RPi is designed, it means students will not end up waiting for the computer anywhere near as often

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Could you run the RPi sysbench command?

I only have Windows on this tablet, and it's too much trouble to build that tool.

Should be available prepackaged for Linux.

@DragonLord If the RPi is your primary computer, you have bigger issues.

I always viewed it as a machine you use for testing, not as your actual dev machine.

Especially since buying a display defeats the purpose of the low price.

DragonLord

@Bob I might get one as a development/experimental device

I might need to get another SD card, though

(I have a bunch on hand but would rather keep them for my camera)

Bob

@DragonLord Get a cheap one.

DragonLord

8GB SanDisk Ultra is cheap, though

Really cheap

Bob

RPis have a nasty habit of bricking SD cards.

At least the older revs did.

DragonLord

2:08 PM

16GB is even better

$12 for a reasonably fast, good-quality card

$15 for the microSD version

HackToHell

My Galileo killed a 8GB microSD :'(

Journeyman Geek

I use a 128mb one I has spare for ages ;p

HackToHell

128mb .... o.0

DragonLord

bhphotovideo.com/c/product/886010-REG/…

This will do the trick

$13.75

Journeyman Geek

yeah. I just have berryboot on it

HackToHell

2:10 PM

I have two of those ;p

Got them for about 4$

DragonLord

I generally pick SanDisk Ultra as my "economy" memory cards

Good quality, major brand, inexpensive, decent performance.

SanDisk Extreme and Extreme PRO cards are what go in my DSLR

Bob

@JourneymanGeek Ok, screw sysbench

Adafruit gives some in-browser benchmark results: learn.adafruit.com/introducing-the-raspberry-pi-2-model-b/…

They got 722 in Octane.

I get 3256 on Firefox on my Z3740 tablet, which is close enough to the Z3736F X7.

Some of that will be the better optimised browser.

That Brazilian Guy

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Q: Firefox think I'm using and older Flash version

Firefox is blocking Flash and saying it is outdated in an alert bar: I am already using version 11.2.202.240. Just to be sure, I ran yum reinstall http://linuxdownload.adobe.com/adobe-release/adobe-release-x86_64-1.0-1.noarch.rpm, it installed adobe-release-x86_64.noarch 0:1.0-1. Then I ran yu...

linux firefox flash flash-player fedora-20

Bob

And Sunspider is 2500ms vs 750ms.

Note that these are single-threaded tests, but both procs have four cores anyway.Inel Turbo Boost may provide an additional advantage in the single-thread scenario over a multi-threaded test.

Also note that I'm running these tests in a heavily loaded browser and with severe memory pressure.

Conclusion? Yes, RPi2 is better than the original RPi by a significant margin. But it's still far from being able to compete with a base-grade x86 proc.

That Brazilian Guy

Oh, you already bought the RPi2?

Bob

2:18 PM

...no

HackToHell

he's using adafruit's benchmark scores

That Brazilian Guy

ahh

HackToHell

According to that data the Edison is still faster ;p

DragonLord

@Bob Review unit under NDA until now, I suppose

Bob

7 mins ago, by Bob

Adafruit gives some in-browser benchmark results: https://learn.adafruit.com/introducing-the-raspberry-pi-2-model-b/performance-im‌provements

That Brazilian Guy

2:19 PM

...I wasn't here 7 minutes ago **hides**.

\* works! *__*

HackToHell

The Octane score of my laptop is 18k

In ff

I wonder how fast @JourneymanGeek s i7 is ;p

Bob

I did mention I'm trying to compare with a base Atom proc, ya? :P

Obviously any Core proc is going to be miles ahead.

Unfortunately, NUC-type boxes with better CPUs are considerably more expensive.

HackToHell

Blah my Quad core mediatek shit phone gets only 1828

DragonLord

Hold on, I'm loading Octane now.

Core i7-4800MQ, 2.7 GHz nominal, about 3.3-3.4 GHz single-core peak, Firefox 35.0.1

My connection is very slow, so it'll take a while to download the page

HackToHell

The page is large o0

DragonLord

2:25 PM

29256

HackToHell

That's ... 11k more ._.

I suppose that's a good score for a 15W TDP

DragonLord

Core i7-4800MQ has 47W TDP

But your results show how efficient Intel's processors have become

HackToHell

Yeah, it's pretty impressive

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell I could run it I guess ;p

DragonLord

@JourneymanGeek, I know it's late, but can you close all the duplicates?

List of duplicates: superuser.com/q/538383, superuser.com/q/871762, superuser.com/q/431073, superuser.com/q/311111, superuser.com/q/819820, superuser.com/q/692929, superuser.com/q/746344, superuser.com/q/373508, superuser.com/q/200910, superuser.com/q/73754, superuser.com/q/101190, superuser.com/q/327707, superuser.com/q/426218, superuser.com/q/445728, superuser.com/q/839177 — DragonLord yesterday

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Q: USB flash drive not working or is appearing as an empty disk drive, Disk Management reports "No Media" with 0 bytes size

I have a USB flash drive which is no longer recognized by my computer. Windows Disk Management and DiskPart report No Media with no storage space (0 bytes) on the drive and I cannot partition or format the drive: Source If the drive appears in Windows Explorer, trying to access it returns an e...

usb-flash-drive data-recovery hardware-failure community-faq

Journeyman Geek

2:35 PM

Yeah, its late ;p

DragonLord

A few of them need their duplicate targets changed.

Journeyman Geek

@DragonLord: If they already have duplicate targets, its ok

DragonLord

Alright, then close the rest as duplicates of this question.

Thanks.

I was surprised as to the sheer number of questions showing practically the same symptoms: "No Media" or zero capacity, flash drive behaving like an empty disk drive

Journeyman Geek

In your shoes, I'd throw them a closevote first post on meta, and let the community handle it ;p

(Instead of demanding a moderator's personal and undivided attention shortly before bedtime)

DragonLord

@JourneymanGeek I had existing votes to close with the wrong duplicate target, that's why

Journeyman Geek

2:39 PM

Oh, that dosen't matter. Dupes can be chains.

HackToHell

@JourneymanGeek yeah you can :D :P

Journeyman Geek

link?

Also, is it ok if I run it on windows? I don't have a linux partition at the moment

DragonLord

@JourneymanGeek Just something I'll keep in mind in the future. I'll post on Meta describing the canonical question and the action needed from the community.

Journeyman Geek

That would be nice, yes.

DragonLord

I wanted to do this but didn't want the community to get confused by my existing close votes

HackToHell

2:41 PM

octane-benchmark.googlecode.com/svn/latest/index.html

Journeyman Geek

In fact, it could be part of the existing question I asked you to post

HackToHell

Windows is awesome ;p

Journeyman Geek

eh

I'd rather run benchmarks on new systems ;p

25818 on firefox

DragonLord

18 mins ago, by DragonLord

29256

Journeyman Geek

Its 16513 on my laptop

HackToHell

2:44 PM

Mine does 18k ^_^

@JourneymanGeek That's low o.0

@DragonLord s laptop beats your desky

Journeyman Geek

I might have other stuff runing

donno ;p

HackToHell

:D

Sleepy @JourneymanGeek is sleepy

Journeyman Geek

I am XD. I want to catch up with TV first tho

0_0

HackToHell

That reminds me, I need to watch naruto ;p

Journeyman Geek

@HackToHell: 27870 on chrome

HackToHell

2:47 PM

After I finish writing this paper anyway :(

@JourneymanGeek It's still sorta low o.0

idk tbh

Journeyman Geek

Beats me

DragonLord

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Q: How do I carry a mouse with me without damaging the middle mouse button or other buttons?

As a student, I need to carry a mouse with my laptop, but I often end up busting up mice within a year because the middle mouse button gets pressed on hard enough in my backpack to damage it in short order. I've gone through some good Logitech and Microsoft mice as a result of this, and I'm not a...

mouse travel

It's been an issue for the past several years.

Journeyman Geek

0_0

hard cases exist for mice ;p

HackToHell

Get a bigger bag ? :D

Journeyman Geek

(Well I'll be. I just googled it)

HackToHell

2:54 PM

My bag is enormous ;p

DragonLord

It's been a nagging question for the past 3-4 years and I've been afraid to ask it until now

Journeyman Geek

evga.com/Products/Product.aspx?pn=100-PK-M101-BR (if you don't want mickey mouse)

google.com.sg/… if you do ;p

DragonLord

Hard cases, huh

Didn't know anything like this existed.

Journeyman Geek

or a soap box

neither did I!

DragonLord

I was wondering if Pelican Products makes anything that fits

Journeyman Geek

3:04 PM

@DragonLord: a compact camera case maybe?

DragonLord

pelican.com/cases_detail.php?Case=1060

Just checked the size.

8.25" x 4.25" x 2.25" is just about right.

Will compose an answer shortly.

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A: How do I carry a mouse with me without damaging the middle mouse button or other buttons?

I never thought of this, but as suggested by Journeyman Geek, a hard case is the answer. The Pelican 1060, at 8.25" x 4.25" x 2.25" inside (LWD), seems to be just the right fit for the larger gaming mice I use. For smaller travel mice, the 1010 or 1020 would be ideal.

Oliver Salzburg

@DragonLord Mentioning a specific product is not great (due to our product recommendation guidelines). Posting a picture of the product is more helpful; future visitors at least know what to look for

DragonLord

3:20 PM

@OliverSalzburg Image added.

I think the 1040 will do it but sizing is very tight

Oliver Salzburg

3:37 PM

@DragonLord Also: microsoft.com/hardware/en-us/p/arc-touch-mouse

DragonLord

@OliverSalzburg I had one, didn't really like it

Oliver Salzburg

@DragonLord Yeah, it's not perfect, but an interesting idea

allquixotic

3:51 PM

@Bob I actually tried Star Citizen again with the recent patch, and it's working perfectly in "Default Mode" of CrossFireX with my two Tahiti GPUs :D

I still don't have a very good control system to play a game like that properly, but the engine plays very wel

HackToHell

4:41 PM

>/tmp$ mv *.tmp /home/g0w/
mv: missing destination file operand after `/home/g0w/'
Try `mv --help' for more information.

What am I doing stupid ?

allquixotic

5:07 PM

@HackToHell /home/g0w is apparently not a directory

snipe

5:58 PM

.

That Brazilian Guy

@snipe .

snipe

im trying to add a delete option to services.msc

but I dont know what the class identifier is nor how to find it

I cant install shell+ either

this is how its done but this isnt a folder so I dont know which key it is maketecheasier.com/…

martin

6:36 PM

I would like to ask a question about hardware advice. I am looking to get a new system & have something in mind, and was wondering whether it is on-topic to ask here?

Mokubai

6:56 PM

@martin We're certainly open to general chat about hardware, but it seems a bit quiet in here tonight... I can chat for a while but may have to vanish...

martin

@Mokubai great! thanks :) I was considering a Chillblast system. I would use it primarily for fairly large combinatorial comupations. (Would also like to be able to use Photoshop etc.) - I can't really afford to make a mistake on this one!

Mokubai

@martin I saw your question, the machine looked an absolute beast...

martin

The main components would be

- Intel Core i7 4960X 6-cored Processor 3.6GHz (Overclocked to up to 4.5GHz)
- Noctua NH-D14 Ultimate Performance Quiet CPU Cooler (Socket 2011 version)
- ASUS Sabertooth X79 Motherboard
- 64GB Corsair PC3-12800 1600MHz DDR3 Memory (8 x 8GB sticks)
- BeQuiet 750W Dark Power Pro Cable Managed PSU
- Creative Sound Blaster Z Gaming Soundcard (OEM)

That's great :) I wouldn't like to go overkill on it though - would any cutbacks seriously affect perfomance, ie - a large expense for only a little better perfomance?

Mokubai

SSDs offer great performance but are much more expensive than spinning rust disks, so I'd evaluate whether you need the disk speed vs the cost.

Did you want to post the rest of the specs in case anyone else comes along?

martin

At the moment, I have a little laptop 3GB RAM & computations take forever, often crashing the kernel. How radically could I expect a machine like this boost performance?

Yes - will post rest of specs now

Mokubai

7:08 PM

Is this a gaming rig or a general performance work rig?

martin

Not for gaming, no.

Mokubai

@martin It depends a lot on the work and the program. Do you see 100% CPU use in task manager?

martin

Yes, frequently!

Mokubai

How much RAM does the program take?

martin

I mainly use it for Mathematica, but used to be a graphic designer, so would like to keep my hand in there, & would like to be able to work with fairly large PSDs if needs be

Mokubai

7:11 PM

Well, 64GB of RAM would definitely help there...

martin

Currenl;y running at 71%, but often goes higher.

Mokubai

The question you really have to ask is "Would the money lost in productivity waiting for slow components make a big difference to me?" Basically can you wait for a slow HDD or do you want everything "right here, right now"?

Spending a little more "up front" can make a massive difference in productivity, which can translate to cash if you do freelance work...

martin

Speed is important, but what is more important to me is that the computations will not crash the kernel.

Mokubai

A new computer should be stable and not normally crash unless there is some hardware fault. I'd suspect your laptop is probably overheating.

Newer processors have thermal management that slows them down for a period of time so they can cool and carry on working rather than outright crashing

Not knowing what your laptop is I can't say for sure but most desktop rigs completely spank laptops.

martin

I don't thik it's that - the kernel doen't crash exactly, just pops up wiuth a message that computation has exceeded available memory & kernel has quit.

Oliver Salzburg

7:17 PM

@martin The PSU is sweet, I have the same one ;D

Mokubai

Ah, ran out of memory...

martin

Would you advise spending money on a decent cooling system then?

@Oliver - great! That gives me a bit of confidence ion the choice!

Mokubai

If you are going to be consistently hammering the CPU then I would make sure the cooling was as good as possible, if nothing else keeping the CPU cooler means a longer lifetime for it.

Oliver Salzburg

@martin Get a proper CPU heat sink + fan, that's for sure. Stock is usually too noisy for my taste and didn't provide enough cooling in past experiences. Especially with a high-end i7 IMHO

Mokubai

but the cooler you've got looks pretty good tbh

Oliver Salzburg

7:20 PM

Ah, didn't even see it. Yeah, that one looks like it'd do

Mokubai

Looks pretty evil

martin

Great - thanks for the advice - I don't thik I have any more questions. You have both been really helpful - I really appreaciate the time you have given! :)

Oliver Salzburg

Make sure to get a nice SSD though :P

martin

@Oliver - will do :)

FISOCPP

7:47 PM

Hello

Someobody here?

Hennes

8:09 PM

Not really. Mostly idling and alternating between Industrial music and physics.

DANGER. Danger will RObison. More addictive than Wikipedia

That Brazilian Guy

8:28 PM

@FISOCPP Ain't Nobody Here But Us Chickens

DragonLord

10:19 PM

@martin The Noctua NH-D14 is the gold standard for air coolers

Not cheap, but very effective and exceptionally quiet

Does anyone here have experience with IC Diamond or other nanodiamond-based thermal pastes?

My laptop has it (both CPU and GPU) but I've heard that it scratches CPU heat spreaders especially during removal

Should I just pick a silver-based thermal paste instead?

Bob

11:38 PM

> Items: AUD 31.03
Shipping & handling: AUD 195.61

...nothanks

@Kobi: If you see the $_ (whose name, by the way, is “it”), then you are probably looking at not very good Perl code. It works best when it’s seen least, in little blocks where its default nature shines through, like for (@list} { s/foo/bar/g }. — tchrist Nov 11 '10 at 20:08

Journeyman Geek

lol

this happens a lot @Bob

@martin: Unless you're an audiophile and/or need the card for something specific, you'll do alright without the sound card

That Brazilian Guy

Is netflix down?

Psycogeek

11:58 PM

netflix the main site show up, dont know about the streaming

google earth "pro" in now free

formery $400 a year

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