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8:43 AM
@Scimonster It's a Unicode smiley, actually.
Fwiw, Hamichlala Haakademis Hertzog (which if I'm not mistaken is affiliated with or part of Y'shivas Har Etzyon, more commonly called "the Gush") now has its own 929 Web site, in addition to the Ministry of Education one. cc @IsaacMoses
 
 
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1:12 PM
@msh210 Haakademis?
It's funny to see it as Yom HaatzmauS. — Double AA ♦ Apr 27 '12 at 16:29
@Curiouser, I assure you I meant no such disrespect, and I prefer to transliterate Hebrew consistently with sav (without dagesh) getting transliterated as s rather than adjust my transliteration to the way I pronounce particular words. (That is, I pronounce Yom Haatzmaus with a final t, but that's inconsistent, and inconsistency in transliteration is a bad thing IMO.) — msh210 ♦ Apr 27 '12 at 18:02
 
1:42 PM
@msh210 Cool. Is that meant to be the "frum alternative"?
 
 
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4:13 PM
@Scimonster Precisely.
@IsaacMoses I heard from a source I don't know to be reliable that it was set up after slight uproar (from various widely-spread points on the religious spectrum) over some disrespecful-to-religion items on the Ministry site.
 
Herzog College (Hebrew: מכללת הרצוג, Mikhlelet Herzog) is a teacher's college located in Alon Shvut, Gush Etzion, in the West Bank. It is named for the diplomat Yaakov Herzog. It is located adjacent to, and associated with Yeshivat Har Etzion. The college is approved by the Council for Higher Education in Israel and offers fully accredited Bachelor of Education and Master of Education degrees, each with specialised tracks. The college runs separate men's and women's programs. The women's programs are based in the Migdal Oz Midrasha. == See also == Talpiot College of Education Lifshitz College of...
"It is located adjacent to, and associated with Yeshivat Har Etzion." Whatever that means.
 
4:34 PM
@DoubleAA Whatever, indeed.
@DoubleAA Thanks for the link.
 
4:45 PM
@msh210 I'll take this as a special case of "Kin-at soferim - tarbeh chochma"
 
 
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7:57 PM
Does this represent mainstream Jewish thought about the comparative glory of the temples?
 
My first question with 1000+ views! judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/52482/…
 
8:21 PM
@ablaze Yeyasher kochacha. Well-deserved.
@Mr.Bultitude I skimmed the first section, and it looks like it makes references to standard Talmudic accounts. Based on that, yes.
 
8:43 PM
@ablaze yeisher kochacha!
Nooooo! :-(
 
If I want to find out standard Jewish views on a verse, where can I look (beyond Rashi)?
 
9:11 PM
@Mr.Bultitude you can start with a chumash, which will include selections from the main commentaries (Rashi, Rambam, Ibn Ezra, Sforno, Ramban, occasionally others). Which ones the editors of any given chumash include can vary, but this can serve as a one-volume starting point. The Stone Chumash is commonly used. If you want to move beyond that, you're looking for either individual commentaries or a Mikra'ot G'dolot, but the latter is mostly not available in English.
(We have some relevant questions; hang on a minute while I find them.)
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Q: After chumashim with notes and Rashi, what's the next torah commentary I should acquire and study?

Monica CellioWhen I read the torah text (parsha or otherwise) I currently use a couple of chumashim with notes, and Rashi. I know some Hebrew but am not fluent. I'm ready to stretch beyond what I'm reading now and would like to add another commentary to add a new dimension to my study. The chumashim I use ...

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Q: Starting a Jewish Library

KenWhat Jewish Religious books should one consider when starting a Jewish Library in their home? A set of Shas (Talmud)and the Shulchan Orech (Code of Jewish Law) are the obvious ones, What else should be considered essentail for the jewish home?

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Q: How does the content of the JPS English translation of Miqra'ot Gedolot differ from that of the Hebrew version?

Monica CellioBecause I am not yet fluent in Hebrew I am excited to learn that JPS is publishing an English translation of Miqra'ot Gedolot. (So far they've done Sh'mot, Vayikra, and Bamidbar.) As noted in one of the Amazon reviews, a complete translation of MG would run to a much higher page count than what...

^^^ Last one mentioned because of the pointer to (partial) English MG.
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A: After chumashim with notes and Rashi, what's the next torah commentary I should acquire and study?

Isaac MosesI've got to put in a plug for the translation and commentary of R' Hirsch, of which I'm a big fan. I love his elegant, holistic, thoughtful take on the whole Torah, especially the ritual stuff in Leviticus (Temple offerings, ritual purity, etc.) that's otherwise most difficult to understand from ...

@Mr.Bultitude I hope some of that helps. This room will be winding down for Shabbat soon (that's within the hour for me, already started for some of our users, and imminent for most of the rest), so if you ask followup questions we're not ignoring you -- check back Sunday. :-)
 
9:27 PM
@MonicaCellio What's the problem? Now you get to have a second chat-party!
 
@DoubleAA but...but... I was psyched for going into Shabbat with that milestone! (Please understand that I am not really whining here; I was just surprised by the unfortunate timing.)
 
@MonicaCellio Of course that helps! Thank you very much. I may or may not have follow-up questions, we'll see. :)
 
@Mr.Bultitude great, glad to help! Please come back any time. Or if you end up with questions for the main site, that's good too. :-)
 
@MonicaCellio Are there any good web sources? Part of the reason I asked the question is because I'm looking for what Jewish opinion is on Malachi 3:1. (When did/will the Lord come to his temple?)
 
@Mr.Bultitude probably, though I don't have specifics at the moment and I have to drop off now. To your specific question try searching Malachi on our site (there may be a tag too); more generally, if you browse questions about interpreting Tanakh passages (there's a tag for "parshanut" that may help) you may find links to some in answers. Sorry I can't help more. Shabbat shalom!
 

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