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12:06 AM
Does anyone else have the impression that many people misunderstand the low quality flag?
They flag bad questions and answers with it, but don't vote them down.
And since there's no valid action in the queue to be taken if the post is just bad, but not off-topic/not a question/not an answer, we just have to click looks OK.
 
 
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1:08 AM
I still can't bring myself to ever say "looks OK" to things that are just plain bad, so I always skip them. If the devs really want me to essentially vote "do not delete" they should word it more like "is not a flagrant violation of policy" or something.
 
@ChrisWhite I always click looks OK, but open the thing up in another tab and vote it down. Clicking skip means just that more people will be presented with it in the queue when it has really no business being there.
 
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@ACuriousMind I know, and I feel guilty. But I feel wronged by the choices.
 
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It's like dishonest surveys that present false dichotomies in order to get everyone to pick the least bad option.
 
Yeah, I fully agree with that
 
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I have a feeling I've seen this before, in many disguises. You sure you're a new user? — ACuriousMind 8 hours ago
 
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1:18 AM
Since "perpetuum mobile" is either coming from a different language or from time-traveling steampunkers from the 1800s, I thought searching for the term would turn up even more posts by the same person
 
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Then I realized we have a ton of perpetual motion questions that use the term
 
It's Latin, and, at least in German, we've got no own term for that, we use perpetuum mobile for all such machines
What struck me was the similarity of the graphics used, and the use of the same variables
 
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Perpetuum mobile (Latin, English pronunciation /pəːˌpɛtjʊəm ˈməʊbɪleɪ, ˈməʊbɪli), moto perpetuo (Italian and Portuguese), mouvement perpétuel (French), movimiento perpetuo (Spanish), literally meaning "perpetual motion", means two distinct things: pieces of music, or parts of pieces, characterised by a continuous steady stream of notes, usually at a rapid tempo whole pieces, or large parts of pieces, which are to be played repeatedly, often an indefinite number of times. == As a technique == A well-known example is the presto finale of Frédéric Chopin's Piano Sonata No. 2: This figuration of rapid...
 
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It's a musical term in English, but I can't find any uses of it in reference to perpetual motion machines post-1861
 
It seems English is different, the German default article is about the machines.
Any translation I can attempt for perpetuum mobile sounds incredibly old-fashioned to modern ears
 
1:27 AM
I've terribly wasted a whole week of my vacation! (because I was out of town with no ways to connect to the internet - Thank goodness, I had a few books)
 
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut Y'know, there are ways to enjoy oneself without the internet ;)
 
user54412
At an intellectual level, I know that much (most?) of the world by land area doesn't have reliable internet access, but it still always feels surprising to hear about it from people.
 
@ACuriousMind What would you do? (other than reading books?)
 
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... probably because I wouldn't hear from people without internet access I suppose
 
@ChrisWhite That's because you haven't visited India... :P
 
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1:30 AM
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut should I visit India?
 
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All the Indians I know here keep recommending against it. It's like once they arrive in the US they start hating on their home country.
 
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut Well, on my own, indeed not much. But, for example, I went camping with some friends for a week a few months ago, and none of us had internet access for the week, and it was one of the most fun times of my life.
 
@ChrisWhite Yeah! Why not?
@ChrisWhite That, I can agree - Maybe, I'll do the same!
 
And I can't really fathom a reason to go out of town alone, except to visit people
 
@ACuriousMind Hah!!! The problem is I was under obligation to pay a visit to my aunt. My family was too busy in chatting, shopping, so & so - while I had nothing except my book and my laptop (there was no one to accompany me)...
I'm still jealous of US (the country itself for some good reasons) - especially how the parents treat their children
 
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1:35 AM
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut and how do parents over there treat their children?
 
Ahhh, family business. I'm fortunate that my parents aren't the type for such things out of obligation, and when we visit(ed) people, it was always fun for all of us.
Also, after I turned 16, they always left it up to me whether I wanted to come along or not.
 
@ChrisWhite In my state, the parents aren't afraid to kill their children! I'm quite lucky that my parents stopped hitting me 4 years ago
@ACuriousMind jealousiness is being amplified
 
Shivers running down my spine at the mere thought that the thing keeping my parents from killing/hitting me would be fear.
 
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@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut Interestingly, there is a trend for ethnic/religious/social groups to become more traditional when they come to the US. I think it has to do with clinging tightly to whatever is familiar when surrounded by so much that is different.
 
Nowadays, they get things done by me (like going vacation) either by force (ordering, arguing), or convincing for a few hours, (or days)...
 
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1:41 AM
For instance I'm told that arranged marriages and vegetarianism are more common among Indian-Americans than among Indians these days.
 
@ChrisWhite Yep! But, that depends on the caste. My parents have changed so dramatically over the past 3 years - that they've now left me almost free (I mean, decide things by myself - with a few exceptions still under their control)
 
@ChrisWhite One of these things is not like the other...
It's perfectly fine to take up vegetarianism as an expression of your identity and heritage - arranging marriages is not.
 
@ChrisWhite: I dunno whether you know... But, there are at least 15 castes (AFAIK) who have their own cultural laws or such obligatory stuff
 
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut I thought the caste system was formally abolished - is it really still that inherent in the culture?
 
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well, it is true that a disproportional number of Indian-Americans are/were Brahmins
 
1:49 AM
I guess this is just another one of these moments to realize that I'm a sheltered, eurocentrist being...
 
@ACuriousMind It's apparently abolished, yeah. But, people are still sticking to those things - Maybe it's a problem of developing nations. Though they abolish something, they don't enforce a rule - things still go on underground
@ChrisWhite Poor fellas. No doubt that "arranged marriages" and "vegetarianism" are a must for them!
 
2:06 AM
boo
 
@SabreTooth It's the spirit of a sabre tooth tiger, trying to scare us, appealing to ancient fears of the cavemen in us!
Or, it's some user expressing disapproval of something, I'm not sure
 
@ACuriousMind and also a rather insane member of the SE community
 
@SabreTooth From what I've read from you, you're one of the rather sane ones
 
i completely forgot I wrote a second question here
@ACuriousMind WHAT???? say it isn't so! Have to try harder
 
Alright, you're a complete nutjob.
 
2:11 AM
phew, that is a relief
 
@SabreTooth I think the dearth of answers to your questions sadly exemplifies our lack of experimentalists.
 
@ACuriousMind we need to get some hessian sacks, rope and a chocolate cake ... and lure them in
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@SabreTooth The fact that I initially associate Hessian with a matrix of second derivatives just shows that I'm right :D
 
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chocolate cake lures experimentalists? I'll switch away from theory for that
 
@ACuriousMind so we need a 'matrix of second derivatives' sack
@ChrisWhite have to wear chocolate cake hats
 
2:17 AM
Well, the cake is a lie as we all know, so that won't fool anyone...
 
lol, dang it!
 
2:29 AM
I found my question!!!
(I got distracted with stoushing with another religious nut physics.stackexchange.com/questions/149607/…
 
@SabreTooth Um...you do know that there's a tab called questions in your profile where you can find them all?
 
yes, yes, like I said, distracted
 
I don't see anything on that question...was there a comment thread deleted/move to chat?
 
nope
nothing, I am almost had to eat that lying chocolate cake
 
Soo...you were distracted somewhere else and not on physics.SE?
 
2:33 AM
I was in 3 places at once
 
I see, your comment with the link sounded to me as if it were related to the distraction, not the question you found, nevermind
 
I like to make a riddle of things every now and then
I have been on fire on my main site - ES.SE
 
Inquisitive mind that I am, I've found the religious nut you were referring to - another instance of things that make me literally shiver.
 
yes, thats wh I blocked him
<-- hardcore Atheist
irony is that I work in a religious school
 
@SabreTooth As long as they are of the "non-overlapping magisteria" kind, i.e. do not inject their beliefs into scientific matters, that shouldn't be much of a problem
 
2:48 AM
@ACuriousMind yes, this is thecase, and they know I am Atheist, and are okay with it, just as long as I do my job
 
Deciding a value to be moral or not leads to death.
 
Though I guess it is at least as troubling for you as it is for me that there even are religious schools. Children should not be separated/educated based on such worldviews in any way.
@Onlyheisgood. I have decided to judge many a value to be moral or immoral in my time. I'm still alive and well :)
 
@ACuriousMind I agree!
oh no,is he here?
 
@ACuriousMind Welcome to life and being well.
Indeed acceptance occurs after denial ^^
And if not then the death.
 
@SabreTooth Seems like it. I'm not averse to use flags liberally to protect this chatroom, though. Just treat it as another evening in the h bar, where the bouncers are watching closely ;)
 
2:56 AM
@ACuriousMind I am thinking of making a Faraday cage around my classroom, so my students don't go to the online games when they should be studying/researching
 
@SabreTooth lol...that's not a bad idea :D
 
@ACuriousMind well, I have him on ignore, so I am not worried
@ACuriousMind my boss gave me a funny look when I suggested covering the school in one
 
Yet, I think that it is often a better learning experience to just let them "get away" with not studying/researching - if they still manage to complete the assignments, and show mastery of the material, what's the harm in them doing it? And if they don't, the lesson through a failed course will be far more impressive than just another teacher "taking the fun away"
 
@ACuriousMind very true, and the shear effort in constructing such a cage
 
Well, it could be fun for you constructing it, I know you experimental types like building things ;)
 
3:01 AM
true, a Faraday dome!
 
Remembering my time in school, though, I must really say that the time people really began to realize they should study was when the teacher truly didn't care what we were doing during the lesson as long as we didn't interrupt it
And then came the exams. The teacher answered every question "What will be on the exam?" by "What we covered in the lessons".
 
i am getting that way.... 15 years in
@ACuriousMind yes! I do that!
 
@SabreTooth Yeah, the masters of that technique weren't young ones either :D
 
1 more year as a teacher
 
But, after some time, the others caught on that the teacher really meant what they said - follow the lessons, do the homework, ask questionsabout what you do not understand, and they would not fail anyone
 
3:04 AM
bingo!
 
If it weren't for the incredible amount of stuff still out there I still don't know, and will spend my life learning, I would honestly consider going back to school and becoming a teacher
 
i'm going to be glad to be rid of the job
 
@SabreTooth What will you be doing after it?
 
research hopefully
and hopefully away from the non-academic arena that is teaching
 
 
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5:28 AM
@ChrisWhite It would certainly lure me in.
::examines waistline and shakes head slowly::
 
 
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9:04 AM
@SabreTooth hey, why'd you delete your profile on HSM?
@ACuriousMind ah, glorious
 
 
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10:22 AM
@Danu hey :D, chess?
 
10:40 AM
@Phonon long time! sure!
 
 
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12:12 PM
@KyleKanos: Do you know how the Hermite basis functions for cubic Hermite interpolation are derived? Every paper I've read just presents them.
 
@ACuriousMind High school?
Does anyone know an easy mnemonic to memorize the Pauli matrices?
particularly the sign on the i's in the second one
 
12:36 PM
@Danu: Can't you just memorise it?
 
Yeah, I probably have by now
but it annoys me that there doesn't seem to be an easy way
 
Well, it's a minus I, so maybe a phrase with 'my eye' in it? I don't know, I just made that up on the spot...
That's all I can think of :)
Oh, maybe you can post it as a question on the English forum?
Have them come up with one
 
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Q: Limits of A Mechanical Processor

newbie_developer93Is it possible to build an electromechanical processor at high speed and capacity, with the same functionality as of today's modern microprocessors consisting of millions of transistors? I mean, theoretically an electromechanical processor at nano-scale should be able to be made competitive with ...

On topic? Seems like it might be more of an engineering problem
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@Danu the sign doesn't even matter, really... I mean, there's a sign on one of the i's and not the other, but it doesn't matter so much which you put it on
as long as your definition is consistent with any other formulas you use
(and if not, it's just an overall factor of -1)
I just remember that the minus sign goes on the upper right. (I hope that's correct :-P)
 
@DavidZ It doesn't matter? I'm working a lot with Pauli matrices now in the context of my QED course
and I really think it does matter there
@JamalS Lol...what?!
 
well, I mean, in any context where it does matter you'll be able to look it up. Like I said, all that's important is that you use the same convention as whichever other formulas you're using.
 
12:47 PM
I just want to be quicker when writing stuff down (i.e. the only point is not having to look it up every time, heh)
 
Eventually you just get used to it from exposure
 
I should have, by now haha
 
Well, the usual sign convention is to put the -i on the upper right
 
I'll just memorize it, I guess
 
Yeah, that's what everyone else seems to do. At least, I've never heard of any mnemonic for it.
 
12:49 PM
also, there's a reasonable chance I may be a moderator at HSM (temporary) soon; Could I bother you with questions if I run into dillemma's? :P
 
Sure
 
for instance
 
Or not just me, but all SE moderators - you'll get access to our network-wide mod chat
 
as a mod, one should really not VTC etc all too often, right?
 
Depends
 
12:50 PM
@DavidZ Oh, it's network-wide?! I thought it was site-specific
That's good news
 
Site-specific mod chat is up to each individual site's mod team - you can decide to have one or not
(I'd recommend it)
But there's also a network-wide chat for all mods and the SE team, precisely for these reasons
There's also a ton of information on Meta Stack Exchange that you can look through even now
@Danu anyway, on that, the ideal situation is that your high-rep community members do all the close voting, except in exceptional cases. Of course in order for that to happen you need lots of active high-rep community members, and also clear guidelines by which they can determine what should be closed
 
If something is obviously off-topic (e.g. spam), I'm sure you can VTC immediately.
 
That's what the beta period is for. Pro-tem mods have to lead the effort to build up the userbase and establish the guidelines during beta.
@JamalS yeah, true. One thing they do tell us is that if you see something that needs to be closed, you shouldn't wait to handle it just because you feel like that's the community's job. But again, that's in an ideal world. In practice it's more complicated.
If mods vote to close too much, then the high-rep community members get "lazy" and won't vote to close things themselves, because they won't see the need.
 
Right
Also, I'm not quite sure if I can be very useful in 'building the userbase'
 
Also sometimes there are questions where it's not totally clear whether they should be closed or not, and in those cases I think it's best for moderators to stay out of it (until the last close vote, anyway)
@Danu if you're being appointed a pro-tem moderator, the entire reason is that SE and the community thinks you're one of the best placed members to build up the userbase.
(by which I mean growing the site and getting good contributors more reputation)
 
12:56 PM
@DavidZ ...but in what sense? I don't have any connections or anything to get HSM more exposure
 
So reach out to other people in your community who do.
I'm not saying you have to personally promote the site yourself; the point is to inspire other people to do it on their own
and to kind of prod them into it when they don't feel like doing anything
(this is a part of moderator duty that we on Physics have been neglecting for quite a while, so don't take us as an example)
 
@DavidZ ...but how does one even do that
The userbase is very small, and there isn't (yet) a core of high-rep users that are really trying to 'care' for the site
 
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Q: How should we promote the site?

David ZQuestion #7 of the 7 essential meta questions is about promotion: once the private beta ends, how do we get people, and especially experts, to sign up and start asking and answering questions? I thought it would be useful to have a meta question where we can coordinate or discuss our promotion id...

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Q: How about a chat session to discuss site promotion?

David ZThe first chat session is complete and we had some good ideas come up. We are now trying to schedule another one. Stay tuned to the chat room schedule and/or the first linked question for details. Quite a few people have raised concerns about how well this site is doing, in terms of the number...

etc.
might provide some ideas
 
thanks
 
In early beta stages, you look for anyone on the community who is interested and active (rep doesn't really matter) and help them exchange ideas on how to use their enthusiasm to promote the site
You could get in touch with major figures in other HSM communities online
 
1:01 PM
I'm not even sure if I'll be a temp. mod yet... I just got this email invite a few days ago and accepted it. Do you know the procedure from there on?
 
@DavidZ: Every time I read such old meta posts, there seem to be few familiar names except for the moderators. Is there a statistic how many "high activity" users (the tag predictor indicates the system has such a category) from the end of beta stuck around till today?
 
@Danu as far as I remember the procedure is that you reply to the email to accept and then the SE team tweaks some flags in their database and makes you a moderator
They may be waiting to hear back from others, because I think they like to enable all the mods at once
@ACuriousMind you'd probably have to get that from data.SE
I don't think the statistic is readily available
 
@DavidZ Gah. Alright, something to do when I'm really bored - my SQL ability is abysmal
 
ask on Database Administrators :-P (not really, of course)
 
Also, did any of you run the 'people helped' script that is promoted in the featured meta post?
The number was way higher than could possibly be true for me
 
1:07 PM
...there's a script?
:-P
 
@Danu 66755
 
I really don't believe my posts helped that many people, but I could believe it reached them (which is why I would support realling it reach)
 
@ACuriousMind I'm getting 69418
it has to be nonsense
 
@ACuriousMind Yeah, that makes sense. From what I've heard about it, it seems to be based on reach. Of course there's no way to really measure how many people your posts actually helped.
 
1:11 PM
Anyone there? I have some layman questions on QFT. Can anyone answer please?
 
@Danu Why? Many of my answers are on posts with 1000-2000 views, some even 5000-10000
 
though looking at the query, it seems to filter only posts which have >5 score or are accepted or some other criteria
@galmeida what are the questions?
 
So I can believe I reached ~65000 with my "good posts"
 
Edwin hans intelligence 18, I think he could answer lol
 
@ACuriousMind that number is for me. I don't think I have that many views (highest views on a single question is ~2k)
 
1:12 PM
@galmeida Just ask and see if we answer ;)
@DavidZ It's off-topic, I cast a close-vote on it.
 
@DavidZ 1: How are fields in QFT described(comparing with classical physics)?
 
@galmeida Operators on some state space, I guess
@ACuriousMind I don't really agree... I'll refrain from voting
 
@galmeida A quantum field is an operator-valued distribution on spacetimes, that is, modulo technicalities, it assigns to every spacetime point an operator on the Hilbert state of space of the theory.
@Danu That's what the close queue is for - if you don't agree, vote leave open if you come across it there.
 
I guess if the post is in the close queue, I can unpin my message
 
@DavidZ: Heh. You've "helped" 1 366 710 people in your time here :D
I really don't get the use of that "statistic".
 
1:18 PM
How does one find that stat?
 
@ACuriousMind People like big numbers :-P
 
I really think it's strongly overestimating... at least in my case
 
@JamalS see the link I just starred
 
@JamalS Take the query, enter your user ID
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hmm... Is there a quick way to see the # of views on questions you answered?
 
1:20 PM
I'm 48999
 
Looking at some of the things I answered, I see that the viewer counts are surprisingly high
Maybe I was wrong
 
hmkay, that gives 16.5k already
there's a bunch of non-accepted ones too, so I guess almost 70k could be right
but man, that's high
Of course, the stupid ones are really givin everyone the lion's share of their views and stuff
 
@Danu To cite one of my all-time favourite question titles: Life isn't fair!
 
the question is @ACuriousMind what is "operator valued"?
 
1:28 PM
@DavidZ : Yes, it does seem more like an engineering problem.
 
@galmeida: QFT has no wavefunction. You can define a wavefunctional, but that is not always useful, and most introductory QFT can be dealt with without it.
 
@galmeida you can edit previous chat messages by pressing the up arrow, if you haven't started typing in the text box (in case you didn't know)
 
@galmeida operator-valued means exactly what I wrote thereafter - given a spacetime point, it gives you an operator: $\phi(x)$ is a different operator for every $x \in \mathbb{R}^4$.
 
@galmeida how much do you know about operators (like in ordinary quantum mechanics)?
@Qmechanic ok that makes three in favor of closing and one against I believe.... man I wish we had non-binding close votes
 
:18944440 Yes. The operator-valued distribution obeys the classical equation of motion.
 
1:32 PM
@DavidZ Yeah, I think it'd make more sense to give mods the option to choose whether to cast a binding vote or not
 
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Q: Add a way for moderators to cast a normal, non binding vote

Andreas BoniniI think moderators should have the ability to cast a normal, non binding vote like they were a normal user (while of course retaining their ability to cast a binding vote where necessary). This can be used in "grey areas" where a moderator can choose to give his or her opinion, but not make a de...

 
@ACuriousMind I think you're taking a bit of a high level approach lol
(as always :D )
 
I just wanted to ask: Does it surprise you? :D
 
@ACuriousMind about how much I know about operators :0 (I know only the basics from griffiths introductory book on quantum mechanics)
 
@ACuriousMind You just keep on reinforcing my German stereotypes :)
 
1:35 PM
But yeah, I guess something more...introductory is appropriate here, but I'm not good at those, because I find most "low level" approaches unsatisfying
 
Basically, the slightly simpler way to phrase it would be something like
 
@DavidZ : Come to think of it, as a mod, I never flag. But I guess, as a substitute for non-binding votes, mods could in principle flag as OT, to let the post enter a reviewer cycle.
 
It's similar to QM, except more complicated :P
 
@galmeida in that case, probably not much of what we tell you about QFT will make sense, until you get very comfortable with operators
 
(I'm too lazy to come up with a good explanation atm, sorry)
 
1:37 PM
@Qmechanic hm, I didn't think we could do that. I thought when you try to flag as OT as a 3k+ user or mod, it switches to the vote-to-close dialog box
 
@DavidZ It does.
And it drives me nuts every time I run out of votes
 
@ACuriousMind Yeah, you immediately add a VTC
 
@DavidZ : Ah.
 
@DavidZ I don't see any reason against granting moderators that power in that post, except for "The moderators should be creatures with god-like powers only using them when called upon"
 
@ACuriousMind Seems legit
 
1:40 PM
:: draws summoning circle and begins conjuring a Lower Moderator ::
 
lol
As far as I can tell, the justification is that moderators (or anyone, really) should only be voting to close when they're sure that a question is off topic. So if you're not confident enough in a question's off-topicness to close it unilaterally, you shouldn't vote to close it at all.
Needless to say, I don't buy that.
 
You should at least be able to make in enter the review queue - after all, you're there to encourage the community to do its job, right?
 
That's what I would think
 
There are quite a lot of things that seem to be quite obviously beneficial, and easy to implement, yet the SE team somehow just doesn't like it
Of course, overall, 99% of stuff is pretty damn good here
...but don't we all love bitching :)
 
Yep
This network runs on constructive complaints
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2:02 PM
@Danu: Regarding my "high level approach", I feel an odd connection to the teacher in the recent SMBC :D
 
@galmeida sorry we're not being very helpful ;-) You kind of wandered into the middle of another discussion so we're all kind of distracted
 
@DavidZ its ok .. I'm still trying to parse what was said and googling - trying to to avoid stupid questions, but they seem inevitable :P
 
'tis true. Everyone asks stupid questions. They're much more acceptable on chat though.
 
@galmeida Do you have a book or lecture notes to follow for QFT?
 
@ACuriousMind No .. I'm just curious about it. Actually I'm physics dropout, I graduated in CS. But i still read layman stuff on the subject .. I was curious specifically on how particles are "excitations on a field". Since I didn't know even what a field in QFT was, there is the question.
 
2:11 PM
@galmeida The problem is that it's really not possible to define in a precise manner what high level physics is about in a way that is understandable to a layman
 
In my experience, everything I knew about QFT as a layman (i.e. "particles are excitations of fields" and such stuff) turned to...not describe the theory very well at all
 
haha, typical ..
 
I mean, the words and phrases are true, they just don't mean what you think they mean
@galmeida you might want to read this. It describes the essentials of field theory using some basic math (simple differential equations) that you should be able to follow.
 
@DavidZ ok, thanks, I'll read it
 
2:47 PM
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Q: What happens if a question is edited after we answer it?

Sushant23Once, what happened is I answered a question which obviously I thought as an appropriate answer to that question. But after some time, the question was edited by the 'asker' itself. The edit changed the slight meaning of the question. Although it didn't affect the question much. But what about my...

 
2:57 PM
 
@Danu: I don't know how some people can have such dysfunctional brains!
He says he's updated the title... I think it'll take a lot more than that!
 
Laugh (or weep), vote down, and move on
 
@Danu: You're being very diplomatic with him :)
 
by the way, does anyone know whether there is a full video of this event ?
 
I think he is just trolling
 
3:11 PM
@galmeida Never explain by malice that which can be explained by ignorance
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6:56 PM
It's amazing that that question got two upvotes
amazing... in a bad way
 
7:12 PM
Hey, as far as I'm concerned it's just a garden-variety question-that-makes-no-sense.
 
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8:02 PM
Anyone else getting a message from Google that OpenID 2.0 is going away?
 
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A: "OpenID 2.0 for Google Accounts is going away"; will this affect Stack Exchange?

Martijn PietersStack Exchange already uses the OAuth 2.0 APIs to log you using a Google account; note the URL in those screenshots. You can also verify this by logging in with a Google account, the login screen URL contains: https://accounts.google.com/o/oauth2/auth As such, Stack Exchange is not affected by...

 
user54412
Never mind -- looks like it's a known issue with the data explorer
 
8:54 PM
@DavidZ It is a general phenomenon that puzzles me: Why do questions-that-make-no-sense so often get at least one upvote?
 

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