Posted my first post using the referencer script. Nice!

And an answer to that question, using the same script with the addition of r ....I could get used to this :P

@YeZ I didn't downvote, but it is a very poor question

@ShmuelBrin oh that's our Alex? Mazel tov! (I know he'll probably never see this, but just in case...)

@Shokhet I see a new slew of posts coming. Excellent!

@MonicaCellio I've just committed a new version with [h] / [help]. It doesn't have your external link or examples yet, but that's coming soon, b'e"H.

@HodofHod thanks!

Whoops!

@HodofHod yikes!

Quick survey: I'm editing one of the Chanukah pages for the publication and want to inline an English translation for "poskim". I first wrote "decisors" but that didn't seem to be much better. I'm currently using "rabbinic authorities" even though that's not precisely correct. Any suggestions or opinions?

(I'd like to thank my cat Giovanni for the premature first version of that post...)

@MonicaCellio Decisors is accurate, but perhaps "lawmakers?"

@HodofHod "lawmakers" is good. Thanks!

@MonicaCellio I started writing a quick cheatsheet for the top of the panel, and soon realized I was just rewriting the docs. Ugh. :D

@HodofHod think "example", not "documentation". :-)

And if it doesn't work it doesn't work; having the help option at all is already a win!

@MonicaCellio @HodofHod I had a moment like that today... but I wrote the code last week...

@MonicaCellio Mazal tov indeed! And he's been known to occasionally show up and post one answer before disappearing back into the real world

@HodofHod @MonicaCellio I think lawmakers gives the wrong impression that they're the ones who create the laws

@Daniel a posek is more like one's personal judge and lawmaker all rolled into one, but I need something shorter than that for a parenthetical explanation. Got any suggestions?

@Alex Welcome to Mi Yodeya

you're not the Alex we're used to seeing here

@MonicaCellio Why don't you like decisor? Just because it's a not-commonly used word

?

Maybe decision maker?

@Daniel I wonder if it's commonly-enough understood. I mean, it seems obvious to me, but I am not necessarily the user, and I don't see it used a lot in general discourse.

@MonicaCellio I guess the question is, who is our target audience?

I think that MY publications are likely to be viewed predominantly by people with at least enough knowledge ahead of time to know what a posek is

(aka our primary user base)

In general yes. Our goal for this one is that it's accessible to the whole family at whatever level of learning they have. I plan to print a bunch of them and leave them in our religious school for the kids to take home, for instance. But, that said, we don't have to scale it just for kids because those kids have parents (or are, we hope, old enough to use fire at least). Anyway, for the haggadah I wouldn't blink, but for this we're trying to be careful.

All that said, "decisiors" is probably fine (and it was my first instinct).

@MonicaCellio IMO, "rabbinic authorities" is the best translation of those mentioned here today

@IsaacMoses what timing -- I just changed it back to "decisors" not long ago. I'll leave that for now, but we should consider the question still open. (And you should of course feel free to edit, too.)

@MonicaCellio Not expecting you to change it on my say-so. Here's my pitch: "decisors" is not a word I've ever encountered other than as a translation for "posekim" (like these. "Lawmakers" makes me think of Congress, so ew, but also what @Daniel said, and also, I've never heard that as a translation of "posekim" before

@Daniel I thought of that, but I hoped that most will understand that that's not the intention - and those that don't, well maybe they'll be inspired to ask.

(Yeah, it's not the haggadah, but still :P)

@IsaacMoses when I got to that in the post I tried to think if I'd ever heard a one- or two-word English rendering of "poskim" (or "posek") and came up blank.

... and see comments thereon

@MonicaCellio I think "halachic authorities" is the closest two word definition - although it relies on the understanding of the word 'halachic'.

@IsaacMoses Judges? Interpreters of the law?

Oh, i think i finally figured out the referencer thanks to reading stuff here. I tried it once before, and it didn't work. I reenabled it and this went fine.

@MonicaCellio Whoa, whoa, woah. You can use extensions from a tablet?? I tried on Chrome on iPad AND Android but the extensions site said it wasn't available!

@MonicaCellio Six months later? How about just a couple weeks later... when you've totally forgotten all of your code.

The hardest part of coding for me is the cleanup - writing the documentation and tests. By the time i get to that point, i have no idea what it's supposed to do!

@Scimonster Yay! Let me know if you have any feedback, please :)

@Scimonster Some browser apps (like Dolphin) have extensions, and Tampermonkey has an Android browser app for userscripts

@DoubleAA I agreed, with 2 others. Are you looking for one more comment uptick?

@DoubleAA Why opinion based? judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/48307/…

@MonicaCellio @Shokhet [Just catching up here in chat.] Cf also meta.judaism.stackexchange.com/q/1776

@HodofHod is the [h] help thingy activated, and if so how do I use it?

@YeZ It should be, provided your script has been updated already

@HodofHod How often does it update, and how can I manually have it update?

or are those personalized settings

@YeZ Not sure, and yes you can. Either by going back to the GitHub page, or by going to your Greasemonkey/Tampermonkey settings and forcing it from there.

@HodofHod Where do you want feature requests or questions to be documented?

@YeZ Because i have a feature request.

@Scimonster I have a question with a follow up feature request depending on the answer to my question.

@YeZ @Scimonster There's a chat room for discussion/requests/etc, but its frozen at the moment.

@msh210 Got a sec?

@HodofHod Need them to bring back out the flame thrower?

@HodofHod Can we just post them here?

@HodofHod exactly.

@Scimonster I think so. Ideally they should be moved to that room afterward by a mod.

@HodofHod The room seems to be open.

Wait, scratch that @msh210, you've already unfrozen it.

That's what I call service!

@Scimonster Yep, my bad, I just assumed it would be frozen still.

@MonicaCellio @HodofHod eh. Decisors is better imo. A phrase can be more accurate at the expense of wordiness (natch): like those who decide questions of Jewish law.

@msh210 This explains so much

@YeZ A reopen vote would also be appropriate, I think. (Cc: @TheOther3CommentUpvoters)

@YeZ "does it make sense to give much importance to his contributions to other fields?" How do you prove that something "make sense" or not? Perhaps ask how Jewish sources have dealt understood and dealt with other Jewish sources which have this issue?

@DoubleAA I did vote to reopen.

@DoubleAA you prove something doesn't make sense by showing a logical flaw in the argument.

@HodofHod That's a nice picture of me there.

@YeZ Hm I don't see it...

@DoubleAA I dunno - I just tried to vote again, but apparently SE has different rules than Chicago and I can only vote once.