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tombull89
tombull89
10:00 AM
@OliverSalzburg reminds me of the Bing background I saw a few days ago...
HTML5 video is AWESOMMMMMMME
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
@JourneymanGeek I have to log in there occasionally to delete the virus mails that Gmail doesn't pull
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!!!!
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
Ah, cool, for unlimited storage they would only charge 60 EUR per year
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
superspeed is a "block cache" instead of a file cache, the SS people have spammed thier ramdisk and the cache for ages. Today i wanted to test a block cache, because it will cache stuff like big streaming style videos. because it is caching clusters of disk instead of files. 20 minutes of reading, way at the bottom Windows server platforms only :-(
Intel probably uses a block cache style for that ready stuff too, which wont work with ram. Is there a block cache out there for windows 7?
 
Omen
Omen
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
10:08 AM
The last bit?
India :/
 
Omen
Omen
watching Mr. T's world's greatest fools...loving it!
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
Aahhh, more dark theme freshness
I need to convert it to SCSS I think
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
looks like Microsoft has thier own block cache in server called CVS Cluster Shared Volumes . "Therefore, you want to ensure that you provision appropriate network bandwidth between your coordinator node and the cluster nodes as well as spread the coordinator node ownership for your CSVs across the cluster (this will parallelize the updates). Also, refer to this presentation for some additional CSV networking considerations:
I think i could understand that after the abduction and proper implantations.
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
I'm already clustering on a 3rd grade level
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
 
Bob
Bob
10:23 AM
@Psycogeek ReadyBoost works with a SSD (just ask @allquixotic)
Superfetch works in RAM
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@Bob superfetch is exes and dlls only? (program parts and pieces) or does it ever include file items being constantally worked on
 
Bob
Bob
@Psycogeek Hm. Good question.
I always thought it included data.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
It probably isnt block though, possibly by using a block cache these programs bypassing or not using the system file cache , would still be cached
 
Bob
Bob
Hm. I can't find any detailed info.
Pretty sure something in Windows will cache recently accessed blocks in memory.
It would be a massive oversight if they didn't.
The bigger issue is when you run out of available physical memory.
That's where the (usually larger) SSD caches help.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
""Cluster Shared Volumes (CSV) Cache is a feature in Windows Server 2012 and beyond which allows you to allocate system memory (RAM) as a write-through cache. The CSV Cache provides caching of read-only unbuffered I/O. This can improve performance for applications such as Hyper-V, which conducts unbuffered I/O when accessing a VHD file. Unbuffered I/O’s are operations which are not cached by the Windows Cache Manager. "
. . ."What CSV Block Cache delivers is caching which can boost the performance of read requests, with write-through for no caching of write requests."
unbuffered i/O uhh yea maby that is it?
 
Bob
Bob
10:33 AM
Hm.
So operations specifically specified as unbuffered. Ok.
 
Omen
Omen
I HATE bad grammar... editing questions, for clarity - mainly formatting and commas
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
It also would be interesting to have control of read and write cache ammounts, so i could figure out where the bigger slowdowns are. Checking testing and looking, and opening a file over and again, prior to finnaly finishing it (writing out)
 
Bob
Bob
@Omen Fragment (consider revising)
 
Omen
Omen
@Bob LMAO
still workingvon my fragments
and spelling
lol
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
Footpedal cache. Our uniqe cacheing system works with a click, hold the footpedal down when accessing any data you actually will need again. Double clicking footpedal engages write through cache mode, dropping the next write into ram, for background tranfer to disk . Yes you can make this shit up
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
10:40 AM
Oh, WebStorm
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
By manuel control of the caching mechanism the cache is no longer filled with tons of other garbage that are only read one time.
 
OSryx
OSryx
hello everyone :)
I have a question related to hardware
but it is off-topic if I asked on SE SuperUser :(
 
Omen
Omen
In Soviet Stack Overflow, vague homework questions downvote YOU!!
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@Bob right, i got that 32g of memory 4 gig of it is "used" by running programs and the system, the rest of it does fill up in the file cache 28gigs of stuff found in it, but it seems like either the cache is poorly implemented or just not operational for different ways of acessing the files. When in RamDisk i feel speed.
Take a 1Gig video file, if you open it, the Whole file is not read, hop to a section of it, the whole file is not needed to be read.
 
OSryx
OSryx
whats am I supposed to do please ?
@Omen were you talking to me about Soviet Stack Overflow ?
 
Omen
Omen
10:56 AM
@OSryx nope
in response to some extraordinarily vague questions I have been reading on the board
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@OSryx ask away
 
Omen
Omen
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
@Omen there have been a surprising number of reports in the recent era of electrical equiptment that is sending tiny ammounts of Wall Juice into humans by poor design. If only it could be seperated from the static.
 
Omen
Omen
@Psycogeek that is a worrying situation!
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
small ammounts of the change could be due to switching power supplies "nature" of chopping up large voltages with electrical switching, which differs from sending the wall into one side of an analog transformer and getting a 100% isolated low voltage out the other side.
The rest is crappy china products :-)
 
Omen
Omen
11:08 AM
sheesh... worse than my toaster
boom another one answered!
well I think I answered it correctly...lol
 
user285oo6
user285oo6
11:27 AM
hi i have question regarding email
 
Omen
Omen
hey @Psycogeek am I speaking gibberish in my answer superuser.com/questions/821934/…?
 
user285oo6
user285oo6
Is it possible to receive an email in which the from:,To email address are the same
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@OSryx: This is probably a better place to ask about hardware purchases
I guess you're looking at superuser.com/questions/821920/…
1) core i7s have two variations - the extreme edition and the regular ones. Within the regular versions there's the K version (Overclockable) and non K version (which has VT-D support). The regular, quad core versions are excellent - I have one that's a generation and half old, and I have no complaints.
The 'best' video card varies
I prefer nvidia for gaming (and in many folks experience better drivers). However the gforces are good at gaming primarily. (@allquixotic on the other hand favours AMD for gaming). At some tasks, a AMD gpu may be better - bitcoin mining is a notable one.
 
Omen
Omen
hey @JourneymanGeek... I am up to 2 answers now... catching up to you ;P
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
If you want the 'best' nvidia card for your money at the moment, look at the 970 series (there's 'better' cards like the 980 or titan but those are expensive)
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
11:34 AM
@JourneymanGeek oops i said to "ask away", and i meant in the chat
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Also, split up your storage
get an ssd (Samsung 850 pro is probably the best you can get right now) and a hard drive for bulk storage.
 
user285oo6
user285oo6
@JourneymanGeek what about a hybrid drive
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
meh
Hybrid drives are basically a way to get 'cheap' cache
 
user285oo6
user285oo6
so it won't be sefull regarding the speed
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Even my 840 pro will demolish it.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
11:38 AM
intels own testing shows that the hybrid with 20gig cache gave only ~25% overall, with writes having to go to both the ssd chunk and HD. reading all that it was a much better choice to have 4x kinds of speeds overall with just SSD only.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
nope
And the 850 is MLC rather than TLC
so, better lifespan and better speed
 
Omen
Omen
well, ladies and gentlemen, it is time for slumber for this weary teacher
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Oh, and matched monitors if you can, though I have a lovely time with my mismatched pair, and 16 rather than 8
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
Haswell overclock "refresh" chip, almost same price as 4770k is said to have the 2 removed features put back? Has more robust curcuity for the on-die voltage regulation, which i thought was interesting.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
It has vt-d?
That would be interesting
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
11:48 AM
i find , "Devil’s Canyon resolves these problems. This new core increases. . . , includes support for the Haswell TSX instructions and VT-d that the original Core i7-4770K left off, extremetech.com/computing/…
I do not use those things (that i know of) but saw it in passing.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Omen 2406 to go. Assuming I don't answer anything else ;p
VT-D is a bit niche but potentially useful if you run a 'real' hypervisor and passthrough pci-e cards
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
would either of those effect the operation of "XP-Mode" when running in windows 7 , which was slow?
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
nope
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
12:04 PM
good then i am missing nothing so far. the refresh vrses the normal haswell while starting with better clock numbers do not overclock for the 24-7 normal computer stuff any better. the TIM change was about 1/2 as thick, but still not soldered.
and yea somone is out there might be doing 5G with them, but there are a lot of cheap tricks. Lmiting cores, limiting overall power , dropping the cache speed low, quick tests on liquid nitrogen, low ram quantity, lower speed setting on ram to be stable. All things which for practical long term and high speed, and simple air 24-7
do not make an actually faster computer that is 110% stable
 
Hennes
Hennes
12:32 PM
@Psycogeek I am temped to play with VT-d. I got a spare RAID card, a spare SSD and I think it would be fun to play with it and gain some experience.
With a i7 920 with VT-d though. Not yet a nice new CPU.
(it would be great if there was a newer CPU for my socket 1366 though).
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
my desktop should be able to do that. haven't gotten around to trying it tho
 
Hennes
Hennes
It is one of the things I paid attention to when I bought this (now 5 or 6 years old?) desktop. A CPU with VT-x and VT-d and enough PCI-e slots.
Sadly those last seem to become quite rare is most motherboards.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
how many is enough?
 
Hennes
Hennes
3 or 4 slots. All at least PCI-e x8
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
12:45 PM
ahh, I thought most enthusast atx boards would
My older z77 does
 
Hennes
Hennes
One of two for expansion cards.
And one leftover for a GPU would be nice, though many boards also come with ancient PCI and I could put a board in that.
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob Softlayer just opened their new datacenter in Melbourne. They have a $500 off first month coupon. Yes, Softlayer is hideously expensive, but you could see what a truly awesome dedi on a world class server feels like if you spent, say, 600 (and actually pay only 100). Admittedly, for that price, you can get similar hardware as the Hetzner $150/mo level. But... dat latency
Or you could get, like, a Core 2 box for the same price as what you have now. With 4 gigs of RAM. Lol
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
lol
 
Hennes
Hennes
Core2 boxes are still OK for many jobs.
E.g. backup server, running a proxy, running a mud, etc etc
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
I wonder if anyone did something like those crazyass mac colos for nucs
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
12:47 PM
Bob should Colo, that would be the cheapest option for him in Australia
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Hennes: I'd rather have something cheaper and more modern
 
Hennes
Hennes
Both of them? Cheaper and more modern?
I agree with that.
It is just that older hardware is often sufficient and much cheaper
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Hennes: hm, though I suppose I did pick up a c2d off a dumpster
and you can't beat free
But something like a modern atom would probably pay for itself in powerbills.
 
Hennes
Hennes
it depends on how long you keep it.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Hennes: Well, my typical system life is at least 7 years
 
Hennes
Hennes
12:49 PM
A free (or very cheap c2d) and 5 years of power usage might be cheaper than a NEW nuc
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
I have a core solo and a core duo laptop in storage, and am using an atom mini itx and a bay trail celeron brix instead
 
Hennes
Hennes
Assuming you do not run it flat-out 24/7 (e.g. with dnet, SETI etc etc)
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
;p
also, assuming it runs 7 years
 
Hennes
Hennes
I still got an Asus Eee 701 PC. And since I already got it it is for free.
Celeron-900 at 500MHz. Low power for the CPU. Somewhat MORE power for the chipset, ...
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Apparently juno mk1 lasted about a year with me. Stopped working with the guy I gave it to ;p
 
OSryx
OSryx
1:21 PM
thank you @JourneymanGeek
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
1:36 PM
Uhm does anyone have the Android SDK
Need a link to a repo
I accidentally removed it and now I can't find it anywhere ._.
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic :O
...but I'd probably forget to cancel and get hit with a $600 bill -_-
@allquixotic Still expensive.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@OSryx: Oh, I'm assuming its a desktop - with laptops, I'd just go with a reasonable sized SSD if I was getting one now
I have no idea what's the new hotness with AMD video cards, though I've been tempted by the 290 once or twice ;p
 
Bob
Bob
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
Windows 10 9+1?
 
Bob
Bob
Turns out Hyper-V does not like the parent guest being suspended :P
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
1:46 PM
'Parent guest'? ;p
 
Bob
Bob
Yes, parent guest :D
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
You mean the guest host?
 
Bob
Bob
@JourneymanGeek :D
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob :(
@Bob wait. you have a VM in a VM?
yo dawg
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic yae, it's beating up my HDD queue
I'm moving it straight to the SSD now :P
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
1:57 PM
@Bob hehe. too bad. their CPU recentness, disk space, and RAM are not very generous, but word on the street is that Softlayer has the best network in the industry; lowest pings, least congestion, truly dedicated pipes, no problem pushing extremely close to your theoretical maximum, even halfway across the world. excellent peering.
I had a $700/mo server on Softlayer for nearly a year and was getting donations from people who played the game I was working on to help offset the cost
ultimately ended up going with a cheaper host, but we had fewer complaints about "lag" (it was an FPS game, so it mattered) on Softlayer than any host we used afterwards
very very very few complaints related to networking during that period of the game...
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic Oh yea, how's that game going?
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
@Bob There's an @allquixotic in your computer 8(
5
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob I stopped working on it. The original dev and I still keep in touch by email, but I didn't really REALLY DIDN'T have the time or money to support it anymore.
 
Bob
Bob
Well, pure SSD is certainly fast, but it's also running at 70 degrees...
Ok... what do I do with this OnePlus invite... got one left
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob OnePlus invite? O_o
 
Bob
Bob
2:02 PM
@allquixotic yea, got two overnight
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
if it doesn't support the Verizon LTE bands, I have no use for it, unfortunately :(
 
Bob
Bob
but I'm not actually going to buy the phone anymore
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
OTOH if I can plug in a nano-sim or micro-sim and have it "just work" on Verizon's network, I might consider it
 
Bob
Bob
they don't ship to Aus, which makes the logistics rather difficult
> the OnePlus One will not work on Verizon because Verizon uses CDMA LTE while the rest of the world uses GSM
though, isn't it a SDR?
so it's not really a hardware limitation?
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob if the phone has a SDR that you can customize, then the only challenge is implementing the protocols and/or authentication that VZW uses to let you on their network
which basically would consist of using the credentials on your SIM
no clue how that stuff works
 
Bob
Bob
2:05 PM
@allquixotic It's a Snapdragon 801
Oh yea, from earlier
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob sadly, that's hardly a "2014 flagship killer", when the Note 4 that's due out ... in 2014... will have a faster/next-gen processor
it's a "2014 flagship blend-in" at best. even Motorola is managing a Snapdragon 801 in their new flagship
(Moto is usually a gen behind)
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic Priced about the same as you'll find a previous gen flagship, though
I like Hyper-V
might have to look into installing it on the Win8.1 machine
Huh, interesting.
IE11 will auto-refresh a failed page load when you connect a network.
 
Journeyman Geek
Journeyman Geek
@Bob: At the moment, I'm somewhat fanboying over KVM/virt-manager
though a neat export/import option would be nice, alongside live migrations
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
2:47 PM
Ooh Android L preview SDK is out
When did it come o0
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
3:02 PM
Fuck this stupid gradle
100% processor usage
And fails to find libraries in the fucking libs folder
Bleh downloading the SDK all over again cause I deleted a fucking repo from SDK manager :|
And copying the libs doesn't work
> Gradle is build automation evolved. Gradle can automate the building, testing, publishing, deployment and more of software packages or other types of projects such as generated static websites, generated documentation or indeed anything else.
Time spent writing code : x
Time spent figuring out gradle : 2x
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
3:47 PM
You know what would be a great feature for Windows 10? If they finally removed all path lengths restrictions out of all components
It's ridiculous that one application can create a folder, and another can't remove it because the path is too long
That being said, this is a really neat PS script
9
A: du in powershell?

hollie317704I modified the command in the answer slightly to sort descending by size and include size in MB: gci . | %{$f=$_; gci -r $_.FullName| measure-object -property length -sum | select @{Name="Name"; Expression={$f}} , @{Name="Sum (MB)"; Expression={ "{0:N3}" -f ($_.sum / 1MB) }}, Sum } | sort Su...

 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@OliverSalzburg and allow Windows Shell to handle all file names that NTFS can handle? case-sensitivity?
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
@allquixotic Yes, yes, keep going
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
it's ridiculous that one application can create two files that differ only in case, and files with "invalid" characters, but you can't handle those properly if your file API is built on top of the Windows Shell
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
And forward slashes as path separator plz!
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@OliverSalzburg many/most APIs and interfaces already work with forward slashes o_O
not all, but certainly the path APIs of Ruby, Java, .NET, and even cmd.exe work fine with forward slashes
and that's on Windows 7
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
3:51 PM
@allquixotic Yeah, they work but often convert to backslashes, at least when they print a path
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
ah
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
Which is highly annoying when you copy & paste, especially in bash on Windows
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
it's most annoying when they are double-escaped, like when VS.NET converts two backslashes in the string into four in the debugger
C:\\\\Windows\\\\System32
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
You're like do --something /d/tmp/project and it's like Finished D:\tmp\project Argh, fuck!
@allquixotic :(
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@OliverSalzburg or better yet, fooWin32Command /thisOptionSyntaxSucks=D:\\blah and then you have to convert that into /cygdrive/d/blah manually ;p
@Bob wow, I have an 11-upvoted answer on aviation.SE and I've only flown in an airplane twice! :D
11
A: If a typical passenger plane had total failure of all engines mid-flight, is it possible for passengers to survive?

allquixoticThe fundamental parameters that determine how survivable a plane crash is include the vertical air speed (relative to the ground); where the plane strikes (ideally, it touches down on its landing gear or, in the worst case, on its belly, scraping against the ground); and how long it takes for res...

(thanks for linking me to the OP, btw)
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
4:22 PM
Huh -- looks like Slashdot is being slashdotted!
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
4:49 PM
On a Linux server, does it matter for the machine accounts what shell they use? I have some using /bin/sh, others using /bin/false. To clarify, these are accounts with a dollar sign at the end of their usernames, for Samba
 
HackToHell
HackToHell
yay,I am a Microsoft Student Partner now.
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
Yay, I got a gold badge for 10k+ views on a question :)
And congrats, @HackToHell
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
5:03 PM
@CanadianLuke using /bin/false or /bin/nologin or similar (basically any non-existent command, or any command that simply doesn't allow you to log in and do anything) is used to prevent people from sshing into those accounts and maybe guessing the password (or pressing enter, if there is no password) and obtaining access
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
Grand. I didn't realize they were actually login-able
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@CanadianLuke well, the accounts may or may not be disabled, and your SSH server may not allow empty password logins even if they're disabled, but it's security layers
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
Alright, good to know
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
layer 1: disable system accounts
layer 2: SSH servers should not allow login with empty password
layer 3: system accounts that aren't intended to be logged into should have a non-empty, random, non-guessable default password
layer 4: system accounts should have a "default shell" pointing to /bin/false or something else that's not a shell at all, so they can't do anything useful even if they get through all the previous layers
you'd have to break all four layers before someone could ssh samba@yourbox and get to a shell
most people who are poor at sysadmin knowledge could easily break 1 or 2 layers, but all four? unlikely
 
Oliver Salzburg
Oliver Salzburg
5:48 PM
The resolution on this livestream is breathtakingly amazing
 
 
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Michael Frank
Michael Frank
7:25 PM
@CanadianLuke At work a couple of us are getting familiar with server admin work. We've set up a Debian server and followed your blog posts as a guide. :)
 
Boris_yo
Boris_yo
Am I the only one who is without my permission opted by Amazon in its subscriptions based on categories I visit?
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
@MichaelFrank Sweet :) I'm glad it's helping people out!
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
8:06 PM
"Welcome Michael Michael Frank!"
...
the website asked me for: Name, First Name.
Then sent me an email saying that!
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
8:20 PM
@CanadianLuke When you installed Samba4, did you have to get it from Sernet?
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
9:14 PM
> Our goal is to develop algorithms for incremental cycle detection and topological
ordering that are significantly more efficient than running an algorithm for a static graph from scratch after each arc addition.
!!yes
 
ChatBot John Cavil
ChatBot John Cavil
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic -_-
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
@Bob the Robert Tarjan worked on that paper :D
 
Bob
Bob
@allquixotic why non-empty?
an empty password prevents login entirely, I thought
...wut
18
Q: Why should your code not use 100% CPU?

Nick UdellI'm speaking specifically about a C# .NET 4 program running on Windows XP or higher, but general answers are also acceptable. Assume an already optimized and efficient program. The problem here is entirely down to effects of high CPU usage on hardware, and whether a high-usage program should be ...

c# multithreading cpu usage
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
9:34 PM
@Bob does it? that would be defined in a PAM rule somewhere. and OpenSSH can be configured to allow empty password login, too.
 
Bob
Bob
hm
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
since root can always su or sudo into any other user's account, it really doesn't hurt to set random, cryptographically-strong passwords for all your system accounts that are not supposed to be logged into
 
Bob
Bob
so, yea, you can allow it
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
bad sysadmins then have one more thing to fuck up before you can get into the system
 
Bob
Bob
I believe it's usually disabled by default
Using the trick from "Evolution" (the movie), we can see that from the periodic table, they're vulnerable to Antimony so just throw any lead-acid batteries you have lying around and fire-proof materials and they should die. If things get tough, force feed them the batteries! — ivy_lynx 1 hour ago
Heh, I was about to suggest that :P
saw that movie on tv many many years ago o.O
 
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9:49 PM
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Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
@MichaelFrank I use Samba 3 still, as our company doesn't want to upgrade due to it being "work". And I hope you're not talking about signing up on my site and it sending you a weird double first name...
 
allquixotic
allquixotic
10:19 PM
0
Q: Faster cycle detection in a polytree

allquixoticI have a program in Ruby 1.9.3 that constructs a RubyTree (specifically, my data looks like a polytree -- at least it should, despite users' best efforts to foil my program with bad data) dynamically by parsing an XML document. The XML document does not explicitly specify the tree structure, but ...

ruby algorithm cycle digraphs
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
10:55 PM
@CanadianLuke Ahh okay thanks. Nah, you have to sign up to the SambaEnterprise site to get at the download repo files.
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
@MichaelFrank What?? Where do you see this?
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
They consider Debian Linux to be an Enterprise Linux because of its remarkable upgrade capabilities and the long lasting life cycle of each distribution.
So you can get Samba4/4.1 binaries from them, rather than having to build it yourself.
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
Uhhh, what the fuck?
Use the standard Debian repositories, and execute (as root) apt-get install samba4
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
@CanadianLuke That never worked lol
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
Can you post your /etc/apt/sources.list file?
Below is mine: 
deb security.debian.org wheezy/updates main non-free
deb-src security.debian.org wheezy/updates main non-free

# wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb mirrors.ece.ubc.ca/debian wheezy-updates main
deb-src mirrors.ece.ubc.ca/debian wheezy-updates main

deb ftp.ca.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free
deb ftp.ca.debian.org/debian wheezy-updates main contrib non-free
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
11:09 PM
#

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20140712-14:09]/ wheezy main

#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 NETINST Binary-1 20140712-14:09]/ wheezy main

deb http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main
deb-src http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main

deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main

# wheezy-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://ftp.nz.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
Should be fine...
samba.org <-- That's the official Samba site
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
well then...
http://www.samba.org/samba/download/

It mentions on here that the website I linked earlier provides binaries for Debian, so I got it from there. ^_^
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
Are you comfortable installing from a downloaded gzip?
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
I'd need to look up how to do it.
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
In a temporary working folder, execute wget http://www.samba.org/samba/ftp/stable/samba-4.1.12.tar.gz
That downloads the file from the web to that location.
Once it's done, execute tar -xzf ./samba-4.1.12.tar.gz
That will eXtract Ze File
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
11:14 PM
surely that's not the anagram(?) for that command? -_-
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
It's how I remember it
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
okay, I eXtracted Ze File. ;)
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
Inside the folder, there should be a configuration file to edit, and a file for installing. cd into the directory, then ls to see what's there
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
there are heaps of files in there
there's a configure file and a install_with_python.sh file.
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
Do you see one called 'configure'? I haven't looked in the archive, as I always install from Apt
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
11:19 PM
Yep. I see it.
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
OK, open it up and see if there's anything you need to configure
Are you sure you can't execute apt-get install samba4?
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
# apt-get install samba4
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package samba4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source
However the following packages replace it:
sernet-samba-libs sernet-samba-libsmbclient-dev sernet-samba-common
sernet-samba-winbind sernet-samba-client sernet-samba
sernet-samba-libsmbclient0 sernet-samba-libwbclient-dev sernet-samba-ad
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
Is sernet a translation of something?
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
no, Sernet are the guys that run the EnterpriseSamba site.
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
wiki.samba.org/index.php/… <-- Explains why I can't do that
Try apt-get install samba instead
No 4
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
11:26 PM
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 samba : Depends: samba-common (= 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u4)
         Depends: libwbclient0 (= 2:3.6.6-6+deb7u4)
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
apt-get install samba samba-common?
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
now it just says it needs that libwbclient0 depend.
which depends on some sernet file o.O
 
Canadian Luke
Canadian Luke
Try with Samba 3, maybe? Until Debian Jessie comes out with the full Samba 4 suite...?
I do apologize, but I have to run away right now. Add me on Google Talk, and I'll try to help you along. Or email me through the blog, that'll come to my phone
 
Michael Frank
Michael Frank
No problem, this is just a testing/learning system for us. I'm expecting it to break at some point.
 
Psycogeek
Psycogeek
11:48 PM
@Bob (Why not 100% CPU) "modern CPUs are cheap and will degrade quickly at 100% CPU" No they do not. I have run modern cpus and even non modern INTEL cpus at 100% all cores for 50% of the time of every cpu since pent2. Even ran a chip throttling from lack of cooling for months 100*C. 1 broken AMD from removing the cooling
Seti , $$coin stuff, folding, all run all cores non-stop unwatched, those people have never said "keeps killing my chips" or "cant afford to"
 
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