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9:00 PM
Which is also something I added.
 
@Arperum In the latest build (which is not running on my server) they only craft one thing - the thing you tell them to
@RonanForman hmm
Odd
Sounds like a job for: Debugging!
 
@fredley That's most certainly a good thing.
 
Unexpected token i, interesting.
 
@KevinvanderVelden You don't, I trash that one and you submit another
@Arperum I'll push the new version
 
@fredley Take your time, I'm going to bed now anyway.
 
9:01 PM
Oh right, I'm giving it a string rather than the object it represents, silly me.
 
@Arperum Well it's done
@RonanForman :)
 
It's annoying that my SASS thing creates slightly different code from yours >.>
 
@KevinvanderVelden Yeah. In theory, the CSS should not be checked in as it's a generated file
But aintnobodygottimeforthat.jpg
 
What kind of things can I give to an adventurer to do?
 
9:05 PM
@fredley I'm going to try working on building some structures code, specifically the rendering, to canvas or not to canvas?
 
@KevinvanderVelden Hmm, I have no experience with canvas, but it seems like massive overkill
x/y coordinates in a <pre> work well, and are cheap
 
@fredley not if we want to make it look pretty
 
@KevinvanderVelden ASCII ALL THE WAYYYYY
 
@fredley canvas is cheaper actually
 
@KevinvanderVelden orly?
@Arperum I wasn't sure about that
 
9:06 PM
Yeah, DOM is much more expensive to calculate than a simple texture blit =p
 
@KevinvanderVelden okok
blit away
Maybe have it so you have to explore the region you want to build on, and place torches
Or within the map you explore there are 'settlement points' that you have to find, secure and light up?
 
So, make the adventuring map and the town map the same?
Brb
 
@KevinvanderVelden Oh yes
2 maps is... strange
The way I'd do it: explore to find settlement point, 'adventure' in it (similar to Bat's popouts I guess) to secure it, expend n torches to light it up, then you get it added to your 'settlements' tab and can start building
 
Now I just need to make the menu appear infront of everything else rather than just where it fits.
 
The settlement point has a size variable, so that you need to explore to find spaces to build bigger, more productive cities, but to get to them requires gear etc.
@RonanForman position:absolute;z-index:9001;
 
9:10 PM
@fredley Cool.
 
@fredley Now just make sure you never add a z-indexed thing over 9000 yourself.
 
@Arperum Unless I want it above the menu
 
@fredley Obviously.
 
@fredley that could work! And it would also solve the issue of having settlements fifty bajillion meters long
Each settlement would just be a certain max size.
 
9:14 PM
@KevinvanderVelden Yup. Settlement is a single square on the map, but you can 'drill down' in a tab where it lists the buildings in there (or maybe a sub-map?)
@KevinvanderVelden Maybe a settlement size is sub-map size
 
@fredley submap is cooler IMO =p
 
@KevinvanderVelden And building high-tier structures requires certain amounts of lower-tier ones, so you can't building high-tier structures without a large enough settlement, and careful town planning
I'm liking this idea, though I say it myself :-P
 
Uuh, I found a bug
I just made a blacksmith
Told it to smelt iron ore, now both my iron ore and my iron ingots are increasing =p
 
Maybe I didn't quite fix up the smithing code... I'll sort it out
 
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Q: fixing diamond claw

lyleTrying to climb the mountain because diamond claw isn't working. Does anyone remember the path? Try going up by where arrived but can't seem to get any where. Is there more than one way to arrive at the temple?

 
9:21 PM
I have 2 options for the photo.SE picture of the week. Which one should I use?
 
How do you deal with conflicts in github?
 
@MBraedley Lets see
 
@RonanForman You resolve them
 
9:22 PM
@fredley By doing what?
 
@RonanForman So your files marked conflicted will have chunks in them where it's put in both sides of the conflicting code
 
@MBraedley always go with fire imo
 
Either use a program to view the conflict, or just use a text editor to manually choose which one you want
Either one, the other, or a mixture of both
 
@RonanForman A three way diff/conflict editor is usually the easiest way to go.
 
git mergetool might open one for you!
 
9:24 PM
always wash your face
 
@GnomeSlice shiny
2073
Q: Fix merge conflicts in Git?

SpoikeIs there a good way to explain how to resolve merge conflicts in Git?

 
@fredley I'm not in command line.
 
@RonanForman :(
@RonanForman Using github for Windows?
 
@fredley Yup.
 
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Q: What's the best three-way merge tool?

Dan FabulichSubversion, Git, Mercurial and others support three-way merges (combining mine, theirs, and the "base" revision) and support graphical tools to resolve conflicts. What tool do you use? Windows, Mac OS X, Linux, free or commercial, you name it. Here's a few that I've used or heard of, just to ge...

brb
 
9:26 PM
what is 'command line' anyway
 
@GnomeSlice get off my lawn
 
@fredley So are any of the updates you've been making live?
 
There doesn't appear to be anything in the actual conflict.
 
9:27 PM
It's just my code or nothing.
 
@RonanForman Unless there's a good reason for it to have been removed, resolve with yours
 
Tell me if that fucked something up.
And I don't have push rights.
 
@SaintWacko Yup, I think tommedley.com/incraftmental is pretty much up to date
@RonanForman No, you need to submit a pull request
 
9:32 PM
@LessPop_MoreFizz The domain of that url doesn't look promising
 
@fredley FeedBuzz is a Reputable and Reliable Internet Content Farm Corporation Publication Property.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Completely Reputable Authoritative Publication?
 
@fredley Undoubtedly and Indubitably!
 
@fredley I get it
9
 
@fredley Lost me on the second step.
 
9:34 PM
@RonanForman Think you need to be logged in at github.com and do it from there
 
@fredley I am.
 
@GnomeSlice May this day live on in history forever more. August the Second, in the Year of Our Lord, Two Thousand and Fourteen, The Day @GnomeSlice Got It.
 
We will tell our children about this.
 
Yeah, that's the first point. I got that.
 
9:34 PM
And they will tell their children's children.
 
@RonanForman Select your branch
 
The legend will live on and grow in the telling for generations and centuries to come.
 
2D darksouls?
 
It says choose the branch with my changes, there isn't another branch.
 
Did you read the bit where it said you need to create a branch?
You've got a fork, so you should be fine
 
9:35 PM
@fredley I don't I didn't do that in the end.
 
@RonanForman Oh.
 
FAE
I hate ending up in anxiety lock over my hobbies, argh. ._.
 
And when visitors from another planet finally make contact with humanity, hundreds of years hence, in the peace negotiations following the inevitable war, the ice will be broken at that summit by the telling of the tale of @GnomeSlice Getting It, and so, a new era of prosperity and joy will sweep through the Galaxy.
 
@FAE :(
 
@fredley I can't see a 'create branch' button.
 
9:37 PM
Hmmm, so you cloned, added commits, and now can't push back?
 
@fredley Yup/
 
I'm not sure how you make your copy into a new fork (but I'm sure it's possible)
 
Ecco the Dolphin is a disturbing game
 
@GnomeSlice more like super awesome classic game
 
@fredley So I do fork?
 
9:38 PM
wtf was it aliens or something
 
FAE
I bought new bass guitar strings today but the ones I got are a gauge step larger than the current strings on my guitar and now I don't know what I should do, if I should use them or if I should try to return them, but I don't think the store had the size that's on them now, and I'm not sure if the intonation's going to end up all messed up now and if I'll have to pay to get my guitar reworked.
 
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A: How to convert a readonly git clone from github to a forked one

Brian CampbellWhen you clone a repo, it automatically sets up a remote called origin which refers to the repo that you have cloned. This is now pointing to the upstream Rails project, but what you need is to create your own fork that you can push to, and then set up a remote that points there so you can push t...

 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Yeah I'm finally playing it, grabbed it for a buck from gamersgate.
My dad has it for Genesis but I've never really played it
It's kinda fuct though.
 
FAE
@GnomeSlice I had it for Genesis as a kid but I never finished it. It can be really hard. I have it on XBLA now.
 
@fredley sigh command line.
 
9:39 PM
@FAE Why would you need to rework?
@RonanForman Learn to love it. Most things are much easier on the command line
 
@FAE Finished it on XBLA?
 
@fredley Don't I want a branch rather than a fork anyway?
 
Besides, Ecco isn't as disturbing as Seaman if we're talking about aquatically themed old sega games.
 
@RonanForman A fork is a branch
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I just googled that. wat.
 
9:40 PM
But it's a special kind of branch that you can interact with.
 
FAE
@fredley The strings are different than the ones on it now and different gauges affect the intonation, but I'm not sure if this'll affect it enough that I need to have a technician redo all the intonation and tuning. When I first got it, I tried to do the intonation myself (and also adjust the action because it was way too high for me) but I was rather hopeless at it so I just paid someone to do it for me.
 
@fredley Then why was I even allowed to clone it without making a fork?
 
@RonanForman Because that's how open source works!
 
@fredley You can do crap that makes no sense?
 
9:41 PM
> you may not think I'm attractive. but your wife will.
 
FAE
@GnomeSlice No, not yet. Meant to, but I'm bad at focusing on finishing games. You can save anywhere in the XBLA version though (honestly can't remember if you could in the Genesis version, it's been so long).
 
@FAE I can do that in the PC one too.
 
@FAE Hmmm. Surely if the new strings work out you can just toss them and get old ones anyway? I have no idea how expensive bass strings are.
 
Elite Dangerous is hard :(
 
More like it just freezes where you left off
 
9:42 PM
Mostly because I have no idea what I'm doing
 
@RonanForman git makes no sense. Git is the worst source control, but it's also the best.
 
So was I supposed to make a fork, then lose all contact with what you're doing, then when I finally merge have 20 commits of conflicts to deal with?
That's stupid.
 
@RonanForman It's better than the alternatives
 
@fredley THEN WHY LET ME START DOING THE ALTERNATIVE?
 
FAE
9:45 PM
@fredley I just paid €30 for these, so I kind of don't want to just wing it. If they were <€10, okay, but I'd rather not do that for €30.
 
@RonanForman Are you using Github's definition of fork?
 
@Powerlord I don't know.
 
@RonanForman Sorry!
 
@fredley That was aimed at git.
 
@FAE Yeah. Can you get bass strings elsewhere?
@RonanForman Once you accept in your heart that git is cruel and makes no sense, you will find peace
 
9:47 PM
Cloning a repository is just making a copy of it on your local machine. Forking a repository in Github creates a copy of it in your Github files.
 
Otherwise, you'd have to clone it, adjust the remote repository and push it to the new repo.
 
@Powerlord I did the former, and apparently that's the worst thing one can do.
 
FAE
@fredley I found somewhere online to get them in my country (they're Ernie Ball Slinkys) but they're still like €25~ or so there. I just don't know what to do right now because I get really anxious about doing returns and more anxious about stuff regarding my bass because I'm still just a noob at this so I have like 0 self-confidence when it comes to anything dealing with the technicalitles.
 
@FAE :(
sadly I know nothing about basses
@RonanForman It's surprisingly easy to do the worst thing possible in git
 
9:50 PM
Okay, I give up. Delete everything, what do I do first?
 
@RonanForman No!!
Just follow the instrucitons on that SO post!
 
@fredley Didn't work, said it already existed, then didn't exist when I need to use it.
 
@RonanForman :(
 
@FAE Do you know anything about Pulstar?
 
ok, make a fork, and clone it in a new directory
copy paste your files over from the old repo
commit in one go
or hey, you know what I could do
 
9:52 PM
@fredley I can't make a fork, I already have one and trying to refork just opens the old one.
 
HANG ON JUST A SECOND
TRY PUSHING NOW
 
BECAUSE WHY NOT?!
 
PUSH PUSH PUSH
 
FAE
@GnomeSlice I do not, but now I want it
 
@fredley The repository doesn't exist anymore.
 
9:53 PM
@RonanForman D:
Set fire to your machine, buy a new one, and start from scratch
 
I'M GOING TO A BURLESQUE SHOW TONIGHT
I AM SO EXCITE
 
@fredley yup.
 
Where's the delete fork button damn you!
Why would you hide it? Reveal your secrets to me foul machine.
 
On Github's web interface, it's under the Settings button
 
9:55 PM
Anyway, porkchop bed time. Have fun with git
 
@Powerlord Not fucking there, I can delete the other two, but not this one.
 
@RonanForman You're stuck with your mistakes forever
no going back
rm -rf /
 
Wrong settings menu, found it.
 
Anyway, night
 
Fine, time for bed
cya chat
 
9:59 PM
@spugsley Enjoy the naked ladies
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh I will (also I think it's not actual nudity just very very very implied nudity)
 
@spugsley LAME.
 
I think I did it.
This is my greatest accomplishment to date.
Or not.
Or yes.
 
@RonanForman Greater than @GnomeSlice Getting It?
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz I managed to do something in git.
 
10:05 PM
@spugsley Is it Disney themed?
 
Yes, better than that thing @Gnome did.
 
@StrixVaria Care to explain why you deleted this
 
I have no idea what thing we're talking aboot
 
only for 10k+ users
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz @GnomeSlice Got It?
 
10:05 PM
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Q: PS3 or PS4 controller for playing games on Mac

MannyI wanna buy a controller of some sort to use it to play games on my Mac but I was not sure what is the best choice. Is it the Xbox, PS3, or PS4 controller? I'm mostly debating between the PS3 and the PS4 although I would get the Xbox controller if there was a good enough reason. My highest prior...

 
32 mins ago, by GnomeSlice
@fredley I get it
 
@lumbricuslubricant I meant the thing we're talking about with GnomeSlice.
 
FIRST COLOR CHANGING ICE CREAM, NOW THIS?
 
31 mins ago, by LessPop_MoreFizz
@GnomeSlice May this day live on in history forever more. August the Second, in the Year of Our Lord, Two Thousand and Fourteen, The Day @GnomeSlice Got It.
 
I was going to say "But I am a 10k user" except that my account was deleted 2-3 years ago now.
 
10:06 PM
31 mins ago, by LessPop_MoreFizz
The legend will live on and grow in the telling for generations and centuries to come.
@lumbricuslubricant Strix is busy becoming a daddy, but I can tell you it was flagged as VLQ and he actioned it. Can't speak to it any further than that because I am running late and need to leave!
 
@Ktash sadly no :(
 
@OrigamiRobot Truly we live in an age of wonder and magic.
Can World Peace be far behind?
I THINK NOT.
 
@spugsley dang. Is it themed?
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Surely when I am older, children will use this as a point of reference to my age.
 
@lumbricuslubricant He's away because his wife is having a baby :3 I don't think he'll be around for awhile
 
10:09 PM
"That guy's so old, he was around when @GnomeSlice Got It!"
3
 
@Ktash Yes. It's called like Sexy Safari :p
 
@spugsley haha nice
 
Also, can we get a close vote for this?
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Q: What are the chances of Energy Siphon appearing for a reward?

Shadow Z.While doing research on Warframe, I realized there was an aura I would enjoy using much more than my corrosive projection, and it was Energy Siphon. Much like other Auras, they are from Alerts. What are the chances that it will appear, and is there a specific time I should check the alerts?

Developer intent shouldn't be criteria for a question
 
@lumbricuslubricant What on earth are you talking about.
Y'know what, I've got to run. Cast a close vote, leave a comment, it'll sort itself out/people will take care of it. :)
 
10:25 PM
0
Q: How can I see all tech tree nodes?

Nick TI'd like to work towards some specific parts in the KSP Career/Science tech tree, but I have no idea where they are. Is there some setting in game (perhaps with a mod) or online resource I can use to show me everything to figure out what's where?

 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Developer intent, the OP was asking what was the drop rate of an item, when only the devs know the answer to that
 
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Q: Can someone gen a special pokemon? (pokemon X and Y)

MattI really want a bagon with dragon pulse, hydropump, and thunder. I know dragon pulse and hydropump are egg moves, but theres no way to teach it thunder. Would it be possible for someone to make me a bagon with those moves? I will reward you in trade as much as i can...

 
Quotes on Retail:
> Only five years ago, our survey showed that 58% of our customers bought their software in a box, at retail. Further, 24% of them expected to be still doing so five years from then. In reality, it turned out to be 6%. Retail disappeared even faster than our tech-savvy customer base imagined it would.
Quotes on Mobile
> Mobile development is [generally] not viable as a business model...yet
We’ve spent the past 2 years interviewing countless developers (big and small) and concluded that making games or software for mobile (iOS or Android) is not a viable business model yet.
Discoverability is terrible. It is difficult for quality products to float to the top. They’re flooded with drek and the user experience for exploring what is available is terrible. This is not something easily addressed.
Price sensitivity is too severe. Prices are traditionally determined by supply and demand. There are not remotely e
That is kind of sad
 
10:56 PM
@lumbricus that is the strangest definition of intent I've ever seen. The specific rate of a random occurrence can be empirically tested with enough data, and has always been firmly within our bailiwick.
 
Decalling all complete!
 
If, after reading this, you still disagree, you have a close vote. Use it. As a moderator, I have no interest in unilaterally acting on behalf of users unwilling to put their proverbial money where their mouth is with regard to moderation.
And remember, as a rule of thumb, developer intent questions can nearly always be phrased in a manner that uses 'why' or in the future tense. Neither works for this question.
 
11:11 PM
Got accused of hacking in Dark Souls again
 
Well stop hacking.
 
Tell them to git lrnd, hacking isn't cheating
or whatever the Dark Soul equivalent of that is
Hacking is writing a small cheat for the fun of it
Cracking is writing a modular cheating framework and selling it for money
Cheating is downloading cheats and running them
it's not a very difficult distinction to make
In general, if you are using "hacking" with a negative connotation, you are 99% likely to be using the wrong word
 
11:35 PM
I don't know why, but finding people who want to go see Book of Mormon has been very difficult
 
It doesn't sound like a fun, or pleasant, movie about a popular topic.
The general wisdom about people bringing up the topic is to just don't let them say anything at all so I guess that doesn't help.
room topic changed to The Bridge: General Arqade chat room, wherein adulthood is mandatory. [+mandatory] [-butts] [-context] [-fun] [jin-fanclub] [lazers] [lifehack] [murder]
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People marrying, people spawning, people houseowning, people being generally old, this room is starting to smell like fiscal responsibility and aftershave.
Luckily @Unionhawk is so committed at being his own self.
 
o/
Don't mind me, just being not any of those things
 
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Q: How can I legally purchase games for an arcade cabinet I'm making?

CalI'm building a custom arcade cabinet, which I'm thinking of putting in a local bar. I know to do this legally, I need to purchase the arcade games or maybe license them. All of the information I've found so far is only pointing towards the option of pirating the games (downloading them). Does any...

 
11:53 PM
@Unionhawk but that's what makes minding you so worthwile!
In fact I think I'll spend a few moments minding you.
 
@LessPop_MoreFizz Problem being, alerts are decided (not actually set in-game), but decided by the developers themselves. They are events that occur randomly but are set by the developers
 
Everything in a game is set by the developer, does that mean we stop covering all game mechanics?
I could see it if you somehow wanted to claim the in-game drop rate was wrong and you wanted to know what drop rate the developers actually wanted, as opposed to the one actually in effect.
When you're asking about how a game actually is and works, developer intent is only incidentally relevant
 

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