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8:00 PM
@Emrakul I don't care about philosophy so much as "the site has zero questions, let's fill it with good questions"
 
@jcolebrand good being an important word here
 
I'm only kinda lurking here, and I'm terribly confused about what's on-topic and what gets closed.
 
user61230
@jcolebrand Questions aren't closed, they're just put on hold until they can be improved.
 
@jcolebrand good seems like the operative word in that phrase
 
@Undo I'm goign crazy with new VtC powers
 
8:00 PM
@Undo gets closed = I've read it, on-topic = I haven't read it yet
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user61230
And if they can't be improved, they're closed automatically after five days.
 
@jcolebrand The path to "good questions" is not "throw out every question you can think of and demand that other people improve them"
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... okay then. Makes perfect sense @Gilles
 
user61230
I didn't see a good way to improve it, so I voted to put it on hold until someone else does. I hope that makes more sense now.
 
@Emrakul “on hold” means “closed since less than 5 days ago”
 
8:01 PM
@AirThomas Know where I'm pulling the questions I'm putting into the site are coming from? the highly upvoted Area51 questions.
 
user61230
@Gilles Eh... depends on how you look at it. The post where they made the change implied that they wanted to communicate on-holdiness as an interim state. At least that 's the way I read it.
 
Obviously people thought these were good questions before, I'm doing my best to flush them out appropriately
@Emrakul So improve them
@Gilles you're a keen offender of "this doesn't work for me, abolish it" vs editing
 
@jcolebrand I think there's a significant difference between an example question and a real one.
 
@Gilles and I'll gladly take this before the TL tribunal if you want to try to burn me down
@AirThomas I don't
I'm also TRYING TO GIVE CONTEXT to the questions to make them good
 
@Gilles Oh right, you're not actually blue. I... uh... it's chat's fault.
 
8:03 PM
What it looks like - though this may not be your intent - is plain and simple rep-whoring.
 
user61230
@jcolebrand You may wish to step back for a minute. Nobody's attacking you personally... breathe? :]
 
Keep in mind the message that went out in the beta launch email: "The first questions set the tone for the site. If you ask high quality, expert-level questions, you'll build a site that attracts the experts and pros who will make it really successful."
 
wow! 71 tasks in the close review queue
 
I am #1 :D
 
I'm also trying to make questions that are vague enough to be for all moderation
@Emrakul ehhh, they're attacking the site without trying to improve it on day 1
This isn't my first SE site launch
 
8:04 PM
@jcolebrand That's probably too broad for most questions
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Let the people who proposed those example questions ask them on the site. They may have had a more specific context in mind, and that can only improve the question.
 
user61230
I think putting questions on hold has a philosophically different meaning, and on this, we disagree. That's pretty much what this comes down to.
 
close voting on this site will be so fast, love it
 
@Mr.Alien it will during the first few weeks
 
8:05 PM
less than 2 mins
 
Different types of communities, different forms of communication, different number of people participating and even different subjects can all have vastly different answers to the same question.
 
@Emrakul on-hold means "will be closed" not "someone is going to edit this"
There's also a lack of guiding comments
 
@Braiam hence I posted ;)
 
@Mr.Alien yeah, that was blazingly fast
 
@jcolebrand yea, enthusiasm, but I think mods are generally active on their sites so this will be active (in a way)
 
8:06 PM
Wow, I hadn't even noticed how quickly that was.
 
:D
hehe, I got the word pussy in a post <-- general user visits this question and flags it right away as offensive
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@jcolebrand can you rephrase that in English?
 
i'm going to run out of stars in this chat
 
@Gilles You close too much, and edit too little.
 
@Mr.Alien I wonder... if you offensive flag something on a meta post, what happens to the rep penalty?
 
8:13 PM
@Pops ^?
 
@hichris123 nothing, your /tag score will drop down if your answer gets deleted
 
@MadaraUchiha thank you. Or in other words “you closed my question you suck you fascist”
 
@Mr.Alien if they did that without reading for context ... ugh
 
@Gilles That's not what I said :P
@Mr.Alien FLAG THE PUSSY!
wait
 
8:14 PM
@jcolebrand I get many flags on SO with those words ;) and most of them are posted in JS room
@MadaraUchiha ahaaha
 
@MadaraUchiha i'm giggling so much that coworkers are looking at me strangely
 
@MattGiltaji =P
 
@Mr.Alien well, to be fair, the average age of that room is like 14
or at least, the mental age ;-)
 
@jcolebrand Not really...
 
← asks “I'm a janitor and I keep getting flack for not turning all the crap into roses. How can I get other people to help me with the compost heap?”
 
8:15 PM
@jcolebrand Pretty accurate, yes.
 
@jcolebrand they just have fun, other users take those posts over seriously
 
The JS room is...
 
@Gilles the first step is to have all the compost in a head, and not just spread all over the house
 
really strange/weird/deranged.
 
@jcolebrand What most people don't seem to understand is that the regulars in the big 3 rooms (JS, PHP, L<CPP>) come there to unwind and relax
 
8:16 PM
@hichris123 I'm not going to comment on that.
 
Not to answer their little vampiric questions
 
the most serious room I've ever been to is PHP, and JS is quiet the opp
 
And so when presented with said little vampiric questions, they sometimes tell users to go away
 
yea that is common in every room
 
Also, there's the matter of someone saying "What the actual fuck" and that gets flagged so...
 
8:18 PM
@MadaraUchiha flags :P
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@hichris123 what happens when a chat post made by a moderator gets flagged and validated?
5 mins ago, by Madara Uchiha
user image
 
@MadaraUchiha Absolutely... nothing!
 
users on the site which I mod flags the posts as - @Mr. Alien, I think ... as if am the lone mod on that site
 
Yup, nothing at all
 
I... see what you did there. :P
I wonder what the max length of a chat-ban is... chat.stackexchange.com/users/120914/smokedetector :P
 
8:24 PM
Aaaand rep capped.
 
am actually confused between the two rooms now, i.e this one and the tl
 
> until May 24 '56
lol
@Mr.Alien Different favicon
 
@MadaraUchiha I'll pin the main
 
@MadaraUchiha It's longer than '56. (balpha forgot to think about bans which extend out of this century. :P)
It's 3241.82147 years from now.
 
@hichris123 thats what I called, a Visionary
 
8:27 PM
@Mr.Alien room topic changed to The Ban Hammer: General discussion for moderators.stackexchange.com. THIS IS NOT TL. (no tags)
;)
 
@hichris123 So '56 means 4256? :P
 
@Undo dude, "Student Lounge"?
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@MadaraUchiha I guess. :P
 
Behind the Gym?
 
heh
 
8:27 PM
@jcolebrand Inside the dumpster?
 
hehe, I do like that
@MadaraUchiha why the heck would you smoke inside the dumpster?
 
@Undo sweet :p
 
Sorry @Undo I'm playing with/mod abusing your sock. :P
 
At least my foot isn't in it.
 
@jcolebrand I wouldn't know what you youngsters do in a dumpster, when I was at that age, I had to fight against entire clans on my own.
 
8:29 PM
@MadaraUchiha what the... why if I click that reply I'm taken to the transcript?
 
@Braiam Refresh
Your browser missed the message.
 
8:42 PM
nice weather, heavy rains, time to sleep ... 2 up already
night ~
 
it seems I am one hour late ;)
 
Aaaaand my voting limit's reached too
I believe I am done for today :)
 
lol
> My site focuses on the controversial topic of hard-boiled-egg-breaking. Most of my users are from the hit-round-ends school, but a few are from the hit-pointy-ends school.
 
@hichris123 I saw that :P
Wait... why do people have over 300 rep? I thought you could only get 200 since it's the association bonus + 200 limit... is that waived on private betas?
 
@AnnonomusPenguin I capped at 305 for some reason
@AnnonomusPenguin Also, accepts?
 
8:49 PM
ratio ♦ vs non-♦: 20/14
@AnnonomusPenguin accepts
 
@Braiam The year!
 
@AnnonomusPenguin accepted answers + association bonus
 
Ohh, accepts don't count? Never knew that.
 
@AnnonomusPenguin O_O
 
@AnnonomusPenguin O_O
 
8:51 PM
wat
 
@AnnonomusPenguin I think you just got voted off the mod island.
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Please return the diamond and wash the blue off your name.
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Walks shamefully
 
God, I'm gonna run out of stars
 
Also, why does a user have their association bonus count towards their weekly total? Mine doesn't...
 
8:52 PM
@AnnonomusPenguin I know, mine doesn't either
Neither for weekly or monthly :o
 
@MadaraUchiha Glitch?
 
@AnnonomusPenguin neither does the association bonus.
 
@hichris123 BROWSERS!
 
@hichris123 I know that, but look at this user in the rep leagues... it says he got 315 this week:
 
@MadaraUchiha huh wha?
@AnnonomusPenguin [status-on-meta-somewhere]
 
8:53 PM
 
@MadaraUchiha I love that comic!
 
@MadaraUchiha Chrome has crappy grammar skills there...
 
I laugh wayyyy to much every time I see it :D
@AnnonomusPenguin Every time someone has a slow awakening at the office we yell at him "BROWSERS!"
 
@jippie As I said, the association bonus isn't included (on purpose) in the views that aren't "all". — Anna Lear ♦ Feb 26 at 22:09
... who knows.
 
@MadaraUchiha lol
Also, the "moderator" tab on the users page might be misleading :P
 
8:57 PM
user image
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@MadaraUchiha And the best part is it overlaps :P
 
@MadaraUchiha LOL
 
@MadaraUchiha flags
 
@Jamal Making work for another mod on a mod site? :D
 
9:00 PM
@Malachi She probably won't get the ping since she was never in the room
 
@Jamal At least you're not @Seth, who bans people because of a misclick. :P
 
@hichris123 Now I'm curious
 
@hichris123 lol
 
in Ask Ubuntu General Room, Mar 18 at 15:20, by Seth
I flagged Braiam's message as spam on accident, and some silly users approved it.
in Ask Ubuntu General Room, Mar 18 at 15:20, by jokerdino
Actually, that flag was autoapproved because you flagged it.
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As usual, I come up with a comeback ten minutes after the joke...
 
9:03 PM
@hichris123 lol
Owned
 
Oh crap, I got a star! New badge!
 
Also this:
in Ask Ubuntu General Room, Mar 18 at 15:26, by jokerdino
I am guessing Seth took foss' "sending Braiam to /dev/null" too seriously.
 
I love the traffic you can get on new betas. Earning rep is really easy compared to SO....
Although it's hard to find questions on SO to answer...
 
@AnnonomusPenguin answer regex questions... a guy on AU got 1k in just a week
 
@Braiam hmm... will do.
 
9:13 PM
we need a bot that inform us the ♦/non-♦ ratio...
seems useful D:
 
@Braiam If you build it I'll run it on my Pi
 
room topic changed to ♦ The Ban Hammer: General discussion for moderators.stackexchange.com. THIS IS NOT TL. (no tags)
Huh, that does work.
 
I haven't seen Doorknob in a while...
 
@doorknob! Your presence seems to be required!
I haven't superpinged someone in a long time :P
I... hope I got the right Doorknob
 
@Undo there's more than one?
 
9:20 PM
@Braiam stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/regex there isn't a high volume of them :(
@hichris123 no
 
@AnnonomusPenguin He probably just wants to sign-up fashionably late. rolls eyes
 
ah, floods of private beta rep are always nice.
 
@Jamal The issue is it'd look suspicious if he rang the doorbell to have someone answer the door to get attention...
And he has to be there before the party starts :)
 
wow this seems like a familiar crowd mostly!
 
@AnnonomusPenguin And this was quite some party. Who got drunk already?
 
9:31 PM
@Jamal I don't know. I wasn't with the crowd for most of the night because... ya' know: I'm a penguin.
 
OMG a talking penguin!!!
 
@Jamal Shh! Don't leak my secret! FYI I'm a cousin of Tux...
But I don't wear tuxedos everywhere like he does :P
 
speaks in Parseltongue or whatever variation it is for penguins
 
wow, no answer above 8?
 
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A: Should I do anything to protect, or even privilege, minority opinions on my site?

Matt GiltajiIf voting seems to be the point of contention, perhaps you can steer the discussion away from voting and into other areas of the site. You also mentioned that both sides have been contributing constructively so far, and that the trouble hasn't expanded beyond voting and some grumbling, so I would...

feedback please
 
9:36 PM
@Jamal It's called Pengtonge, duh! :-)
Only 2.5 hours until rep cap resets!
 
HOW DO WE DEAL WITH USERS THAT HIT THE REP CAP TOO MUCH
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A. DESTROY
B. DESTROY
C. DESTROY
D. SEND A MESSAGE THEN DESTROY
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E. SEND SWAG
 
@badp All of the above. In order.
 
@Jamal THEN DESTROY
@Pops Good
 
@badp explosive swag?
 
9:38 PM
@badp DESTROY FIRST
 
@Jamal but then we have no data for swag sending purposes
 
That's the point. :P
 
@badp THIS IS TOO HARD! MUST ASK QUESTION ON Stack Overflow ASKING WHAT THE CORRECT ANSWER IS!
 
Or, if site = Meta Stack Exchange, poach for Community Team.
 
@Pops lolwut
 
9:40 PM
That's what happens if you hit the rep cap too much on Meta Stack Exchange: you get a job.
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@MattGiltaji That's mean!
Naturally, I like it!
@Pops You mean if site == Meta_Stack_Exchange?
@Pops Good to know.
 
I can just picture that on the job application sheet @Pops
 
@Pops Would one get a janitorial job for flagging enough spam on MSE?
 
@Jamal Mod == janitor and CM is just an elevated mod, so yes.
 
9:44 PM
@Jamal Remember, Pops works with the Indian Hacker Team. So if you can create enough spam...
 
@hichris123 <whisper>He's in this room right now</whisper>
 
Anyone opposed to me taking out the diamond from the name? It's too close to the diamond put there on private rooms and it may cause a data breach... D:
 
room topic changed to The Ban Hammer ♦ : General discussion for moderators.stackexchange.com. THIS IS NOT TL. (no tags)
 
@AnnonomusPenguin strongly agree
 
Fixed it!
 
9:47 PM
@AnnonomusPenguin please give it to me if you're going to throw it out
 
room topic changed to The Ban Hammer ♦: General discussion for moderators.stackexchange.com. THIS IS NOT TL. (no tags)
 
Remove it from the name altogether. It's confusing in any position, and it hints that this room is related to SE moderation which is emphatically not the case.
 
> 0 questions with no answers
 
room topic changed to The Ban Hammer: General discussion for moderators.stackexchange.com. THIS IS NOT TL. (no tags)
 
^ needs fix
 
9:48 PM
Done, @Gilles.
 
Wait... since when did the room not refresh to change that?
I thought you had to refresh... :/
 
... since always?
 
@AnnonomusPenguin only the room topic
 
@Braiam ahh...
@hichris123 Give me a break. I've been voted off this island enough times during this UTC day...
:)
 
@AnnonomusPenguin votes back on the island
 
9:50 PM
We just don't like penguins. Nothing personal.
 
:(
And I didn't ask to be given the ability to speak Pengtongue. I got a scar in the shape of a... lightning rod.
 
@Jamal FTFY
@Jamal No, that's Harry Potter. It was [the shape of] a mod hammer on your head.
 
I have two, actually.
 
@AnnonomusPenguin ftfy
 
9:52 PM
@Jamal You're HP?
 
Hammer Potter? Yep, that's me.
 
@Jamal you can't touch this
 
Ha
Okay, who invited Doorknob?
I mean... hi!
 

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