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3:40 AM
Given $H\le G$ groups and representations $V\in{\rm Rep}(H)$, $W\in{\rm Rep}(G)$, using the Frobenius formula one can observe $({\rm Ind}_H^GV)\otimes W$ and ${\rm Ind}_H^G(V\otimes {\rm Res}_H^GW)$ have the same characters, hence they are the same representations. However I can't "see" why they are the same. The elements look the same - sums of $g\otimes v\otimes w$s, but $G$ doesn't act the same on them: for $f\in G$, we have
$$f(g\otimes v\otimes w)=fg\otimes v\otimes fw\quad {\rm versus}\quad f(g\otimes v\otimes w)=fg\otimes v\otimes w.$$ The redundancies in these symbols are also different: $$gh\otimes v\otimes w=g\otimes hv\otimes w \quad {\rm versus} \quad gh\otimes v\otimes w=g\otimes hv\otimes hw.$$ So $g\otimes v\otimes w\mapsto g\otimes v\otimes w$ cannot be the isomorphism $({\rm Ind}_H^GV)\otimes W\cong {\rm Ind}_H^G(V\otimes{\rm Res}_H^GW)$, which I assume is natural. So what is?
 
3:52 AM
4 hours of silence. It's a quiet night.
 
r9m
@robjohn Good Morning ! ;)
 
@r9m It is 9 PM here, but good morning :-)
 
r9m
@robjohn ya ... :-) Its 9:26 am here .. so :) .. have you seen my new limit Q that I posted in chat ? :)
 
@r9m so you're in one of those +30 minute timezones...
@r9m No, I will have to look.
 
r9m
@robjohn ya
@robjohn $\lim\limits_{n \to \infty} \dfrac{1}{\log n}\sum\limits_{k=1}^{n}\dfrac{1}{k}\tan\dfrac{\pi k}{2n+1}$ :-)
 
4:09 AM
@r9m It's not a simple Riemann Sum, but it might be massaged a bit.
 
r9m
4:20 AM
@robjohn It is related to a wonderful integral :D .. I pummeled this form out of one of chinamath's questions :D
 
It wold seem to be $$\int_0^1\frac{\tan\left(\frac\pi2x\right)}{x}\,\mathrm{d}x$$ except there is some problem at $x=1$
 
r9m
yes .. :) but that Reimann sum shouldn't converge :)
 
@r9m That is why I mentioned the problem at $x=1$. That is where the log comes in
 
r9m
@robjohn indeed :-)
 
4:44 AM
@r9m From a rough pass, I seem to be getting $\frac2\pi$
 
r9m
@robjohn oh ... that is right !! .. how did you estimate it ? :D
 
@r9m Well, I know that if we use $\tan\left(\frac\pi2x\right)-\frac{2x}{\pi(1-x)}$ in place of the $\tan\left(\frac\pi2x\right)$ above, the integral converges...
@r9m this means that we can replace $\tan\left(\frac\pi2x\right)$ by $\frac{2x}{\pi(1-x)}$
@r9m This means your limit should be the same as $$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac1{\log(n)}\frac2\pi\sum_{k=1}^n\frac{2n+1}{(2n+1-k)k}$$
 
r9m
@robjohn oh ... this is fantastic !!!! :D
 
which is $$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac1{\log(n)}\frac2\pi\sum_{k=1}^n\left(\frac1k+\frac1{2n+1‌​-k}\right)$$
and that is $$\lim_{n\to\infty}\frac2\pi\frac{\log(2n)+\gamma+O(1/n)}{\log(n)}$$
 
r9m
@robjohn Awesome !!!! :D
 
4:59 AM
@r9m Integrals that blow up can be fun :-)
 
r9m
@robjohn this is an incredibe answer ... my solution is long and twisted :|
@robjohn You just blew my brain :D
@robjohn this is a version 2 : $$\displaystyle \lim_{n\to\infty} \left(\sum\limits_{k=1}^{n}\dfrac{1}{k}\tan\dfrac{\pi k}{2n+1} – \frac{2}{\pi} \log n\right) = \frac{2}{\pi} \log\frac{4}{\pi} – \int_0^1 \sin(\pi x)\psi(x) \,dx$$
 
@r9m Ah, no more relying on the explosion of the integral :-)
@r9m is $\psi$ the digamma function?
 
r9m
@robjohn yes :-)
@robjohn the RHS can be made into .. $$\frac{{6\ln 2}}{\pi } + \frac{{2\gamma }}{\pi } + \frac{2}{\pi }\sum\limits_{k = 1}^\infty {\frac{1}{{2k + 1}}\ln \left( {1 + \frac{1}{k}} \right)}$$
 
@r9m I wonder if we can use summation by parts to evaluate the sum since $\log\left(1+\frac1k\right)=\log(k+1)-\log(k)$
 
r9m
@robjohn maybe .. I haven't worked that part out yet :-) .. it relies on Kummer's Expansion of $\log \Gamma(x)$ for $0 < x < 1$ :-)
 
5:15 AM
@r9m what relies on that?
 
r9m
$$\log\Gamma(x) = \frac12\log\frac{\pi}{\sin(\pi x)} + (\gamma + \log(2\pi))(\frac12 - x) + \frac{1}{\pi}\sum_{k=2}^{\infty}\frac{\log k}{k}\sin(2\pi k x)$$
by parts we have $$\int_0^1 \sin(\pi x)\psi(x) dx = \int_0^1 \sin(\pi x)\,d\log\Gamma(x) =
-\pi\int_0^1 \cos(\pi x)\log\Gamma(x) dx$$
 
@r9m that all looks too compllcated to follow...
 
r9m
@robjohn that was the cannon Achillehui used in an answer :) ..
 
@r9m I will accept that only if it simplifies the proof greatly over any other method.
 
r9m
@robjohn agreed :-) .. but I haven't been able to come up with alternative solutions :-)
 
5:26 AM
$$\lim_{n\to\infty}\sum\limits_{k=1}^{n}\frac1k\left[\tan\left(\frac{\pi k}{2n+1}\right)-\frac2\pi\frac{k}{n+1-k}\right]+\frac{2\gamma}{\pi}$$
 
r9m
5:47 AM
@robjohn I had $$\sum\limits_{k=1}^{n}\dfrac{1}{k}\tan\dfrac{\pi k}{2n+1} = \dfrac{2}{\pi} \log\dfrac{4}{\pi} + \int_0^{\pi n} \frac{|\sin x|}{x} dx + O\left(\frac{1}{n}\right)$$
 
@r9m How did you get that?
 
r9m
oh ! ,, you are the mod ! you can see deleted messages too ! :D
 
@r9m I need "render MathJax" to read that page.
@r9m The MathJax does not automatically get rendered
 
r9m
@robjohn ya .. I'm using your Latex in chat :) .. how to make the render automatic ?
 
@r9m I use "render MathJax" on static pages
 
r9m
5:56 AM
@robjohn Thank you ! ^_^
 
@r9m why do you want it deleted?
 
r9m
@robjohn I'm still not sure how I'm going to use that blog .. I'll put the link it in my profile later on :-)
 
 
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7:06 AM
Greetings
@robjohn have you ever meet this one? $$\int_0^1 \arctan(x) \log(1+x) \ dx$$
 
7:25 AM
@robjohn it's related to some known integrals, some easier, some harder.
 
@Chris'ssis I don't remember... I don't have the result off the top of my head.
@Chris'ssis: I am working on these
$$
\sum_{n=0}^j(-1)^{j-n}\binom{2k+1}{j-n}\binom{n+k}{k}^2=\binom{k}{j}^2
$$
$$
\sum_{n=j+k}^{2k}(-1)^n\binom{2k+1}{n+1}\binom{n-j}{k}^2=\binom{k}{j}^2
$$
 
@robjohn OK
 
If I can show one, I can show them both
 
7:44 AM
@Chris'ssis The substitution $x=\frac{1-u}{1+u}$ should be useful there
$\arctan\left(\frac{1-u}{1+u}\right)=\frac\pi4-\arctan(u)$
$\log\left(1+\frac{1-u}{1+u}\right)=\log(2)-\log(1+u)$
$\mathrm{d}\frac{1-u}{1+u}=\frac{-2\,\mathrm{d}u}{(1+u)^2}$
This might be more useful for $\int_0^1\arctan(x)\log(1+x)\frac{\mathrm{d}x}{1+x}$
 
@robjohn True.
 
8:11 AM
I wonder if $\arctan(x)=\frac i2\log\left(\frac{1-ix}{1+ix}\right)$ might help
 
 
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9:41 AM
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Q: Question on Moment of inertia about center of mass of a smooth plane curve.

Rajesh DThis question is in continuation to this and motivated to answer this question. If I have an answer to it, then I can prove a special case of this question. Consider two smooth plane curves $C \equiv (X_C(s),Y_C(s))$ and $S \equiv (X_S(s),Y_S(s))$ represented in arc length parametrization. Curve...

 
 
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10:58 AM
OEIS is great. OEIS is great. OEIS is great. OEIS is great. OEIS is great. OEIS is great. OEIS is great. OEIS is great. OEIS is great...
 
11:52 AM
@Mats: I have yet to find it useful.
But I'm pretty sure one day I will.
 
@Nick I think in combination with the inverse symbolic calculator it is quite useful. The latter needs more constants though.
 
All this stuff looks like it was made in the 1990's
 
Yes the looks, design and layout is not the best.

There should be government funding for the oeis and the inverse symbolic calculator.
Neil Sloane who runs the site is turning 75 year this year it says.
 
Mats: I'll be writing to the U.N. about that. Is there anything you'd like mentioned?
@skullpatrol: Hiya skull!
 
@Nick You do that, mention one of my sequences and I will be happy.
 
11:59 AM
@Nick Yo, what's up pal :-)
 
@Mats: ... Apologies but .. I think I may have forgotten or have not been informed of what your sequences were.
@skullpatrol: By convention, up is the direction denoted by the the vector $j$
 
@Nick Never mind, but the DirichletInverseOfTheEulerTotient(GCD(n,k)) matrix is my favourite.
 
@Nick ;D
 
Is it trivial or even true that (the number of divisors of n)/n = 0?
as n goes to infinity?
 
Definitely
 
12:03 PM
@Nick How do you know?
 
... Unless, you count 1 as a divisor.
 
excluding 1
 
Then, my gut says it could be true.
Never trust my gut.
It has failed me on many levels.
Nope, can't prove it.
@Mats: So, what's the answer?
@skull: How the heck does one prove stuff like that anyway?
 
@Nick I just have a relationship between two tables defined by almost the same recurrence and in the limit the ratio between the row sums becomes zero when the recurrence gives the number of divisors of n and n respeectively. Therefore the limit equal zero.
 
@Mats: Well it felt kinda like a race. The numerator is slower. The denominator is faster and so infinity won. it's hard to argue with my logic.
 
12:08 PM
@Nick ok
 
@Nick You can not prove why something is used as a convention.
 
@skullpatrol: I can't even prove that the sky is blue. According to my math, it should have been violet.
 
Conventions are used for convenience.
 
@Nick I think we have some common issues here regarding mathematics, you and me. I don't really know any proofs either, if that is what you mean.
Never mind, I am being silly.
 
@Mats: Well, you have enough time and free will to do all that. I'm stuck in school doing silly things like proving relations are transitive, symmetric and reflexive.
 
12:13 PM
I am on vacation.
 
@skullpatrol: Do you have any advice on studying
 
Start from the beginning and don't rush.
 
Well, in the beginning there was a bang.
 
What came before the big bang?
 
But my issue is with the present day, so lets start from there
 
12:16 PM
@Nick Have you tried writing your own book of the subject you are studying?
 
@skullpatrol: I think the pig bang is like the 0 on the number line. Maybe a universe where time went backward
@Mats: Sure there are books on topics to study but I have yet to physically find one about studying
 
Each topic requires a different sort of studying.
 
@skullpatrol: Ok, I got this math exam (pretty simple level) on the day after tomorrow. Easy topics but it takes time to do.
Relations and Functions
Inverse Trigonometry
Matrices
Determinants
That's like so damn easy to do.
It's just I have this anxiety thing
This is like the first part of the biggest exam I have to write in my whole freaking life.
 
Studying is easy, you should just exclude the words in the text, and focus on relationships between what could be considered as nouns. But it takes time and effort.
 
Anxiety comes from fear. Are you afraid that you do not understand the material?
 
12:21 PM
@Mats: I am putting that in.
 
This is a summary of my note taking symbols in chemical engineering.
2
Q: What is the conventional notation for these logic statements?

Mats GranvikWhen I studied chemical engineering I often found the need to rewrite lecture notes, handouts and books in order to gain a thorough understanding of the subject I was reading. As much as time permitted I used to draw mindmaps of the reading material combining the symbols on the left in the image ...

 
@skullpatrol: No, for like the first time in my academical life, I have absolute understanding of the topics to a degree none of my peers nor teachers ever will acquire.
And that's whats putting pressure on me.
If I dare to commit even the slightest blunder in the 3 hours of my test...
I would literally break down
 
If you know it that well; reciting the important parts will take your mind off anxiety.
 
@skullpatrol: How does one recite math? (It's so funny to think about)
(2B) OR (NOT 2B ). That is the question. Nope, it's a tautology.
 
The same way a poet recites poetry; in fact math is the poetry of logical ideas.
 
12:28 PM
Well, my main objective is to do as many questions from previous year versions of the paper I'm going to be writing.
 
Whatever works for you, pal :-)
 
I think the source of my anxiety comes from the fact that I'm poor at managing my time, energy and attention.
If I feel I'm doing that, then I think I really have a shot at that golden 100%
@Mats: Your notations are awesome. You've really inspired me to make my own
 
99.99% is ok
 
@Nick Thanks.
 
@skullpatrol: Marks are integral.
 
12:33 PM
always will be
 
Well, this like my cue to get up from this chair.
Any last words before I commit to the longest and most strenuous study session ever.
 
good luck :-)
 
Thank you. (:D)
Nick leaps off of his dads computer and on his study table begins to prepare for a lifechanging test. da da daaa.
 
@Nick I think the adjective is academic.
 
1:02 PM
@Nick I said a bit too much when I said "studying is easy". It was not until my last year that I became a decent student. And heat transfer was my worst subject, could never really master how to translate a heat transfer problem into an integral. Of course it could have something to do with that I did not attend the lectures in that subject.
What is a value called that is just before the limit of a function?
Confusing. I mean what is the value called that appears just before a singularity? That is what I meant.
When taking the limit.
 
a proportionality constant?
 
@skullpatrol yes it is constant.
 
then call it: what it is :-)
 
@skullpatrol The calculation suggests that the sum of the divisors divided by the odd numbers is 1/2. But that is where it blows up, so no solid justification.
 
1:39 PM
Did you like the world cup gif @DanielFischer?
 
@skullpatrol The wrong colours won.
 
Orly?
they have come so close, many times...
 
they all end up playing there^ anyway
not that I follow the sport
 
More of a Cricket man?
 
1:46 PM
nah, americain football or rugby
 
Union or League?
 
League
National Footbal League
NFL
 
Ah, Rugby Union or Rugby League was the question. Two different games, though closely related.
 
dunno enough about it
aussie rules looks tough
 
Yeah, the Aussies are tough, whatever they do. Must be the vegemite.
 
1:54 PM
:D
 
Just so the Mathematics chat denizens are aware, I have just added three answers to the (homework) tag should be deprecated meta-question so that users can unambiguously vote on their preferred option in this matter.
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@ArthurFischer the denizens thank you for sharing :-)
 
2:38 PM
Hello,can you see this problem:?math.stackexchange.com/questions/871779/…
 
yep
 
2:59 PM
Hello all
 
hi
 
@MatsGranvik For $\lim\limits_{n\to\infty} \frac{\text{the number of divisors of n}}{n}$, you can use this results to find it.
 
HELL
hello
please
is there a function g(x) such that
$|\arctan x|\leq g(x)$ ?
 
3:16 PM
@Vrouvrou $g(x)=|\arctan x|+1$ :P
 
no not this
 
So which type of functions you're searching for?
 
something like $\alpha |u|+\beta$
 
 
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4:21 PM
Anyone on?
 
It was busy there for a while
 
where?
 
@skullpatrol here, a couple of hours ago
 
4:38 PM
anyone want to help with a regularization question?
 
 
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5:46 PM
This chat is dead.
 
5:57 PM
@Vrouvrou Your question is too vague and hence unanswerable.
 
6:46 PM
@Chris'ssis You say that every day =)
 
@JasperLoy Do I? =)
 
@Chris'ssis I think so, no need to delete.
 
@JasperLoy I deleted it by mistake.
:D
I'm out for some jogging. bbl
 
7:24 PM
Can anybody help me with a set theory question?
 
can anyone help me with this question?
Prove that the sets $S$ and $D$ have the same cardinality, where $S = \{(x,y)\mid-1\leq x \leq 1\text{ and }-1\leq y\leq 1\}$ and $D = \{(x,y)\mid x^2 + y^2 \leq 1\}$.
 
What I'm doing aligns with the answer but I wanted to know if it's mathematically defined/correct.
 
@Shisui Isn't that just empty?
 
@JasperLoy Sorry, what I meant was the intersection of:
$x \in \left[ -1, 1 \right]$ and $x \in \left[ -\infty, -1 \right] \cup \left[ 1, +\infty \right]$
 
@Shisui Isn't that just $\{-1,1\}$?
 
7:35 PM
Yep!
 
It is obvious, QED.
 
I wanted to know if there was some sort of distributive property for the intersection of sets.
 
There is no need to apply De Morgan laws.
 
De Morgan laws?
Is that the official name?
 
You can do a google.
 
7:37 PM
I want to know more about set theory as it seems pretty useful!
@MichaelHampton Thank you!
 
@Shisui Wrong person.
 
Really?
I asked if somebody could delete a few of my prior posts.
I wasn't quoting you, @JasperLoy!
 
@Shisui Oh OK.
 
=D
I'll search it up!
 
It makes no sense because opposite doesn't mean anything.
 
7:40 PM
Just noticed!
It's getting late where I am and I'm tired!
 
Is this your Chinese name?
 
7:54 PM
@Nick 2B is a pencil.
 
8:18 PM
@Chris'ssis How is your jogging?
 
8:31 PM
@DanielFischer If I may ask, what are you suffering from?
 
Any moderators around? We have an emergency.
 
@Potato Yes, @robjohn is here.
 
@robjohn Hey, are you around?
 
@Potato If I said "no", would you believe me?
 
@robjohn this, requires probably community manager or dev intervention, too.
 
8:33 PM
It looks like someone just took care of it, but a new user posted porn in response to a question here:math.stackexchange.com/questions/872015/…
 
To hard-delete the stuff.
 
My link is the same as Daniel's.
 
@DanielFischer I agree
 
@DanielFischer Unfortunately I cannot see anything there.
 
No, fortunately you cannot see anything there.
 
8:35 PM
@JasperLoy If you're interested in hard-core pornography, there are enough sites on the internet, some even for free.
 
@DanielFischer I know, I am an expert in this area.
@robjohn I thought that the comma always comes before the end quote mark in American English, lol.
 
@JasperLoy It may be in some key reference, but I know it is used differently in some cases.
@JasperLoy In some cases, a different meaning can be conveyed by the placement of the comma. I see no reason to impede that.
 
@robjohn That convention I told you is more typographical than logical.
 
@JasperLoy It was obviously created by a blind typographer.
@robjohn Have you pinged somebody with hard-deletion powers?
 
@JasperLoy Nope. It's the name of a Naruto character. Uchiha Shisui, the wielder of the Mangekyō Sharingan ability, Kotoamatsukami!
 
8:50 PM
@Shisui Ah, actually shi sui in Chinese can mean "ten years old".
 
@JasperLoy Interesting! It's a Japanese manga so I doubt there'd be much Chinese influence. Are you Chinese?
 
@Shisui I am by race, not nationality.
 
I just noticed that I got 2 upvotes in a comment on MO. That's like, getting praise from the god himself.
=P
 
@BalarkaSen It's just a comment, no big deal. =)
 
@JasperLoy MO
Not MSE.
 
8:52 PM
@BalarkaSen Yes. =)
 
@BalarkaSen What's MO?
@JasperLoy That's pretty cool!
 
MathOverflow.
 
90 per cent of research is trivial anyway.
 
@JasperLoy You sound like a physicist.
 
@BalarkaSen I am quoting a professor of mine.
 
8:53 PM
@JasperLoy Who's a physicist?
 
@Shisui No, math.
 
What branch?
 
He does harmonic analysis.
 
@Shisui So, are you reading about Leibniz notation?
 
@BalarkaSen I've decided to go back to the basics and have read the first few chapters of Spivak's calculus!
 
8:58 PM
@Shisui Well. OK.
 
I mean, I've yet to start undergrad, so I don't want to be flimsy on anything beforehand.
@BalarkaSen You sound disappointed.
 
I am just a bit ignorant about Spivak.
 
@Shisui Well done. After that read Calculus on Manifolds.
 
@JasperLoy STAHP.
 
@BalarkaSen Why's that the case?
@JasperLoy I was thinking of reading Apostol's Analysis whilst I'm at university next year.
 
8:59 PM
@Shisui Just that I've learned calc from much more better and smoother books than Spivak.
 
@Shisui Which uni are you going to?
@Shisui Good for you. It seems a nice place to live.
I live in a terrible place.
 
@JasperLoy You do?
 
@Shisui Yes, I live in a terrible place.
 
@Shisui NT NT NT. Do some NT or I'll grumble at you.
 
@BalarkaSen New Testament.
 
9:01 PM
Number Theory, man.
 
@DanielFischer I did, but no response yet. We've edited so that things are not so obvious.
 
@BalarkaSen All in good time!
 
@Shisui Just a fact : Elementary NT doesn't need calculus.
It's just a revision of your arithmetic, which is good.
 
@BalarkaSen It only requires a calculator, lol.
 
@robjohn I can see that. I just asked because otherwise I'd have tried to lure Anna or Grace Note or somebody here.
 
9:03 PM
@JasperLoy Calculi hurts.
 
@BalarkaSen Got any good places to learn it from? That'll be next on my list after I tackle Spivak.
Spivak's actually the first book I've read in years.
 
@Shisui Hmm. You may try first few chapters of Niven-Zuckerman-Montgomery
 
Is it this?
http://editorialdinosaurio.files.wordpress.com/2012/03/itn-niven.pdf
 
Is the title An Introduction To The Theory Of Numbers?
 
@BalarkaSen It is.
 
9:10 PM
Number theory is very boring for me.
 
@Shisui Then that's the book.
@JasperLoy Have you ever tried to read it seriously?
 
@BalarkaSen Nope.
 
You can't possible feel that a subject is boring without studying it.
 
I think newbies should take a look at what the library offers rather than ask for book recommendations.
 
@JasperLoy Which library?
 
9:12 PM
@Shisui When you go to college, the library there.
 
@JasperLoy I somewhat agree. Which book you'll like or not depends on your taste.
I, personally, didn't like NZM very much.
 
@BalarkaSen You talk like a 41 year old, lol.
It is very interesting to see that my enemy seems to have nothing to do except answer lhf on this site.
I am very sad that I went mad. Life would be so different if I did not go mad.
Now, I have no more life, I would rather die.
@blue Is it true that US universities usually have a Calculus 1,2,3 sequence?
 
@Shisui Are you familiar with modular arithmetic?
 
9:37 PM
@BalarkaSen I've only heard of it a few times.
 
@Shisui You should learn it from NZM. Very fun thing.
 
It's got to do with remainders, right?
 
It's just divisibility, you see.
 
Nice!
 
@Shisui Yes.
We call $a \sim b$ if $n | (a - b)$
 
9:40 PM
What does the tilde mean?
Is it 'congruent to'?
 
something similar to $=$. A relation.
@Shisui Yes.
 
(Bear in mind that I have no idea what it means. I've just heard the term before.)
 
@Shisui Try looking at NZM for the defs.
 
Will do!
 
@BalarkaSen Did you understand the divisibility recurrence I showed you yesterday?
 
9:43 PM
@Shisui Great. You'll see how much $\sim$ mimics our well-known $=$.
 
It works for complex numbers also.
 
@MatsGranvik Superficially. The recurrence feels pretty made-up to me.
 
@BalarkaSen I would not say it is made up. It relates nicely to the zeta function and a q factorials, and the Pascal triangle.
Or not exactly to the zeta function.
 
I don't see any motivation =)
 
@BalarkaSen How about a heuristic proof of the prime number theorem?
 
9:46 PM
@MatsGranvik Heuristic proof?
Like?
 
Yes, if you let the recurrence run in cross directions.
Like a cross word.
 
I'd be glad to look at what you have if you can have a better terminology to state stuffs.
Mostly, it's the terminologies of yours that I don't get.
 
@BalarkaSen Do you know how to program the Pascal triangle through recurrence?
 
No I don't know any programming stuffs whatsoever in mathematica.
Sorry.
 
Ok, but do you understand the recurrence that gives the Binomial Coefficients?
 
9:49 PM
@MatsGranvik Yes.
 
@BalarkaSen Which one?
 
Depends on which one you are referring to.
There are a hell lot of reccurences for binomial coefs.
 
@BalarkaSen Ok, The recurrence that uses only the numbers in the previous column.
We won't get any further on this subject I feel.
 
Are you referring to $$\binom{n}{k} + \binom{n}{k+1} = \binom{n+1}{k+1}$$?
@MatsGranvik If you have more understandable terminologies then I have no reason not to discuss about what you have found.
 
No, not really but that you can relate to the LambertW function.
 
9:53 PM
@MatsGranvik How does Lambert logs get into play here?
If this is not the (classical) recurrence you are referring to then which one? Can you write it up in latex?
 
If you multiply by k and look at the position of the largest term in the triangle, then the index will have a asymptotic given by the LambertW function.
 
@MatsGranvik Sorry, I can't visualize binomial coefs as elts of the Pascal triangles. I almost always think of it either algebraically or combinatorially.
 
@BalarkaSen ok. I am all about recurrences. But wait let me program a little, and I will show you in Latex.
 
I hate recurrences.
 
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