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1:13 AM
For some reason, the CSS is completely missing from ONLY this chat room... Fucking Mac!
If after clearing cache on Firefox, it still doesn't fix it... What more should I look into?
 
Bob
so, apparently return point.equals(this.pointA) ? this.pointB : this.pointA; isn't clear because it's using a ternary instead of a "proper control structure".
...
 
@Bob professor?
 
Bob
@allquixotic student tutor
the only reason I'm going through this course is for the degree anyway :\
At the very least, they aren't anal about only a single return. That would be painful:
Point otherEndpoint = null;
if (point.equals(this.pointA)) {
    otherEndpoint = this.pointB;
} else {
    otherEndpoint = this.pointA;
}
return otherEndpoint;
I wouldn't consider that one more readable at all.
 
1:43 AM
@Bob: For undergrad level? Easier to mark if everyone submits vaguely the same thing ;p
 
@CanadianLuke Tried that overly complicated command to clear the DNS?
 
In about:config?
 
No, in Terminal.
 
Nope!
 
1:53 AM
NO change :(
 
@jokerdino Whenever you are ready! Qt-creator is alive and kicking !
 
@CanadianLuke :/
 
I'll draw up the base UI by noon today and then we will tweak it until it's what we want.
 
Are "What is inside my monitor?" questions on-topic for SU?
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Q: What's inside a computer monitor and how does the displaying of information actually work?

RobertIf I we're to lay out the pieces of a LCD LED monitor what would I get? I plan on buying the cheapest one to take apart, but I'd rather know in advance. What I believe to know in order the data is transferred through parts including the source (correct me if I'm wrong): (a) computer video port ...

 
2:18 AM
Feel free to VTC it ;p
Its marginal, but I don't really feel like close-hammering it in my condition
 
I flagged it as 'too broad'. What he wants as an answer would be too long.
 
Bob
Currently trying the 8.1 update again, and I'm this close to a laptop flying out the window.
 
also, lack of research. And he's being stupid ;p
Panel, inverter CRT LED models, control board, great big board for everything ;p
"Converts the signal to illuminate the panel"
!!no
 
unless its OLED
 
Bob
2:24 AM
@JourneymanGeek Never seen you use that before :P
 
@Bob: I've used it before ;p
ugh, why does my switch not have screw mounts
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Which one?
 
I can't remember
 
Bob
-_-
 
@Bob Sounds like fun!
 
Bob
@MichaelFrank So much rage.
Currently uninstalling VS2013.
Why? Hell if I know!
Then there's this fucking joker: answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/…
> I got my problem with this solved. Had to uninstall a couple of programs that were interfering with the upgrade process.

After that, it worked fine.
Yes? What exactly did you do? What did you uninstall?
Fucking arsehole.
 
Imagine if a CPU manufacturer trying to sell faster processors owned an antivirus firm whose products require a faster processor.
Intel? :O
 
Bob
Almost like that xkcd except infinitely more rage-inducing.
 
@Bob Wait... so the accepted answer is that someone else is having the same problem?!
 
@Bob was just thinking of that :P
 
Bob
2:34 AM
@MichaelFrank It's MS Answers. Marginally better than Yahoo Answers. Sometimes.
 
have you tried likelyanswer.com? :P
 
Bob
No?
Is it going to make me smash something?
 
Bob
argh
now the MS Store is convinced that "updates were installed"
who the fuck designed this process
I got further last time
 
"How do you find the answer you are looking for when there are billions of answers on the internet?
Most search engines use indirect measurements like backlinks and keywords to return websites, but never make sure that their results actually answer your question.
Our LikelyAnswer search engine uses Artificial Intelligence to give you the most likely answers to any question!"
 
Bob
2:36 AM
@MichaelFrank "uses Artificial Intelligence" => "we like using big marketing words"
"Something happened and your installation of Windows 8.1 couldn't be completed."
WELL FUCK YOU TOO
 
@OliverSalzburg hahaha
 
Bob
2:56 AM
...are you shitting me
it's doing a 3.5 GB download again?
 
@Bob Sounds accurate.
 
3:56 AM
@MichaelFrank I forgot to tell you, I played two viewer matches on the stream of TheBlueMuzzy :D :D :D
won one, lost one.
his viewer matches have custom rules
the first one, I played Marah in ARAB mode and carried the team (stats above ^)
 
4:09 AM
Nice!
Yea, I played a game lastnight as Desecrator and carried my team... we still lost :(
 
Bob
time to try KSP again :D I really need to get around to some mods sometime
 
wow, is his steam really stuttering that much?
 
Bob
would really help if downloading 8.1 didn't kill latency for any online games
 
@MichaelFrank yeah :( it usually doesn't
something hosed on his box i think
 
Bob
TIL doskey
 
4:15 AM
PowerShell doskey, and...
DOSKEY is a utility for DOS and Microsoft Windows that adds command history, macro functionality, and improved editing features to the command line interpreters COMMAND.COM and CMD.EXE. It was included as a TSR program with MS-DOS and PC DOS versions 5 and later, Windows 9x and Windows XP or later. In early 1989 functionality similar to DOSKEY was introduced with DR-DOS 3.40 with its HISTORY CONFIG.SYS directive. This enabled a user-configurable console input history buffer and recall as well as pattern search functionality on console driver level, that is, fully integrated into the...
 
Bob
> Your PC needs to restart
YAY
that's a step further
now let's see if it dies where it did last time (ralink...) or gets further
 
ralink ):
 
Bob
by the way, @allquixotic, this means I probably won't be getting the SP3
maybe when the SP4 comes out, either 3 will be cheap or 4 will be better (and maybe Win9), so... not necessarily a bad thing :)
 
@allquixotic going to play a game now if you're keen!
 
@MichaelFrank too tired :/
@Bob well, good. save the money :)
 
4:21 AM
ok!
 
I think if I am going to act frugally the best thing I can do is wait until 20nm GPUs and 14nm CPUs land, then buy a 13-14" laptop with a discrete GPU and all the features
 
Bob
@allquixotic were you going to skip this one?
heh, back to full-size laptops?
 
@Bob 15"+ is full-size :P
 
Bob
I'd stick with desktops for anything GPU-intensive
 
you can still squeeze a discrete GPU into 13-14"
 
Bob
4:22 AM
much more power, and better cooling
 
eh, but state of the art laptop GPU stuff can be great
 
Bob
mobile CPUs have more or less caught up for most purposes, but GPUs are still a world apart
 
sucks on battery but when plugged it's good
 
Bob
@allquixotic generally expensive and rather immobile though
can't really get enough airflow through a thin 13" laptop
hm. stayputnik or okto? :P
 
GeForce GT 730M? hmm
 
4:29 AM
@jokerdino qt-project.org/doc/qt-5/qtquickcontrols-index.html yay ! Now I'll have to download Qt 5.3 :/
It will make the project simpler ;p
 
alienware has GeForce GTX 765M in a 14" laptop
definitely not buying a current-gen 22nm CPU / 28nm GPU laptop, but once the next die shrink hits, I'll more seriously consider upgrading to a 14"
 
Bob
@allquixotic Or wait till Intel gets more serious with their GPUs? :P
 
@Bob to accomplish that, they'd have to either run much faster RAM in the system overall (DDR4?) or lay even more eDRAM on the proc die
also their drivers aren't nearly as optimized as AMD or Nvidia's
 
why is it that invariably when one computer breaks, your other computer starts having problems too?
 
@AJHenderson it's the Murphy's Catastrophic Law
Whenever something goes wrong, other things which are normally unlikely to go wrong are much, much more likely to go wrong too
 
4:37 AM
sounds about right
particularly since it's in the middle of a busy month
also, for the record, I hate how much it has become common practice to hide logs away in obscure locations
even if they are often more verbose and easy to follow when you do finally find them
I miss friendly error messages like Error 0x3234235: Your ram's busted.
now you just get "Install failed!". No! Really, the fact you didn't install was my first clue
 
Bob
2 hours ago, by Bob
"Something happened and your installation of Windows 8.1 couldn't be completed."
Just had that experience :P
That was all the error message had in it.
 
@Bob they should've made that a LOT more user friendly by putting a :( in it (see my gravatar)
 
Bob
No indication of any logs, or more details being available elsewhere.
 
@Bob well, that is a friendly error unless you already have windows 8 installed ;)
 
Bob
@AJHenderson But not all that useful.
"something happened"
!!meme okay
 
4:41 AM
error messages displayed to the user need to show signs that the computer is alive; that it has empathy
 
depends on your definition of useful ;)
 
:( conveys "I am a sad computer because I couldn't service you"
 
seems to be telling you not to install windows 8... good advice
 
Bob
@AJHenderson I'm trying to go 8 => 8.1.
 
4:42 AM
ah, in that case, not so friendly
 
Bob
Not gonna upgrade anything if I can help it.
At the most, it'll be a clean install.
OS upgrades never work out for me.
The only reason this is an upgrade and not clean is because this is the only channel I can get a free copy through, apparently.
Hey look 99%
Taking bets on it failing.
 
Ahh this is the best part of being a mod
 
@allquixotic ah yes, I knew there was a reason that looked familiar
 
DESTROY. ALL. SPAMMERS.
 
I particularly love seeing it on my server
 
4:44 AM
Apparently someone wanted votes for some silly dance competition. They got smacked down by the paw of dog.
 
I try to avoid logging in to my 2012 box as much as humanly possible
 
Bob
Oh yes. The new user friendly but admins can go to hell messages.
 
@Bob you can install Windows 8.1 clean if you have a valid Windows 8 key. you have to do some trickery with the registry or something, but I did it and it worked for me :P
also, the upgrade from 8 to 8.1 worked fine on my primary desktop
 
Bob
@allquixotic ...I don't have a key.
It's whatever was on the bloody laptop.
 
Bob
4:45 AM
Last I checked, it's something in the UEFI firmware.
@allquixotic Turns out it was VS2013 blocking the upgrade this time.
Which is fucking retarded.
 
@JourneymanGeek lies
 
Bob
I still have VS2010 and VS2012 installed with no problems... what the hell is special about 2013?
 
the best part of being a mod is easily the view deleted chat messages and the ability to edit your messages after timeout
 
Bob
And now I need to dig up the key and reinstall it... fuck.
Great, install complete. Now "getting devices ready". I'm pretty sure this is where it failed last time cause of ralink.
 
@AJHenderson: I abuse those powers suprisingly little
 
Bob
4:47 AM
If only the installer didn't insist on redownloading the damn thing every attempt. Goes from a 1-2 hour process to a 3-4 hour process per attempt.
 
@JourneymanGeek you are apparently a less curious man than I. I honestly am not sure there is a single deleted message I haven't ended up checking. It's like the one sure way to make sure that I see something
 
@Bob I recall that if you save the files DLed to a certain directory you can re-run it instantly, but I forget where :S
 
(in fairness, that is in part to make sure someone wasn't trying to conceal misbehaving)
 
Bob
:P
 
but I'd also be lieing if I said it wasn't a large bit of curiosity too
 
Bob
4:49 AM
@allquixotic :\
Might have to try that next run, if this fails again.
 
@AJHenderson: there used to be this annoying kid who deleted everything... ;p
 
@JourneymanGeek I'm aware, I suspended him on more than one occasion
 
Bob
Ethan? I think.
 
Yeah, I figure unless its deleted so only I can see it, or I NEED to conext..
@Bob: naw, the one who used to stalk me ;p
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek Then there's two.
 
4:51 AM
Ethan is primarily a Comms Room Troll
 
he changed his name a few times as well
never saw him as ethan though
 
@Bob: Porsia/Ut***sh etc
I think @AJHenderson is thinking of the same person ;p
 
ah, yes, that was it
@JourneymanGeek that one
 
Bob
Hm. Then who suspended Ethan? o.O
I remember he was deleting his messages and someone got pissed off enough to suspend him.
Meh.
 
Beats me
Ethan usually gets tolerated and mocked
 
5:07 AM
anyone else having major rendering issues if they try to go in to the Frying Pan or Photography chat rooms?
 
Bob
@AJHenderson Yup.
 
ok, time to find a CM or Dev to ping
 
Bob
@AJHenderson It's not loading the CSS.
This room loads http://cdn-chat.sstatic.net/chat/css/chat.superuser.com.css?v=a2f243f3a1ea
The Frying Pan tries to load http://cdn-chat.sstatic.net/chat/css/chat.cooking.stackexchange.com.css?v=c6e7c‌​ea475f8
And that responds with an "offline for maintenance" page:
<html>
<head>
    <title>We are Offline</title>
    <style type="text/css">
        body { margin: 0; padding: 0; }
        iframe { border: 0; }
    </style>
</head>
<body>
    <iframe width="100%" height="100%" id="pageFrame"></iframe>
    <script type="text/javascript">
        setTimeout(function () { location.reload(true); }, 300000);
        var hostName = window.location.hostname;
        var directory = '';
    </script>
    <script type="text/javascript" src="http://sstatic.net/error-director.js"></script>
 
btw, congrats superuser
when I went to double check how to make sure I was not loading from cache on chrome, the first result I got was superuser
 
Bob
lol
 
5:14 AM
ugh, I hate legacy media
 
yes, 8.5 inch floppies are slow
 
DVD, stopped playing half way
 
I'm not sure if DVD qualifies as legacy media quite yet
 
"Handcuffed man who had been 'smoking meth for three days' shoots at officers using gun hidden in his butt cheeks" dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2661451/… But thats not all, he also had 2 bags of meth hidden in his 'rectal area' ( a cell phone an extra clip, and the keys to his car :-)
 
@AJHenderson if it was already ripped, I'd just grab a spare copy off my storage
dvd is legacy to me :p
 
5:35 AM
Goddammit SE fix the stylesheets ugh
I'm in a horrid severe thunderstorm with hail and wanted to rant at you guys but couldn't find the chat box without the CSS
 
5:54 AM
ohoh , he dropped out. harsh hail storms can be a pre-curser to tornados. weather.com/safety/tornadoes/map pushing on the Storm Tracker button shows 2 possible tornadoes forming.
 
Bob
6:45 AM
@Psycogeek Ouch, looks like there's onr right next to where @allquixotic is.
Hope he's alright.
 
 
2 hours later…
Bob
8:20 AM
@allquixotic @JourneymanGeek now I'm starting to think that the Beats software is simply buggy as all hell and maybe not actively malicious. or it's supposed to be, but buggy while doing it (more likely)
after the 8.1 update, it now sets both bass and treble in the basic tone controls to max (4). It used to set bass to -12 (min) on win8 o.O
 
@Bob: Its probably just shittily designed ;p
 
Bob
@JourneymanGeek still sabotage :P
they just can't do even that right
there should be no legitimate reason to mess with those settings on every reboot when it is disabled
anyway, next goal: get my brightness controls back -_-
 
Bob
8:40 AM
okay.jpg
 
Bob
o.O cool
 
lol
 
@Bob is that because it is programmed in java or uses javascript ?
 
Bob
Lordy.
> hi,all your games will still be in steam so you wont lose anything, just reinstall windows.
Oh yes.
Because I have nothing at all I'd need to keep except games.
And all games are on Steam.
Ayup.
Sometimes I wish I could downvote... or delete... in other places.
 
9:10 AM
Hi guys
 
Would anyone here have knowledge about mobile debugging?
I'm trying to get my Note 3 working with chrome://inspect but getting no joy
 
@OliverSalzburg: I've raved about it repeatedly here ;p
 
Somewhere around the time I got accused of being goth ;p
 
lol
Ugh, it doesn't support the native auth mechanism
 
@OliverSalzburg It was stared ;p
It doesn't support notifs though
 
9:45 AM
@HackToHell Huh. I must be too idle lately
 
10:16 AM
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Q: is any possable to zenoss mails(data) integrate with mysql database table?

user332696I have a zenoss setup for my pc and I want to store every outgoing email from the zenoss to a database. Does any one know how I can achieve this. FYI I just use this server to send emails and I use google Apps to receive emails.

what the tags?
 
Screw you AMD ;p
 
@HackToHell weaksauce. Play a real MOBA, like Dawngate!
 
0
Q: Duplicate system folder Win XP

Chessman557How can a duplicate system folder be deleted in Win XP? When trying to setup a network between this pc and another I got it all wrong. Now I wish to tidy up my mess and remove either the "User" folder or the "All Users" folder. I no longer need the network.

O____o
 
Nooooo! The deleting tag was relevant! :P
 
Bob
10:45 AM
@OliverSalzburg It's all virtual! Virtual reality! No physical boxes here!
 
The problem with killing bad tags is, you always find more bad tags in the process
Like
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg Now that's just !
 
@MichaelFrank It's not free
;p
 
@Bob I kinda thought that was real
 
11:04 AM
Oo ...for questions about... dialogs
That image hurts my brain
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg in what way?
 
11:21 AM
@Bob Look at it in full size. The pattern is kinda dizzying
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg :(
 
Which is why it was tagged :P
Huh, we have but not
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg
 
@Bob Yeah, that could work
 
Bob
I'll never understand crap like this
oh sure let's make a device that supports 802.11ac, but we'll cheap out on the GbE ports!
 
11:35 AM
Oooohh a cloud router
 
Bob
@OliverSalzburg I guess that fits with the rest of my network. Working until it rains.
 
11:47 AM
I am facing a problem. My laptop HP G62 recently had its graphic card (ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5470) replaced. After that I am unable to run it at high performance mode. It hibernates showing reason as overheating.
Yesterday I opened it, and cleaned the cooling assembly as well as applied a new thermal paste. still I am facing the same problem. I ran CPUtemp software and monitored the temperature. It shows Tj max as 105 deg C. But It seems to be hibernating at 85 deg C in high performance and 60 deg C in power saver. What could be the reason? Is this question worth asking on super-user?
 
@AEonAX Yes, it is worth asking
 
I am even unable to play terraria
 
I'd definitely contact whoever replaced the card though
 
Gfx card is working fine though
 
12:17 PM
@Bob: so they can sell a slightly more espensive model with both ;p
 
12:36 PM
Hii
 
YOU'RE ALIVE!
 
1:02 PM
Does anybody know? Can I use NetBeans 7.4 and use the newest JDK that is supposed to work with NetBeans 8.0 ?
 
1:29 PM
@HackToHell You have the all clear. Do what you must (you may reference the crappy UI design I sent you)
 
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