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12:00 AM
@JanusBahsJacquet Hmm why the ʃ?
I guess maybe that also happens in French when you syncopate the schwa...
 
@tchrist Oh, and my paedometer doesn't get a star. I call no fairsies.
 
We do (sometimes) say incitament as [e̝nsitˢæˈmɛnˤd̥], though.
Danish doesn’t have voiced plosives or sibilants
 
@Cerberus Sex talk, dear.
 
Everything gets unvoiced
 
@Robusto I corrected this disparity.
 
12:02 AM
@tchrist Sex talk? Blue?
 
!!wiki Blue film
 
!!
 
@tchrist I don't understand. Maybe you meant: t
A blue film, blue picture, or bf is a euphemistic term used in India, Sri Lanka, Israel and Nepal for an adult film, often made by amateurs or shot in a style recalling amateur pornography. The term blue picture comes from Great Britain, where blue is euphemistically used to refer to works targeting the prurient interest or those that are considered offensive, obscene or in bad taste (blue laws, blue humour and a comedian's blue book are in this same tradition). The arrival of porn star Sunny Leone in the Bigg Boss 5 house in 2011 created a stir in India over the issue of tolerance to...
 
Yeah, that.
 
Adult my ass.
 
12:03 AM
@TheodoreBroda You, sir, are a gentleman.
 
Adult is a euphemism for porn.
 
@tchrist Yes, I should think so.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet Huh what a strange word, surely French doesn't have -a- there...
 
@tchrist Then adultress is a euphemism for a female porn.
 
@tchrist Ohh as in blue laws?
How stupid.
 
12:04 AM
@Cerberus No, you’re right! That probably means we’re less weird that I thought—we must have taken it from Spanish/Italian or something.
 
@Cerberus Unclear.
 
Oh.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet I am not familiar with Nepalese pornography, so I did not know what blue meant, either. Do you know the etymolgy of this euphemism?
 
@Cerberus And blue notes (as in jazz). Think about it.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet Is that an innuendo? :)
 
12:04 AM
@Robusto Just 'cause they're in the middle?
 
@Robusto I am a bot. beep, beep, boop, boop
 
@JanusBahsJacquet Damn you, consistency-whores!
 
@Cerberus Nope, straight from mediaeval Latin, it seems!
 
@terdon jazz by 1912, American English, first attested in baseball slang; as a type of music, attested from 1913. Probably ultimately from Creole patois jass "strenuous activity," especially "sexual intercourse" but also used of Congo dances, from jasm (1860) "energy, drive," of African origin (compare Mandingo jasi, Temne yas), also the source of slang jism.
 
@TheodoreBroda You’re missing out!
 
12:05 AM
@TheodoreBroda You are not familiar with Nepalese pornography?? But you're sixteen!
 
> innuendo: an Italian enema.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet Ah OK, still makes sense.
 
@Cerberus Maybe he spells that word nipplese.
 
Hah.
Tsk.
 
fasciitis: when your militant authoritarians have become inflamed.
 
12:06 AM
@Cerberus I once auditioned to be a Nepalese porn star, but I was rejected.
 
Sadly, the only Nepalese (or Nipplese) pornography-related thing I’ve seen is that rather off-putting documentary about Cathal Ó Searcaigh.
 
@TheodoreBroda Outrageous! I'll file a complaint with the Nepalese embassy.
 
@TheodoreBroda Rascal!
 
@Robusto ah, OK. I thought you were taking it further since the blue note is between the 4th and 5th.
 
@TheodoreBroda What a coincidence. I used to smoke Nepalese temple balls, but not in the porn sense. They were a kind of opiated hashish.
 
12:07 AM
@TheodoreBroda You probably forgot to cloak your sherpa, didn't you?
 
Pr0n-16 is legal only in a few countries. You should be ashamed!
 
@terdon If sex lies between the 4th and 5th scale steps, it must be painfully discordant.
 
I think you need to be 18 here.
At least 18 is for prostitution.
 
Good thing there are laws for that.
 
@Robusto and yet, hauntingly melodious at times.
 
12:08 AM
@Robusto I thought it lay between the 5th and 7th.
 
@tchrist Survey says . . . 4th and 5th. Diabolus in musica.
 
@KitFox The name of the film was Climbing Everest.
 
@TheodoreBroda Haha eww.
 
@Robusto The Wolf in the Forest.
But sex comes between sink and set.
 
wolf <-> flow
 
12:10 AM
(@TheodoreBroda Wow. I only just now—seriously!—realised that your name says Theodore. Not Theodora. So you’re not a middle-aged woman in a hat, which is what I thought your tiny avatar in this room looked like. I blame night vision.)
 
@TheodoreBroda Surely you mean Climbing Neverrest!
 
Climbing ivy.
 
@Robusto So...menstruation?
 
@JanusBahsJacquet Yesterday I learned his last name wasn't Brota.
@KitFox MaxiPad: Go With the Flow®
 
Wow, you all are terribly inobservant, eh?
 
12:11 AM
You remember where you heard that one, right?
 
Yes.
 
Don't say it like it's a horrible memory.
 
@KitFox ?
 
@Robusto The hederae are always climbers, aren’t they though? :)
 
@terdon She's just kicking us while we're down.
@tchrist Parvenu, the lot of them.
 
12:12 AM
@KitFox I’m sorry, do I know you? You must be new here.
 
@terdon Nobody could read "Teddy Borady" apparently.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet I didn't recognize that my name was so complex. My full name is "Theodore Carrigan-Broda", but not even I can handle that hyphenated monstrosity. Maybe I should just change my username to "Ted B" for you simpletons, and set a less androgynous profile image
 
@tchrist Better than five, coming betwee fear and sex.
 
And thank you for the courtesy of providing me that lead in.
 
hederae != ἑταῖραι
 
12:13 AM
@TheodoreBroda Can we call you Teddy?
 
But I think ivy was not a count noun.
 
@Robusto Fo shizzle.
 
@tchrist Oh, you mean a whore who can be brought to culture.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet You so funneh.
 
@KitFox Nope, still wallowing in incomprehension I'm afraid.
 
12:13 AM
@TheodoreBroda It’s not even complex at all. I apparently just can’t read. And all avatars are androgynous at 12x12 pixels, or however much these here are.
 
Teddy B!
 
Teddy Ballgame!
 
@terdon Get away from the wall, and then you can make like the kine lowing.
 
It's horrible. My t key barely functions.
 
By the way, it's stupid how English (rhyming slang?) can abbreviate both Edward and Theodore as Ted.
 
12:14 AM
@JanusBahsJacquet I thought she was Theodora, too.
 
@KitFox Use τ
 
@terdon Er, don't. (That's an anagram of your name, btw.)
@Cerberus And sometimes Ned!
 
@Robusto Heh, so it is. 8 points to you! (minus 2 for adding punctuation)
 
@Cerberus I agree.
 
> Ned is an English given name, sometimes short for Edward, Edmund, Edgar, or Edwin.
@terdon Punctuation is free.
 
12:16 AM
> Other forms for Edward, Édouard, Edoardo, Eduardo, Eduard or Edvard. Short forms include Ed, Eddy, Eddie, Ted, Teddy, Woody and Ned. Edward can be abbreviated as Edw.
 
I have an uncle named Edwin, went by Roy.
 
@Cerberus I'm not surprised that such things exist. Given the prevalence of date rape, it makes sense that some women would treat going outside like going into combat. But really the problem is that it's not completely absurd in the first place, as it should be. It should be unheard-of that people get sexually assaulted, anywhere, anytime.
 
Leroy?
 
@KitFox He probably didn’t know he was an Elf-friend.
 
Leroy used to be the king of France.
 
12:16 AM
Same as Alwin.
 
@Robusto Arg, really? I thought Ned was from...I don't know!
 
@Robusto Tell that to Cummings's publisher.
 
@tchrist "Woody" is a terrible name, unless you're a Nepalese porn star.
 
@Robusto faints
 
Lance Goodthrust.
 
12:17 AM
@Robusto have you read the Baroque cycle by any chance?
 
@terdon That was just a scheme to save ink.
 
@Robusto See? Not free.
 
@TheodoreBroda It was always my wont to rise before the dawn, would I or nould I.
 
Very woody.
Not at all tinny.
 
@terdon Yes.
 
12:18 AM
@terdon Didn't we talk about this?
 
@TheodoreBroda And if you’re feeling hard done by, you should meet an acquaintance of mine. She’ll understand your plight. Her name’s Nilushi Hashini Galappaththi-Arachchige. Being Tamil comes at a price.
 
Don't remember. I think we did talk about Stephenson in general, yes. That was a reference to it then?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That too! But what's also outrageous is that the ad plays into women's fears and makes sexual assault seem like a normal thing that is part of every-day life, like menstruation. The more normal it is portrayed to be, the more pendants they can sell.
 
Sorry, Edwin is rich-pal, while Alvin is elf-friend.
 
Feb 8 '13 at 15:25, by tchrist
Don’t read Stephenson’s Baroque Cycle; it does that to you, too.
There's where we talked about it.
Among other places.
 
12:19 AM
And that suffices.
 
@Cerberus For many women it IS a part of everyday life.
 
@Cerberus If "Larry" is the nickname for Lawrence, is "Harry" the nickname for "Hawrence"?
 
@Robusto Ah, missed that one.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet I always feel hard when I'm done by. Kind of a turn-on, I guess.
@terdon You should go back in time and get in on that.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well, not exactly. It has never happened to my best friend ever in her life.
 
12:19 AM
@TheodoreBroda Read more Shakey.
 
@TheodoreBroda Must be! Stupid, incomprehensible language...
 
@JanusBahsJacquet I can beat that. My sister's name is Aliki Chapple.
@Robusto Ummm... OK
 
@Cerberus yes, that anecdote totally disproves the theory. We've been over this before. You don't think there is a problem. Fair enough. You are entitled to being wrong.
 
> Alvin was introduced in the 19th century based on surnames which were in turn derived from the Old English names Æthelwine, Ælfwine and Ealdwine. The names mean "noble friend", "friend of the elves", and "old friend" respectively.
 
@terdon That’s at least fairly easy to spell. Though it does make her sound very fond of ecclesiastic architecture, I suppose.
 
12:20 AM
And no, Ælfwine comes not from Dorthonion.
 
@Cerberus That should be the answer to every question on EL&U: "Don't bother, it's a stupid, incomprehensible language".
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 If you think sexual assault is as normal as menstruation, then I have nothing more to say...
 
Yep. And Godwine means "good friend."
 
She went to a one man show all about how the actor's life had been so hard because his last name was Dick. Among other things, he said, no woman would marry me, because nobody would want to be Mrs Dick. At which point he turned to my sister and asked her if she would consider it and she got to reply that "certainly not, for then I would be called Aliki Dick."
 
@TheodoreBroda And we could close all questions are off topic!
 
12:21 AM
@Cerberus I'm not saying it happens to every women as often as their periods. I'm saying it happens a lot.
 
!!rimshot
 
@JanusBahsJacquet See the above. And imagine spending high school being called "A little church with a hole in the roof".
@KitFox I swear to you, that is a true story.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Never mind, I just think it is outrageous fear-mongering.
 
And that is truly the worst name I have ever come across.
 
12:22 AM
@Cerberus have you heard of the #yesallwomen thing on twitter recently?
 
@terdon I take it you’ve never met Batman Superman, then?
 
sighs mercilessly
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 No?
 
I feel like drinking. How bad is it for me to drink after taking ibuprofen?
 
Believe it or not, it just dawned on me the other day that Le Moulin Rouge meant "The Red Windmill" . . . shows you how unobservant I can be when I put my mind to it.
 
12:23 AM
@KitFox I think it's pretty bad.
 
@KitFox No problem. It's acetaminophen you have to watch out for.
 
@Cerberus In response to the recent mass murder by a self-described misogynist. hundreds of women took to twitter describing the everyday sexual assault in their lives.
 
@Robusto Wait, it isn’t about painted mussels after all?
 
@KitFox It's not recommended but probably won't kill you.
 
@tchrist Survey says . . . red windmills!
 
12:24 AM
@JanusBahsJacquet Or Adolf Hilter what's-his-name and his sister Aryan something or other.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Everyday sexual assault that such a pendant would prevent?
That seems very unlikely.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet Better than Aliki Dick!
 
@Cerberus No. But everyday sexual assault that is literally every day. Or very common.
 
@Cerberus Sure, a pendant will do for everyday sexual assault. But for truly exceptional sexual assault you'll need a pedant.
 
I’d quite like one of those pendants, to the honest. Get me out of a lot of very boring situations.
 
12:25 AM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That is not what the pedant is for. The pendant pretends that the kind of thing it protects you against happens daily.
 
@terdon There was an actual NASCAR driver named Dick Trickle. Only in America...
 
Wow. I must be tired. I read the last few sentences and thought you were talking about some type of predatory pedant.
 
@Robusto Yeah I'm not happy with the terminology, of course...
 
@Cerberus Of course it doesn't pretend it happens daily. It acknowledges that it happens to a lot of women.
 
@Cerberus You are literally blundering your way into my joke.
 
12:25 AM
@TheodoreBroda OK, not bad.
 
@terdon Haha, how would that work?
 
It puts the lotion on its skin.
 
@terdon With one or two k's?
 
@Cerberus Not really sure, I was hoping to figure it out :)
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 You put on your pendant and your tampon, like a normal thing for something that happens several times a month.
 
12:26 AM
@tchrist One. Transcribed from Greek Αλίκη
 
@KitFox And the lime in the coconut?
 
@terdon Yes! Then we could prey on women!
 
@terdon What, no licking allowed?
 
@Cerberus That's a funny place to wear a pedant.
 
@Cerberus What would be the point of a portable alarm that summons help in the event of date rape if you didn't have it with you?
 
12:27 AM
I think they should just make an everyday tampon, to prevent vaginal raping.
 
@tchrist No. Poor Richard.
 
@Robusto Well. I don't know what would be a proper retort to that.
 
@KitFox One with teeth perhaps?
 
Or a built in alarm.
 
@terdon There is such a thing
 
12:27 AM
@Cerberus Should you fail, the pedant will correct you.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 The point is that it makes the scenario seem like a normal thing.
 
a female condom with spines
 
You'd have to enter a code to remove it or it would explode and spray ink everywhere.
 
"Tampon, condom, pendant".
 
Red ink.
 
12:28 AM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Designed for pain or pleasure?
 
@Cerberus Yes. And I'm telling you that it is. You just don't want to believe it.
 
@KitFox Virginal rape can only happen once or thrice.
 
Seriously, though, I think if women wore a pedant between their legs they would never, ever get sexually assaulted.
 
@Robusto I suppose you’d have to really practice your clenching to sound the alarm …
 
@Robusto Cor"rect", eh?
 
12:28 AM
@terdon It's meant to prevent rape.
 
The pedant would just sit there and criticize until the attacker went home.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Wow. Pain then.
@Robusto Yeah, correct the ungrammatical utterances of lust and the like?
 
Absolutely. What could be more of a turn-off?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 The scenario that the pendant is intended for, i.e. calling the police to fight off a rapist, is not as common as condom use or menstruation.
 
@Robusto Depends on the metel of the pettle.
 
12:29 AM
@Robusto Nepalese porn.
 
@Robusto Dunno, the pedant might get off on it.
 
@Robusto I don't know. Some people are into that.
 
convinces himself that the pedant trope is not yet played out
 
What the...
 
12:30 AM
@Cerberus says you. In fact, date-rape is very common.
 
Yes. Booze is a good idea.
 
@Cerberus That’s not the only purpose of it. Clicking a button to make your cell phone ring and make an excuse to leave is not calling the police to fight off a rapist.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That looks like an iron maiden.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet It lets nice girls be nice girls.
 
12:31 AM
@Robusto Oh fuck, I only see it now...I didn't even see it in your line when you typed pedant without the n!
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 struggles to come up with a joke involving dried fruit
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Never mind.
 
@Cerberus Why do I waste my wit on you?
 
@Robusto You still have peddle, pettle, pedal, petal to mine.
 
@tchrist I'm pacing myself.
 
12:31 AM
Where pettle is probably the one that applies here, and which nobody south of the Orkneys enclues on.
 
Put the pettle to the mettle.
6 mins ago, by Robusto
@Cerberus You are literally blundering your way into my joke.
 
Poison in the pestle.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Nice.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet That's not what I would imagine the pendant to be for. You can easily do that by just having your phone ring by hand. Or, if you are not forcefully held down, you can just walk away. A pendant seems more like an emergency device for when you are unable to reach for your phone or something, like those bracelets older people wear?
 
12:33 AM
@Robusto He does that. China-shop syndrome.
 
So, @Cerb, you have more than one female friend?
 
@Robusto That’s just gross. Ain’t nobody putting their mettle in my pettle!
 
> Ehlers isn't suggesting that British or American women run out and purchase this product - it was introduced in South Africa to address the terrifying frequency of sexual assault. South Africa has one of the highest levels of rape in the world; a 2006 study found that a woman is raped every 17 seconds. To make matters even worse, a 2009 Amnesty International report found that out of over 20,000 reports of rape, only 8% led to convictions.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet You might like it if you try. You never know.
 
@Robusto I was too busy countering Mr Shiny, so much to type, so much to read...
@KitFox No.
 
12:33 AM
@Robusto Can’t you two get a room?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That woman is really unlucky.
 
@tchrist We’re already in one.
 
What, nobody's making any mettle puns?
 
Yeah. What @JanusBahsJacquet said.
 
@terdon I already did.
 
12:34 AM
@terdon We're playing way past that now.
 
So are a lot of people. I know those rooms: very slippery.
 
Keep up!
 
@JanusBahsJacquet I meant in reply to yours. Something about not having the mettle for it but I couldn't get it right.
 
@Robusto I try, I try!
 
12:35 AM
@tchrist I said rooms, not grooms.
 
Norwegian black mettle.
 
I keep forgetting to get that drink.
 
@Robusto Yeah, that will do nicely.
 
@KitFox It's like you were pre-drunk.
 
@terdon No one wants to admit they’re shooting blanks.
 
12:35 AM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I'm afraid the pedant's scenario does not cover all things called "rape" by certain people.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet With enough steam, or foam, they’re all the same color and slipperiness.
 
> Date Rape occurs when there is forced or coerced sex within a dating relationship. With Aquaintance Rape the act is committed by someone known to the victim. Nearly 2/3 of all victims between the ages of 18 and 29 report that they had a prior relationship with their attacker.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet Heh, that got a chuckle.
 
@Cerberus You simply misunderstand how often people are forced to have sex.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet checks self for vasectomy scars Nope.
 
12:36 AM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Then the solution is obvious: no relationships with attackers!
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It's because he's only got the one woman friend and he probably doesn't know any ex-cons.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 But I should not have brought up the subject. The point of the article on the Verge is actually that it the pendant results in a normalisation of actual rape, thereby making rape "acceptable" in society.
 
@Robusto Ah, that was a typo, I thought you were angling for the star wall.
 
@Cerberus What a strange conclusion to draw.
 
@terdon Who do I look like, @MattЭллен?
 
12:37 AM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 So you say.
 
> 1 out of 6 women have been victims of rape or attempted rape in their lifetime. (National Institute of Justice & Centers for Disease Control & Prevention.)
 
Don't make me bring up "touching and laughing" again, or what was it?
 
No, I don't want to bring that up, because that was a total clusterfuck last time.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That is not about the social attitudes causes by pendants...
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Did you say one in six?
 
12:38 AM
@Cerberus You have the horse before the cart. The assaults are happening. They often happen when people thought they were otherwise safe: that is, someone they trusted is now raping them. Hence the need for a portable alarm.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That’s because he’s no longer a 14-year-old 90-pound homeless waif wandering the canals of Amsterdam. And I don’t mean the c version, either.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That is not what the conclusion of the article was about.
 
@Cerberus I didn't read the article. Anyway I can't control what conclusions other people draw.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Make them take off the tinfoil hats then.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I was just saying the conclusion was more like something I would expect you to say, as in "we shouldn't underestimate the severity of or normalise rape".
 
12:40 AM
The point isn't that the makers of this pendant are trying to create a world that's fucked-up and scary so that they sell pendants. The point is that the world is already fucked-up and scary.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Welcome to reality.
 
As one of the #yesallwomen women wrote: What most mean fear most about going to prison is what women fear about walking to their parked car at night.
 
     Hushed are the winds and still the evening gloom,
     Not e'en a Zephyr wanders through the grove,
     Whilst I return to view my Margaret's tomb
     And scatter flowers on the dust I love.
 
Let's just agree that forcing or manipulating people into sex is bad, OK?
 
@Cerberus Yes. That would be a good starting point. If only more people would realize that.
 
12:43 AM
@Cerberus You know, manipulating is a funny thing. Do it slow enough and it’s called courting.
 
@tchrist Watch your hands, sir!
 
@tchrist Haha true...I must say I am ambivalent towards courting. On the one hand, it is very...unequal, superficial, and manipulative. On the other, it is romantic and fun.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Prison rape is only common in America. I think the high occurences of prison rape are ridiculous, too. Committing a crime should not waive your right to not be raped.
 
Palpation and manipulation describe the same thing, ultimately.
 
@TheodoreBroda Yes, I don't think prison rape exists here.
 
12:44 AM
@TheodoreBroda agreed. It is mainly a problem with the prison system. There is violence in prisons too.
 
America boasts the largest prison system in the world! Suck it, rest-of-the-world!
 
Prison rape certainly does exist here (and I would be almost certain in the Netherlands, too). It’s perhaps not as widespread an issue as in the US, but it exists and is fairly common.
 
@Cerberus On the other hand, pace @JanusBahsJacquet, grooming is a slipperier matter, coming somewhere between manipulating and courting.
 
Well, it would be less of a problem if those prison jumpsuits were less revealing.
4
 
(Woot, I just got pace’d!)
 
12:45 AM
Enticing?
@KitFox Orange is the new cleavage?
 
@KitFox Yeah those damn prisoners, always dressing so slutty
 
@Cerberus I think the Norwegian penal system is an excellent example; it is meant to reform the prisoners, not merely punish them. That's why America's recidivism rate is three times higher than Norway's rate.
 
Well, and waving cigarettes around in people's faces like they're currency.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet Anywhere you put enough XYs (especially with XXYs and XYYs) in a confined area for long enough, these things are bound to occur. Boarding schools. Summer camps. Submariners.
 
So I just read on wikipedia that the Netherlands only defines rape criminally as occurring under the threat of violence. So I guess drugging someone and then raping them wouldn't count? I wonder.
 
12:47 AM
XXYs would go in a women's prison.
 
@tchrist Subbmarines . . . the sandwich or the vehicle?
 
@KitFox No, of course not.
 
@Cerberus I guess you don't have soap on a rope, then. Never bend over in an American prison shower!
 
So does rape occur in women's prisons? I am partially (not bi-) curious.
 
Yes.
 
12:47 AM
If you have a Y, you are male. The number of X’s doesn’t matter.
In mammals.
Klinefelter syndrome () or Klinefelter's syndrome is the set of symptoms resulting from additional X genetic material in males. Also known as 47,XXY or XXY, Klinefelter syndrome is a genetic disorder in which there is at least one extra X chromosome to a standard human male karyotype, for a total of 47 chromosomes rather than the 46 found in genetically typical humans. While females have an XX chromosomal makeup, and males an XY, individuals with Klinefelter syndrome have at least two X chromosomes and at least one Y chromosome. Because of the extra chromosome, individuals with the con...
 
@KitFox So it's not just men who rape? It's women as well?
 
@JanusBahsJacquet Really? Sources? I'm sure rape happens in every place, but is it a serious problem in prisons?
 
@Robusto Boys, too.
 
not going to get into definition of sex determination
 
@tchrist I think that is with minors?
 
12:49 AM
@tchrist I'm thinking of Turner Syndrome, I guess.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Pretty sure that that’s precisely what we’ve been talking about.
 
@Robusto I was just reading that there is a huge category of unreported female-on-male rape. But even in the reported case, there was an incident a while ago where four women kidnapped a guy, took him to a parking lot, raped him, then dumped him and drove off.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 How exactly did they "rape" him?
And no wonder it goes unreported.
 
@Cerberus See this source.
 
I have no sources ready at hand, but the two guys I know who have done time (they’re brothers and both really nice guys … but from bad crowds) have both told me, independently, that it happens not infrequently. They were both victims of it.
 
12:50 AM
@TheodoreBroda Yes, absolutely. But there is pressure in Europe, too, for more severe punishments and such. It is the inevitable result of egalitarianism, I think: the lower classes want more severe punishment always, but society used to listen to them less.
 
Men get raped too, just like they can be victims of domestic violence. Unfortunately, we don't hear about that as much.
 
@Cerberus Whoa, you're blaming it on egalitarianism? That is so snobbish!
@KitFox Well, what guy would want to admit that?
 
Exactly.
 
@Robusto I'm not sure what, precisely, transcribed.
 
@TheodoreBroda Umm that hardly seems realistic to me! Rape doesn't happen in 1 second of distraction.
 
12:52 AM
"My girlfriend beat me up and raped me!" is likely to garner more laughter than sympathy.
 
@Robusto yes, that is exactly the problem.
 
My normally very confident husband faltered in a conversation when I said something about how he'd been abused in a former relaionship.
 
@KitFox In the US Armed Forces, the number of male rapes and female rapes is about even. But that’s because of how many more men there are in the service. The incidence rate per N is of course different.
 
@TheodoreBroda Right, I know it happens in some other countries. I have seen Oz!
@Robusto Well, all populist parties want severe punishments everywhere, don't they?
 
@Cerberus Name some populist parties.
 
12:53 AM
@JanusBahsJacquet Wow, that's awful.
 
Anyway, this has been a thrilling conversation about my favourite topic, but now I must go escape into the fantasy world of Game of Thrones where nothing bad ever happens.
bye
 
I was like he couldn't conceive of that applying to him.
 
@Robusto Nothing involving beating should involve laughter.
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Sorry about ******.
 
@Robusto Front National, PVV, the PiS...
 
@tchrist Of course not. But a guy who confesses that he was beat up by a woman at least would fear being laughed at.
 
12:54 AM
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Don't grow soft on the Iron Throne!
 
@Cerberus I know not of those.
 
@tchrist How discreet. Even I got that spoiler, and I haven’t seen a single episode!
 
@Cerberus He can take about an hour on the tower of power.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well, if you thought that were true, this week will convince you different.
 
@Robusto You are a lucky man.
@tchrist I can't quite put my finger on it, but it sounds obscene...
 
12:55 AM
@Cerberus The finger is just the starting point.
 
In some dialects, pillar and pillow sound the same.
@tchrist Also the pointing start.
 
@Cerberus & @tchrist Once you get past the elbow, that’s when it gets really obscene.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet OK, now that's just rude.
 
> In 2002, Jean-Marie Le Pen campaigned on the law and order policies of "zero tolerance", harsher sentencing, increased prison capacity, as well as a referendum on re-introducing the death penalty.[104] In its 2001 program, the party linked the breakdown of law and order to immigration, deeming immigration a "mortal threat to civil peace in France."[106]
 
@JanusBahsJacquet You want him to need a triple-bypass?
 
12:56 AM
@Cerberus Even I've heard of Le Pen.
 
The Front National, Europe's largest populist party.
@Robusto See?
 
Well, populism means something else in Europe, I guess.
 
All populist parties are like that, at least here.
What does it mean outside Europe?
 
Silver slippers, Auntie Em.
 
So by populist, you really mean right-wing?
 
12:57 AM
@JanusBahsJacquet That’s because I am that merry wanderer of the night.
 
@Cerberus I wouldn't know. We have but two parties here in the U.S. Just one more than Russia had under Stalin.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet Well, populist parties happen to be right wing in Europe. At least now.
 
There are no political parties (up here at least) who won’t claim to be populist (= fighting for the people).
 
Umm.
That is a strange definition of populism.
 
!!wiki Populism
 
12:58 AM
Populism is a political doctrine that appeals to the interests and conceptions (such as fears) of the general people, especially contrasting those interests with the interests of the elite. Princeton University http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=populism Populist sentiment contributed to the American Revolutionary War, and continued to shape the young United States afterward. While for much of the twentieth century populism was considered to be a political phenomenon mostly in Latin America, since the 1980s populist movements and parties have enjoyed degrees of success in Fir...
 
Really?
 
Well, working for the ordinary people.
 
hi, guyz
 
Seems in line to me.
 
In America we have one party that professes to be for the people but isn't (Democrats) and the other (Republicans) who have convinced the people that any crime against them by the plutocrats is justified by letting the citizenry have ready access to firearms.
 
12:58 AM
I'd call demagogues of both sides of the spectrum populist. I associate it with both right and left.
 
But my liege would pay me no head, so pop goes the weasel.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet Where is "up here"?
 
@happenask Hello.
 
@JanusBahsJacquet It is to me a synonym of demagoguery. Playing into the "fears" of the common people is an essential part, as the Wiki article says (but it seems rather Americo-centric).
 
@Robusto You say that like it's a bad thing.
 
12:59 AM
May 26 at 0:35, by tchrist
Democrats are somewhat socially conscious oligarchs; Republicans are vindictive crossburning oligarchs.
 
@terdon Spoken like a true Greek.
 
Wow. My reading comprehension skills are on FIRE tonight! I just realised that KitFox and KitSox are two different users! (One bot, one not, natch.)
 

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