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9:00 PM
while I wouldn't go back and undo what I've learned about A/V Production, I also am sure to warn people before they start
 
And both season 1 and season 2's finales have only minor cliff-hangers, so you can basically stop watching there and not feel like you're missing out.
anyway, time to go, have a good weekend folks
 
the upshot is that when you do go to a truely outstanding concert, you can enjoy it far more
I love going to TSO's shows
because they do a phenominal job
 
@JasperLoy I have a deep, almost ineffable hatred for Windows XP. The first time I used a computer, it was an XP desktop with dial-up internet access. I almost abandoned technology after that. I need a lot of words to attempt to describe my undying hatred for the OS that shall not be named (henceforth).
 
@TheodoreBroda But why does you hate the unspeakable system so much?
It works well enough for me...
 
@TheodoreBroda don't say that, it makes me feel really old
and I'm not even 30 yet
(by 3 and a half weeks)
if you'd like to hate XP less, boot up a computer with ME sometime
if you can manage to get it to boot
which would be a feat in and of itself
 
9:05 PM
Strangely enough, I do like MS-DOS.
 
@TheodoreBroda Oh you look cool in that pic
 
the first computer I used ran Dos 3.22
 
dos is very much like vim
 
The first OS I ran was XP I think
 
I only ~tried~ vim for 30 seconds
 
9:06 PM
lol
 
@JasperLoy Thanks. Are you talking about my profile pic? I heavily edited it in GIMP to give the illusion of looking cool.
 
Then I used Vista
Then I used Linux
@TheodoreBroda Oh, you must have removed all the imperfections lol
 
I moved to windows for Windows 3.0, 3.1, 3.11, 95B, 98 second edition, 2000, XP, Vista, 7. I also used server 2003 and 2008. I technically also have a server 2012 edition running at home, though it makes me sad every time I have to remote in
I also did have some experience with an ME box that I used, but it wasn't my personal computer
 
@JasperLoy Thanks to photoshop, who needs Clearasil (or going to the gym, for that matter)?
 
@TheodoreBroda I used Clearasil over a decade ago, lol
 
9:10 PM
@AJHenderson I do not envy your ME experience. I have only heard tales of that horror.
 
@TheodoreBroda it was an advanced video editing system I built for a non-profit I worked with in High school
so not only did it have ME's stability issues, but I also had to manage the issues related to specialized hardware in it
and I built it in that couple year mistake where people thought RDRAM was a good idea
before it was promptly and universally replaced with DDR
 
@AJHenderson Oh! I thought you were referring to Windows Millennium Edition. These acronyms are confusing.
 
that is Windows ME
that I was talking about
 
@AJHenderson I thought you said it was a video editing system.
 
it was
it was a Windows ME box with Premiere Pro 6 I think it was. It had a Matrox RT2500 in it
which was a real time editing card
I somehow kept it running pretty smoothly
but whenever it broke, I'd spend hours getting it working again
but for the late 90s, having a computer that could do 3d transitions, multiple color corrections, titling and multi-track playback, all in real time for full resolution SD video was a big deal
I could render something on that thing in 20 minutes that would take 10 hours on a normal PC from that time
 
9:15 PM
@AJHenderson Ah! An ME computer with Premiere installed. Now I understand (I can be obtuse sometimes).
 
oh that's depressing
that card was like 2 grand when we got it back in the day
now you can get it for $30 (provided you can find a computer to put it in)
of course, a modern computer can do better than real time without needing that card
 
Speaking of outdated Windows products, has anyone here ever heard of Microsoft Bob?
 
yes
I've even used it
though only very VERY briefly
long enough to realize someone thought clippy was a fantastic idea and should be turned in to an entire product
 
I had to star a reference to Clippy. I'm sorry.
 
Microsoft Agent was actually a pretty cool platform though
(the thing that clippy was driven by)
 
9:21 PM
!! wiki Microsoft Agent
 
Microsoft Agent is a technology developed by Microsoft which employs animated characters, text-to-speech engines, and speech recognition software to enhance interaction with computer users. Thus it is an example of an embodied agent. It comes preinstalled as part of Microsoft Windows 2000 through Windows Vista. Microsoft Agent functionality is exposed as an ActiveX control that can be used by web pages. The theory behind this software came from work on social interfaces by Clifford Nass and Byron Reeves at Stanford's Center for the Study of Language and Information. Version history Int...
 
it was one of the earliest systems to have phonetic based character mouth animation that I messed with
you could actually build your own agents if you wanted to. I tried a few times. Never got particularly far, but it was fun to play with the tools
 
@AJHenderson Is it still available to play with?
 
if you get an old copy of Visual Studio 6, probably
I don't know, I haven't looked at it in a long, long time
 
Did Photoshop use to be free long ago?
 
9:23 PM
no
but there was an LE edition
that was given out with lots of things
 
Ah OK
 
my first experience with Photoshop was an LE edition
 
What is LE?
 
light edition
it was even more limited than elements as I recall
 
Ah, so the LE is free then?
 
9:24 PM
it was not technically free
but it was bundled with a lot of OEM stuff
so it often came "free" with a new computer
my memory of LE is a little bit limited though because a) I was young and b) I've used some 10 different versions of photoshop since then
I got a full copy back when Photoshop 6 was out and have had a full version ever since
 
I am older than you I think. I will be 33 this year
 
though I stopped at CS6
I'm not paying a freaking rental fee to let Adobe control my entire collection of work
 
@JasperLoy If you are frugal like me, and don't want to spend your money on expensive Adobe software, there is a great alternative called GIMP that has most of the functionality of a full Photoshop version.
 
@TheodoreBroda Ah, it is installed by default on my Linux machine
 
@TheodoreBroda as long as "functionality" doesn't include "not being a total pita to do anything more complicated than doodle"
I do use GIMP at work though
since I don't have a Photoshop license here and I refuse to pirate
 
9:28 PM
@AJHenderson I admit it has a horrible user interface, but it can do a lot more than a doodle.
 
yes, it can do a lot of what photoshop can do, it's just a PITA
I wasn't saying it couldn't, just that any moderately complex functionality is a pain to use
 
@AJHenderson I thought I was the only one left with moral reservations about piracy.
 
where as Photoshop is quick and natural
 
You get what you pay for, though.
 
I find the GIMP interface very confusing
 
9:29 PM
gimp is nice ime
 
@TheodoreBroda yeah, don't get me wrong, I'm not bashing GIMP
for what it is, it is great
but I'd hardly say it is fair to compare it to photoshop
 
@TheodoreBroda piracy also has practical issues, probably a good way to get a computer infected
 
especially if you actually know both platforms well
for me, it comes down to the hypocrisy of it. I make my living on writing software and make side income on artistic works
 
@AJHenderson You're right, but it's the closest open-source alternative.
 
@AJHenderson You misspelled hypocrisy
I like to correct spellings in chat, lol
 
9:31 PM
granted, I also do have the advantage of actually making enough income to pay for my A/V software and hardware from doing commercial work with it
 
I use Chrome spell checker
 
@AJHenderson And in the EL&U chatroom, no less? You should be ashamed of your orthographic transgressions!
 
so the cost has never really been a problem for me
 
@JohanLarsson I turned off all spell check!
 
If my English was perfect, I wouldn't have to be in here
;)
 
9:32 PM
I spell really bad but am good in finding errors others make
 
I spell really poorly
 
@AJHenderson I'm an unemployed teenager, so lots of software is cost-prohibitive for me.
 
@TheodoreBroda educational pricing ftw
I also started doing wedding videos when I was in high school
I've since switched to Photography though
less work, better pay, same hardware
since most independent video types are shooting on DSLRs these days
 
@JohanLarsson Oh, I'm sorry, that was JasperLoy.
 
9:36 PM
Yes, and you seem to have misspelled it as well, lol
 
I really should shoot myself a better profile picture
 
Muphry's law is an adage that states that when a person criticises another's editing or proofreading, there will be a mistake of a similar kind in that criticism. The name is a deliberate misspelling of Murphy's law. Similar laws have also been coined, usually in the context of online communication, under names including Skitt's Law, Hartman's Law of Prescriptivist Retaliation (or The Law of Prescriptive Retaliation), and McKean's Law. Further variations state that flaws in a printed or published work will only be discovered after it is printed and not during proofreading, and flaws such...
 
I was just lazy when I grabbed that one of my cat
 
@JohanLarsson "Muphry's Law". Good one!
 
9:38 PM
Fuckin' clippy.
 
Technology is amazing, this gif file
 
this one was posted a bit ago in DMZ
 
GIF is amazing. For a technology from 1987, it still does its job well.
 
kind of like HTML?
 
@AJHenderson oh dear.
 
9:39 PM
or IP
or TCP
:)
 
@AJHenderson Yes, like HTML (and the Internet itself, for that matter).
 
we have a lot more old technologies making the world go than people like to think about
 
I wonder what contemporary technologies will still be around in thirty years (and by what they might be replaced).
 
@AJHenderson Wow!!
That doggie was lucky.
And the people around him.
 
Verbs don''t describe people; verbs describe feelings, intentions, and behaviors. If it's the behavior you're asking about, there is no verb that specifically refers to that -- it's an awfully precise concept, after all. But one can certainly describe it, as you did. — John Lawler 1 hour ago
 
9:42 PM
the thing I can't believe is that the dog doesn't drop it
 
I don't see the point in this comment. And it has 4 upvotes.
 
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Also adorable!
 
It is clear from the question what the asker is looking for
 
Even though he did not phrase it as well
 
9:43 PM
@AJHenderson I'm surprised that dachshund isn't a "roasted wiener" or a "hot" dog by now, playing with all those pyrotechnics.
 
@AJHenderson undefined behavior
 
Well, while we are still on the topic of GIFs...
 
Looks like XP
Vote @Mahnax for moderator, lol.
 
@JasperLoy No, no. Don't do that.
 
@Mahnax Just don't run then
 
9:54 PM
@JasperLoy Well.
 
@JasperLoy Yes, @Cerberus must have asked for Clippy on Word 2002.
 
10:12 PM
Yay Clippy!
I use him every day.
He likes it.
Did you see the unicorn Clippy that Stack Exchange had on April 1?
Why did it take so long for developers to realise that pop-up are freaking annoying? And why does Samsung still not get it on its phones?
 
@Cerberus I did not, I was too busy paying attention to Google's antics (like Pokemon on Google Maps). Could you find a screenshot of unicorn Clippy?
 
@Cerberus That's hilarious!
 
So he has a name: Clip-Cloppy.
 
10:24 PM
Too bad that question has been removed.
@TheodoreBroda I think that question asked just made it up.
 
@Cerberus It's still a clever name.
 
Hmm I'm not sure I get it...
From the sound of hooves?
 
@Cerberus Yup. At least where I'm from "clip-clop" is a common onomatopoeia for horse hooves (although it can be extended to unicorn paperclips as well).
 
Ah OK.
Noted.
 
Has Stack Overflow done any other April Fools' Day pranks?
 
10:44 PM
@TheodoreBroda well there was that time they made me a moderator... But it wasn't April 1st... And it didn't go away
 
Any 10kers here?
 
Hello.
@TheodoreBroda All of SE does a prank every year!
@AJHenderson Ahh so that explains...the site. Thanks.
@hichris123 What do you need?
I'm afraid I don't have (exactly) 10k reps.
 
@Cerberus Picture of deleted post.
 
Which one?
I like nothing more than passing on spam or low-quality questions to you.
 
spam. :P
(it's to check if SmokeDetector is dead or if the regex just didn't get it)
 
10:55 PM
@Cerberus Nothing?
 
thanks
 
@Robusto I'm trying to think of something...but this is just so satisfying.
> Headless chatbot that detects spam and posts it to chatrooms.
@hichris123 Oh, lovely, a bot that posts spam in chat, just what we needed...
 
If you're wondering what it's been posting, it's this:
Huh, all-caps should have caught that...
 
c c
11:20 PM
How do you call the phenomenon when the water is turning around, and attracting things inside the center?
 
Vortex?
 
c c
ah, yes
 
> a whirling mass of water, especially one in which a force of suction operates, as a whirlpool.
Also whirlpool.
From the Scrivener forums:
> i am still new using scrivener and know some of basics from what i seen maybe i am wrong in this that see no way breaking down my story sure there scene by and chapters but i am more thinking about events so i can break those into chapters and scenes is there a sway to do that ? i am not a plotter by nature i tend write and make things up on the go but this how need to work things out thanks for any advice
Umm, I think you need to work on other skills than plotting at this point.
 
c c
yes whirling, I saw it wordreference.com/fren/tourbillon but the examples were on tornadoes, no for water and this suction
 
@Cerberus Why are you home on a Friday night?
Ready when you are, CB.
 
@hichris123 oh that looks handy.
@Mahnax you should.
Consider it, I mean.
 
@KitFox Yup, we're helping to keep spam off of your site. ;) Though it seems to be dead...
 
That would explain the massive influx of spam in the last two weeks.
 
Spam never dies.
 

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