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BESW

12:12 AM

[wave]

doppelgreener

@BESW I feel like your recent answer could benefit from an "it's not unpopular" addendum

I left as much in a comment, but it's a comment

BESW

First sentence: "In some places, 4e is the community's game of choice."

Is that not sufficient?

doppelgreener

I guess it might bee!

I have just been for a run so I am still in a state of post-exercise mild delerium.

> My question is, what should I buy so that I could easily join an average group with few problems and without me having to ask too many questions?

Dunno if it's pertinent but "the average group" nowadays might not even be playing any variety of D&D. They might be playing something completely different. (Like Pathfinder!)

BESW

[snerk]

Alex P

@JonathanHobbs It's still D&D/PF based on ICV2.

doppelgreener

12:18 AM

@AlexP What's ICV2?

Alex P

It's a comic-book hobby shop report kind of thing.

doppelgreener

Oh, they've recorded the averages?

Alex P

They record sales by product lines.

So it's a bit wonky because, say, PF will win any quarter that they have more products available than 4E, and vice versa usually.

icv2.com

It's about the best measure of RPG sales we have, though. And not too bad at that.

BESW

Fall 2013 top five, for instance.

doppelgreener

@BESW Fate Core is #3 :O

Alex P

12:22 AM

D&D took a huge drubbing in the numbers ever since they, well, cut the product line.

doppelgreener

@AlexP They cut the product line?

When was that?

Alex P

@JonathanHobbs I mean they stopped making new books. It was like two years ago when they reduced the release schedule. And then they did it later again.

They're still available for sale and all.

BESW

Unfortunately my advice about talking to the FLGS owner would not be useful in my own community.

The guy knows basically nothing about any of the RPGs or TCGs he carries except what his clients tell him he should be ordering. He's not part of the community at all.

doppelgreener

@AlexP Oh right. When they stopped making new 4e books?

Alex P

Yeah

@BESW I mean, that's not necessarily bad, since he knows what his clients buy.

It can be skewed, but so can personal opinion.

BESW

12:32 AM

Well, put it this way: of the Guamanian RPG groups I know about, one plays Pathfinder, one (mine) plays Fate, one AD&D, and two 3.5.

The FLGS stocks primarily 4e.

Alex P

Yeah, the thing in the modern day is nobody really asks stores to carry stuff. They just order online. At least in the mainland US.

The Oracle

12:53 AM

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Q: Should we be encouraging askers to remove system tags if their question is relevant to a broader category?

In this recent answer, SSD stated the following: In fact, we have a community custom where, when people ask a generally-applicable question where it seems the system is merely secondary, we will advise them to remove any system tags so that the question gets wider viewing. I've seen this pr...

doppelgreener

1:34 AM

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A: Has anyone created or found stats for Lloyd Slate in the Dresden Files RPG?

If you have the Our World manual, Lloyd Slate is on pages 227-228. He's got a total Refresh cost of -11! (There's a note on his character block which points out Slate wasn't seen in combat in the case files, so his combat abilities are based on educated guesses.)

@BESW Whoa. Does that mean the stuff he has costs 11 refresh, or his refresh is at -11?

BESW

@JonathanHobbs His refresh is at -11.

doppelgreener

@BESW Wow.

BESW

At least, I think that's the way it is. I'd have to double-check.

Lord_Gareth

1:53 AM

Man, I am having a lot of fun as the only good-aligned character in this mostly-evil party.

Get attacked by a giant, flying, earth-gliding acidic anglerfish

Bitten, swallowed whole, crushed against the stone wall twice

Cut own way out

Land on the ground in a shower of acidic gore at less than 30% of max hit points, look up, first words out of mouth are, "Is everyone else okay?"

2

Poor Krystal's had a rough life. She's existed for a little over a month and it's pretty much sucked for 100% of it.

And it probably doesn't help that she's intimately aware that a powerfully evil god wants her dead in a very big way

Metool

uh what

Lord_Gareth

@Metool Mrr?

Metool

A little over a month, you say.

Lord_Gareth

@Metool Yep.

Krys's origins are a liiiiitle complicated.

Aforementioned powerfully evil god was at one point an archmagus of some note, capable of continent-shattering spells which she used to get her way whenever she bothered to want something.

Said mage made a god angry, and it sent an aleax

The aleax sent a simulacrum. The mage mistook the simulacrum for the aleax and made an ice assassin of it

In the resulting four-way magical battle the sorceress possessed the aleax to gain invulnerability...but not before it unveiled a mirror of opposition

Something...*snapped*

And Krystal was the result.

Metool

2:10 AM

Jesus Christ.

Lord_Gareth

In a desperation move, the gods deified the sorceress to trap her outside the Material

Which leaves Krystal as her only remaining weakness - a link back to her which can be exploited by sympathetic magic

In a very real way, Krystal is a knife aimed right at her black, shriveled little heart

And Krystal knows this and is desperately trying to stay alive

These are very, very recent events. Krys is on the run with hell on her heels and she knows it, and she's frantically seeking some method of murdering the sorceress so that she can have a chance at really having her own life.

And to end her evil

Metool

Amazing.

Lord_Gareth

@Metool ...Really?

Metool

I'm just trying to work out how the origin story should look, starting with looking up the aleax.

Lord_Gareth

An aleax is an avatar of divine wrath, a fragment of a god that they send to punish someone who has offended them.

The aleax takes on the form of its victim, but enhances itself in various ways

And is only vulnerable to attacks from its victim; it is proof against all other harm or hindrance

Metool

2:17 AM

[nodnod]

Lord_Gareth

So she's a copy of a copy of a copy possessed by the original, and all of it went down in a spot where the planar boundaries are thin as tissue paper

She's not entirely certain what she is.

It doesn't help that when she uses magic to ask if she has a soul the result doesn't come up 'yes' or 'no'; the spell fizzles and sputters

Forrestfire

iirc, there wasn't a simulacrum, just the mage making an ice assassin of her aleax

at least in the original discussion where the backstory was written

she's also got a piece of an Omniscificer soul locked in her head by accident

Lord_Gareth

@Forrestfire This part is kind of important; it's why she's trying to play the games of gods and sorcerers in the first place.

Forrestfire

(One of the campaign macguffins are a group of artifacts called 'shards of Prophecy', made when someone concocted a method of learning everything way back when)

(he exploded)

(dramatically)

(his soul's bits stuck around and give divination powers)

Lord_Gareth

So yeah, it's kinda like that.

She joined with the party because the omniscient voice in her head said they have answers for her

Only to figure out that they're evil and casually murderous

She's had some...ethical challenges, since

Metool

4:37 AM

@Lord_Gareth Leadership or no?

Lord_Gareth

@Metool in what sense?

Metool

The feat, on Iry-Hor, Warlord 7.

Lord_Gareth

@Metool I'm really sure that's between you and your DM

Metool

Yes, and naturally I'm going to ask, but I want to know if you consider it too much.

Lord_Gareth

@Metool There are very few cases where I don't consider leadership to be too much, frankly. It might be thematically appropriate, but...I mean, there's other ways

Metool

4:44 AM

Not sure what those are.

Besides asking, of course.

Lord_Gareth

@Metool Well, Wild Cohort comes to mind as an example, but that's animals only so maybe no dice on the concept.

Either way, you can 'lead' your party just fine with Golden Lion, the teamwork feat thing, etc

Metool

[nod]

Metool

7:52 AM

Heyo, @Magician!

BESW

[wave]

Magician

Hello

Murch

9:39 AM

Hey guys

Btw. I had my twosie on Friday and it was great. :D

Metool

Sweet.

@Murch How'd that go?

Murch

Well, we were playing Shadowrun. It was pretty sweet, because usually you try to keep actions mostly to planes that all players have access (i.e. physical world), but since I could concentrate on my one player, for the first time ever, I got to play Matrix-Interactions.

He liked the story I had written and found out most of the bits and pieces.

We played eight hours or so. :)

Metool

Awesome.

Murch

9:55 AM

We had extensively discussed further plot hooks and contacts his character had, but ended up disregarding all of the information, because he focussed on the task he was hired to do. :)

Only one shot fired. ;)

Metool

I hope it was to shoot out a lock.

Murch

No, it was pretty to the end. Our protagonist had discovered the lost person he was sent to seek, unfortunately already deceased at that point. While he was waiting for his contractor's people to come and take the body into custody, two goons of the opposition arrived to clear out the evidence.

He managed to hack into their car and drive it off the pier with one of the goons, but the other was then searching for him wielding an assault rifle.

The protagonist was in hiding close-by and decided to hit first. He shot one round of stick-and-shot (taser ammunition one could say), and scored a critical hit.

Metool

Ah, lovely.

Murch

The goon was knocked out, not killed.

Actually, now that I think about it, the goon had been looking for him, and failing to find the hacker responsible for his comrade driving off the pier, he was starting to bash in the window of the car the body was lying in. When the protagonist stunned him, an incendiary grenade dropped from the goon's hand and instead of being tossed into the car to burn the evidence, it bounced a few meters off the side. :)

Anyway, my friend really liked it, too, so I think we will have this happen again. :D

Metool

Coolness.

Murch

10:12 AM

Unfortunately, I stole the story. ;) I had visited a Convention a few weeks ago, and adapted one story I got to play there slightly.

BESW

10:50 AM

@LorryMcPorry Hi!

Lorry McPorry

Hello there

Murch

Hi Lorry

Lorry McPorry

So, playing anything interesting lately?

BESW

Been putting together a setting for a Fate Core campaign, inspired by a fizzled-out D&D 3.5 campaign from a few years ago.

It's been a lot of fun ripping out the D&D undercarriage.

Metool

[rolls]

Lorry McPorry

10:59 AM

/me googles Fate Core

Wow this looks kinda cool, so it's something like GURPS right?

never heard of it, such is life in Spain.

Metool

It's... not quite like GURPS, is it?

BESW

Main site with free pdf downloads, system reference document, and quick chat conversation outlining the mechanics.

Lorry McPorry

Thing is that when my friends and I get exposed to inches and feet we freak out haha

That's why it sucks not to have core books in spanish

BESW

Fate doesn't care about that kind of measurement.

It's like GURPS in that it can handle most any kind of setting, but in other ways it's very much unlike.

Fate is fiction-first, meaning that it provides generic mechanical tools for describing what's happening, rather than lists of specific mechanics for you to look through to find the one which best fits your needs.

Lorry McPorry

Noice, looks like the perfect setting for a campaign I've always wanted to do about everyday humans in the present time with slight magic powers

Although right now I'm about to start a Pathfinder campaign, but I'm fukken' saving that.

BESW

11:09 AM

Fate would probably do pretty well for that.

Metool

11:27 AM

"Of course, at that point you’re a part of an outright criminal conspiracy, which may be a plus or minus depending on your preferences." - anonymous, on anonymous open development of My Little Pony fan games

Don't you just love IP law?

BESW

Not really, no.

I believe I mentioned the phone/tablet rooting dichotomy a day or two ago?

Metool

You did!

BESW

11:43 AM

And I'll take the opportunity to link this again, too.

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Lord_Gareth

[Crawls forth from the blackest pit of Hell, panting and heaving, to collapse upon the cool and loving earth of the world of Men once more]

Mornin'

BESW

@Lord_Gareth, @JonathanHobbs, @fredley Hi!

doppelgreener

@BESW hi! I'm watching that thing. I've never watched it in full.

fredley

@BESW hi!

Greetings from ChatSEy!

Lord_Gareth

A BLUE NAME!

fredley

11:50 AM

Your RPG styles are too !important

@Lord_Gareth that it be

Lord_Gareth

Excuse me while I go sacrifice a black she-goat in your honor. Where to find one at this time of the morning...

BESW

@fredley So, does anything in particular bring you to this little corner of chatdom?

Lord_Gareth

(Don't mind me, I'm in a bit of a mood this morning)

BESW

@Lord_Gareth This morning?

Lord_Gareth

@BESW As opposed to waxing philosophic yesterday?

fredley

11:52 AM

@BESW your stylesheet

I'm making a better mobile chat app, and your styles do not play nice

doppelgreener

@BESW That was a splendid piece of work.

BESW

@fredley Aw. Aesthetically it's rather brill, but I am eager for more mobile SE.

Lord_Gareth

I find myself indifferent to this event.

doppelgreener

@fredley Oh my. Lots more !important marks than other chat style sheets?

BESW

@Lord_Gareth The Fairy Nuff mutters something about "wax on, wax off."

fredley

11:55 AM

@JonathanHobbs Lots

doppelgreener

Have you considered completely ignoring our style sheet and making your own, if this still uses all the same elements?

Oh. Wait, that'd completely break your app if they change stuff.

fredley

@JonathanHobbs Not that simple

@JonathanHobbs and besides, there are other bad rooms, so best to just do a general fix

Lord_Gareth

Our room isn't bad, it just comes from a rough background.

2

It just needs some love and someone to believe in it.

fredley

What alignment is this room?

BESW

Thank you, @Lord_Gareth, I was about to feel out of my depth.

@fredley Whimsical Good.

fredley

11:58 AM

@BESW Hah

Lord_Gareth

@fredley Red/White

Well, I suppose I should say White/Red

Since the rare bout of knives-out-blood-flying hatefests are the exception and not the rule.

Thanks in large part to folks like @BESW and @JonathanHobbs

(What now color alignment)

[Crabwalks away]

Metool

Idunno, I feel a bit orange.

BESW

@Lord_Gareth I'm just going to assume you look like Apophis now.

Lord_Gareth

In all seriousness @fredley, imagine a topic with as much conflict as politics or religion, none of the social mores that permit polite discussion, and large groups of people who believe that the other groups are 'poisoning' their hobby and must be crushed beneath the merciless fist of their own paradigm lest the entire system come crashing down.

Now put them all in this chat.

That there is polite and reasonable discussion at all is an event we should be calling up the Pope over.

BESW

@Lord_Gareth [blink] Wait, what? That's never been this chat. Certain parts of the wider community, yes.

Lord_Gareth

12:07 PM

@BESW I was speaking of RPG players in general, @BESW

fredley

Is this why you don't have blue names in here?

Lord_Gareth

@BESW Also need I remind you of some of the in-chat screaming matches with Myx? Knives-out is rare here but it still happens. For that matter, there was the disaster with Zach

@fredley We used to have Brian in here all the time but IRL punched him in the face. Myx floats in every now and again but frankly I'm happy with him remaining absent. He seems to think that chat exempts him from acting polite or professional.

C.Ross is sometimes around and is a cool frood

BESW

@Lord_Gareth This chat will occasionally get two, maybe three people upset at each other. It doesn't last and it doesn't snowball.

fredley

@BESW Haha. You should come to the Bridge one day

doppelgreener

@Lord_Gareth Somehow we have cultivated a wonderful place where everyone recognises that everyone has wildly different perspectives on this hobby, and that others aren't wrong for it. (For the most part.)

BESW

12:10 PM

@fredley I'll stay in the Happy Fun Pony Land, thanks.

fredley

Especially if MLP/doge is being discussed

@BESW It's okay, the anti-pony brigade needs support

BESW

@fredley Many pastel. Much franchise. So pony?

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doppelgreener

2

my day is made

BESW

We've got people in this chat who run MLP games, so... yeah. We don't generally have MLP-specific conversations out of that context, because we know not everyone feels okay about it, but when ponies are on topic they're on topic.

Lord_Gareth

@JonathanHobbs My general point being that this is in spite of the general trend in the RPG community for full-scale warfare involving hostage-taking, weapons of mass destruction, wedgies, and torture in flagrant violation of the Geneva Convention

Metool

12:15 PM

@Lord_Gareth <Ember> The MLP fandom? Yeah.

Lord_Gareth

@Metool Ahahahahaha

Metool

Not even kidding, this blit goes down all over tumblr, facebook, etc.
<Ember> Circles of the internet's more socially-engaged hierarchy.

doppelgreener

I wonder if it has something to do with the fact you are strictly only ever allowed to answer questions on the main site, and arguments get burninated liberally.

And everyone realises "hey this other way of doing things kinda works."

"and sometimes works better than my way of doing things."

BESW

I do love the "Stack Exchange as social experiment" thing, and the learning that's coming from it.

doppelgreener

(Now I wonder if this is why we have such a highly active comment burnination squad)

Lord_Gareth

12:17 PM

@JonathanHobbs The burnination very definitely helps. Most other sites have this vague 'no flaming' rule that ends up with the mods selectively getting rid of arguments and supporting one play style or posting style over another.

Which is how GitP evolved its hyper-advanced passive aggression and, as a result, began attracting the internet equivalent of the WBC

BESW

@Lord_Gareth I am Sam. Sam I am. I do not like trolls, flames, or spam.

Lord_Gareth

Where they bait you into finally losing your temper, and then you get banned.

BESW

....moving on.

doppelgreener

@Lord_Gareth Yes! Can't really pick apart an argument without taking the whole thread down with it, and places people are arguing they're just going to argue in again. This place however puts answers first and foremost, where no debate can occur, and for everything else, the mods can just happily do this:

Lord_Gareth

So, Weird Al Yankovic wrote the song that is essentially the Lawful Evil National Anthem.

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BESW

12:19 PM

Lord_Gareth

@BESW Damnit I was drinking milk

BESW

@Lord_Gareth Are you saying I should've used the gif version?

doppelgreener

@BESW Perhaps not but I am!

BESW

@JonathanHobbs have a video instead

Lord_Gareth

@BESW No but I am musing aloud, wondering how that nuke isn't fired any time I enter the chat.

BESW

12:23 PM

@Lord_Gareth Have you honestly missed the frequency with which I call you out?

[grin]

Lord_Gareth

@BESW No, this one feels the hissing sting of your righteousness often. But soon I will destroy the Book of Solomon and...wait, wrong plotline.

BESW

@Lord_Gareth It's weird, but I generally find that Weird Al does a lot better with his direct parodies.

Lord_Gareth

@BESW That is a parody. Rage Against the Machine

BESW

[quick Google] Ah, that would explain why I don't recognise them.

Metool

It's not immediately obvious, having heard both, but it's there.

doppelgreener

12:25 PM

@BESW Thenk you.

BESW

But it's a style parody, and while those are usually better than his original stuff... I stand by what I said about direct parodies of specific being generally superior.

It's like he needs the added structure in order to do his best work.

doppelgreener

I bring to y'all a quest to destroy a lich (or a liche).

Metool

@BESW It's... pretty much Bulls On Parade, if I'm not mistaken. Just sort of flipped.

BESW

@Metool Wiki says style parody

Metool

Curious.

BESW

12:28 PM

@JonathanHobbs "Liche"? Is that Spanish for zombie milk?

Metool

Yeah I'm just hearing part of it. Whoops.

doppelgreener

@BESW Close enough.

BESW

@JonathanHobbs ...I had that dream once.

Murch

@BESW Ha, that is great!

BESW

Except it wasn't his hat. It was a Fabergé egg in his bedroom.

doppelgreener

12:30 PM

@BESW Oh wow.

BESW

Hmm. I might be able to scrounge up the dream log on that...

Oh, okay, I was wrong. It was the Anti-Pope in the Vatican, because he'd beheaded the real Pope. And the real Pope's still-alive head sent me into the Vatican to steal his signet ring which was hidden in a Fabergé egg.

My dream log contains the phrase "Sadly, I had overestimated my ability to recognize Faberge eggs on sight and the Anti-Pope had a vast collection of egg sculpture."

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Murch

hehe

BESW

Then Dumbledore showed up to help me find the right egg. Because hey, maybe the Doctor was busy?

"He asked me questions to which I already knew the answers, but they helped anyway and I figured out which egg was the Faberge (it was filigree-carved pink porfori marble, six inches high, and really heavy)."

> Once the Pope's head had his Signet Ring, he was able to absorb the Anti-Pope's soul into his own, and then died, thus taking the Anti-Pope's soul up to Heaven to be redeemed. For being a Pope, he was kinda vindictive about the redemption part. Had a good evil laugh, though.
> On reflection, the Anti-Pope was a nice-seeming fat little old man. A bit befuddled, but not evil at all. The Pope's head was a bit manic. Perhaps I was taken in and lied to about which was the real Pope and which the Anti-Pope... not something that occurred to me in the dream itself.

(And don't ask me how a disembodied head wears a signet ring.)

Metool

@BESW Shoved really firmly into one nostril?

BESW

[peruses old dream log] I didn't keep this very carefully, but man was I dreaming some weird stuff ten years ago.

Metool

12:39 PM

As upper left?

BESW

That seems reasonable!

@Murch Glad you liked it.

> I am a hobo. Rags for clothes and worn-out shoes on my feet. The most comfortable place to sleep is on the railway ties--right between the tracks. As traincars whoosh just three inches above my nose, I hope that I don't sleepwalk.

BESW

12:53 PM

Hey, @JonathanHobbs, has your group responded to the Create Advantage thing I suggested?

BESW

1:03 PM

> Modern-day London. The streets are packed with people and dirigibles drift slowly overhead. With a whistle and a sickening chunk sound, a twenty-foot javelin skewers the woman next to me. As hundreds more spears drop from the floating ships, the crowds panic. They scream as they run for cover: "The Luftwaffe!"

Lord_Gareth

1:50 PM

@BESW - I just realized - Princess Twilight Sparkle fights like a dragon

She's a full spellcaster, right?

doppelgreener

@BESW not yet

Lord_Gareth

And after being trained by her friends her melee attack routine goes hoof/hoof/bite/wing/wing/applebuck

BESW

@Lord_Gareth So you're saying Princesses have a full complement of natural attacks? I think she gets a gore attack with the horn, too.

Lord_Gareth

@BESW I figured she wouldn't risk breaking the source of her full casting.

BESW

Hmm. Aside from King Never-Seen-Again, I don't think I've ever even seen a hint of a broken horn...

Metool

2:03 PM

@Lord_Gareth Is a spell-to-power erudite a full caster?

I love having StackExchange to ask questions in game prep.

Lord_Gareth

2:23 PM

@Metool Pretty sure yeah.

lisardggY

Good morning.

ish.

Phorden

6:33 PM

hm, the chat room is a bit dead today.

lisardggY

It is.

Zachiel

6:55 PM

If D&D 4e is accused of leaving the DM alone when it comes to out of combat rules... why is Vampires "the best narrative game out there"?

lisardggY

Whose quote is that?

I don't know much about Vampire these days, but back when it came out, it was revolutionary in putting the focus on moral and interpersonal conflicts, rather than physical and combat conflicts, and thus made it much more oriented to writing that sort of narrative.

The mechanics encouraged that.

wax eagle

Right, 4e does roleplay by mechanical exclusion, do whatever you want roleplaywise, games oriented towards narrative play include incentives and mechanics that promote that sort of play

lisardggY

There's a common sentiment (agree or disagree at your leisure) that combat isn't part of the narrative - you spend an hour or two every session on something that will take up two sentences if outlined in the narrative.

Thus, games that focus on combat (where D&D is the obvious candidate) are thus not narrative oriented.

Which I personally disagree with, because I think the narrative is the universal driving force behind all roleplaying games.

Even Lair Assault-style tactical games still wrap a narrative around themselves.

wax eagle

@lisardggY its a matter of where systems choose to place their incentives though. D&D has narrative, but all the incentives are oriented towards combat

lisardggY

But the choice of mechanics and focus in a game certainly affects how the game time is split between the narrative and other elements of play.

@waxeagle 'xactly.

I just think "the best narrative game out there" is a very poorly defined concept, since it simply treats the D&D-style Heroic champions narrative that is often paused for tactical combat as "bad narrative", rather than "focusing both on narrative and other elements".

Zachiel

7:26 PM

@lisardggY Just a tought I had today

@lisardggY All the Vampire mechanics I know are about numbers and combat powers

lisardggY

@Zachiel Vampire, at least the oWoD game I'm familiar with, had mechanical elements including Nature and Demeanor, which were a better, archetype-based alternative to alignments in order to have snap descriptions of personalities. They had the Humanity score, determined by how much your character let his vampiric needs and desires overcome his human/moral side. It had many non-combat powers.

Having numbers and skills and scores doesn't mean it's not narrative, if those numbers and skills and scores are there to encourage interpersonal interactions, rather than combat.

Vampire had its Humanity score, which said that the game is about keeping your humanity - or else. D&D has hit points, which pulls focus to combat as the main stress track. Call of Cthulhu, for instance, has Sanity, which makes the focus of the game about investigations and uncovering secrets.

Zachiel

7:42 PM

Every vampire player I've talked with told me that nobody uses humanity because it leads to "you're not playing to your alignment"-type discussions. Maybe those players were biased and part of the same subculture, but that's what I know about vampire. I've played WoD myself and the sins/virtues system felt forced to me.

lisardggY

In the vampire games I've played, the humanity track was the driving motivator for the plots. Not necessarily because we scratched off a box on the character sheet and said "Oh, my humanity is down to 3, I'll be a bit more feral now", but simply because its very existence there nudged us to play characters who struggle with their inner demons - that was the point of the game - rather than just "Ok, I have fangs and powers, cool, now what?"

I was given to understand that nWoD vampire shifted focus from personal angst and conflicts and more to political maneuvering and plotting, but back in the 90's, we saw it mostly as a vehicle to play the kinds of stories that D&D characters weren't meant to tell.

On a side note, I'm glad people finally logged in here to help me procrastinate. :)

I've get a slide deck and a lecture to prepare for tomorrow and I'm wasting time gloriously.

wax eagle

8:03 PM

@lisardggY I posted a link to a wonderfully creepy short story in the bar if you're interested in wasting slightly more time.

lisardggY

@waxeagle I did.

Zachiel

[Throws a fishing line and drags @Lord_Gareth up from the deepest of hells] This time you're out for free. [ = "hello" ]

lisardggY

8:24 PM

You all are quiet for 10 minutes, and I have to more slides and 10 more minutes of talk added. Seriously, with this attitude, I might actually get some sleep tonight. Irresponsible!

Lord_Gareth

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