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12:00 AM
These are all just commonly shared Proto-Indo-European roots.
 
I think you are righgt :)
 
Yay!
In fact, it is the striking similarities between Greek and Sanskrit that gave birth to comparative linguistics; Sir William Jones was the first to imagine a common origin for the Indo-European languages, in a way.
Sir William Jones (28 September 1746 – 27 April 1794) was an English philologist and scholar of ancient India, particularly known for his proposition of the existence of a relationship among Indo-European languages. He was also the founder of the Asiatic Society. Biography Jones was born in London at Beaufort Buildings, Westminster; his father (also named William Jones) was a mathematician from Anglesey in Wales, noted for devising the use of the symbol pi. The young William Jones was a linguistic prodigy, learning Greek, Latin, Persian, Arabic, Hebrew and the basics of Chinese w...
 
12:14 AM
Very interesting. Thanks for the info. I must read abt him
 
 
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2:02 AM
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Q: Euphemisms for the act of defecation?

brachomonachoSome of my favourite euphemisms for the act of 'pooing' include: Growing a tail Having a bog Dropping the kids off at the pool Laying cable for Telstra (telecommunications provider) Giving birth to some brown twins Negotiating the release of the chocolate hostages Downloading some brownware. ...

Clean-up on Aisle 7?
 
2:14 AM
Um. Yeah.
@Robusto, can you make heads or tails of Jeff's latest comment on your spurious flags question?
I mean, I know we're strange and everything, but I don't know of anything peculiar about how EL&U is moderated. Is there?
 
 
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9:34 AM
@Martha: I think he may have used "peculiar" to mean "bad" ... that's the only conclusion I can draw. But I think the behavior is definitely a bug. However lax the moderating may be — to permit the flag count to get up to 70 or even 100 — the fact is that's a separate issue. if I'm not a moderator it should only show me the number of flags I can actually moderate.
 
 
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11:07 AM
 
8 spider's legs missing from picture #2
 
Jez
lol
 
11:25 AM
@Vitaly — Maybe that spider just rolled itself into a ball.
 
11:43 AM
 
hahaha @ the headline
and really, idk whats the point of google-
they should of continued developin wave
 
Subhead is funny too.
 
i guess i meant the wedding charts, the subhead or whatever it is
 
That is the subhead.
The head is "More Like Google Minus"
BTW, in journalism, these story elements have specialized spellings: hed, subhed, lede (lead), graf (paragraph), etc.
 
Kit
12:17 PM
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A: It's raining today or it's rainy today?

Ham and BaconIt's raining today is basically used to tell someone its going to rain today. e.g. It's raining today, so you will need an umbrella. However, I doubt if it can be used in a present form to mean that it is raining presently. If you want to state it is raining presently, use "It's raining at the mo...

So I dinged Ham and Eggs on this answer because I feel it is very, very wrong.
 
Jez
I thought it was Ham and chips
 
Kit
Ham and cheese?
Cheese and eggs? Mmmm. An omelet would be delicious right now.
 
Jez
by the way, has anyone else noticed the black bar along the top of the screen Google has inserted?
 
How complicated does it need to be? Talking about the weather is basic English so the answers shouldn't be too elaborate.
 
Kit
Yes.
It's primarily this: "It's raining today is basically used to tell someone its going to rain today. e.g. It's raining today, so you will need an umbrella. However, I doubt if it can be used in a present form to mean that it is raining presently."
that I find objectionable.
That's the first part of his answer, and it's been accepted.
And it's just wrong.
 
12:25 PM
@Kit I think you're right, Bacon's answer is backwards.
 
I agree. It's enough to make me swear off pork products.
 
Kit
@Robusto Heaven forfend!
 
Jez
damn this feta cheese is strong
never going to be able to eat all of it
 
Kit
If the boy goats get in with the girl goats, it makes the feta pretty tough to take.
Very fragrant.
At least, according to the woman I know who used to raise goats.
 
@Kit — This may be more than I want to know about goats or feta.
 
12:27 PM
Excuse me, err what?!
 
Kit
She said she found out the hard way.
 
Anyone interested in taking a look at chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/674/… ?
 
Kit
Hey, I went there by accident this morning. I didn't read though.
 
@Vitaly — No baby pictures. Don't make me tap the sign.
 
12:34 PM
@Kit ... and upvoted and now defended! Pork master's English is pretty crazy good for a second language but when he makes mistakes it's pretty spectacular. I've seen this happen before when he got something exactly backwards.
 
Kit
@Caleb English is not his second language. He makes mistakes because he's a hot-headed teenager.
 
Jez
he's Australian. I think it is his second language...
 
@Kit Huh. I seem to recall it it coming up on one of his previous mistakes that he wasn't a native speaker.
 
Kit
@Caleb He confabulates frequently.
 
@Caleb — I think @RegDwight sets the standard for NNS mastery.
 
12:38 PM
@Robusto — Sorry. Wanna some cookies?
 
Kit
Looks like a pancake.
@Robusto NNS?
 
@Vitaly — Thanks. You're helping my diet.
 
Kit
Oh, never mind.
 
Non-native speaker.
 
Yum!
 
12:40 PM
Prefer baby pictures. :|
 
Kit
@Robusto You can see deleted stuff, right?
 
He too often plays the harpy to our Phineas: "Phineas, a king of Thrace, had the gift of prophecy. Zeus, angry that Phineas revealed too much, punished him by blinding him and putting him on an island with a buffet of food which he could never eat. The harpies always arrived and stole the food out of his hands before he could satisfy his hunger, and befouled the remains ...." [Wikipedia]
@Kit — Ayup.
 
Jez
@Vitaly What in Jesu's name?
 
@Robusto But why is Zeus punishing us? We have never predicted the future.
 
@z7sg — Zeus works in strange ways, his wonders to perform.
 
12:43 PM
Well, unless you guys have been prophesizing while my back was turned....
 
Kit
@Robusto There was a comment to Caleb in H&B's answer on that question from a user named RG., who replied that he would "change his answer." Now it's under H&B's user name. Can you look and see if the other comment is deleted?
I wonder if our little friend is smurfing.
 
@Kit — Link?
 
Kit
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A: It's raining today or it's rainy today?

Ham and Bacon"It's raining today" is understood to mean that it is raining presently. Not necessarily at the instant of talking, but it has rained previously, and it will rain again later. "It's rainy today" depends on whether the 's is a was or a is. If it's a was, then it is stating that today has been wet...

In these comments.
 
Oh, I'm sorry. I misunderstood. I can see deleted answers, but not deleted comments.
 
Insects are rich in proteins, easy to breed, and come in different flavours. With human population skyrocketing, you'd better get used to roasted, fried, mashed, and boiled insects.
 
12:45 PM
@Vitaly — You're already eating them if you buy processed foods.
 
Kit
@Robusto Frig. Can anyone see deleted comments?
 
I think mods can.
 
Kit
@Robusto Hmm. Kosmonaut?
 
@Vitaly hey, for once we actually agree
 
This just get's better. Ham's new edited answer has another major English mistake.
 
Kit
12:47 PM
@Vitaly I think I could do mashed. I imagine it would be a lot like bean paste. High in protein.
 
it would be easier if they didn't tell me what it was ahead of time. that's how i ate (and enjoyed) horse meat
 
Kit
Ooo. I love TED talks.
 
i enjoy TED talks in isolation, but i'm somewhat annoyed by them in aggregate
 
@Kit — He is definitely a mod.
 
Kit
12:58 PM
@Kosmonaut Can you see deleted comments? I suspect we may have a smurf in our midst.
@JSBangs That looks very interesting. I'll have to finish it over lunch; I only got about halfway through.
 
mmm lunch… locust flakes?
 
Kit
@JSBangs youtube.com/watch?v=r9LCwI5iErE This one is my favorite.
 
@Kit @Dori is in chat to, maybe she can see.
 
@Vitaly don't forget to eat them with honey
 
1:13 PM
Keerist: "@Graham Borland, this site is unfortunately for "linguists, etymologists, and (serious) English language enthusiasts", and questions have to be relevant. Unfortunately, I am closing it. – Ham and Bacon "
First, it is not unfortunately for linguists, etymologists, and (serious) English enthusiasts — not unless this whole thing was a tragic error on StackExchange's part. Second, he is not closing the question, he is voting to close the question.
 
@Robusto The princess bride comes to mind. "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
 
He should have mentioned that he “doesn't believe in evolution.”
 
yesterday, by Rhodri
Meanwhile 3i is approaching 10k on the back of being mostly wrong, or cribbing earlier answers. Sometimes I despair.
 
Kit
yesterday, by Robusto
"Praises of the unworthy are felt by ardent minds as robberies of the deserving." — Coleridge
 
Maybe when he gets to 10k he'll get bored and fly off?
 
Kit
1:17 PM
@Vitaly Someday I will find out if he "believes in gravity." I know I don't. It's just a theory after all.
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@z7sg — I don't think life works that way.
@Kit — I didn't know malware could look like that.
Seriously, much more of this and I'm going to stop showing up.
 
Kit
Don't say that. We're all lots of fun, right?
Don't let one or two or half a dozen apples spoil the whole damn bunch.
Maybe this will cheer you up...
 
@Robusto Don't do that. Maybe talk to the mods or bring the difficulty dealing with certain things in meta, but if all the good folks leave it will get worse not better.
 
@Kit — You guys are definitely fun. But I don't want to be around when this place becomes a travesty. I mean, who wants to be associated with an upside-down world where bad and wrong answers are consistently rewarded?
 
@Kit i don't believe in gravity. at least not the version promulgated by that quack Newton
 
1:26 PM
@JSBangs — It's turtles all the way down, right?
 
Kit
@JSBangs F*ckin' right. Einstein knows where it's at.
 
@Kit wins by getting it :)
 
Kit
@Robusto You already are. It's called Earth.
 
fuck Newton. everything he ever wrote was later proved wrong
 
Kit
@JSBangs Yes! Go me!
@JSBangs I eat his goddamn apple. Pfah!
 
1:27 PM
He got these right.
 
Kit
@Robusto And calculus.
 
Well, some say he cribbed calculus from Leibniz.
 
the calculus we have today is very different from Newton's calculus
 
The calculus controversy was an argument between 17th-century mathematicians Isaac Newton and Gottfried Leibniz (begun or fomented in part by their disciples and associates – see Development of the quarrel below) over who had first invented calculus. It is a question that had been the cause of a major intellectual controversy over who first discovered calculus, one that began simmering in 1699 and broke out in full force in 1711. Newton claimed to have begun working on a form of the calculus (which he called "the method of fluxions and fluents") in 1666, but did not publish it except...
 
Kit
Hey, look, Leibniz nabbed Pascal's calculator, so let's just say it's a draw.
 
1:29 PM
IIRC Newton didn't actually have the concept of a "limit", which made his original theory much less robust. that had to be developed later
 
@Kit — Wait, are you saying Newton did all his programming in Pascal?
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Kit
@Robusto — Wait, are you saying that Newton and Pascal were lovers?
 
I program in various languages, but we're just friends. No romantic involvement.
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@Robusto Heh. Once again I show up to discover that Robusto has already done the venting I wanted to do. I feel all pre-vented.
 
Jez
"Just by the way, I'll like you to look into this, and see what's write or wrong"
does he do this on purpose? :-)
 
1:31 PM
back on-topic, is Piggy really being that problematic? i'm looking over his recent answers, and for the most part they're reasonable and correct
 
@JSBangs Now check the edits. They start out as mostly wrong, then get corrected as correct answers appear.
 
@Rhodri — I'm here to help.
 
Kit
@Jez I think he's a smurfing troll. Or a trolling smurf.
Hey, anybody want to give Robusto his tenth star, so he can get a shiny badge today to cheer him up?
 
if he's smurfing, that's a serious problem and needs to be stopped
@Kit done
 
Kit
@Dori Are you available?
 
1:34 PM
Wha?
 
Kit
@Robusto You get the Outspoken badge for ten stars on a comment.
 
Jez
what is smurfing?
 
Wow, do I get to arrest people now? Cool.
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A: What does the last two words of this phrase signify? : "This slowly becomes annoying at best"

RobustoIt means that the maximum positive quality of the subject ("this") is to be annoying; that is the most it can ever achieve. The likelihood is that it is worse than annoying, since the odds of a thing being at its best all the time are small. Often constructions like this are counterbalanced with...

 
Kit
@Jez More than one account.
 
So I just got three upvotes and an immediate downvote on this answer. Weird.
 
Kit
1:35 PM
If I'm using it correctly.
 
@Kit Not quite: you get Outspoken for ten stars from different people across all your messages (and more than ten messages)
 
@Jez Garnering votes, traffic or just general attention by using more than one moniker.
 
Kit
@Rhodri Oh, well. That's less fun. Still, I think ten stars is a first, isn't it?
 
@Kit It's still worth a celebration.
 
1:37 PM
Celebrations are a chocolate collection made by Mars, Incorporated, comprising miniature versions of Mars-produced chocolate bars. After the success of Celebrations, Cadbury UK released their own version, Miniature Heroes. Contents They comprise miniature versions of the following Mars chocolates: * Mars * Bounty * Snickers * Dove / Galaxy * Dove Caramel / Galaxy Caramel * Twix * Maltesers Teaser * Milky Way The selection sold in the United Kingdom also previously contained: * Galaxy Truffle * Topic Twix replaced Galaxy Truffle in 2011. See also *Cadbury Roses *Nestlé Qualit...
 
Yeah, I got the "loudmouth" badge a long time ago. ^_^ But thanks for your support!
 
Kit
Speaking of badges, I've used up my votes twice since I started and no "Vox Populi." What gives?
 
IDK. Maybe ask in meta.
 
Kit
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Q: Why is signing a letter by hand considered more personal?

Graham BorlandWhen I first got a computer as a child, and wanted to print a letter to send to a friend, my parents told me I should sign it by hand, rather than including my name in the printed letter, as it would seem more personal. At the time, I thought this was wrong. Signing something by hand implies all...

 
I've never received that badge either, and I've used up all my votes on many occasions.
 
Kit
1:40 PM
Do you see a pattern in that question?
 
@Kit no, but we've already established that my pattern-recognition skills are very poor
 
@JSBangs — Yes. Newton's apples (or figs) were full of patterns, and you totally missed them.
 
Kit
Meh. I tired of my irritation. Let's talk of other things. Cabbages and kings, perhaps.
 
How about shoes, or ships, or sealing wax instead?
But I draw the line at cabbages and kings.
 
mmmmm cabbage. much tastier than Vitaly's bugs
 
Kit
1:46 PM
I could go with shoes or ships, but I prefer ceiling wax to sealing wax.
 
Kit
2:05 PM
<- crying Wah! I have to rewrite about five quadruply nested stored queries today. Poor me!
 
@Kit just replace them all with SELECT * FROM TABLE;
 
Kit
@JSBangs Better yet DROP TABLE;
 
yes! then your problems just go away forever
 
Kit
On second look, I might just have to rewrite two.
Looks like I anticipated my problem for the other three.
Golly. That took hardly any time at all. I'll have to take back my whining.
Apparently I knew what I was doing when I designed this thing.
 
2:28 PM
d00d, this flags notification is totally borked. it's telling me there's 24 flags, when there's none. earlier it was reporting 21 flags, and there were three
 
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Q: Spurious flag notices?

RobustoLately I go to the main page and see a large quantity of flags in the little notification box at the top of the page, like this 53 flags is a lot, right? Like, an emergency maybe? So I click on it and there is one single flagged item: What gives? Is this FAD or a bug of some kind?

 
2:45 PM
I'm crazy and I don't even see any flags!
 
@Vitaly Woohoo, it wasn't an insect!
Ew, but some of the questions there are worse than creepy-crawlies. I'm glad I missed this
 
@Rhodri — I guess this proves he does believe in evolution after all.
 
Kit
@aedia Oh my barf.
@Robusto Except that God instructed him to make those edits in exactly that order.
It was all part of His plan.
 
I bet he can't even see me :'(
You still believe in my awesome invisibility, right, guys? Right? Someone? It has been awfully quiet here lately... worried look
 
2:55 PM
@aedia omg. i had almost blocked that user from my memory
why hasn't that question been closed?
 
@JSBangs I wasn't here for all that, so I've only heard rumors. I don't even understand what that question is saying, except it seems to be maligning technical writing... which is most definitely real words, or what am I doing all day? Sometimes it's boxes of Lorem Ipsum, but there's words in there sometimes too, I think.
 
@Kit — Right around 1:30 we hear the voice of god complaining that people didn't follow his orders:
 
Kit
@Robusto Huh?
 
More like 1:16
 
@aedia Yes of course! That's why we can see you... it's because we believe in your invisible pink unicorniness.
 
Kit
3:04 PM
This is one of my favorite movie scenes.
 
@z7sg Why are invisible unicorns always pink?
 
@Rhodri — That's the default. It's a legacy issue in the code.
 
Kit
Particularly 1:39: Mandi Moore — "I am filled with Christ's love!" as she hits her with the Bible.
@Robusto No, no, no.
The Invisible Pink Unicorn (IPU) is the goddess of a parody religion used to satirize theistic beliefs, taking the form of a unicorn that is paradoxically both invisible and pink. She is a rhetorical illustration used by atheists and other religious skeptics as a contemporary version of Russell's teapot, sometimes mentioned in conjunction with the Flying Spaghetti Monster. The IPU is used to argue that supernatural beliefs are arbitrary by, for example, replacing the word God in any theistic statement with Invisible Pink Unicorn. The mutually exclusive attributes of pinkness and invisibi...
"We have faith that they are pink"
 
I dunno, I'm looking at the code right here and it says: defaultUnicornColor:{name:"defaultUnicornColor",value:"#FFC0CB"}
 
Kit
@Robusto Well, see, there's your problem, right there.
You're looking at the style sheet for the 2.0. That ain't been launched yet.
 
3:11 PM
Whoa, there's going to be a new version? Awesome!
 
Kit
Bosses say we're still on schedule for 2012, but you know how they is.
 
But that means they will default to pink.
 
@Robusto what the hell? you're coding unicorns in Objective C? there's gotta be a rule against that
 
Kit
Yeah, well, you know how it works. The pink's been working, so now they think they're helping out by making it always pink. There's gonna be spaces between paragraphs everywhere too, so watch out for that.
 
wait, maybe that was supposed to be CSS
 
Kit
3:14 PM
Hey! I just earned the Outspoken badge! That's a nice surprise for my day.
I feel witty, oh so witty. I feel witty and pretty and gay!
Well, queer, if not gay.
 
We've been starring each other with gay abandon either way.
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@JSBangs nah that's like #unicorn {"background-color:#ffffff, color:#ffcocb;"}
 
@aedia anyway, God created invisible pink unicorns to be coded in Lisp, or barring that, FORTRAN. @Robusto should know better
 
Kit
@JSBangs OMG. I was just writing nearly that same thing! Lisp and Fortran included!
 
Look, just because I was talking about starring doesn't mean you have to star it!
 
Kit
3:17 PM
FORTRAN 77.
@Rhodri kiss
 
@Kit psychic jinx, i guess
@Kit do you two want to get a chambre privee ?
 
@Kit COBOL
 
Kit
@JSBangs Get out of my head! pauses to rummage through drawer for copper foil
 
So there
 
2 days ago, by aedia
@Kosmonaut "The effectiveness of tin foil hats is disputable [CITATION NEEDED]"
 
Kit
3:18 PM
@JSBangs Nah, there were no tongues, and anyway I'm married.
@JSBangs That's tin foil. Far inferior to copper foil.
 
@JSBangs — I thought we were free to code invisible pink unicorns in whatever language we wanted. There's no One True Language.
 
@Robusto heretic! infidel! burn him! burn him!
 
2 days ago, by aedia
A tin foil hat is a piece of headgear made from one or more sheets of aluminum foil or similar material. Alternatively it may be a conventional hat lined with foil. One may wear the hat in the belief that it acts to shield the brain from such influences as electromagnetic fields, or against mind control and/or mind reading; or attempt to limit the transmission of voices directly into the brain. The concept of wearing a tin foil hat for protection from such threats has become a popular stereotype and term of derision; the phrase serves as a byword for paranoia and persecutory delusions, a...
 
@Robusto (Psst... I think JSB is one of those new-computer theorists who doesn't think I am any older than higher-level languages.)
 
@aedia define high-level language. C was considered a high-level language back in the day by virtue of not being assembly
 
3:23 PM
@Rhodri When I see people like that I just need to hold my head in my hands. The fools!
Aluminium foil offers no protection at all. They might as well just walk around with their heads uncovered!
 
@JSBangs I still have trouble persuading people that C is an excellent macro-assembler
 
I'm going to start coding invisible pink unicorns in assembly language, the way God intended.
 
Kit
@Robusto God intended for you to use dissembly language for invisible pink unicorns.
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@JSBangs Definition: anything that's not assembly.
 
@JSBangs Off the top of my head I'd only actually call assembly and machine code low-level
 
3:28 PM
@Kit — But my dissembler doesn't create working code.
 
@z7sg Actually its worse than that. They make themselves more vulnerable to the Powers That Be!
 
Kit
@Robusto Are you sure?
 
I don't remember what bucket they put it in when I was in school. Wikipedia seems to support the idea that people now may call it low-level (for the same reasons we had to learn it, to implement bloody garbage collection ourselves and all that...)
 
@Rhodri "It requires no stretch of the imagination to conclude that the current helmet craze is likely to have been propagated by the Government, possibly with the involvement of the FCC." Crikey!
 
Whoops. Not actual bloody garbage collection. Though I do hate bathroom trash cans that time of the month.
 
Kit
3:31 PM
@aedia Eew. Grody.
 
@aedia actually, that does sound like the sort of job i'd use C for. gawd knows you couldn't trust Java to do something important like that
 
@JSBangs Oh, I know! It'd let the disgusting stuff pile up and overflow...
 
@aedia C# might work so long as everyone implements IDisposable properly
 
@aedia You can nag it as much as you like... it only actually cleans the heap when it feels like it.
 
Kit
You know, I think my comment about invisible unicorns and dissembly language was underappreciated. It's really quite clever if you think about it.
So think about it!
 
3:38 PM
@JSBangs I never really got the hang of C#. It's like Java but uglier (if that's possible).
 
@aedia what?! C# is like Java infused with the power of unicorns and awesome
 
@Kit Hah! My brain had corrected it to disassembly. Dissembly is much funnier.
@JSBangs Maybe once you actually learn to read it.
 
Kit
@aedia Thank you. I am suitably mollified.
 
@aedia what's the actual problem? it reads just like every single other C-family language out there
 
Kit
@JSBangs I think that's her point.
 
3:41 PM
@JSBangs Well, in reality, I stopped programming daily. So now when I pick anything up it's like pulling teeth.
 
Except you need the .Net framework to run C#.
 
Yes that too. I hate .Net.
 
@JSBangs Noooo.... and what's more you can tell it's horrible simply by the volume of questions about it on SO.
 
@Kit Ack. I hypercorrected too. Have a belated star.
 
@Robusto or mono. my open-source linguistics project runs on mono (phonix.googlecode.com)
d00d, what's with all the haterz here?
 
3:42 PM
C# is like Java, except it's write once, run only on Windows.
 
@JSBangs And it doesn't, quite. It's like Java ate C++ and vomited something horrible out.
 
@Robusto did you not read my comment about mono? i regularly write C# on my Ubuntu laptop
 
Kit
@aedia .Net is our friend. What else will you catch .Dreams with?
 
@JSBangs — StackOverflow is the C# site. This is EL&U. Ain't hatin', just skatin'.
 
Having bounced off C++ several times now, I have yet to give C# a go. It looks interesting, though.
 
Kit
3:44 PM
@Rhodri Thanks! Now I'm extra mollified.
@Robusto Should I not mention that I use VB?
 
@JSBangs — Our posts crossed in the mail. But if you have mono, I can't hang out with you. And certainly no kissing.
 
i'm just surprised at the C# hatefest. i mean, it makes sense if you're a devotee of Lisp or Python or something else that prizes a certain kind of elegance above all. but of the modern C family of languages, it's by far the best, and i say that as someone with a good amount of experience in all of them
 
@JSBangs I honestly did not know that C# could survive outside a .Net Windows environment.
 
@Rhodri IMHO C++ is an abomination
 
Kit
ABOMINATION! <shrieking and tearing hair>
 
3:48 PM
@JSBangs Agreed. It's the classic example of "I wouldn't start from here."
 
@Rhodri — Also the classic example of "You can't get there from here."
 
@Kit @Rhodri yep. if i want to manage my own memory, twiddle bits, and do pointer arithmetic, i'll use C. if i want to luxuriate in object-orientedness and garbage collection i'll use C#. C++ is the ugly middle child that tries to be both and just... fails
 
@JSBangs Aww, it's not so bad. Not as pretty as Python, but I miss using it. Maybe I have Stockholm Syndrome.
 
i miss C (which i don't use often any more). C++, not so much
 
Kit
So you're saying I should jump ship and start coding in C#?
Everybody else is doing it?
 
3:51 PM
@Kit: all the cool kids, evidently.
 
Kit
Man, I am always the nerd. Even among nerds.
Hey, it's lunch time!
Who's up for it?
 
Are functions first-class objects in C#? Can you pass them as arguments to methods?
 
@Robusto yes
 
Well, then I'm a little bit impressed.
 
Kit
Back in a titch. AFK.
 
3:54 PM
@Robusto Likewise. It may even approach Python in sanity.
 
@Robusto the entire LINQ framework is based on passing functors ("delegates" in C# parlance) to methods that operate on collections. the event mechanism also uses delegates
 
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Q: Word for two persons dodging each other on the street.

Vivek GWhile walking on a path, sometimes two person try to dodge each other. Like one guy steps left, and at the same time, other guy steps left and then switches direction and so does the other guy. Is there a word to describe this?

I'm struggling to think of an answer to this that isn't "No."
 
@Rhodri i wish i knew more python. perl was the first language i ever learned, and by now i know it so well that i just keep falling back on that for my scripting needs, and i can't quite muster the momentum to change over to python (or ruby, which i've also flirted with)
 
If I was given a straight choice between Java and C#, I would choose C#. But I am very familiar with Java already and I'm not going to learn C# because there are so many more interesting things to be doing. It's not really a hatefest. I do hate Microsoft though. And visual studio.
 
I like Javascript for scripting.
 
4:06 PM
@JSBangs Curiously I started with Perl too, but I never got the hang of the OO additions. I switched to Python because I summer course I help teach uses it, and it just made sense.
 
Oh noes, I think we brought in the programming by talking about it.
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Q: Correct synonym/antonym for "lacking", "missing" when that something is REQUIRED (mandatory)

dominicbri7I am searching for the correct term usage in my Java code, although you don't need to know anything about programming to answer my question. My 'something' can be 'required' (mandatory) or not (optional). If it's required, then I want a term that indicates if it's missing or not If it's not req...

I feel dense today. I don't really understand the question.
 
I don't want to understand it.
 
It's not very well put. It's asking for a whole bunch of synonyms and antonyms.
Community wiki, perhaps?
 
How about people just write ELU questions instead of asking people to basically do their jobs for them? /rant
 
3 hours ago, by Kit
@Kosmonaut Can you see deleted comments? I suspect we may have a smurf in our midst.
What's this about?
 
4:13 PM
@Kosmonaut We smurf a smurf has been smurfing us.
 
@z7sg The problem with these things is always that people can't just say "you don't need to know any context to answer" because inevitably, you do, to give a good answer. And then it becomes a localized problem... for which they should hire a tech writer. /me can has rant too
 
@aedia Hmm well I agree with that. But this question is a perfect example of what I hate because not for lack of words, zero context has been provided.
 
@z7sg I know! I have no patience today, so I must restrain myself from nipping at the new users...
@z7sg I just saw "droitwich!" I can't believe there's an entire humorous dictionary coauthored by Douglas Adams that I've missed all these years.
 
3 hours ago, by Kit
@Robusto There was a comment to Caleb in H&B's answer on that question from a user named RG., who replied that he would "change his answer." Now it's under H&B's user name. Can you look and see if the other comment is deleted?
3 hours ago, by Kit
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A: It's raining today or it's rainy today?

Ham and Bacon"It's raining today" is understood to mean that it is raining presently. Not necessarily at the instant of talking, but it has rained previously, and it will rain again later. "It's rainy today" depends on whether the 's is a was or a is. If it's a was, then it is stating that today has been wet...

 
4:35 PM
@aedia Yes... it's a bit of a toilet book but there are some really funny entries.
@Kosmo There was a comment by RG (alleges Kit) that is a smurf account of Ham & Bacon (alleges Kit) that were deleted. I can't even find a user called 'RG'.
 
Oooh that doesn't look good :D
 
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Q: Difference between "then" and "than"

RG.I am having dificulty trying to distingush between "then" and "than". What I find confusing is their prononciation, and when to use them For example: He walked, stopped, than/then picked up a stone. Should it be "than" or "then", and why?

Fishy. Very fishy.
 
Kit
4:50 PM
OK, I'm back.
I see that @Kosmonaut came by.
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Q: Term in soccer for someone playing the ball while past the defender.

RG.I know this may sound ridiculous, but when a person plays the ball while past the defender, there is a term for it which I can't remember. It refers to when there's a guy past the defenders, and someone passes the ball to him, then the umpire at the sidelines blows his whistle and raises the flag...

This one too.
 
Two guesses where "RG's" 35 upvotes have gone?
 
@Kit Good grief. Why wasn't it closed?
 
Kit
@Rhodri Look at the timeline.
It was asked and answered in about two minutes.
 
Yes. Very fishy. Also off-topic :-)
 
Kit
4:57 PM
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A: "It is me" vs. "It is I"?

Ham and BaconBoth expressions mean the same thing. However, both of these pronouns have different rules of usages. In this case, they are both correct, because in some cases, like this case, they are interchangeable, but there are also instances when one of them can be used, but not the other: "I" is a firs...

There are only two activities where RG hasn't had something to do with H&B, as a matter of fact.
 
@Kit It's a pretty unsophisticated pattern of smurfing we're seeing here but still props to you for picking up on it.
 
Kit
@z7sg It was his misstep. I just happened to see it at the right time.
 
5:13 PM
@Rhodri Well, I just voted to close on that and the then/than question
We can probably still get them closed
 
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Q: What's the history of the pronunciation of Delphi?

Peter TurnerThere appear to be two ways to pronounce the last syllable based on deeply held beliefs and cultural divides and assumptions: Phi fi fo fum Fee phi fo fum? I've heard that (2) is the American pronunciation (as in the motor parts corp Delphi), although it's not how we pronounce it in my offic...

They wait nine months before dumping their trash on us??? WTF?
 
Kit
@z7sg Seriously, WTF?
 
@MrHen I've left the then/than one. It's stupid, but it's not actually a dupe.
 
It's an answered question as well, maybe a mistake?
Yeah I think I am probably overreacting to what is just a simple mistake...
 
Kit
@Rhodri Same thing with the timeline there too. Asked and answered in about two minutes.
@z7sg Can we send it back?
 
5:18 PM
@Rhodri It's not an honest Q though, I don't think smurfing questions belong at all.
@Kit I don't know but I know I can't do it. If only @Reg were here!
 
@z7sg Yeah, but smiting for smurfing is orthogonal to closing questions. There's no close option for "The OP is a Lying Toerag" or similar.
 
@z7sg I don't have a problem with good questions. The smurfs can get their due dessert but if they happen to create a good question in the process... meh.
 
@MrHen What if someone comes along with a better answer though? They cannot because the OP didn't exist.
 
Kit
@MrHen Or at least an on-topic question.
 
@z7sg Good point. I am sure the mods already have a plan for stuff like this (if they decide it is actionable.)
 
5:31 PM
@z7sg That's always possible, though. If the OP doesn't check up on their questions, better answers won't get selected. H&B's got at least one legitimate case of that, as far as I can see.
 
Kit
♫ I hate HTML. ♫
I have a sneaking suspicion that H&B and Joe Blow are also the same person.
 
@Rhodri At least people can still vote the best answer to the top I guess. I'll wait and see what happens to the smurf login...
 
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Q: Do I need will or would where I describe an unlikely event

Anderson Silva Actually, I decided not to fly as planes are overbooked, and the probability that I will actually get a standby seat is below my tolerance level Note will is bolded. Perhaps it should be would? What would be the difference in meaning?

 
@Kit I don't think he is:
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A: Shakespearean discovery of the modern mind

Joe BlowIt is essentially a reference to Harold Bloom's influential book Shakespeare and the Invention of the Human. Bloom's wildly audacious book posits that Shakespeare invented the modern milieu of existence. The only book I know as audacious as this — and somewhat similar — is Julian Jayne's The Or...

 
I suggested it might be a dupe and then I noticed all the related q's are the same author. Poor guy.
@Kit Unfathomable for someone to turn on and off that writing style at will.
 
Kit
5:44 PM
@aedia Yeah, the connection is much more tenuous. The attitude is similar though. But the style seems sporadic.
Unless he's plagarizing.
 
@aedia It is a dupe of the last one, pure and simple.
 
Kit
@aedia I wouldn't feel too badly for him.
 
@Kit Well, I would like to think someone wouldn't willingly create all those questions unless they really didn't get will and would.
 
Kit
@aedia I think this guy's got history.
Maybe I'm just being suspicious today.
I also think he might be my ex.
Ha ha ha.
 
What strikes me as a bit weird is that.... wait he is very weird!
 
5:54 PM
How is that news?
 
On SO he is called 'vehomzzz', 30 from New Jersey
He has other accounts with other names, like a Ukrainian serial killer and this one where he pretends to be from Sao Paolo.
 
OK, that's news. Also disturbing.
 
Huh. I've considered not revealing too much personal/location information, but definitely not impersonating a Ukrainian serial killer.
 
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