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slm
12:29 AM
@terdon - figured it out
 
12:42 AM
 
slm
I wasn't working on it for that long, I do have a job and a family 8-)
@Braiam Once my kids went to bed I spent ~30 min. figuring it out
 
1:13 AM
@terdon this sounds about right? askubuntu.com/a/348150/169736
 
slm
1:34 AM
@Braiam nice answer!
 
thanks
I had to link to another answer of mine so people uses the trailing semicolon and spaces/quotes...
 
 
13 hours later…
3:04 PM
Ah, I missed all the fun, was having a (surprise) party at my place. Well done @slm! Damn, I wish I'd played with that a little more but I doubt I would have thought of looking for SUID binaries.
 
slm
@terdon - yeah, once I drove home and thought about it a bit I knew that was the angle, gilles beat me to doing it first, so I felt compelled to do it as well, can't let him have all the glory.
@terdon - you might want to weigh in on the meta question it spawned, meta.unix.stackexchange.com/questions/1416/…
 
will do
 
slm
@terdon - now i'm trying to redeem my answer on this one, unix.stackexchange.com/questions/91734/…
 
@terdon I tried to steal others progress and do it sneaky :P
 
slm
@terdon - then I got @Braiam ripping on me cuz it took 4 hrs. 8-)
 
3:09 PM
and 4 tries :)
Ah, no I meant the quiz
 
slm
haha, that was cuz i couldn't paste the string correctly into the stupid text box
 
@Braiam yes, that was a nice answer (sorry, only now catching up). I made a small edit by the way
 
slm
i finally downloaded the file and uploaded
 
@slm ah, OK, I was wondering how one could get it wrong
I mean either you get it or you don't,
 
slm
when i copy pasted it kept copying the wrapped lines, rather than a single continuous line.
i wasn't going to do it but then i saw gilles name up there rubbing my face in it so i had to do it
i think he and steph. rather enjoy that 8-)
 
3:13 PM
@terdon in the man is writen as Acquire :(
 
slm
apparently ppl disagree with my take on the types of Q's that are apt for this site
that one seems like it might be OK, it's border case, i get why, but seems like we have a little wiggle room to allow them
the meta Q tobu has 3ups, mine has 0, i'd be curious for you guys to weigh in as well, speak your mind, i'd be interested in others perspectives!
You guys agree w/ tobu's assessment as well?
 
@Braiam damn, and I mis-corrected, sorry, edit it back. You had written 'aDcuire'
 
weird, I was sure I copy pasted the commands...
 
You did in most places, it was just the last one. A slip from adquirir I guess?
@slm yeah I closed that one too. I'd like to solve it, but its true that it is not a *nix problem at all.
 
slm
@terdon The crossword or the guest login, or both?
 
3:23 PM
Both (see my answer on meta for the guest login)
The crossword is not *nix. It's cute :) but not a *nix issue as such
 
> what do the #, ?, !, :, ; mean here?
We can't explain that part?
trough the end proupose is solving the excersice the question per-se is valid...
 
Actually @Braiam as far as I can tell they mean the literal characters in all of the cases shown.
 
slm
yeah the regular expressions seem like they can be in play but it seemed a bit non-standard to me
yeah they're all literally just those characters
 
the '?' is always either escaped or in a character class so it just means '?'
The rest don't have special meanings in regex
 
slm
the pentest one, i tried to construct an answer that showed how you'd approach that problem rather than just the solution, so that one seemed more like we could possbily keep it though you bring up good points about the use of non-standard tools
 
3:27 PM
So yeah, @slm, that puzzle (great answer by the way, I appreciated the Socratic method there :) ) would be fine IMO if it could have been solved by standard tools
Yeah, that's what makes it too localized for me.
 
@terdon there is no "too localized" close reason anymore :P
 
The only globally useful thing your answer teaches is SUID and in most rational systems those programs are well behaved
 
slm
yeah, too bad they didn't make the solution more generic, like gaining access to a tool that would generate a new key for the guest acct.
 
actually the SUID verification for detect compromised servers is good
 
@slm yes, something like that I would vote to keep
@Braiam huh, no there isn't I hadn't realized :)
Damn, hung over... can't type
 
3:30 PM
@terdon blame the keyboard!
D:
 
slm
OK, so if you want vote to close this: unix.stackexchange.com/questions/91664/…
get it out of here
 
> Why are you installing X by hand if you don't know what you are doing? I suggest to stick to the distro-packaged version unless you have a very compelling reason not to do so.
 
slm
so we can reference it down the road
 
the eternal question in AU
 
@Braiam Nah, I think I'll blame the ridiculous quantities of very good malt whisky I consumed yesterday
@slm I was thinking of waiting for a consensus in meta
 
slm
3:33 PM
yeah i don't see it going the other way
i don't think my argument was strong enough. Also I tried to bring in the point of there are 2 types of Q's on this site, the help me with problem X, and the more domain specific ones of how does X work in Unix. Which I don't think others saw this Q as being either one of those.
whisky, 8-(
 
It is a clever solution you guys found and it required deep knowledge of *nix to get the idea but the solution is not transferable so too localized
 
slm
scotch ale
 
Excuse me?Are you dissing Scotch?
 
slm
@terdon - yeah
 
You dare!?
Sacrilege, pearls before swine...
 
slm
3:37 PM
no i like scotch ale
it's a type of beer that they brew here at a local brewhouse
it's similar to a guinness but not as creamy
 
My flatmates threw a surprise Bday party for me (my birthday was 3 weeks ago) and part of my loot were 5 bottles of 20year old malt :)
 
slm
nice
 
Wonderful, spent about 10 hours jamming, they'd brought in the drums and everything! Was great :)
Drumkit in the living room is always fun
 
slm
@terdon What is the moties reference?
 
@slm 'the gripping hand', its a reference to a three-armed species in a classic scifi book, The mote in God's eye by Larry Niven and Gerry Pournelle (pournel? something like that) great book, fascinating premise and very good story.
 
3:47 PM
what is the site for asking about configuring dns records on registars and such?
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Q: configuring mail server to send and receive mail from gmail and yahoo

muhamed rafiI would like to configure mail server to send and receive mail from all domain such as gmail and yahoo using postfix in my laptop. Should I have a paid public static ip address for this purpose? or can I use my own private ip address such as 192.168.0.3 .I have already registered a free domain na...

 
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Q: What is the origin of the phrase "on the gripping hand?"

Bill the LizardWhere does the phrase "on the gripping hand" come from and what does it mean in the context of that work? I'll add that I just finished reading The Mote in God's Eye and this is not the origin of the phrase, as I had suspected.

 
@Gilles OK, so it does come from the books, I was worried there for a second. @slm you should read them (at least the first) some of the best hard SF ever written.
 
slm
My god gilles you make us all look bad, he's got a 17k rep on that site too 8-)
 
4:03 PM
@slm He's a mod there.
 
slm
still amazing
 
You've never looked at his profile? I think he's an AI embedded in the SE system :). Something like Jane from the Ender Saga (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_%28Ender%27s_Game%29)
 
slm
you jest but....
i see he's 351k, i know he's stated that he doesn't do SU and he's high there too, though he doesn't do it now, i found one of his answers there last night
impressive!
 
@Braiam I'd send that question over to SU as you suggested. It's a horribly written question but it would be OK if aggressively edited.
 
@terdon no longer
 
4:08 PM
nah, I would close it as OT there then he should ask a new one
 
@slm I know, he's one of the reasons I spent so much time there, I was like 'ooh! there are serious unix geeks here :)
@Gilles ah, didn't know
@Braiam yes, exactly, we don't migrate crap and all that
 
slm
@Braiam - yeah close it, it's a pile, i was going to edit it, but there isn't enough there to salvage
 
@Gilles that's an interesting answer you posted on the NTP question, does the VM really communicate with the host to set the time? I thought they were independent.
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A: How to force the time and date settings to refresh from the internet?

GillesSetting time from the Internet is done via NTP. There are two methods: ntpdate makes one query to retrieve the current time from a server and sets the computer's clock to that time. An ntp daemon makes regular query to one or more servers and typically maintains the local clock with an accuracy...

 
@Gilles can you cast a close vote? I have no more..
 
slm
How many times are we going to answer this question, it's spread across like 5 Q's now
 
4:11 PM
@slm which one?
 
slm
there's the one that talks about using iburst with GPS
the ntp ones
they seem to be all the same Q
let me dig them up
 
@slm link/url?
 
slm
2
A: Time synchronization of machines on LAN to GPS NTP server on the LAN UBUNTU 12.04

Martin SchröderRun ntpd on all machines. Set the server so that it gets its time from the gps receiver and point the other machines to the server. With iburst the clients will sync fast enough for your purposes.

1
A: How can I make a Puppet module that fixes time?

Martin von Wittich service ntpd stop; ntpdate ntp3.domain.local; service ntpd start is definitely the wrong solution for this problem. Use the -g option for ntpd: -g Normally, ntpd exits with a message to the system log if the offset exceeds the panic threshold, which is 1000 s by default...

 
@terdon the hardware clock of the VM is provided by the VM software
and then the client tools might affect the system clock
 
slm
1
Q: NTP not syncing in a VM

CeralesI'm managing some VirtualBox developer environments. The time drifts out of sync when the box is suspended, so I want to use NTP to keep it in sync. NTP doesn't seem to be doing its job, though - the time does not get updated. It does work if I do this: $ service ntp stop $ ntpdate au.pool.ntp...

they all dance around the central Q and offer multiple answers
 
4:14 PM
and I know from experience that things can go wrong when you have NTP both on ESX and inside the VM
but I remember having a hard time finding reliable and comprehensible information
 
slm
yeah we would end up having to add a hack of /etc/init.d/ntpd stop; ntpdate ...; /etc/init.d/ntpd start
via cron
 
@Braiam where?
 
@Gilles It just seems strange to me (I don't doubt it), just find it surprising
 
slm
yeah the ntp is like one of the least understood components
 
4:15 PM
@slm which question? All I see is different questions on related topics
 
slm
trolley is back
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Q: _____ LINUX WAS USED IN IRAQ WAR TO KILL INNOCENCE ?? ____

ALLAH AKBARFarmer Kolcak : So you're saying America is going to use Sarin Gas in the world war 3 ? Michael Uriel : Yes, because america always feared sarin gas, which means they studied it hard but only to find out it is so perfect that they can not stop it. Farmer Kolcak : so what you feared ends up beco...

 
yup
 
slm
there are basically 2 fundamental ones, how do i set the time so that it catches up quickly when using ntp, and what can i do to get ntp to stay correct in a VM
 
@slm can you make any sense out of what this guy is asking? Is he being silly or am I?
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Q: ubuntu grub2 parttool how to use

THESorcererI have Ubuntu and it installs by default grub2, I have multiple windows partitions that I need to boot, I did some digging and find that makeactive was replaced with parttool all good and nice ... BUT I have Ubuntu if I fix /boot/grub/grub.cfg manually, then at the next grub/kernel/whatever upd...

 
slm
seems he's jumbling names of things, makes it hard to follow what he's actually doing
this comment seemed to be the correct way to get your ntp to catch up, "ticker panic 0", i've been dealing with ntp for 10 years and never saw that before.
 
4:23 PM
I still think that update grub should have found all his windows installations...
 
slm
@Braiam agreed
 
@Braiam me too
I'm curious but really don't feel like helping the guy honestly.
 
slm
same here
can only answer so many...
 
he could have modified the 40_custom file and add chainloader + for each windows too...
 
Ah, you think he wants to load the windows boot manager and chainload from there?
 
4:25 PM
Im relating from this one:
> how to modify Ubuntu own configuration files to add parttool command so it will work after an update-grub
at least the later half of the requeriments... I don't know why he should want part tool to run each time grub updates...
 
He seems to think that it is needed to male his Windows partitions bootable but they should already be so from his installation
Heh, sorry guys, couldn't resists that little quip :). Now the troll is answering :(
 
heh...
> if you don't have a generic fix (and i don't think there is any)
the question would have been worded different if he wasn't sure...
 
 
1 hour later…
slm
5:43 PM
My attempt at a canonical Q about NTP, unix.stackexchange.com/questions/91792/…
 
5:54 PM
@slm I feel like closing your question as too broad. There's no single answer that applies to all configurations. When everything works, you just apt-get install ntp unless you're using a do-it-yourself distro, and even then it's pretty simple. When things aren't working, it's out of the scope of a canonical question.
 
slm
@Gilles - understand, is there anything in your mind we can do to save it? or is it hopelessly too broad? It's almost a blog post more than an answer as one way to do it
 
@slm focus your question on “how do I solve this problem?” as opposed to “write a full guide about the topic”
 
slm
The use of preferred/best is what opens it up, right?
 
Here's an example of what not to do (despite the votes):
61
A: How do I run a command as the system administrator (root)

GaryThe main two possibilities are: Use su and enter the root password when prompted. Put sudo in front of the command, and enter your password when prompted. Running a command as root sudo This is the preferred method on most multi-user systems and on Ubuntu. If you don't know a separate roo...

this answer is a mess. It's just too broad, it tries to cover everything.
@slm for a start, I'd remove everything about VMs
 
slm
Yeah that's why i've held off asking this one before, I'm trying to solve too many problems but by doing this I'm losing the 80% solution which is probably what's really needed.
What if I drop the bit at the end saying that either a single conf or a conf + cron are OK, that would narrow the focus to a single solution, no?
Let me take the VM stuff out
 
6:04 PM
And yet the VM stuff is quite tricky as Gilles taught me. Perhaps it deserves it's own question?
 
slm
the VM stuff can be tricky b/c the problem is different depending on the virtualization technology. I use VMware, KVM, and openVZ and the problem persists in each of those environments, and each solution we've implemented is slightly diff.
any better? or still close bait
 
Ouch, OK leave that one out then. Perhaps mention exactly that in the answer?Thatit's tricky but beyond the scope of the current answer.
Personally I find it fine.
 
with a VM, it also depends what your objectives are: sometimes it's better to synchronize the VM with the host, sometimes not (when you're running a distributed application, it's more important to synchronize the remote VMs together)
 
slm
agreed on the different scenarios
OK it's out then, is the Q better now?
 
Looks good to me.
 
slm
6:09 PM
often times it's best if the VM technology can just handle the sync, since running 50 ntp instances on a host is a waste of resources
but I know most do not handle it
 
So whenever possible you should set the host as an NTP server and have the VM sync to it? Or just set the VM to take the time directly from the host internally (however that works)?
 
@slm my answer (if I answered, I'm not an NTP expert so I'll probably hold off) would still start with “it depends, there's no one-size-fits-all”
3 mins ago, by Gilles
with a VM, it also depends what your objectives are: sometimes it's better to synchronize the VM with the host, sometimes not (when you're running a distributed application, it's more important to synchronize the remote VMs together)
 
@Gilles I kinda think he's planning on answering himself
 
slm
should i take some of the requirments out then
i was, this was gonna force me to solve it
 
@slm How much do you think you can handle in a definitive, yet still comprehensible, answer?
 
slm
6:12 PM
not sure, that's the problem with it still, I agree with your points
 
@Gilles Yes, I was just wondering if synchronizing with the host meant setting it up as an NTP server of if it happened internally by the VM software
@slm were you thinking of going the community wiki way?
 
slm
@terdon - yeah with openvz it is handled internally, but it still doesn't work correctly at the host level, so all the guests see the same skew as a results b/c the host is skewing
given how broad it's written I don't see me having enough experience to answer it conclusively, so yeah I think it's ultimately a community wiki answer
I think bullet 3 is at odds with the others
@Gilles so is your feeling the best we can do here is to solve lots of little similar problems rather than provide a general solution for the 80%?
Saturday's aren't really the best day to get the right eyeballs looking at this type of Q
i was thinking of putting a bounty on this one too, i've yet to ever do that
try and motivate one of our resident ntp experts to provide the details 8-)
 
> I use VMware, KVM, and openVZ and the problem persists in each of those environments, and each solution we've implemented is slightly diff.
Sounds like you have enough experience to get started!
 
slm
yeah that's partly why i asked, i figured i'm atleast qualified to start the answer
 
I would do a straight forward answer with small notes about each "slight diff" configuration...
 
slm
6:22 PM
the pdf pubmed, question he can use httrack
 
@slm what's that? I'm also getting curl to work
 
slm
i added a related link that includes an answer i gave a while ago that shows how to use httrack for something similar
curl can do it too
httrack is more of a 800 lb gorilla but it can deal better with resuming downloads like this and also cookies and logins etc.
 
httrack is nice for cloning entire websites
 
Weird though, I'm getting a 403 Forbidden error with wget but curl can download.
or curl http://....
 
finally firefox fixed the weird bug with pdfs!
 
slm
6:29 PM
@Braiam yeah that's what i've used it for in the past
my kids like tumblebooks so I found a library site that had all the books available, so i downloaded them
 
Can anyone thing of a better way of doing this? One that displays the function being run (like zsh does) as opposed to the current executable?
http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/91796/22222
 
@terdon thing/think ;)
 
slm
@terdon - look at you, i didn't know you were a zsh guy
@Gilles - BTW how long did it take you to figure out the guest login CTF question?
 
@slm I'm not, that's just copied from the source I gave
 
slm
@terdon - same as what i would do, i think i've invoked it like once as a result of answering a Q on this site.
stupid bash
feel like it would be more work to unlearn all it's quirks, is that a form of vendor lock in? Making the s/w so quirky that people won't leave b/c they would have to unlearn it 8-)
your xterm solution is how i've seen this generally done, don't see any way to improve it
 
6:36 PM
@slm no, providing an answer for the 80% is good. But when I saw your question it felt like you were going for the 100%, and that's no good
 
Damn, I was hoping there'd be some way I could get the whole loop into a variable
 
it's better now
I still fear you're aiming for the 95%
 
slm
let's give a week, if it's turning south like the Q you linked I"ll delete it my self. Don't want to add to the clutter 8-)
@Gilles yeah i was being greedy, I like single solutions when possible, I hate answering the same thing over and over.
@terdon what loop are you talking about?
@terdon wget worked for me
 
My only problem with that bash trick is that I can't get it to display for example 'while true; do echo foo; done'
It sort of freaks out and sets the name to echo then pwd then echo then pwd until you stop the loop
 
slm
@terdon we're still talking this Q? unix.stackexchange.com/questions/91555/…
 
6:43 PM
Yup
Since $BASH_COMMAND is the currently running command that will be echo if echo is running but unset while the loop circles back to running echo again. So the terminal title jumps from 'echo' to pwd all the time
 
mm... why Anthon rejected my edit when in the end he did the same edit? unix.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/26470
 
@slm that's weird, wget ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3114846/pdf/pone.0020284.pdf gives me ERROR 403
 
or more like, he specifically marked it as "Not usseful"
 
@Braiam maybe he rejected it by mistake and then went and did it himself?
 
slm
They might be blocking by geo ip? Doesn't explain curl though
 
6:47 PM
@Braiam he did not reject it, Community did.
@slm no because I can see it in my browser and get it with curl
 
slm
Yeah that was a stretch
 
@terdon Community reject edits if reviewers hit "Edit" and change the checkbox at the end to "This edit was not usseful"
 
Ah
 
slm
He may have wanted to expand on your edits, I do that, cuts down on wasting the edits for a OP's Q
 
there are 2 actions to make community reject my edit
 
6:50 PM
Perhaps because he considered it too minor (which it is) tagging with your distro is always a good idea, it does not mean that answers are only applicable to that distro
 
slm
the alternative is to accept it, then do your own, that costs 2 edits against make a Q go to wiki status
yeah i deal with those slightly different, i tend to approve those, usually b/c i see regulars looking to improve the site and getting the +2
 
there is no difference between the edit he did unix.stackexchange.com/posts/91799/revisions and the one I did unix.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/26470
 
@Braiam you are asking the wrong people :) We don't know why Anthon would do anything.
 
slm
He's usually more strict than anyone else. You could ask him directly, he's easy to talk to
 
Ask him.
 
6:52 PM
lets drag him :S
 
slm
what is :S?
 
Also, a lot of high rep users feel that you should not make minor edits if your edits need to be approved cause that needlessly clogs up the review queue. I don't disagree.
I will only submit an edit on a site where I don't have the rep to do it directly if it really improves the question or fixes an error. Removing thanks and a minor retag is not worth if for me. I might have rejected as too minor as well.
 
@terdon I don't argue that he rejects it, I argue that he did the same edit, changing the Description of the edit and marked mine as not useful...
 
slm
Yeah as I said, I look to see who it is, and do it or don't do it dependent on who it is
what is :S
is that a grimacing emoticon?
 
@Braiam I might have done that on SU where I am a 10>k non diamond mod to show new users not to make trivial edits, they are not worth the work that creates in the review queue.
 
slm
6:56 PM
depends on the day 8-)
 
You're the only one that sees the description, I think that is the point he was trying to make
Also, yes it's Saturday, some of us might not be in the best frame of mind :)
 
> Show appreciation through votes on answers. Thanks not necessary on SO/SX meta.stackoverflow.com/a/3021/186664; edited tags
This is a list of notable and commonly used emoticons or textual portrayals of a writer's mood or facial expression in the form of icons. The Western use of emoticons is quite different from Eastern usage, and Internet forums, such as 2channel, typically show expressions in their own ways. In recent times, graphic representations, both static and animated, have taken the place of traditional emoticons in the form of icons. Western The emoticon in Western style is written most often from left to right as though the head is rotated counter-clockwise 90 degrees. Thus, most commonly, one ...
D:
 
slm
@Braiam - i wouldn't worry about it, use your best judgement, just realize that there are ppl at the other end so there is a bit of an irregularity wrt how things get handled on the back side 8-)
I like that they progammatically get rid of the salutations, that's hillarious: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/2950/…
 
well, welcome to the SE style :P
SE:
> Q: How you do X.
> A: This way.
 
slm
i answered it, he took my answer wrapped it in a egrep and calls it an answer. Didn't I effectively answer the Q?
Not caring about points, it's more of a WTF?
 
7:03 PM
@Braiam I know, but edits that only remove thank you's are frowned upon (there a are a few meta discussions on this, can't find one now) in general you should not make an edit that needs to be reviewed unless you are substantially improving the post
 
slm
@Braiam - let it go - its not worth getting yourself upset over 8-)
 
@terdon sorry for doing this to you but: did you read my description?
@slm not upset, I just want to adjust my behavior around people... you could call it: I try to not bother you, but first tell me what bothers you so I won't do it ;)
 
@Braiam yes and I didn't agree with it. Tagging with 'ubuntu' is a way of letting us know the OP is using Ubuntu, it is not a wrong tag. If I wanted to make it more general, I would have added a 'linux' tag or something. So that was not worth editing (in my opinion), same goes for removing the thanks, not worth an edit.
Anyway, these things really should not be taken personally. When I first joined SE and was trying to get some rep on SO I would get pissed off if anyone rejected an edit of mine but then I realized how things worked and learned to stop worrying
about it
 
slm
@Braiam yeah and this is one of those things where the answer is "it depends". It depends on which of us is doing the reviewing. I've looked at the stats on reviews and Anthon will (probably correctly) reject edits where myself and others have approved. It's pretty consistent from when i've looked.
 
@slm That one's weird, he was looking for grep! Whatever.
 
slm
7:08 PM
@terdon - yeah it was weird
made me laugh
 
ok, lets drop the topic :)
 
slm
yeah i once got banned for 6 days for editing the tag descriptions
 
@Braiam for example there is a user on SU who keeps retagging questions because we are trying to remove some tags. So, it's a perfectly valid edit but it is very annoying because it fills up the edit queue with these minor edits and we can't approve/reject substancial ones. We've been discussing asking only high rep users to participate in retagging for exactly this reason.
@slm huh!? What did you do? Were your descriptions considered wrong?
 
slm
i was like, ooo look i'll help out and fill them out and after a file i noticed i coudln't do it anymore and was banned. when i looked into it i realized my edits were getting rejected
i was taking the description of the actual websites for a given software's tag
or from wikipedia
 
lol
 
slm
7:10 PM
the actual phrase was a copy paste but i figured, it's from the guys that make the app, who better to write it
michael explained it to me after when i asked about it
 
:)
 
@slm NOOO, I can't write a good manual about something I have done myself :(
 
But wait, you were suspended with no warning?
 
was the system @terdon
 
slm
May 24 at 7:03, by slm
@MichaelMrozek - I notice several of my suggested edits to the tag wiki were declined to the point where I had too many declined and can no longer edit tags for 7 days, where can I see why this is and the status and explanation of what was wrong with my edits? I can't find this anywhere in my user page.
 
7:13 PM
@slm ah, I thought your account was suspended, not the edit wiki privileges
@slm wow... lots of free time that day huh?
 
slm
how do i post the link to that days transcript?
 
@slm Hacking your way in... click prev day, then copy the link of the next
 
slm
thanks
yeah i just did the same thing
yeah don't get too upset, when i went through that it was hit or miss depending on who was approving the edits is my point
@terdon yeah just edit wiki
 
I know the feeling, if I am going through a long review edits queue and they're all from the same low-rep user I can get annoyed at him. As in, hey man take a break!
 
in AU they need tags because people subscribe to certain topics of interest and the tags help us to find the questions we want to answer :(
 
slm
7:19 PM
@terdon exactly, i've done the same thing too. i'll give you a few but if you're just sitting there and pumping rep out of me then i stop approving
 
@Braiam exactly, that's why if I post a question on SU I will tag it both with Linux and with my distribution, if you remove the UBuntu tag without adding any other, you just made the Q invisible to the Ubuntu guys
 
slm
@terdon - rahul just posted a solution for pubmed, were you gonna answer that one?
 
I also noticed you brought Anthon in but did not ask him anything
@slm yes, I noticed, I was hoping to get something better than dopwnloading all pdfs but that will work too
 
slm
Where's anthon?
 
I just noticed when he left :(
 
7:22 PM
He came, he saw, he was ignored, he left :)
 
slm
I would ask him. While you're at it, ask him what his secret is for getting 20 closes a day on the queues, he has some secret sauce
 
what? 20!?
 
Actually rahul's answer doesn't work
 
slm
review queues
didn't try his
just saw
 
Ah, he just fixed it. He also figured out why I was getting the 404 error so that's +1 from me
 
slm
7:30 PM
i +1'd him too
he's always working so hard on the site, i see a lot of deleted attempts by him
they're close but it's tough on this site to get in
 
yup, there are not a lot of questions but too many tough guys to answer :P
 
Tell me about it, I'm one of the top Linux guys on SU so I came here thinking to teach everyone, little did I know this place was haunted by the real gurus.
 
is there any trick so text in flash (lunux version) looks decent?
btw, I figured out that Anthon didn't reject my script was the LQP review queue unix.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/26472
 
slm
good you didn't over react 8-)
 
His edit overrode mine, sorry @Anthon :(
I forgot about that reason, tehe :P
 
8:29 PM
@terdon real guru is stephen,slm,gills , I always follow them :)
 
slm
@RahulPatil - thanks, that means alot!
 
8:57 PM
@braiam sometimes editing works strange. I think you refer to the case I edited a first post review from the queue clicked [Done] and then saw the post in the suggested edits queue. At that point the system would not let me OK that edit anymore.
 
yeah, I know, I have rolled over people edits in the review queues
 
I myself had a similar irritations when I change a typo in a first post (porpose -> purpose), and by the time I was done I could not save. WTF I thought and realised two others had ok-ed the post as is
In such a case I got back and edit the orginal, if my changes are worth it. (you don't get the review point though).
^got^go
 
nay, is ok, but I think that Comunity should reject with another "reason" so people don't wonder "Hey, why the heck my edit was rejected"
 
Ok I read back now, on the queue. That unix.stackexchange.com/review/low-quality-posts/26472 was exactly where that happened. I did not actively reject it, I just could not ok it anymore. Sorry
 
again, is ok, I figured it out why Comunity rejected my edit, is all good and cozzy ;)
 
slm
9:16 PM
@Anthon - yes I've had that exact issue come up too.
@Braiam, @Anthon - Anthon, myself and a few others are pretty on the review queues so i've had a number of times where I'm making a edit or about to approve/reject it and it goes from being available to it's already been rejected or approved, usually by Anthon 8-)
i've seen it where Anthon will approve and then if no one approves in an allotted amount of time, community will do the same
 
9:44 PM
I know it could be infuriating in AU... not too much now since I keep myself out the First post review queue to keep my sanity :)
 
 
2 hours later…
11:15 PM
@slm
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18937775/effective-user-id-does-not-change-after-making-the-file-owned-by-root/18938648#18938648
I've got it! I've got it! I figured it out :D
 
so... it was a unix se question at the end of the day... man what a mess...
 
slm
@Braiam - yeah i dropped off of it, knew it was something but didn't feel like digging in
@MichaelMrozek - any chance we could migrate this Q back here? stackoverflow.com/questions/18937775/…
 
Yeah, I thought the migration to SO wasn't necessary
 
slm
It cosmetically looked like a coding Q, even so it was still more to do with permissions than C
I originally voted to migrate it more as a defensive move to protect the Q, since I knew others would do the same. That's why I answered it originally too.
@MartinvonWittich - again very nice work debugging that one, it was a bugger 8-)
 
mm... I think there is a gif about that...
 
slm
11:24 PM
You probably just provided an answer that will save multiple ppl headaches down the road, I would suggest trying to clean up the comments so that it's trimmer, right now it's a mess, beyond your good answer.
 
@slm: I just had to know :)
 
slm
@MartinvonWittich - that's like 95% of the questions I answer, not knowing drives you nuts.
been fighting this daemon all day
simple script, the guys using vagrant, the cron sometimes works, like 99% there
@MartinvonWittich - that's called earning your 15 on that one!
 
yeah. but that's it for today. I'm off to bed! gn8
 
slm
@MartinvonWittich - night
 
@RahulPatil Yup, that's who I was talking about. Them and a few others around here.
 
slm
11:58 PM
@terdon - I think we have a very nice SE community here, everyone is very friendly and we have a supremely deep knowledgeable group of ppl.
extremely wide area within the U&L niche.
 
Aww, you're getting all mushy on me again! ;)
 
slm
pfff
 
Agreed though, I've found some gems from unexpected quarters
 
slm
When I threw my back out in Jan. I was on SO for a bit, the short answers and the contention wasn't for me
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