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12:02 AM
The way you say it, it certainly sounds bad, like suppression. But I don't feel like particular examples of being PC are suppression of information by euphemizing. It's about not being a jerk.
 
If you're telling people to change their natural language...
 
12:29 AM
You're telling people that there thoughts are racist/hurtful/not respectful as exhibited by their language. If changing their languages helps them be not so disrespectful then I think that's appropriate.
 
@Mitch But in a few years, they'll have to switch to yet another word?
 
I don't find that that is looking for a key under the street light as opposed to where you actually dropped the key.
not the best metaphor.
Disparaging the euphemism treadmill is killing the messenger.
wait.. not so great either
the euphemism treadmill isn't the problem, it's a symptom.
 
I'm not sure I find those metaphors enlightening...
 
haha... I'm trying
 
So we're asked not say x but y, because x means we're immoral.
 
12:36 AM
@Mitch There is no reason that either of those premises need to be mutually exclusive, or even unrelated.
 
Then later someone else tells us not to use y but z, because y means we're immoral.
That sounds absurd to me.
Acknowledging that the euphemism treadmill exists makes it nearly impossible for one to tell people to switch to a certain euphemism without internal contradiction and ensuing absurdity.
Not to mention futility.
 
@Cerberus The treadmill isn't that fast
 
Does its exact speed matter?
 
@Cerberus OK. I think we need examples here. What are you thinking of for example are x/y/z
 
I've been through several cycles with respect to cripples.
During my adult lifetime, probably.
Which has not been that long.
First it was invalid.
Then handicapped.
 
12:40 AM
@Cerberus To be fair to Mitch, it vaguely does. If it only happens at roughly the same pace as any other aspect of semantic drift, it's not especially unreasonable...
 
@Cerberus I don't find it fast enough to be annoying. Over the course of my life, pretty much the only thing that's changes is that 'Oriental' should be replaced by 'Asian'. For rugs it is questionable
 
Now limited.
And I may have missed some cycles in between...
@Tonepoet I don't think the moral dimension and its inconsistency are removed even when the cycles are long?
And I remember how we went from foreigners, to allochthones, to immigrants.
This is all in Dutch.
 
@Cerberus in the US handicapped is still what you call the parking spaces. but people are more likely to be called whatever the actual condition is (wheel-chair bound, blind, etc)
 
But many other languages have their aequivalents.
@Mitch I believe people are in the process of using "challenged" in your culture, although it's not finished yet?
 
@Cerberus for that example, big deal, who cares if you have to change a word, all the particular terms mean the same thing, and if for whatever reason some fall out of style or get a stigma attached (from the real world condition itself) then no big deal, just use the newer word. Does it really hurt you that much to use the new word?
 
12:44 AM
I'm only talking about the inconsistency and the absurdity at the moment.
 
@Cerberus I made no statement regarding either of those factors.
 
Words aren't magic. invoking a mantra and expecting the power of the word to make things happen is not how it happens.
when I hear a word I think it means what it says. there is only one meaning and it has forced its meaning on me by being uttered. But that's magical thinking. Words are slippery and change.
 
Naturally.
 
@Cerberus It is certainly annoying to be caught in using a word, that you've always used, that people consider rude or mean that you never associated that way.
 
I hadn't even got to that battery of arguments yet!
@Mitch So how do you feel about the euphemism treadmill? It's not negative at all, it's fine? Or: it's negative, but it's worth it?
 
12:48 AM
@Cerberus That does seem to be the latest variant, but I often hear it as often as not jocularly as in a (guess what kind of person) person being called 'follicularly challenged'.
maybe mentally challenged is used ? I don't know.
 
@Mitch It's not magic to invoke a certain understanding Mitch. The word is assigned a concept first, and the word serves as a marker to others to help recollect that concept.
 
'chronologically challenged' for....
 
@Mitch I think ridiculisation is one of the early stages of the adoption of a new linguistic feature.
 
If we didn't know how it worked, then it'd be magic.
 
@Cerberus sometimes they do sound silly.
 
12:49 AM
I think ridiculing comes after disbelief.
 
afro-american sounds like a commercial jingle
 
> ... Winter Storm Warning remains in effect from midnight tonight
to 6 PM MDT Friday...

* timing... rain is expected to change to snow Wednesday evening
as cold air moves into the area. Snow is expected to continue
through Friday afternoon before it dissipates.

* Snow accumulations... 12 to 24 inches of snow with up to 36
inches on favored east slopes.

* Wind/visibility... visibility will fall below a quarter mile in
heavy snow.
 
@Cerberus there's the whole idiot, imbecile, moron invented as a formal taxonomy that was eventually replaced by mentally retarded (and 'retarded' is now pretty pejorative). and now I think it is mentally-challenged (or again using the more formal medical terms gets one out of that: 'microcephalic' or 'ADS' or 'neurally compromised', actually the abbreviation 'MR' by docs
 
In more convenient units, call that 1-2', with 3' on the eastern slopes.
 
@tchrist 90F here tomorrow
@tchrist and probably wet snow
 
12:54 AM
@tchrist Umm it's supposed to be summery!
 
@Cerberus It has been!!!!
 
@Mitch There you go.
 
See?
 
35 is 0?
 
32
 
12:55 AM
So you have seen nocturnal frost?
 
No.
 
OK.
Oh, I misread.
 
The red line is temp, the blue line dew point.
Those have to intersect below 32 for frost.
 
I noticed at last.
 
@Cerberus it's annoying to have to learn the new words but I don't see that as a huge problem. It's only thought police to those who insist on using a word that has become pejorative underneath them. Not their fault but they still sound bad using the old word
@tchrist This is kind of early for a June snow storm don't you think?
 
12:56 AM
80s were a bit toasty but this is pure overcompensation.
@Mitch Just a wee tad
 
@Mitch So is the existence of a treadmill in itself bad or fine?
 
The hummingbirds are swarming like a stirred up wasps' nest.
 
@tchrist It's swinging back and forth similarly on the east coast. (but not to the extent of having snow)
 
I'll pass it along.
 
Today was a hot, humid day. Ugh.
I should say, yesterday.
 
12:58 AM
@Cerberus It's just a thing. I don't think of it as bad or good, it's just a phenomenon. Like assimilation or palatalization.
 
@Cerberus Here, too: this one's in metric for you:
 
OK so you don't see anything bad in the treadmill unto itself.
 
@tchrist they're like bumblebees
 
Look how terribly humid it was when it was up in the 80s.
 
12:59 AM
@Cerberus not really.
 
Brought Lorin in and confined him to window-shopping the swarm.
 
OK.
 
Like I said, I do feel sorry for old(er) people who either have to learn new words for ones that have served them just fine, or if they stubbornly don't recognize the trend, and continue to use the older (now pejorative one) they get labeled racist.
 
He was too chummy, and they were too curious and desperate.
@Mitch I refuse.
 
@Mitch OK then we're stuck at a fundamental difference of opinion on the most praeliminary of arguments with respect to this issue.
 
1:04 AM
That's the same as us then: we get about 90 inches of snow, sometimes 120 or 150 though.
Wait, that's just rain.
Doesn't count.
 
This is the average relative humidity in winter over 20 years.
 
That's awful.
 
I knew you'd like it.
 
Might as well live near the bloody ocean, in which case, why aren't you in Hawaii or the Isles of the Dog?
 
That is the ocean.
 
1:06 AM
> ... in which case ....
 
In the ablative.
Or did you mean, in which book case?
 
Isn't there a Dog Isle with your name on it?
No wait, that's in the Med not the Nortlant.
 
My name?
 
@Cerberus I'm not sure what exactly is the difference? You'd prefer no semantic drift at all?
I'd prefer it too, but I just recognize that it happens.
 
Oh, it's Stromboli not Cerberi.
Aren't stromboli pastries?
 
1:09 AM
but 'literally'? NO I'm having a hard time with that.
@tchrist funky wrapped pizzas?
 
Oh that's right.
 
from New Jersey?
ya gotta do something with that leftover dough and sauce
 
@Robusto Need to order a barrel of popcorn for the season.
@Mitch I'm so glad we're a month from Midsummer's Day rather than from Midwinter's Day.
I can't remember ever having a major blizzard this close to Memorial Day before. Maybe a baker's foot on May Day, something like that.
> Never put your tomatoes in before Memorial Day.
 
@Mitch No, I just consider a euphemism treadmill something inconsistent and absurd.
@tchrist The Stromboli is a volcano, on Sicily, I think?
 
@Cerberus Nice and warm place for you to guard.
Holy crap.
 
1:20 AM
The entrance to the underworld is usually said to be elsewhere in Italy.
 
@tchrist snap
 
House just shook like a bomb. Nearby lightning strike. May you live in interesting storms.
 
I've given up on gardening
stupid plants
 
@Mitch I planted seeds today.
 
how did they ever survive before we came a long
 
1:21 AM
@Mitch By not being from Mexico or the Med.
 
@Cerberus oh that too
and a movie with Ingrid Bergman
yeah it happens on the island
 
Hail storm.
 
@tchrist they have thyme and oregano
and sage brush
no parsley
 
Gosh, I was just reading about this:
 
@tchrist that's weather coming in fast
 
1:23 AM
And it turns out its enemy is...humidity.
It often fails when the air is humid.
 
is that a .... Tesla coil?
 
An electrostatic generator, or electrostatic machine, is an electromechanical generator that produces static electricity, or electricity at high voltage and low continuous current. The knowledge of static electricity dates back to the earliest civilizations, but for millennia it remained merely an interesting and mystifying phenomenon, without a theory to explain its behavior and often confused with magnetism. By the end of the 17th century, researchers had developed practical means of generating electricity by friction, but the development of electrostatic machines did not begin in earnest until...
 
@Mitch moth ball and marble size
Skylights are scaring me.
 
They're called stars.
 
No, a hailstone fusillade.
 
1:34 AM
That doesn't sound good.
 
Last week shattered Denver.
 
A golf ball is large.
 
OR here: google.com/…
@Cerberus It is.
That's why it blew out windshields completely.
Also, schools and department stores and entire malls are likely gone for the summer.
 
@Cerberus Ah no, not a Tesla coil but a Van de Graaff generator (which wiki says Tesla praised)
 
What is all this about Tesla?
I don't think he's that important?
He has one unit named after him.
Lorentz, whose machine that was, had many things named after him.
Hendrik Antoon Lorentz (18 July 1853 – 4 February 1928) was a Dutch physicist who shared the 1902 Nobel Prize in Physics with Pieter Zeeman for the discovery and theoretical explanation of the Zeeman effect. He also derived the transformation equations which formed the basis of the special relativity theory of Albert Einstein. According to the biography published by the Nobel Foundation, "It may well be said that Lorentz was regarded by all theoretical physicists as the world's leading spirit, who completed what was left unfinished by his predecessors and prepared the ground for the fruitfu...
 
1:54 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in body: How is the pills "envelope" called? by Juan David Gamboa on english.SE
 
2:12 AM
@Cerberus It's just a popular name. The underappreciated genius
he invented a transporter
in a movie
played by David Bowie
so it must be something
 
I don't think I know much about Tesla except the unit.
 
 
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7:30 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted website in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: How to address in a formal email by uiopnoog on english.SE
 
@tchrist I picked up a copy of the Cambridge Encyclopedia of the English Language today. On page 17, I saw this page of MS Cotton Nero D. and thought perhaps it'd suit your tastes:
 
 
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8:41 AM
Hey there, could anyone help me out with a word briefly?
 
8:54 AM
@dot_Sp0T Just ask your question. Anyone that could answer would come by and see it, and answer
 
Sweet. My spellchecker marks the word representant as wrong. But dictionaries seem to list it written exactly like that. Does anyone have a clue what's wrong with the word?
 
@dot_Sp0T Shrug Spellcheckers aren't that authoritative.
 
@M.A.R. nah, but they're usually a good measure for current-day speech
 
Nucleophile is underlined as red when I type it.
So is covalent.
As long as your word is common enough in its normal context but uncommon in the whole picture, you'd keep typing it right but having it underlined as red.
 
I was mostly wondering if there is another word with similar-to-same meaning that is more common
 
@M.A.R. should've thought of that myself.. many thanks :D
 
 
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12:22 PM
Mar 25 '15 at 14:22, by tchrist
Snow, snow go away
Come again no other day
Till the year is spent and gone
Let no flake conceal my lawn.
 
12:54 PM
@dot_Sp0T Spelling checkers often omit valid words that aren't common, under the assumption that they are more likely to be written out as typos than whatever word the spelling is supposed to represent. Representant is neither a very common word, nor the most common word to be used for its meaning. It's in the bottom 30%, whereas the proposed synonym representative is in the top 40% according to Merriam-Webster.
I would recommend using representative in all cases really. Representant seems like one of those words that's just in the dictionary because you might occasionally encounter it and wonder what it means, because it's so rare. It doesn't even seem to carry a distinct semantic nuance, which is odd.
 
1:17 PM
@tchrist Also, Mr. Tchrist, how you're expressing your hatred of snow vaguely reminds me of Reimu Hakurei's role in Touhou 07: Perfect Cherry Blossom in which the basic premise of the plot is that Spring seems to have been postponed, and of course her natural response is to hunt down everybody she encounters until she finds out who's responsible. She certainly hates the cold.
I'm imagining the perfect cherry blossom scenario would be perfectly nightmarish to you. A never-ending winter...
 
1:37 PM
@Tonepoet My Windows 10 is taking an hour to update...
 
@JasonBourne Yeah, Windows updates are generally infrequent and long, which is different from Ubuntu updates.
 
@Tonepoet I checked my copy of SOED. I was surprised that pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis and floccinaucinihilipilification and koinonia were in it. However, caducibranchiate was not. I guess it is the other way round for the Collins ED.
 
@JasonBourne Hmm, interesting. Oxford hasn't updated the caducibranchiate definition, at all.
"This entry has not yet been fully updated (first published 1888)."
It's also a frequency band 2 word, which is the second most infrequent..
 
@Tonepoet Where are you checking this from?
 
@JasonBourne My library card gives me access to the O.E.D. website.
 
1:47 PM
@Tonepoet Maybe they did not fully update it so they did not include it in the 2007 SOED6.
 
In for a penny, in for a pound.
How many pennies in a pound?
 
100? I am not British so I don't know
 
There are pi seconds in one nanocentury
So there's that
 
Please read through this answer, I've done translation work etc. and after the articles linked in the comments I'm sure this is the correct answer, but people aren't reading through or thinking, just upvoting the first two answers.
4
A: How to express "small small" in English?

John HamiltonThis kind of expression is often used in my language and I get where you're coming from (hopefully). In Turkish, this would emphasize plurality, meaning there are an increased number of small things rather than the same number of smaller things. Unfortunately, English has nothing like what you're...

 
@JasonBourne oh.
right
since they decimated the british monetary system
it used to be 12 pennies to a shilling and 20 shillings to a pound
or the other way round
and then add one to get a guinea
 
1:53 PM
@JohnHamilton I sympathise with you. For a long time now, I already think that votes on the site are not a good reflection of anything, and this is just a fun site like any others, not one for definitive questions and answers.
@JohnHamilton However, in this case, I have no opinion of the question in the first place, so I cannot comment.
@BennyLewis Hi, I know you are a polyglot and I read your websites long ago, lol.
 
@JohnHamilton The OP has not clarified if 'small small' means many small things or just very small things. They mentioned 'many' but were unsure of it. That lack of certainty makes it hard to answer with certainty
 
@JohnHamilton Reduplication is a valid form of emphasis in English.
 
Not with small small or big big
 
@Tonepoet but not necessarily so in IndE
 
especially if there is no comma in between
 
1:56 PM
Oh hey @JasonBourne - thanks for reading along lol. Happy to be here ;)
 
@BennyLewis I am trying to use Assimil to study a few languages. I am guessing you have bought a few Assimils yourself?
 
@Mitch Okay, I didn't notice the Indian English tag.
 
@JasonBourne Last one for the moment: there are 168 hours in a week, which is the order of the group of symmetries of the Fano plane
 
Yep. I use their French courses, to learn through "laddering" - and I took some inspiration from them in creating my own courses. Highly recommended!
 
hi guys
 
1:59 PM
@Mitch It's so obvious
 
If you went out for a walk with a friend
and later I return home
Is this sentence
I returned at home from walk with Janet
correct?
also does it sound natural?
maybe it should be
I returned home from a walk with Janet
 
@user8469759 I returned home from a walk with Janet.
 
sometime I struggle with that "returned"
is "return" common?
 
I don't know and I am thinking of a better way to say it.
 
@mitch I wonder if the Indian English tag is a mistag on the part of the questioner.
 
2:03 PM
"I've just got back" instead of "return"
maybe?
 
@JohnHamilton Also, an unfortunate fact of Stack Exchange seems to be the more work you put into the answer, the less likely it is to garner votes because it'll come in too late. Most people seem to just view a question once and move on.
 
@Tonepoet I think of SE as a classroom where the teacher posts an answer and the students (think elementary school) vote. Now how accurate is that kind of voting? So yes, SE is nothing more than that, mostly.
 
It works well on gamedev and stackoverflow from what I've seen
Also on RPG.SE
 
@JasonBourne To be fair, I think most of us have at least passed the elementary school level of education, but yes, I can see how that'd be problematic.
@JohnHamilton Also, I don't doubt that it does, but the English subject matter is somewhat different. People are more prone to do explicit studies on those subjects on their own, esp. R.P.G. S.E., since it's a hobbyist's endeavor. English is something we don't study beyond what we're compelled to study and eager to forget. Regardless because everybody uses it, we all have an opinion regarding it.
 
2:31 PM
@Tonepoet Do you have snow?
 
@Tonepoet You call Mr tchrist Mr, as if he is very old. He is still very young!
 
@tchrist I'd rather not disclose the details of what the climate is like here, but I have seen snow in the past.
 
@Tonepoet Your secrecy extends to great depths. Even I discuss the details of Antarctican weather.
Oh, my Windows has finished updating after one hour!
 
@JasonBourne Climate and weather are different. =P
 
@Tonepoet For an elementary school kid like me, they are the same, lol.
However, I can see that they are spelled differently, lol.
@Tonepoet Indeed you very consistently dot all your abbreviations, Ms Tonepoet.
 
2:47 PM
@JasonBourne Climate pertains to how weather typically differs on a regional basis. I have few qualms with saying it's sunny wherever it is that I am now. However if I say it never snows where I live, that rules out the possibility that I live in a desert.
 
@Tonepoet Yes, I now think you live in a Mongolian desert with the horses.
 
I should've said may suggest, not rules out...
 
I did sing a Mongolian song once, but it was translated into Chinese, lol.
It's about the horses, maybe the one you are riding on now, lol.
@Tonepoet What do you think of Dover books? They are often cheap high quality paperbacks, often reprints of out of print books.
 
@JasonBourne I usually don't like paperbacks because the corners of the covers usually get frayed under my care. However, it was much more feasible than buying the hardcover versions of Andrew Lang's books, which are all super expensive for whatever reason.
 
@Tonepoet Who is Andrew Lang? What does he write?
 
3:00 PM
Andrew Lang is the early 20th century equivalent to The Grim Brothers. He compiled and edited myths from around the world, mostly into colored "fairy books" like The Red Fairy Book, The Blue Fairy Book, &c.
 
@Tonepoet Ah, I remember now. I once thought you were a fairy too when you mentioned these fairy books.
 
Anyway, Dover did publish a series of those and if you want a printed version of any it's the most practical way to go, although if you don't mind using an electronic medium, then it should be noted that they're public domain books.
 
I have some Dover math books. I think they have lots of chess books and physics books too
The math books published by Wiley, McGraw Hill and Prentice Hall can be very expensive.
 
3:15 PM
@JasonBourne The only chess book I really studied in depth was Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess, which as it turns out, wasn't even really written by Bobby Fischer. It was an interesting book though, mostly consisting of puzzles to solve.
 
@Tonepoet Why then is Bobby mentioned?
 
@JasonBourne They licensed his name for the prestige.
 
@Tonepoet Sad. But when I played chess I never liked Bobby either. I really prefer learning from say Kasparov, partly because he shares my name, lol.
 
@JasonBourne Bobby really knew what he was doing though. Even after he came out of retirement he was still playing at championship level.
 
@Tonepoet Now now, Kasparov is the greatest chess player who ever lived, IMAO, and maybe there will never be anyone greater than he!
 
3:26 PM
@JasonBourne What about Paul Morphy?
 
@Tonepoet I don't know about him. Anyway, I stopped playing chess 9000 years ago.
 
Paul Charles Morphy (June 22, 1837 – July 10, 1884) was an American chess player. He is considered to have been the greatest chess master of his era and an unofficial World Chess Champion. He was a chess prodigy. He was called "The Pride and Sorrow of Chess" because he had a brief and brilliant chess career, but retired from the game while still young. Bobby Fischer included him in his list of the ten greatest players of all time, and described him as "perhaps the most accurate player who ever lived". Morphy was born in New Orleans, Louisiana, to a wealthy and distinguished family. He learned to...
I also have Chess Fundamentals by Capablanca, but I haven't read it so extensively.
 
@Tonepoet Looks very handsome, lol.
 
Chess notation is just headache inducing, whether it's traditional or "algebraic".
 
I used both notations in the past. I prefer the PK4 notation to the e5 notation.
So why do I prefer that?
Because you don't need to remember which letter is which column. You just use the position of the chess pieces and don't need to invoke alphabetical order.
 
3:41 PM
Hmm.
 
If you still play chess, next time we can have a game online. =)
 
@JasonBourne I've never been quite good at it. XD
Fun though.
 
@Tonepoet The last time I played was 9000 years ago so I am prob worse than you now
I check my email every day, but nobody sends me anything these days.
 
3:59 PM
@JasonBourne I do believe I sent you a few a while ago. I don't use email often though, esp. when I'm chatting with somebody. XP
 
@Tonepoet Then again, the most important thing for me is to get well, not to have emails, but since I am not getting well, I might as well have some emails. =)
 
@JasonBourne I just sent something. XP
 
4:15 PM
@Tonepoet Haha I didn't see the tag, I just saw the mention of 'subcontinental'. What else could that mean? Madagascar?
 
@Mitch A bit leaky.
 
@JasonBourne I bet the Buddha is overjoyed even when he gets spam email. You know, small things.
@MetaEd Speaking of truck-stop prostitute murders ...
@JasonBourne I really like that there exist chess books. But it stops there.
 
 
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5:56 PM
@Tonepoet Some here have never seen it.
 
@Tonepoet The title is very funny.
 
@Tonepoet I don't hate snow: I like it to arrive a few days before Christmas, linger for some dozen proverbial days thereof, and then quickly melt away to dry, warm sunshine once the yuletide season is well and truly past. Seldom, if ever, does it turn out that way.
 
6:19 PM
@tchrist Yeah, I know how weather overstaying its welcome can be. That was part of the circumstance in my comparison though, and I find it unusually odd that it's the first thing you'd be mentioning in the middle of may. It vaguely suggests to me that you either do not live in a hotter climate, or have a greater tolerance for heat than your climate might generate.
 
6:36 PM
It's about the gardening.
I wouldn't like it hotter.
It's a complex situation: I live above a mile in elevation in a semi-arid environment where I can always ascend another couple of (round) miles to get cooler if I want to. It's never too hot at fourteen thousand feet.
The important thing is that it be dry.
Of air.
For your comfort.
Having a mile less insulation means the sun is always hot when it lands upon you.
 
That's a convenient situation, and especially so if you don't have to be in the house. Also, I hadn't known that you gardened.
 
And feed hummingbirds in the snow.
But not, today, with flowers.
 
My favourite Christmas song is the one that says '..... glowing in the fireplace' I don't even know the words or the title. =P
 
We're past lilac time, into iris and poppy time.
Sad poppies, sad peonies.
Jury still out on puppies, but cats are unamused.
 
I even got the words above wrong, lol.
There, my favourite Christmas song.
Listening to it every December makes me cry.
 
6:50 PM
basically about the loan translation of a Chinese word that means essentially SJW. Or maybe something else
@Cerberus lots of commentary in the ... uh... comments relevant to being PC.
@JasonBourne The one xmas song I can't stand... ugh, I'm not going to give its name
But I really like 'Edelweiss'.
Yes, I know it's not a xmas song.
 
@Mitch Sorry but Edelweiss is a terrible song. =)
 
And it's also an... emollient... for the Austrians to deny their ... ahem ... 'involvement'.
@JasonBourne haha. What?
You don't like Julie Edwards?
 
@Mitch I don't like the song.
 
She's like the ... who's the singer you like a lot?
 
Mariah Carey?
Ooh I think Mitch got kidnapped.
 
7:20 PM
@JasonBourne Chet's nuts roasting o'er an open fire, Jack Frost nipping at Pernod, and I probably should just leave the rest out to keep this room family friendly.
 
@MetaEd Ah I haven't spoken to you in chat for 9000 years!
 
@JasonBourne I thought the world was created in 4004 BC.
@JasonBourne Incidentally, the tornado watch for my area is probably just a cooincidence, not a wrathful God about to smite me for being flippant about creationism.
 
Ah, tornadoes! I watched Sharknado 1, but it was so shitty I didn't watch 2,3,4.
 
7:39 PM
@Mitch I see your Fano plane, and raise you Peano playin.
 
8:07 PM
@JasonBourne no no the other one. not Diana Riggs. Lauren... Laurie something
 
@Mitch Laura Ramsey, an actress, not singer.
 
@JasonBourne Close enough
Kiri Te Kanawa?
Renée Fleming?
 
Well, I don't really like any singers a lot, lol.
 
Just one.
 
Mariah Carey, lol.
 
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