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in this case, it's not even the same venn diagram

user19161

@Szabolcs I would also use into in the absence of further context.

Good afternoon

9:26 PM

hello

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 This is the time you usually say bye.

It's sunday

I'm encouraging my daughter to do her homework while also chatting on my phone

Her homework is to draw some shapes but only colour in the squares

do you fancy feeling righteous indignation, @MrShinyandNew?

user19161

@MattЭллен What's up?

@MrShinyandNew安宇 a tricky task. I can't do that even now

9:30 PM

Sure

have a read of this

user19161

@MrShinyandNew安宇 Homework should have been completed by Saturday. :-)

I didn't start getting given homework until I was 11

user19161

@MattЭллен Why did you not invite me to read this as well? But I hate politics, it's true.

@JasperLoy because I know Mr S has a bee in his bonnet about gay marriage rights

user19161

9:33 PM

@MattЭллен Too much homework makes Matt a dull boy.

nah, I was dull already

it just keeps me blunt

@JasperLoy were it an article about maths or Singapore, I'd have shown you :)

user19161

@MattЭллен I don't read news anymore. I am only interested in getting my life right now.

fair enough

user19161

When I used to read the news in the past, I felt angry at all the shit happening in the world.

Vitaly

Well. Putin again. :(

Bald–hairy

Bald–hairy () is a common joke in Russian political discourse, referring to the empirical rule of the state leaders' succession defined as a change of a bald leader with a hairy one and vice versa. This consistent pattern can be traced back until as early as 1825, when Nicholas I succeeded his late brother Alexander as the Russian Emperor. Nicholas I's son Alexander II formed the first "bald–hairy" pair of the sequence with his father. The current "bald–hairy" pair of Russian rulers are Prime Minister (former President) Vladimir Putin and incumbent President Dmitry Medvedev. Pattern The...

9:36 PM

@JasperLoy It's the bad stuff that gets reported. good news doesn't sell so well

@Vitaly so long as the pattern continues. that is all that matters

user19161

@MattЭллен I have a feeling he is getting into some fury now. :-)

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 Somehow I have a feeling that is you.

Somehow your feeling is wrong. Again.

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@matt that article actually made me laugh. But my son just woke up. Gotta run

9:40 PM

@MrShinyandNew安宇 cya!

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 The song is very nice.

user19161

Wow the song is making me really inspired now...

user19161

What did you put in it?

laxatives

user19161

I just answered two software related questions on ELU.

Vitaly

9:47 PM

Lenin was a mushroom

Lenin was a mushroom () was a televised hoax by musician Sergey Kuryokhin and reporter Sergey Sholokhov. It was first broadcast on 17 May 1991 on Leningrad Television. The hoax had the form of an interview. In the interview Kuryokhin was telling about his findings that Lenin used to consume a lot of psychedelic mushrooms and eventually turned into a mushroom himself. This absurd idea wasn't presented all at once; instead there was a resemblance of logical chain of reasonings, facts and quotations from various sources. An aura of plausibility was created using manipulation of facts, pseudo...

> As a result, approximately 11,250,000 audience members took the hoax seriously

user19161

@Vitaly I think the audience took mushrooms too.

I guess there wasn't mushroom for reason

user19161

I think mushrooms are delicious.

user19161

You know, I think sometimes the asker accepts one answer without upvoting any of the answers just to give himself 2 points.

user19161

It is quite a common phenomenon these days.

9:52 PM

Why should he upvote. An accept already hands out a whopping 15 points.

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 But why not give the accepted answer another 10?

Because not every accepted answer deserves that.

user19161

If he does not like the other answers that is fine. And why accept an answer if he does not like it?

user19161

@RegDwightѬſ道 Reg's truth of the day.

user19161

A mystic proclamation.

9:55 PM

There is at least one huge thread on MSO on the subject of accepting but not upvoting. If you are that interested, go search for it. I don't seem to be able to find it.

user19161

Well, I can understand it if accept means solves the problem and upvote means nice answer.

user19161

It's just that I think there should be a nice answer that solves the problem.

user19161

But so far I have more or less upvoted all answers to my own questions and also accepted an answer that I felt was the best whether it solved the problem or not.

@JasperLoy Thanks Jasper :)

user19161

I am glad the Taiwanese drama with 700 episodes is over. Phew!

10:08 PM

Something I was always curious about: I often hear the verb "own", especially in American programmes. I never liked it. (Why can't people just say "have"? "Own" puts so much emphasis on owning, it borders on impolite. This is clearly just my impression of course, probably the influence of my mother tongue). Is this a new trend? Was "own" so common in the past as well, say 50 years ago?

I own a car, I own a house, I own a piece of software ...

owning is different to having

user19161

@Szabolcs I am not American but I usually use have instead of own even if I really do own it. Having said that, own and have have slightly different meanings. I can borrow a pencil and then I have a pencil but I do not own it.

I understand that "have" is more general, but in context "I have a car" wouldn't be misunderstood

plus the mass media in the USA promotes a capitalist consumerist way of life

@Szabolcs but one can have a car and not own a car

user19161

When one dies, one loses everything, so nothing is really owned. This is my truth of the day...