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12:30 AM
lol.
ur so diffrnt
I've cracked the case on why Jasper can't get over himself. he's 2 chainz.
 
1:29 AM
Why can’t people ever be bothered to crack a dictionary?
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A: Be but sworn - grammar

tchristTransitive swear and Concessive Subjunctives I don’t know why you think swear is intransitive; it is obviously used transitively here since it is love that would be sworn. If she can swear love, then swear has to be transitive: it has an object. But had you checked a dictionary, you would hav...

Lawler will probably be on my case for calling these constructions concessive subjunctives as though they were Latin, but I think the fact that it is a concessive clause remains — be it inflected or not. :)
 
Let him.
 
I can hardly stop him.
 
There you go.
 
"It is quite a different thing for that Catholic zealot to support gay marriage than it is for Obama."
what does this mean?
 
What it says.
 
1:38 AM
What don't you understand?
 
so it says..."Obama's support for gay marriage is normal but for that catholic to do it, it is a completely different thing...?
 
Yes.
That is its implied meaning.
 
but is the sentence grammatically correct?
i found it weird...
 
@user4550 Yes, it is.
 
so , correct...?
 
1:42 AM
> It is quite hard for John to jump over the fence.
> It is quite a difficult thing, for John to jump over the fence.
 
than is from different
 
> It is quite a different thing, for John to jump over the fence, than [the same thing] is for Louise.
 
so John is supposed to be less athletic than Louise?
 
That clammatically correctness thing again.
 
the assumption of it...?
 
1:48 AM
@user4550 Well, or it could be the other way around: you need context (information about John and/or Louise) to be sure.
 
i see
thank you
 
@user4550 Consider this sentence:
> Haha, come on! Louise and John are hardly equally rich!
This utterance only works if you know at least one of them is particularly rich or poor: then you can infer that the other one must be poorer or richer, respectively.
 
i see.
thanks
i found this sentence...also...
"He was relentless on verbal observations about her body, and she wahad begun to pick up the habit of grinding her teeth in order to save her from rerorting an obscenity back at him...
what is the import of this?
 
2:03 AM
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Q: Does a question which shows no research, no effort deserve a downvote?

ivanhoescottDoes a question which shows no research, no effort deserve a downvote? If the answer is yes, I would like to know the reason behind it.

Funny: that’s just what the tooltip says for the downvote arrow.
 
does it mean that she wanted to keep herself from saying nasty things back at him by grinding her teeth?
 
2:17 AM
@user4550 Yes.
 
@tchrist why'd you delete that answer? Not unreasonable.
 
@Mitch Because he’s being an asshole help vampire. He doesn’t deserve my time.
All I got for my trouble of answering him was a childish ad-hom that was even wrong to begin with. FTN.
@MattЭллен Shouldn’t that be test-your-BrIQ? :)
They are also doing that kind of question begging that so annoys the ancients.
Shocked!
> The opinions and other information contained in OxfordWords blog posts and comments do not necessarily reflect the opinions or positions of Oxford University Press.
Oh, right.
I don’t like their test. They just accused me of being a limey. The cheek!
 
2:53 AM
I give up: what is an immoral grammatical act, anyway?
 
thanks Cerberus.
 
 
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5:22 AM
 
Hi.
@tchrist Impressive.
Hey, does anyone here play Bridge?
How do I open with this hand? I am the first to bid.
I should open, but I have no suit to bid.
I think I learned to open with 1C as a weak bid if you can't bid anything else.
But ACOL seems to think I must have 4 clubs if I open 1C.
 
,
 
,
 
"His brain wilted from hitherto unprecedented weariness"
does this mean his brain got tired coz he had done something tiring he had never done before?
 
Hmm not quite.
 
5:28 AM
Yes and no.
 
> "His brain became weak from a certain weariness that he had never experienced before."
 
tell me where im wrong
so, this "from" is "due to"?
 
You could say that.
 
thanks
 
Or perhaps "with". Hard to say.
But the meaning of the sentence as a whole is no doubt "his brain became tired in a way he had never experienced before".
 
5:31 AM
The cause it left out.
 
His religious opinions will be held with no more of positiveness or decision, than may consist with a deep sense of his liability to error and rejudice,
 
Does this mean...the degree to which his opinions are believed will be tempered by our understainding of his foibles?
 
Hmm I don't think so, but I'd need more context.
It probably means that he will not be very decisive and positive in his opinions, because he knows he is fallible.
OK I have read it, and it means what I said.
"Positive" in this sense means much the same as decisive.
 
so "held with..." is "will be held by him"?
 
5:42 AM
Well, just "held" means "held by him", in this case.
 
but i thought...held by us..
is it possible with this single sentence/
 
This text says that a good Christian will not hold opinions that are too decisive or positive.
There is no "by us"; "by him" is implied.
 
i see
thanks
 
Have fun with your text!
It is bed time for me.
I like your questions.
(...as long as you either give your own paraphrase or ask a very specific question. In this case, you gave your own paraphrase, which is a good way to explain your question.)
 
6:34 AM
my ratio of farts to lines of assembly code written for my project over the past hour has been well in the 20s
and I fancy myself an A student in this comp org class.
puts on headphones and farts to smooth R&B
 
7:33 AM
posted on October 20, 2014 by sgdi

laughhard: I live in a conservative/unfunny town, so this type of thing is almost unheard of

 
 
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9:35 AM
in Mathematics, 17 mins ago, by David H
Any folks here enjoy math history? The History of Math&Sci SE only needs three more people to commit in order to go to beta... http://area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/65204/history-of-science-and-mathemati‌​cs
 
 
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11:36 AM
@IceBoy I committed! I would be a more avid member if it were five or six years ago. Those stone tablets are fascinating!
 
Hello.
Clay tablets?
 
@Cerberus Oh, yes. Probably clay tablets. I haven't touched or been really close to any of them. :-)
@Cerberus I love seeing how those great ideas were made. Like, how could Euler come up with his well-known Euler's formula? It's so perfect!
 
12:11 PM
@DamkerngT. You should go to a museum!
 
@Cerberus I wonder if the museum near me will have such a thing. :-)
 
Let there be pronounced a curse upon any head who would dare to disagree with my reason!
is this grammatical?
Mitch, can I impose upon you for some help?
 
@Damkerng stone is harder to work but is more permanent. Hamiltonian quaterions were carved into stone, but exercises in the Pythagorean thm are better on clay.
@user4550 yes, that's grammatical.
What kind of class is this for? Are you composing fresh? Translating? If paraphrasing, what style are you starting with? Or are you just checking someone else's grammar?
 
12:27 PM
i wrote it coz I just remembered this phrase...pronounce an anathema upon...
i think ben jonson?
i dont remember
thank you
 
12:58 PM
@user4550 Yeah that sounds very unmodern, in a very old style. King James Version of the Bible style.
@tchrist I totally see that, but you put the work in already (wouldn't want to see it go to waste) and it's a good lesson for others especially newcomers. That is, it's not just for that one person.
 
I thought as much/ thank you
"If this much of toil and moil were body-wracking, I'd have long ago been dead!"
Is this correct?
and can i use it for fiction?
 
1:25 PM
"If this much toil were body-wracking, I'd have long ago been dead!" - That's as much fixing I can do. 'moil' is not a recognizable word, 'toil' is a mass noun like water so having an article is wrong. 'wracking' is weird sounding, more likely to be used as a verb 'wracked my body' but even then is too old-fashioned sounding. As to fiction, it would only be acceptable as quoted speech of someone like a 19th c religious orator.
 
@AndrewLeach - this is not spam? idk ahahahahahahah :) adhajhdadhadhjahdjash sorudaihsi oadfiapdodi i kafisvnadn If you can figure it out, please translate, 'cuz I couldn't. Thanks :-)
 
this much of toil is not grammatical?
I foudn this exmaple
"this much of water"
"body-wracking labor"
 
@medica It's not spam as such. Just nonsense. Spam is only spam if it tries to sell you something.
 
@terdon “Don’t settle for the lesser evil: the Campus Crusade for Cthulhu wants your vote.”
 
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Q: Do we have any general guidelines on flagging?

Andrew LeachThere are a number of Meta posts about flags, both here on Meta.ELU and on Meta.SE. Do we have any guidelines for flagging comment as offense? (mELU) Why can’t I flag a question as offensive? (mELU) What is considered hate speech? (mSE) Official guidelines for flagging answer as offensive/hate ...

> Spam: A link or advertisement unconnected with ELU and any question or answer in which it appears. Six spam flags on a post will ensure it’s deleted automatically.
> Not an answer: The “Not an answer” flag should be reserved for answers which make no attempt to answer the question, for example because they are “Me too!” or “Thanks!” or a supplementary question, or an “answer” which is unrelated to the question, including gibberish. (My emphasis)
 
1:56 PM
The reason for this separation is because spam carries a penalty and spammers' accounts are usually Destroyed With Extreme Prejudice, but "Not An Answer" goes into a user review queue and can be dealt with without moderator intervention.
 
We should believe his story with no less of a grain of salt than may consist with his reputation as a fibber.
What does this mean?
@AndrewLeach
is this like..."since he is infamous as a fibber, we should never let our guard down when we hear his story."?
 
2:24 PM
Hi
I'd like to know what the adjective is for someone who does a good decision which ends out to be bad
It's not unintentional because that's when you do something by accident
whereas here it's something which results in an accident
Thank you in advance
 
a man with myopic thinking
 
@TimTimmy how are these different?
 
@MattЭллен do you think that the sentence is ungrammatical?
We should believe his story with no less of a grain of salt than may consist with his reputation as a fibber.
 
consist doesn't work there, for me
 
consist with means to correspond with
a formal phrasing
with that knowledge, is it grammatical?
 
2:35 PM
I would not use consist like that.
but removing the question of semantics, yes it's grammatical
 
but this author does that so...is my understanding ok there?
so, a matter of preference but its grammatical and works as a legitimate sentence as it is?
 
thank you
 
@Mitch Clay is surely easier to work with. Thanks for the tip (about Hamiltonian quaternions)!
 
Also, you don't believe something with a grain of salt, you take it or accept it or various other things but believing is binary. Either you do or don't, you can't believe with a grain of salt.
@MattЭллен You're kidding right?
@user4550 No it doesn't. You're thinking of be consistent with, not consist with.
 
2:49 PM
@terdon well, if you use consist to mean correspond then it does. as I said, I don't.
if someone insists on something even when I've said otherwise, then whatever
 
3:08 PM
@IceBoy thank you. I'm terribly sorry about your Raiders.
 
Norwegian moneys.
 
@RegDwigнt someone's scrambled half the pictures
@tchrist I guess that's something they could build upon
 
3:32 PM
@MattЭллен Fair enough. Don't feed the vampire and all that.
 
3:42 PM
@matt Boo! Today my friend treated me to Japanese dinner.
 
sounds delicious!
 
I also told him about the matter I told you, and he gave me his opinions.
Tmr I will meet another friend and ask him for his opinions too.
I hope to come to a decision this month.
 
It is good to talk things over
 
I will let you know what I decide, and why.
In other news, I have more or less confirmed that Maria is Maria, and I hope to make it work out, even though the chances are not too high.
 
that sounds promising
 
3:50 PM
I am very excited. Many good things seem to be happening this month.
Perhaps it is because Mariah Carey is performing here this Fri. There can be miracles when you believe, lol.
 
perhaps
 
4:16 PM
@terdon I took the salt. Now what? I mean a grain is really not going to do much.
 
@Mitch Add pepper, a table spoon of oil and let it simmer for a couple of hours. Then, deliver to my place at 12 hungry boys street, Marseille, France.
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4:30 PM
I have changed my avatar, everyone refresh your browser!
 
@JasperLoy Nice!
 
user116848
@Mitch That is a funny response lol
 
user116848
Also terdon's
 
user116848
:)
 
@terdon Mmmm... a dash of vinegar? Oh, sorry, nothing left to deliver. But it was good.
 
4:40 PM
@Mitch Wrong ping, lol.
 
1 min ago, by Mitch
53 secs ago, by Mitch
34 secs ago, by Mitch
@JasperLoy Fixed!
 
user116848
haha
 
Turtles all the way down!
And with @terdon's recipe, we'll all eat well!
 
user116848
Turtles? :)
 
@Mitch I stole it online. I have no idea how to make it myself, currently.
 
4:43 PM
"Turtles all the way down" is a jocular expression of the infinite regress problem in cosmology posed by the "unmoved mover" paradox. The metaphor in the anecdote represents a popular notion of the myth that Earth is actually flat and is supported on the back of a World Turtle, which itself is propped up by a chain of larger and larger turtles. Questioning what the final turtle might be standing on, the anecdote humorously concludes that it is "turtles all the way down". The phrase has been commonly known since at least the early 20th century. A comparable metaphor describing the circular cause...
 
@terdon I cannot remember. Are you a man or woman?
 
user116848
@Mitch Oh, it's a expression!
 
@JasperLoy Isn't there a 'meme' maker? You give it a picture and some text and it puts the text on the picture?
 
@Mitch I don't know about that. I guess I could learn to use GIMP to make it in a few minutes.
 
@JasperLoy Right. That's what I would use. it's not -too- hard.
 
4:45 PM
@JasperLoy I sometimes have trouble deciding myself.
 
I have never used Microsoft Word, Excel or Powerpoint in high school. I only used them as a clerk in the army, lol.
@terdon Oh dear. I will assume you are a man then, since you do not disclose your sex.
 
@JasperLoy Heh, indeed, that I am.
 
 
LOL
 
One more...
 
user116848
4:52 PM
Good saying lol!
 
@Arrowfar I don't know what it means!
@JasperLoy There are reasons on both sides for not saying.
 
user116848
@Mitch That's why it looks funny :D
 
@Mitch Yes, personally I would have assumed that someone who doesn't want to say is a woman, not a man. At least one of the people who hang out here is a pretty outspoken sexist and I could understand a woman not wanting to attract his attention.
 
Take the dinosaur for example. We know form Jurassic Park (i.e. scientific fact) that dinosaurs can change sex at will (with a lot of concentration).
 
@terdon LOL.
 
user116848
4:55 PM
@Mitch No way! I didn't know.
 
@Arrowfar Yep. Fact.
 
user116848
@terdon So, who is this outspoken sexist? :)
 
If by 'fact' you understand to mean 'stuff made up to look like reality but may or may not actually be anything at all'.
 
@Mitch I think you meant consextration
 
:D
 
4:57 PM
@Arrowfar He hasn't been here in a while, I'd rather not say.
 
user116848
@terdon Ah, I see. I haven't noticed.
 
user116848
:-)
 
@terdon Actually, that's the time to say it (if ever) when they won't notice.
Which is to say, you probably shouldn't say.
 
@Mitch Which is why I did not say :)
 
user116848
So, I think mostly guys visit chat here.
 
user116848
5:01 PM
Maybe I am wrong. I don't know.
 
@Arrowfar No, I can name at least 3 women who are regulars. One of them is here now.
Hmm, I must have scared her.
 
@terdon Right, that's the only reason I questioned. So if there is no question, then you know the question and therefore you know the answer to the question (and also the meta question). But if there is a question, then you know the answer is the opposite of what you expect, so you know the answer to the question. Unless I've mixed up the question.
 
@Mitch Are you related to Sir Humphrey Appleby?
And if you don't know who that is, you're in for a treat. Great comedy, brilliant dialogue.
 
@terdon "On the whole, he had a slightly warmer relationship with his dog than his family." I don't have a dog, so no I cannot be Humphrey Appleby.
I like dogs though. Does that count?
 
@Mitch That doesn't rule you out, it just means you have to have such a bad relationship with your family that the one you have with a non-existent dog is actually better.
@Mitch Dunno but anyone who hates small children and dogs can't be all bad.
 
5:18 PM
Heya @corn!
 
@JasperLoy Howdy!
Would you rather face 12 hungry boys or 12 angry men?
 
user116848
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Howdy ninja! :)
 
@Arrowfar ------------------------------------->
Hi!
 
user116848
How are ya?
 
user116848
5:24 PM
Good. Thanks!
 
user116848
Then you should eat!
 
I'm working on it.
 
user116848
Oh, I should work on my food options too.
 
5:58 PM
[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword detected, Phone number detected: +91-9950211818 all problem solution baba in lucknow on english.stackexchange.com
 
Wow, 101% guaranteed.
 
6:13 PM
@Mitch You win.
I’ve removed my inappropriate comment.
Which wasn’t your point, but the only route to resurrection.
 
6:47 PM
@cornbreadninja麵包忍者 Solved within 12 hours AND 24 hours. Amazing!
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 That is amazing.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It says solved within 50 minutes.
 
@Cerberus Where does it say that?
 
room topic changed to English Language & Usage: A room about English, sometimes in English (no tags)
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Oops, I mislooked: it was within 3 minutes.
 
6:58 PM
@KitFox Hi!
 
@Cerberus You must not be reading what I'm reading.
> solve your problem with in 12 hours and 24hours
 
This is what I see.
 
I have no idea what that has to do with what I wrote. Sorry.
 
A joke is something spoken, written, or done with humorous intention. Jokes may have many different forms, e.g., a single word or a gesture (considered in a particular context), a question-answer, or a whole short story. The word "joke" has a number of synonyms, including wisecrack, gag, prank, quip, jape and jest. To achieve their end, jokes may employ irony, sarcasm, word play and other devices. Jokes may have a punch line, i.e., an ending to make it humorous. A practical joke or prank differs from a spoken joke in that the major component of the humour is physical rather than verbal (for example...
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 There was only one problem, and the community solved it 58 minutes ago.
Within 3 minutes of the problem's appearance.
 
ah.
I wonder if we could call that number and ask them what to do about spammers
 
7:12 PM
posted on October 20, 2014 by sgdi

There once were delusional twins Who thought that their hands were both fins They swam in the sea So ungraciously Both faces were covered in grins

 
There seems to be a bug in the tooltip hover with @cornbreadninja麵包忍者's messages. Can anyone confirm?
 
@terdon Oh dear.
 
@terdon Works fine for me on Firefox.
 
no porblum for me, either
 
7:27 PM
Yes, I only got it on that particular message and it works if I move the mouse a millimeter or so. I am guessing it has something to do with both cornbread and shiny having such long names.
 
@terdon What IS that tooltip?
Are you hovering over a reply and it pops up user info on the replied-to username?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 It's the one you get when you hover over the little arrow that appears when someone replies to another message.
 
@terdon I get a tiny box that says "This is a reply to an earlier message"
Do you have a userscript installed?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 What? Really?
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 I only get that if the message being replied too old.
 
@terdon I only have that because I am using a userscript.
 
7:32 PM
I do have this installed but I don't think that's relevant.
 
Or so I think.
 
@Cerberus Which one?
The chat reply helper?
 
@terdon Yes.
That is the one.
Turn it off and you'll see.
 
I just did and you're quite right. OK, not an SE bug then, I'll let Oliver know
 
I do remember editing it, because I needed to change something about it. But for me its tooltips work fine.
 
@terdon But I don't get that error.
Or how do I reproduce it?
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Yes, I just checked, thanks.
 
I tried hovering over that reply, in that same line about the 24 hours.
 
@Cerberus I wouldn't bother, but if you want to, try hovering over the arrow in this message: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/18240010#18240010
@Cerberus Ah, then it might be something specific to my setup. For me, whether it works depends on which part of the arrow I'm hovering.
 
@terdon I did that, but it is displayed correctly.
But, as I said, I once edited the script.
I think I changed the position of the tooltip.
Note, however, that most of the Chinese characters are not displayed in my tooltip.
 
7:37 PM
your tooltip is racist!
 
Yes, because all yellow people write Chinese characters.
 
Speaking of racism. One of my city's mayoral candidates thinks it's racist to call someone racist.
 
@terdon This is what I see.
 
@Cerberus That's what I see if I move my mouse. I'm talking with @OliverSalzburg in the SU chat room about it.
 
I think I moved the tooltip up because I didn't want it to block the line.
 
7:39 PM
@Cerberus Yes, it is certainly further from the post than I have it.
 
@terdon Can you link me to that room?
 

 Root Access

For all you Super Users out there. You have backups, right?
But he's also here.
 
Thanks.
 
He's everywhere.
 
He is God.
 
7:42 PM
Or omnipresent man.
 
@Mr.ShinyandNew安宇 Well, the whole thing about calling people racist should perhaps go down a notch or two.
 
@Cerberus Um. That's not the conclusion you're supposed to draw.
Let me give you the context. Rob Ford, current mayor, was recorded calling Jewish people "kikes". His brother Dough Ford is running for mayor, and was asked to condemn Rob's racist remarks. Instead, Dough went on to list a bunch of jewish people he knows, and then claimed that his wife is Jewish (she's not). The next day, he accused the guy who raised the issue of racism, for calling the Fords racist.
 
Haha.
He is obviously an idiot...but it shows how inflated the word has become.
Does he stand a chance?
And why can't you elect a normal person?
We don't have an elected mayor in Amsterdam.
 
Inexplicably, he's in SECOND PLACE and just typing that fills me with shame.
I am strategically planning to vote for the entitled rich white dude who ISN'T dough ford, instead of the chinese immigrant woman who is in 3rd, because I cannot stand the idea of "ford more years"
It's simply amazing how much of a liar Dough Ford is.
Now that I've typoed his name so many times I can't untypo it.
So not only did he claim that his wife is Jewish (immigration records and church records show she's Christian), but he also claimed that Toronto (the city) has been neglecting Scarborough (the suburb, now part of the city) for 50 years. The only problem with that statement is that Toronto the city has only existed for 16 years and EVERYONE KNOWS THAT.
Before that, Scarborough was its own city and had its own mayor and council.
The guy can't even tell a simple fact or opinion (i.e. that Scarborough is neglected) without somehow turning it into a lie.
Those are just two of the most howlingly bad lies he's made. He also lies about every single achievement he or his brother had in the last 4 years.
He lies about the budget and the police and basically everything.
He lies about campaign spending.
He lies about conflicts of interest.
He lies about the law.
He lies about money.
It's amazing.
 
7:59 PM
I lie in bed.
It's amazing.
 
But some lies are just so blatant.
 
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