English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

12:15 AM

@Cerberus We can pick up baba (as its name is customarily shortened in casual conversation) at any grocery store here in Boulder.

But I came here because Colorado cracks me up. From Skeptics:

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Q: Did Colorado replace any 420 mile markers with a 419.99 mile marker to deter theft?

This claim has been circulating on Facebook: Although marijuana is now legal in Colorado, I don't see any particular attraction to mile markers from this state, as US mile markers are pretty standard--at least along interstate highways (where this photo appears to have been taken). In any cas...

My concern is that they appear to have put the new sign in the same place as the old sign, instead of 52.8' further down the road. — Michael Sep 15 at 22:57

@Michael: From the article linked in Oddthinking's answer: While a difference of .01 mile doesn’t sound like much, the 419.99 marker stands more than 50 feet away from where the old sign was posted. “We are nothing if not precise,” said Ford. — T.J. Crowder 2 days ago

The CDOT page on their senior management team confirms an Amy Ford is Director of the Office of Communcations. — Emilio Pisanty yesterday

I would have been rather displeased if they had put it in the wrong place.

Cerberus

@tchrist Same here. But supermarket food is often not good.

tchrist

@Cerberus Exactly. It entirely depends on which Stupid Market you go to. If you go to a “crunchy” “100% natural and organic” store that cares about such things, you can get stuff that tastes good, but if you just go to the corner gas-station, you’re just askin’ for trouble.

We have a local “Mediterranean foods” chain in Boulder run by people from the Levant called “Falafel King” whose baba is packaged up and put in our local grocery stores. It’s pretty good.

It was ninety degrees here today. I must go water.

Funny-and-true story: the Wendy’s Hamburgers joint next door to Falafel King downtown on our main pedestrian mall (Pearl Street) long ago closed down. Only in Boulder.

Normally a burger joint would crush a falafel/kebab joint, but not here.

Cerberus

Hmm kebab places are everywhere here.

It is fatty, unhealthy food...

tchrist

12:31 AM

Besides nice vegetarian food, they have those big spits of what (the former?) denizens of the UK call “döner kebab”. I of course have never had any of that.

Cerberus

Falafel is not as common, but still very common.

Yes, it's called döner or kebap or shoarma here.

tchrist

The donor is always a lamb and something else. FK has one spit donated by a lamb+turkey and another by a lamb+cow.

I doubt that the poulterer version is any less unhealthy, but I wouldn’t know.

Out east they call them gyros joints.

But here they focus on the falafel aspect. Odd.

Cerberus

They analysed samples from different shoarma places here. Turns out many contain other things than lamb (it should be lamb). Some even contained pork, which is anathema to Muslims, even though it is traditionally Turkish (or Moroccan as well?) food.

Sure, we have gyros too. But it's far less common. Of course it is materially the same thing.

tchrist

We normally spell it shawarma here, I think. But the kabob word gets all kinds of variations.

They put pigs in it!?

I’m surprised the establishment was not targeted by activists.

What’s next, horses or dogs?

I don’t actually know whether the FK owners are Muslim. They have a typical Lebanese accent.

But they certainly never have any pork on their menu.

Cerberus

The name of the place was not published. But no doubt health inspectors were told.

tchrist

12:38 AM

> Boulder Colorado Restaurant Menu

Grilled Meat Plates
Served with fresh mixed greens, 2 mediterranean sides & pita
Gyros
Grilled Beef & Lamb with Tzatziki Sauce
Shawarma
Grilled Turkey & Lamb with Tzatziki Sauce
Grilled Chicken Breast
Marinated & Grilled Chicken with Tzatziki Sauce
Add On! - 3 Falafel Balls - Feta Cheese
Vegetarian Plates
Served with fresh mixed greens & pita
Falafel
6 Falafel balls plus 2 Mediterranean sides
4x6
6 Falafel balls plus 4 Mediterranean sides
Falafel & Hummus
6 Falafel balls plus a large portion of Hummus

From here.

Cerberus

If they can prove it, the place will be fined.

tchrist

I would think that being fined could be the least of their worries!

So apparently they are calling gyros the lamb+cow version and shawarma the turkey+lamb version. I’m not sure that that is universal.

They have very good tabouli, as opposed to what you get at a supermarket, which is usually nasty.

The supermarket kind never has enough flavor, and is usually too dried out.

Their chocolate baklava is divine.

I usually get the 4×6, which is a plate of lettuce-salad with onions and tomatoes, six falafel balls, and a scoop each of four “Mediterranean sides”. The “House Eggplant” is good. I don’t remember what “Greek Delight” is.

It comes with optional peperoncini and kalamata olives and hot sauce. They’re optional because some people find them too strongly flavored. Which is odd, because as olives go, kalamatas are on the mild side of the scale. Or maybe people are afraid of pits. Dunno.

Darn it, now I’m hungry.

@RegDwigнt Just in time for a new donor!

RegDwigнt

@Robusto it doesn't appear like I've ever given it a think before, and now that I do I am rather concerned that there is no equivalent in German. Or Russian, for that matter. The closest is probably something like oh. Which is to say, not close at all.

And dennoch is a completely different thing. I'm curious how it even came close to your radar.

tchrist

Well

RegDwigнt

@tchrist nonono, I was meaning to go to bed four hours ago.

Gut got too busy watching a blind guy's channel on YouTube.

Fascinating stuff.

tchrist

12:50 AM

At least in the mouth of a Brazilian, starting with pois (ES pues) has that same effect.

@RegDwigнt uh

RegDwigнt

►

Just a random pointer. Not to single out that particular video.

The guy's really cool and funny.

tchrist

Describing them to the color-blind is also curious.

I have one friend and one colleague (two people) who cannot distinguish blue sky from pink cotton-candy.

RegDwigнt

And he answers a lot of cool questions I have never even realized existed.

tchrist

Homer’s brazen skies.

RegDwigнt

Basically if you just gave me the questions, I'd already be all happy. But he adds answers on top of that.

Anyway, I must be off off off.

Night all.

tchrist

12:53 AM

night

RegDwigнt

And watch his channel some time. Really good stuff.

tchrist

I suspect that listening is good enough, no? :)

Ah but he thinks that ice and cold are blue. Interesting.

Cerberus

@RegDwigнt How about Dutch welnu?

Both it and why are light in meaning.

Welnu is somewhat like well and now, but not entirely.

Dutch also has nou, which is somewhat like now, but not entirely.

tchrist

Is that cognate to Well now? Like “Well now, what do we have here?” going along with “Why, what do we have here?” does.

Cerberus

Yes.

tchrist

12:59 AM

That’s why I replied Well to Reg.

Cerberus

But the meaning is somewhat different.

When replying to one's own question, welnu is very appropriate.

Just like well and why.

tchrist

I could see that.

Cerberus

The same applies to nou, related to now.

tchrist

Sure.

Cerberus

But now works somewhat differently in English.

Now can work like granted.

tchrist

1:01 AM

These are um discourse markers?

Cerberus

Yes.

tchrist

Must go herd kitties.

Mitch

@tchrist They're golf course markers, to prevent you from going into the sand traps or water hazards. Very useful.

tchrist

2:01 AM

Please enjoy this relevant venn diagram. — Tyler James Young 6 hours ago

Heh.

I feel bad that more people have not upvoted ML’s answer. She deserves it:

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A: The etymology of "redhead" vs. "ginger haired"

Etymonline, otherwise known as Etymology Online Dictionary, has this to say on the origins of red, and redhead. red (adj.1) Old English read "red," from Proto-Germanic rauthaz (cognates: Old Norse rauðr, Danish rød, Old Saxon rod, Old Frisian rad, Middle Dutch root, Dutch rood, Ger...

I suppose I could bounty her answer, but that would look rather odd in this case.

Robusto

2:35 AM

@RegDwigнt In the sense of but or yet or though, I guess. Das mag wohl sein, aber dennoch bedauerlich ist. Something like that. Now that I put it into words it doesn't have the why quality. Maybe I just had a brain fart. What I get for checking out ELU on the smart phone, perhaps.

tchrist

2:46 AM

Rob, do you know some fancy Greek term of rhetoric that this person is looking for?

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Q: Does anyone know the word for a question asked with the intent to injure or insult?

Does anyone know the word for a question asked with the intent to injure or insult? I know there is term for it, but I can't find it anywhere. It's driving me crazy. Example: Are you blind, or just stupid? Oh, and it's not rhetorical. There is a more specific term. Edit: It's not sarcas...

single-word-requests

Cerberus

3:03 AM

A sardonic rhetorical question?

tchrist

Yeah.

I disagree that the answers to the other question are not the answers to this one.

Cerberus

@tchrist I have an English question.

tchrist

But whatever.

Cerberus

> The goal of this research is to get a better insight into the position of children.

tchrist

Um.

Cerberus

3:09 AM

What are the major weak points that you see in this sentence?

tchrist

That doesn’t make sense.

Cerberus

It is about the social position of chilren in the Iron Age.

tchrist

Too many words, and yet they still do not tell you what it is about.

Cerberus

It is the first sentence of the second paragraph of chapter 2 of her MA thesis.

tchrist

This research investigates Iron Age children’s social position.

Look Ma, no prepositions!

Cerberus

3:11 AM

Right, but that has been mentioned before. But I agree that the sentence is not very informative.

Does the use of "this research" strike you as odd?

tchrist

If it is about a thesis, yes it does.

This paper or some such.

Cerberus

Exactly.

tchrist

This paper researches.

Cerberus

She is almost using it as a countable noun.

tchrist

A paper is not a research.

Cerberus

3:12 AM

I suggested research project to another friend in a similar position.

tchrist

That would be better.

Cerberus

OK.

This is the context:

tchrist

I’ve proofed NNS’s theses for them before. Fortunately, their English was better than mine and so no fault could be found apart from general academic wordiness.

Cerberus

Heh.

You were lucky.

tchrist

"Chapter 2 Research methods"

Cerberus

3:14 AM

Yeah.

> Chapter 1: Theoretical framework

It's funny.

The rule is the same as in Dutch.

tchrist

This chapter describes the research methods and subjects, and why dividing subjects into groups by age and gender was needed. Something like that.

Not good yet.

Cerberus

Ah, that is better than your first version!

And certainly better than her version.

tchrist

It’s just loose writing.

Also, the will is pretentious.

Stick to present tense.

Cerberus

Or "are described with some precision".

But it is only a draft of a draft.

So proofreading is not yet needed.

Besides, I am only there to give pointers, not to proofread.

tchrist

Proofread != Copyedit

This one needs copyediting.

Cerberus

3:18 AM

What's the difference?

tchrist

Recrafting and redrafting.

Cerberus

More comprehensive changes?

tchrist

Proofreading looks for errors of grammar and orthography.

Copyediting rewrites and rephrases into better language. It improves the wording.

Proofreading does not.

Cerberus

Right.

Neither task is mine.

tchrist

Good.

It should be paid work.

At least, copyediting should be.

Cerberus

3:20 AM

It is.

tchrist

It is a form of editing.

Cerberus

But my task is to advise her on structure.

tchrist

It is a skilled task that takes time and effort.

Proofreading is largely mechanical.

Still non-trivial, but much less work.

Cerberus

More difficult.

I see two pages of points that are important but lack any apparent ordering.

tchrist

This is for an MA?

Cerberus

3:21 AM

Yes.

It's not my field.

I'm not supposed to concern myself with the content anyway.

But how?

tchrist

She should have an abstact and an outline.

That’s all you need to judge structure.

Cerberus

I'm sure she will have those eventually.

tchrist

I don’t know how I could write a long paper without having one to write from.

Particularly the outline.

Cerberus

Currently I have an introduction (11 pp) and two chapters (20 pp each).

tchrist

Goodness.

Cerberus

3:23 AM

In theory, I have one hour.

tchrist

That’s a lot for an MA.

In that it is not the whole thing but only a small piece.

Cerberus

We normally write 60 pages or so, I think.

tchrist

That sounds about right.

Cerberus

I think she has more than 2 chapters, though.

tchrist

Uh oh.

Well, she is wordy.

Cerberus

3:24 AM

Or she has much to say.

tchrist

No, it is the way she phrases things.

Not tightly.

Cerberus

I don't know, at least they are clear, meaning wise.

tchrist

BTW, one gains insight, not gets it.

Cerberus

Perhaps what I will do with her in the hour that we have together is have her outline her arguments once again, in full.

@tchrist Gets was the other weak point I noticed in that sentence.

tchrist

Get gets used for lots of things. Often there are better, more finely honed verbs. In this case, to gain insight is a set phrase, and deviations would be noticed.

Cerberus

3:27 AM

Yes.

I'm also iffy about a better insight.

tchrist

But now I am thinking about the actual topic. I wonder how one develops testable models about this subject.

Or at least, documentable ones.

Cerberus

I wish I had time to read 50 pages and understand them, too.

tchrist

Notice I never used a determiner in front of insight.

Cerberus

Yeah.

But even the word better.

tchrist

I also omitted better. :)

Cerberus

3:29 AM

Hah.

How can one compare insight?

Greater? More?

tchrist

Greater.

Cerberus

Right.

tchrist

But it’s a bit um pretentious to assume one has any to start with.

Cerberus

One expands upon the insights of others.

tchrist

The goal seems to be to figure if and how children in the Iron Age differed in social roles compared with children’s roleaduring other ages, presumably historic ones so the ancients, the medievals, and the moderns.

Cerberus

3:32 AM

Oh, she has like 10 comparisons.

tchrist

Even medieval children were quite different from ours.

I should like to know what age groups she means by children.

Pre-menarche only, presumably.

Bah

Cerberus

I wonder what she means by "energy expenditure"./

tchrist

Yeah.

More importantly, difference with respect to what other?

Difference between genders, ages, epochs?

Cerberus

Yeah, so many things.

That is the problem with chapter 2: too many factors.

tchrist

And is there any reason to think that the children of the Stone Age, Bronze Age, and Iron Age should be similar to each other in any of these factors, or distinct?

Does she think to check into how such matters worked in the pre-contact autochthons of recent history?

I am sure there must be research on that.

Anonymous

3:43 AM

I'm confused about this character: ・

tchrist

Well, I don’t do Kana. Ask @Rob.

Anonymous

テスト・・・　　←　When ・ follows kana, it appears to be a wider character.
Test・・・　　　　 ←　When ・ follows Latin letters, it appears to be a thinner character.

tchrist

But if you want the simple mid dot used in Catalan orthography, then I can explain it.

Alas no.

Anonymous

That's what confuses me.

tchrist

Oh, that I can explain.

There is a notion of characters whose widths are ambiguous.

Anonymous

3:46 AM

Ooh! I didn't know that.

tchrist

When used in the context of East-Asian wide characters, they are to be represented as wide ones, but when used with narrow characters, as narrow.

Anonymous

unicode.org/reports/tr11/#Ambiguous

tchrist

However, U+30FB ‹・› \N{KATAKANA MIDDLE DOT} is not one of those, at least in Unicode v6; they may have changed that. In v6, it has the character property East Asian Width=Wide

Anonymous

Ah!

Anonymous

I expected it to be wide.

tchrist

3:48 AM

Most of the Script=Common punctuation and symbols have East Asian Width=Ambiguous.

So currency signs and such.

Also, Latin letters that do not have a special wide version are EA=A, while those that do are EA=N for the regular ones and EA=W for those way at the high end of the BMP.

Oh, actually it is more nuanced than that. Interesting.

Cerberus

@tchrist Quite possibly. But it is too much to read it all.

tchrist

@snailboat These are your choices:

> East_Asian_Width=Ambiguous
East_Asian_Width=Fullwidth
East_Asian_Width=Halfwidth
East_Asian_Width=Neutral
East_Asian_Width=Narrow
East_Asian_Width=Wide

But U+30FB is accorded EA=W status. I wonder if that is more like EA=A than I knew. I do not know the difference between EA=W and EA=F.

Well, tr11 should explain all this. I have not read it in some time.

@snailboat What you say renders differently for you did not do so for me.

> The Unicode Character Database [UCD] assigns to each Unicode character as its default width property one of six values: Ambiguous, Fullwidth, Halfwidth, Narrow, Wide, or Neutral (= Not East Asian). For any given operation, these six default property values resolve into only two property values, narrow and wide, depending on context.

I see.

Anonymous

tchrist

Velly intelesting.

Anonymous

@tchrist That's more in line with how I expected it to render! :-)

tchrist

3:58 AM

What browser–opsys platform?

Ice Boy

I just put a ruler on the screen and they both measure 1 cm

Anonymous

Firefox and SeaMonkey on Linux set to Japanese render it like in my screen shot. When I open it in Chrome (also set to Japanese), both rows render the dots with thinner spacing

tchrist

@IceBoy That seems above and beyond the call of duty. My eyes can see the difference between her rendering and mine.

Hm. I’m running Safari under Darwin.

Anonymous

There is how it looks in Chrome for me.

tchrist

4:01 AM

At $job they like to use Chrome, but it wedges a lot and you have to fall back on FF or Safari to actually do anything.

Here, let me check something.

Ice Boy

Ooh, I see it now. Sorry you're right :-)

tchrist

Ok, they are the same in Opera as in Safari for me.

Anonymous

Snail talk! :-)

tchrist

And there, there is no difference. That is a monospace font of course.

:)

Ice Boy

what's the opposite of snail talk?

tchrist

4:05 AM

Rage.

Achilles’ talk.

Ice Boy

icic :)

tchrist

Zeno’s paradox of the (disguised) snail and Achilles.

> NESTOR
Go, bear Patroclus’ body to Achilles;
And bid the snail-paced Ajax arm for shame.
There is a thousand Hectors in the field:
Now here he fights on Galathe his horse,
And there lacks work; anon he’s there afoot,
And there they fly or die, like scaled sculls
Before the belching whale; then is he yonder,
And there the strawy Greeks, ripe for his edge,
Fall down before him, like the mower’s swath:
Here, there, and every where, he leaves and takes,
Dexterity so obeying appetite
That what he will he does, and does so much

I thought Ajax was supposed to make web apps appear less snail-like.

That would be hard to recite: strawy would be tough to convey clearly.

It risks sounds like Stroy.

Which given the context, is just the wrong thing.

Cerberus

Well, big men are often slow.

> With more than half of Scotland’s local authorities having declared including the major cities of Glasgow and Aberdeen, an estimated 55% of voters were expected to reject Alex Salmond’s prospectus for independence.

But the Yes campaign scored a handful of notable successes, succeeding in the largest city of Glasgow by 53% to 47%, winning 54% in West Dunbartonshire and a convincing 57% win in Dundee.

It's interesting that they should have won Glasgow.

@snailboat By the way, if it was you who deleted my line, thank you.

tchrist

@Cerberus Oh noez you said Dundee!

Cerberus

4:20 AM

What about it?

tchrist

@Cerberus Well, there were two Aeantes.

@Cerberus Chicken on a Raft!

But yeah, this was the greater not the lesser one.

Cerberus

@tchrist I don't think anyone thinks of the other one...

@tchrist What? I think that was a web page?

tchrist

> Ajax (Ancient Greek: Αἴας) was a Greek mythological hero, son of Oileus, the king of Locris. He was called the "lesser" or "Locrian" Ajax,[1] to distinguish him from Ajax the Great, son of Telamon. He was the leader of the Locrian contingent during the Trojan War. He is a significant figure in Homer's Iliad and is also mentioned in the Odyssey[2] and Virgil's Aeneid. In Etruscan legend, he was known as Aivas Vilates.

@Cerberus Oh, aye!

They’ve changed the recording.

Cerberus

Significant, perhaps. But less so.

tchrist

Certainly.

> When the grammatical dual form of Ajax is used in the Iliad, it was once believed that it indicated the lesser Ajax fighting side-by-side with Telamonian Ajax, but now it is generally thought that that usage refers to the Greater Ajax and his brother Teucer.

Interesting.

I liked the older recording better.

This is the older one:

►

I once tracked down the artists.

Cerberus

4:32 AM

My God, she has at least 5 chapters...

Excluding the conclusion.

This bodes not well.

Bodes?

The Young Tradition were a British folk group of the 1960s, formed by Peter Bellamy, Royston Wood and Heather Wood. They recorded three albums of mainly traditional British folk music, sung in arrangements for their three unaccompanied voices. == Biography == The Young Tradition was formed on 18 April 1965 by Peter Bellamy (8 September 1944 – 19 September 1991), Royston Wood (born 1935 died 8 April 1990) and Heather Wood (born Arielle Heather Wood, 31 March 1945, Attercliffe, Sheffield, Yorkshire) (who was unrelated to Royston Wood). Most of their repertoire was traditional British folk music,...

@Cerberus But the count isn’t settled yet, is it?

> EDINBURRA (Reuters) - Scottish voters have spurned independence by voting to stay in the United Kingdom, partial results showed with more than 60 percent of the votes declared.

Reuters calculations based on the partial results showed Scottish support for staying in the United Kingdom on 54 percent versus 46 percent for declaring independence.

Cerberus

5:03 AM

@tchrist It is not.

Ice Boy

when will we know for sure?

we they

:-)

tchrist

NOW!

Fife just announced.

It is over.

Ice Boy

:-O

tchrist

Had BBC going live in the background.

tchrist

5:21 AM

Wikipedia:Spellin an grammar

== Spellin == Here at Wikipaedia it's recommendit that fowk uises "tradeetional" pan-dialect spellins. Awtho thir isna sae strict as in Inglis we ettle tae come up wi writin that's easy tae read an can be soondit bi readers in thair ain dialect. Ae thing tae mynd is that maist fowk that kens better disna uise the apologetic apostrophe onymair. Mair oot ower evyte slang in an encyclopaedia. O coorse maist awbody haesna been teached siclike at the schuil but wi practice it shoudna be ower deeficult. A wheen resoorces is aboot that expounds on whit "tradeetional" spellins is an hou tae applee thaim...

> The RRSSC haes bin pit thegither by fowk that ken the work they're daein for the maist pairt. It's nae perfick an there's a twa-three pynts that ae body or anither disna like. Houaniver gin Scots prose is ti gang onywey in Scots eddication, prose writers maun rally roond ae staundart. Maist o the fowk writin for the Scots Wikipaedia haes chuisen tae rally roond this ane till a better comes alang.

> That said, there's nae doot that fowk winna write the RRSSC wey whan they contreibute. It's nae easy whan ye daena ken it. Nane o us wis taucht Scots spellin, sae we canna be expeckit ti get it richt. We shuid tak text spelt onywey athoot compleenin or rushin ti fix it richt awa. Houaniver awbody shuid mynd that we aim ti correct spellins ti the RRSSC standard suiner or later.

Wikipedia:Mercat Cross

Walcome tae the Mercat Cross! This is the airt tae tauk aboot the technical wirkins o the Wikipedia. en: Requests for the bot flag should be made on this page. This wiki uses the standard bot policy, and allows global bots and automatic approval of certain types of bots. Other bots should apply below. == Name o the project == The'r graet confusion ower this, wi me oniewey. A'v seen aa three variants – Wikipedia, Wikipedie an Wikipaedia – aa ower the shop. A think we need tae settle on wan name. A'm agin Wikipaedia mainly acause the RRSSC uises ae tae represent the soond in spaek or windae that...

> But A dinna think oniebodie's pronooncin it /wɪkɪpedia/ or /wɪkɪpɪdia/ – A daursay that aabodie's sayin /wɪkɪpidia/, same as me (tho A cuid be wrang o coorse).

> Kennin o yer interest in Scots and yer sterlin efforts tae promote it, A thocht that ye micht want ti ken aboot a Scots encyclopedia project that haes newly stertit. Gin ye wad like ti help us mak the Scots Wikipedia growe aither in yer ain name or anonymously, we'd be gratefu for onie time an effort that ye micht be able tae spare aither ti screive stuff yersel or ti tell ither Scots spaekers aboot it.

I have a headache.

Inglis leid

Inglis, English or Inglish (English) is a Wast Germanic leid that arose in the Anglo-Saxon kinricks o England an spread intae what wis tae become sooth-east Scotland unner the influence o the Anglian medieval kinrick o Northumbrie. Follaein the economic, political, military, scientific, cultural, an colonial influence o Great Breetain an the Unitit Kinrick frae the 18t century, via the Breetish Empire, an o the Unitit States since the mid-20t century, it haes been widely dispersed aroond the warld, become the leadin leid o internaitional discourse, an haes acquired uise as lingua franca in mony...

> The name "Inglis" comes frae the pairt o Germany an Denmark cried "Angeln". The spellin Inglis is a leeterar archaism frae aulder Scots that enthusiasts is gey fond o. It wis soondit [ɪŋ'lɪs] (cf. Scottis), wi time the is wis cuttit tae s an the modren ootcome wis [ɪŋ'(ə)lz] that can be seen in the faimly name wi the mair mensefu modren spellin Ingles. Maist fowk the nou says ['ɪŋlɪʃ], English, tho some fowk scrieves Inglish for fear that fowk micht soond the foregaun wrang.

I’m a-thinking we shan’t be a-seeing Scots Leid an Eese Stack Exchange site proposal on Area 51 anytime in the immediate future.

Anonymous

7:06 AM

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Q: Latin language proposal restarted

Proposal: Latin Language The Latin language proposal has been restarted here. If there are any questions from the old proposal that we want to save, we have a period of time (3 months as far as I understand) to do this before the old proposal gets deleted.

culture

Matt Эллен

7:38 AM

84.5% turnout is impressive

Ice Boy

Wow, that is!

Ice Boy

8:25 AM

Are you happy now @Jez?

Matt Эллен

lol

Ice Boy

:D

Jez

@IceBoy damn straight I'm happy :-D

here's my thoughts on things (if anyone cares hehe): rationalskepticism.org/news-politics/…

and as for all the French people who wanted a yes vote "just to piss off the English", yeah, I'd like to taste their bitter, miserable tears right now

Will Hunting

It is a beautiful Fri afternoon, I should go out for a walk tonight.

My thoughts have been changing rapidly these days.

Ice Boy

8:43 AM

well, you just went through a very emotional experience watching that movie

Will Hunting

Finally, my books are starting to ship from amazon, lol.

In future, I will remove the credit card details only when all items have arrived, to avoid delays in shipping again.

Ice Boy

@WillHunting have they given you an appointment date for the therapist yet?

Will Hunting

@IceBoy Still no. I sent them an email after a week to remind them. I will wait another week before sending another email.

Ice Boy

Monday would be better, no?

Will Hunting

Doesn't really matter.

Ice Boy

8:49 AM

@WillHunting If you don't show them some urgency, they may forget about you.

Will Hunting

My best friend will be returning from Oxford in a few days. Just got his PhD in physics.

@IceBoy Yup, which is why I sent them a reminder already.

Ice Boy

@WillHunting Remember how I said that taking medication combined with a therapist will give you the best results?

Jez

9:29 AM

Cerberus

Congrats.

Jez

hahahahaha VICTOIRE

some of us have been waiting years for the grin to be wiped off his face

that fills me with joy. :-)

ok, now I'll stop. :-P

Jez

9:48 AM

@MattЭллен hey dude. i created a room but for some reason it's part of the StackExchange chatrooms instead of the ELU ones... if you have the mod power to move (or request it be moved) to the ELU rooms, please do so. this is the room: chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/17283/…

Matt Эллен

@Jez I can't move it, I'm afraid. the SO rooms are a different set of chat rooms to the SE rooms

Matt Эллен

10:23 AM

@Jez apparently I can only change the host site for rooms that have EL&U as the host site.

Robusto

Plaintiff, actor: both are names in a drama or comedy by which a real person is identified parenthetically. — Robusto 10 secs ago

More loony ramblings from Kris.

Matt Эллен

Please explain what makes a sentence suitable. More context is required. — Matt Эллен ♦ 6 mins ago

in the context of history. — H Lallianmawia 6 mins ago

do people suppose we are mind readers?

Jez

@MattЭллен and there isn't a StackExchange mods room or facility you can use to request it be moved?

not that it matters too much; i just wanted to get those pictures on imgur lest they be taken down by the various news reporters

they are priceless :-D

but it would be more appropriate for them to be in the ELU family of chatrooms I think

Matt Эллен

@Jez I can ask. I do not guarantee results :D

Jez

ok please ask

good day everyone. i guess i should start working...

Robusto

10:39 AM

Congratulations, Great Britain!

X still marks the spot.

Matt Эллен

indeed. we do not lose the St. Andrew's cross

Ice Boy

and the thistle lives on...

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